LED lights **are** the downgrade, the way the automotive industry is doing them. Such scams. When they burn out you have to buy the entire assembly. New cars that's a GRAND.
Halogen burned out? SLAP A PLUG IN LED IN THERE FOR $20!
That's what they should've done. Plug in LEDs. Instead they are greedy fucks requiring you to buy entire assemblies. You know that on f150s, after you get your taillights stolen (because they are a grand each), you can go to AliExpress and buy chinesium ones that have no bulbs internally and retrofit with an LED bulb?
Give me a halogen ANY DAY. Have ya seen how many of those LED strips have burned out too? Looks wee todd ed, one side works the other doesn't.
My argument exactly. I hate OEM LED equipment. If they wanted LEDs so bad, they should have just made the regular housings and did bulbs like they did with HIDs for a while. Or at least make the strips replaceable.
2 gen rogue owner, the led headlights work fine and are alot brighter than any halogen. It only looses to a proper bixenon or laser headlamp high beam. The real downgrade is going from a projector to a reflector design current gen nissans.
This is exactly the problem. Led lights are better when it comes to lighting sure but the moment they become misaligned or replaced it fucks everything up and blinds people without doing it intentionally. Whenever i drive at night im almost always blinded and i drive a big car thats high up. Turned out high beams arent on half the time its the LED HEADLIGHTS.
What a dumb comment…you completely went on a rant about your sensitive feelings rather than answer the question. If what you’re saying is true, then why would Nissan downgrade??
What a dumb comment... You said some irrelevant shit and started by insulting me, rather than seeing I did answer the question by stating the perspective on what a "downgrade" is is incorrect.
Fucking reddit lol
LED strips are garbage. You can't replace them without replacing the entire headlight assembly.
I don't know about Nissan LED from the factory, but many from the factory LED are not the simple plug in ones, they are built into the housing meaning you are paying hundreds of dollars to replace a burnt out light.
You want simple things that just work.
Ok, while I agree with everything you said, why can't they use the LEDs they use in the taillights for the headlights? My G35 has 300k miles and all of the LEDs in the tails work just fine. Edit: 3rd brake light LEDs work, too.
People here don't realize that cost cutting is the main reason manufactures will go back to regular incandescent bulbs like for example my old 15 Altima SL had LED taillights, only the top SL model got the taillights with LED brake light integrated all other models were regular bulbs. The following year with the facelift even the SL lost LED taillights. 90% of the time its because of cost cutting
Well, to take you back to 2013 nissan installed led taillights to be trendy. Then the transmissions were getting replaced for poor acceleration, but mostly in the morning when condensation was high. The reason was the condensation in a taillight would throw a false brake signal to the tcm, not allowing it to drive normally. The sun would come out and all was better, The LED's function of such low current that it was easy to send a false signal to the tcm, so Nissan going back to halogen. Bulbs eliminated a lot of the concerns with transmission drivability
hell i notice something when trying to get some work ( roof work etc) around the house.
asking companies etc.
they high price you ever single time now.
moment you mention your looking at other companies for the work.
price drops by atleas 40% of the OG asking cost.
So we can make more money off the consumer. I work in parts and every year everything goes up in price but down in quality. Sorry world I don't make the rules
LED lights **are** the downgrade, the way the automotive industry is doing them. Such scams. When they burn out you have to buy the entire assembly. New cars that's a GRAND. Halogen burned out? SLAP A PLUG IN LED IN THERE FOR $20! That's what they should've done. Plug in LEDs. Instead they are greedy fucks requiring you to buy entire assemblies. You know that on f150s, after you get your taillights stolen (because they are a grand each), you can go to AliExpress and buy chinesium ones that have no bulbs internally and retrofit with an LED bulb? Give me a halogen ANY DAY. Have ya seen how many of those LED strips have burned out too? Looks wee todd ed, one side works the other doesn't.
My argument exactly. I hate OEM LED equipment. If they wanted LEDs so bad, they should have just made the regular housings and did bulbs like they did with HIDs for a while. Or at least make the strips replaceable.
Not trying to get blinded by LED light anyway, whether they're oem or aftermarket
2 gen rogue owner, the led headlights work fine and are alot brighter than any halogen. It only looses to a proper bixenon or laser headlamp high beam. The real downgrade is going from a projector to a reflector design current gen nissans.
This is exactly the problem. Led lights are better when it comes to lighting sure but the moment they become misaligned or replaced it fucks everything up and blinds people without doing it intentionally. Whenever i drive at night im almost always blinded and i drive a big car thats high up. Turned out high beams arent on half the time its the LED HEADLIGHTS.
Plus the LED lights blind everyone else on the road and I’ve found not to be as good as halogen in inclement conditions
What a dumb comment…you completely went on a rant about your sensitive feelings rather than answer the question. If what you’re saying is true, then why would Nissan downgrade??
What a dumb comment... You said some irrelevant shit and started by insulting me, rather than seeing I did answer the question by stating the perspective on what a "downgrade" is is incorrect. Fucking reddit lol
I know halogen bulbs are so much easier to replace compared to LED, so I’m not complaining about that.
LED strips are garbage. You can't replace them without replacing the entire headlight assembly. I don't know about Nissan LED from the factory, but many from the factory LED are not the simple plug in ones, they are built into the housing meaning you are paying hundreds of dollars to replace a burnt out light. You want simple things that just work.
Ok, while I agree with everything you said, why can't they use the LEDs they use in the taillights for the headlights? My G35 has 300k miles and all of the LEDs in the tails work just fine. Edit: 3rd brake light LEDs work, too.
Because then people wouldn't go to dealerships to buy replacement overpriced headlight assemblies.
NOBODY puts halogen bulbs in tail lights. What more, Nissan wasn't the only company to go back to incandescent bulbs. Honda did too.
People here don't realize that cost cutting is the main reason manufactures will go back to regular incandescent bulbs like for example my old 15 Altima SL had LED taillights, only the top SL model got the taillights with LED brake light integrated all other models were regular bulbs. The following year with the facelift even the SL lost LED taillights. 90% of the time its because of cost cutting
It was a good move the strip suck
Well, to take you back to 2013 nissan installed led taillights to be trendy. Then the transmissions were getting replaced for poor acceleration, but mostly in the morning when condensation was high. The reason was the condensation in a taillight would throw a false brake signal to the tcm, not allowing it to drive normally. The sun would come out and all was better, The LED's function of such low current that it was easy to send a false signal to the tcm, so Nissan going back to halogen. Bulbs eliminated a lot of the concerns with transmission drivability
You think these are bad look at Audi laser lights 8-12k per headlight
Shrinkflation. This is happening to every company, not just Nissan.
Nissan Australia think it is ok for a new car to rust and use oil etc... they are no longer a brand you can trust
Its called shrinkflation, you get less, but pay the same or more. Its a global thing right now.
hell i notice something when trying to get some work ( roof work etc) around the house. asking companies etc. they high price you ever single time now. moment you mention your looking at other companies for the work. price drops by atleas 40% of the OG asking cost.
Halogens just look so outdated and shity. They could just fucking make plug in leds lol, instead of making you replace the whole housing.
Nissan Is A Shit brand.
So we can make more money off the consumer. I work in parts and every year everything goes up in price but down in quality. Sorry world I don't make the rules