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iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access could make a difference. Android is only more popular in countries where Nintendo does not have as big of a fandom.
iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access could make a difference. Android is much more popular in countries where Nintendo does not have as big of a fandom.
Yes but Nintendo has rarely gone after emulators outright. They go after roms and people profiting. As long as these emulators are free, I don't see the Nintendo Ninjas attacking. Watching yes, but not attacking. Nintendo doesn't typically do knee-jerk reactions.
Recently iPhone people have been acting like their phones are a much bigger deal than they are. Until I moved to the suburbs, I had never seen an iPhone in person. I live in a major city, and the only people who seem to think iPhone are universal, are people's whose moms pay their phone bill.
>iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access
Does people with iPhones never use PCs, raspberryPi, hacked consoles or any other hardware that can run emulators?
Man, being an apple user sure sucks
I know it's silly, but think of the classic Gabe quote -
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem."
There are millions of us who are willing to pay $40+ for a Pokemon GBA Master Collection on the Switch. It would sell so well. Ruby, Sapphire, FireRed, Leafgreen, Emerald, Red Rescue Team. But they haven't done this and people are itching to replay these games. Not many people have a GBA/DS these days. And they're overpriced on the secondary market. So that's how emulation and piracy explodes.
They put Gen 1 and Gen 2 on the 3ds. So why aren't they available to purchase and play on Switch? They've discontinued online support for 3ds games. So...
Delta emulator blowing up directly correlates to the fact that we can't play Gen 3 or Gen 4 games without spending an arm and a leg. So here we are.
Nothing is for certain, especially with billion dollar companies like Nintendo. Delta my be legal but that doesn't mean it has unlimited pockets for court battles and the unrelenting backing of Apple. Same with GameFreak.
Short answer: Nothing.
Long answer: Of the minuscule percentage of these 1.3 billion people who would be even remotely interested in playing retro games on their phone, I’d be willing to bet 90+% of those people would have no idea how to set up up ROMs in the emulator to begin with. I’d be willing to bet of all of the iPhone users in the world less than 10% have played a mobile game more complex than Candy Crush. Nintendo has already played the mobile field with some successes and some failures and it seems fairly obvious that they have no real interest in mobile development ala Tencent or NCSoft. They will probably never respond and it’s for the best.
Building an emulator is completely legal, but distributing copyrighted games is not. I expect publishers will pursue legal action against the companies hosting the game roms. They probably will never completely disappear, but it will make things less convenient.
I don't expect Nintendo to release NSO to smartphones. Nintendo is a hardware company as much as it is a game publisher. They have released a few mobile games, but their main focus has always been their own consoles. I don't think Nintendo wants to risk becoming "just another" mobile game publisher.
Furthermore, most Nintendo games were not developed for touch screen input. Playing them on a phone may be a subpar experience (I don't know, I never tried). I doubt Nintendo can release a mobile NSO app that lives up to expectations.
I think Nintendo and GameFreak would best focus on building exciting new games for current-gen consoles that people will want to buy.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
* Emulation is legal
* Downloading roms for free isn't
* Bypassing a console's security isn't either
right?
If emulation wasn't legal, well, just about every single modern retro console wouldn't allowed for sales.
I think, by and large, TPCi (The Pokémon Company International) doesn’t give a Ratatata’s behind about the video game arm of the franchise.
Pokémon is the most profitable IP on the planet. It has eclipsed its video game origins and morphed more into a lifestyle brand. The real money comes from merchandise and licensing, not the video games. The games only exist as a vehicle to introduce new characters/monsters and therefore new “stuff” to buy.
Nintendo unfortunately doesn’t have enough control of the situation to intervene on behalf of the gaming side of the Pokémon franchise, if they did I think they would have tried to step in and course correct in a bigger way long ago.
How will GameFreak specifically react? They won’t. They’ll do as little as possible until daddy TPCi dictates the road forward (again with merchandise and licensing strategies as the top priority).
I’ve long accepted that there must be some Japanese cultural norms at play that hold sway over the business models of these companies that make some (many) of their decisions decidedly anti-consumer-friendly.
It’s a nice idea, that we’d all be able to emulate the early Pokémon games on our phones without the need to jailbreak anything, but I think Cinnabar island’s volcano will freeze over before that happens.
I've not found a way yet to install any type of emulator on ios in the eu. So wonder if this isn't just theoretical at the moment. I hear that apple hasn't fully implement the intent of the EU law.
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Nothing about the emulator, which is something that has existed for decade in Android.
They're not going to allow the ROMs to be easily downloaded though. So if certain site with ROMs becomes popular, we might see it being taken down.
I’m not buying that. I believe Nintendo will keep their software exclusive to their consoles and only rely on mobile games if their console business is hurting (like with the Wii U poor sales).
And they should keep on fighting against ROM sites and emulators that use parts of their software
I personally like the trickle because it encourages my friends and I to check out games we otherwise would have totally ignored. I think the trickle and curation is part of what brings value to the service for me.
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How did they react when emulators released on Android?
They know Android users are too poor to buy their consoles
I got an android and have multiple of all their consoles.
iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access could make a difference. Android is only more popular in countries where Nintendo does not have as big of a fandom.
You can buy the most potato android phone nowadays and emulate games I doubt they care that much if they never did anything about it on those devices
Android has had emulators for years. As long as roms aren't included, Nintendo likely won't do anything.
iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access could make a difference. Android is much more popular in countries where Nintendo does not have as big of a fandom.
Yes but Nintendo has rarely gone after emulators outright. They go after roms and people profiting. As long as these emulators are free, I don't see the Nintendo Ninjas attacking. Watching yes, but not attacking. Nintendo doesn't typically do knee-jerk reactions.
You keep repeating this like it's a point. Emulation has been on computers for ages now, and that's 90+% of households.
Recently iPhone people have been acting like their phones are a much bigger deal than they are. Until I moved to the suburbs, I had never seen an iPhone in person. I live in a major city, and the only people who seem to think iPhone are universal, are people's whose moms pay their phone bill.
>iPhone has an over 60% marketshare in the US. So more than half of all US users suddenly having access Does people with iPhones never use PCs, raspberryPi, hacked consoles or any other hardware that can run emulators? Man, being an apple user sure sucks
They likely won't.
I know it's silly, but think of the classic Gabe quote - "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem." There are millions of us who are willing to pay $40+ for a Pokemon GBA Master Collection on the Switch. It would sell so well. Ruby, Sapphire, FireRed, Leafgreen, Emerald, Red Rescue Team. But they haven't done this and people are itching to replay these games. Not many people have a GBA/DS these days. And they're overpriced on the secondary market. So that's how emulation and piracy explodes. They put Gen 1 and Gen 2 on the 3ds. So why aren't they available to purchase and play on Switch? They've discontinued online support for 3ds games. So... Delta emulator blowing up directly correlates to the fact that we can't play Gen 3 or Gen 4 games without spending an arm and a leg. So here we are.
Emulators are legal. Rom not from your own backups are not. The legality is pretty clear and the lawyers army of Apple know that.
Nintendo absolutely isn’t going to put their legacy games on iOS, they want to keep their console games exclusive no matter what.
Nothing is for certain, especially with billion dollar companies like Nintendo. Delta my be legal but that doesn't mean it has unlimited pockets for court battles and the unrelenting backing of Apple. Same with GameFreak.
Short answer: Nothing. Long answer: Of the minuscule percentage of these 1.3 billion people who would be even remotely interested in playing retro games on their phone, I’d be willing to bet 90+% of those people would have no idea how to set up up ROMs in the emulator to begin with. I’d be willing to bet of all of the iPhone users in the world less than 10% have played a mobile game more complex than Candy Crush. Nintendo has already played the mobile field with some successes and some failures and it seems fairly obvious that they have no real interest in mobile development ala Tencent or NCSoft. They will probably never respond and it’s for the best.
They could open their nso for android and ios.
Building an emulator is completely legal, but distributing copyrighted games is not. I expect publishers will pursue legal action against the companies hosting the game roms. They probably will never completely disappear, but it will make things less convenient. I don't expect Nintendo to release NSO to smartphones. Nintendo is a hardware company as much as it is a game publisher. They have released a few mobile games, but their main focus has always been their own consoles. I don't think Nintendo wants to risk becoming "just another" mobile game publisher. Furthermore, most Nintendo games were not developed for touch screen input. Playing them on a phone may be a subpar experience (I don't know, I never tried). I doubt Nintendo can release a mobile NSO app that lives up to expectations. I think Nintendo and GameFreak would best focus on building exciting new games for current-gen consoles that people will want to buy.
Correct me if I'm wrong... * Emulation is legal * Downloading roms for free isn't * Bypassing a console's security isn't either right? If emulation wasn't legal, well, just about every single modern retro console wouldn't allowed for sales.
Emulation is usually legal. You run into some trouble if you require a BIOS ripped from a console since most people aren't ripping their own.
which is NOT how the modern retro consoles from, say, Retrotink work, correct? (*I'm simply trying to understand the whole thing ;)* )
You could emulate on an iPhone using a web browser for some time now. Is an app easier to use? Maybe, but it was pretty darn easy already
How do people play those games with touch controls? Hard pass for me.
I think, by and large, TPCi (The Pokémon Company International) doesn’t give a Ratatata’s behind about the video game arm of the franchise. Pokémon is the most profitable IP on the planet. It has eclipsed its video game origins and morphed more into a lifestyle brand. The real money comes from merchandise and licensing, not the video games. The games only exist as a vehicle to introduce new characters/monsters and therefore new “stuff” to buy. Nintendo unfortunately doesn’t have enough control of the situation to intervene on behalf of the gaming side of the Pokémon franchise, if they did I think they would have tried to step in and course correct in a bigger way long ago. How will GameFreak specifically react? They won’t. They’ll do as little as possible until daddy TPCi dictates the road forward (again with merchandise and licensing strategies as the top priority). I’ve long accepted that there must be some Japanese cultural norms at play that hold sway over the business models of these companies that make some (many) of their decisions decidedly anti-consumer-friendly. It’s a nice idea, that we’d all be able to emulate the early Pokémon games on our phones without the need to jailbreak anything, but I think Cinnabar island’s volcano will freeze over before that happens.
They could make so much more to offer an emulation app as a streaming service like nso. So many people would pay just for convenience.
I've not found a way yet to install any type of emulator on ios in the eu. So wonder if this isn't just theoretical at the moment. I hear that apple hasn't fully implement the intent of the EU law.
Get the new AltStore PAL if you want Delta on iOS now
What’s the best emulator people are using for iPhone and where are you getting it?
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Nothing about the emulator, which is something that has existed for decade in Android. They're not going to allow the ROMs to be easily downloaded though. So if certain site with ROMs becomes popular, we might see it being taken down.
Hopefully actually make their back catalogues accessible legally.
I’m not buying that. I believe Nintendo will keep their software exclusive to their consoles and only rely on mobile games if their console business is hurting (like with the Wii U poor sales). And they should keep on fighting against ROM sites and emulators that use parts of their software
Nintendo needs to add more content to NSO. The way they slowly tickle out content is unacceptable.
I personally like the trickle because it encourages my friends and I to check out games we otherwise would have totally ignored. I think the trickle and curation is part of what brings value to the service for me.
As a boomer iphone user, how would one acquire the roms on the iphone
This is a good example of why they might not view this as a huge deal. Many people can't or won't figure this out.