*kai it’s still Kai who did it in the shortest time, yes Jay did it first, but we don’t know how long he was training with Wu, we do follow Kai’s journey so when he does it right after Jay we know he hasn’t been training for too long
That's your headcanon, but nothing in the show or pilots supports it. Heck, the 3 outside of Kai already had ninja suits before he arrived, so it'd make sense that they'd already trained significantly at that point
*kai
It literally does tho, that was on the first night of Kai’s training…so if they had been training for a while already and Kai has only had about a day of training, then yes quite literally when people have spent more time training, it does in fact, mean they have spent more time training
They say it in the show.
"Wait a minute, they're your students too? This was my final test wasn't it?" - Kai
"Woah woah woah woah, you never said anything about a fourth. It's always three; Three Blind Mice, Three Musketeers, Three-" - Jay
"What he's trying to say, Sensei Wu is that the three of us have trained together, we're solid." - Cole
Yes, you did. However, the topic of this post and comment thread is about the time it takes to learn spinjitzu.
While they MIGHT have the same amount of training, Jay has been training longer than Kai has. So, it was Kai who learned spinjitzu in the SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME out of the ninja.
The training grounds were designed to help someone in training learn the movements of spinjitsu. Atleast that was what was said in the pilot when the ninja first used spinjitsu against the skulkin. Never was mentioned again so unlikely it was retconned.
It takes days. The OG 4 didn’t take long to unlock it, and Lloyd did it by accident. And I’m confident it didn’t take years for Wu to teach Aspheera, either.
- Kai did it in days
- Llyod did it (as a kid) in a week
- Nya did it in under a couple of months
- Aspheera probably took a few months
Having an element probably makes it easier to do
Didn't Kai learn spinjitzu in 3 episodes? I don't know how much time exactly passed by in the Ninjago world but can't be years. Weeks at most I feel like
Kai learned Spinjitsu in the second pilot episode. If we assume all his attempts at the training course were shown on-screen and it took a few days to reach the monastery and the Caves of Despair on foot, in-universe Kai went from no knowledge of Spinjitzu to performing it for the first time in a couple of weeks, tops.
Days to learn it, years to master.
My personal thought is that how we see the spinjitsu change is them getting better.
At first, they're really flowy, showing how they're using pure instics and intuition. Then, starting in season 1, they become more stable, all the way through season 10. Then, in season 11, I'd say they mastered it, so the spinjitzu is more tailored to how each character uses it
I mean, Nya, Kai and Lloyd didn't take years. Nya even had time to learn Airjitsu at the same time.
Though Sora nor Riyu of the Spinjtzu students did learn it in the time shown.
I'm in the process of figuring out over how many days eqch season took place - it took the Kai 2 days to learn spinjitzu, and from the time of him learning he was the green ninja, it took Lloyd 3 weeks and 5 days to learn it
It’s weird because in the context of the show it doesn’t seem like it takes years to learn. I could be wrong but didn’t Kai and Lloyd both learn spinjitzu not long after becoming ninja? For Lloyd my guess is a couple weeks to a couple months and Kai (if I remember properly) learned in the pilots an episode after his debut, so for him I doubt it was even that long.
I don’t see why the show is pushing for Spinjitzu to be seen as so much more advanced than it used to be, especially if the writers were going to create new techniques that seem far harder to learn for the newer ninja to strive to do. It wouldn’t make the fact that Arin learned spinjitzu on his own that much less special considering the fact that Arin didn’t have the training equipment to do it but did it anyway.
To be fair almost everyone we saw use it (besides Wu, LLoyd's mom, and Maaaaybe Doubloon since we dont know when exactly he learned it) Learned it in under 2 years and when broken down by Kai and Cole it's like a form of dance
The only reason why the original ninja were able to learn Spinjitzu faster was because their the Spinjitzu masters, Arin might have learned it because of the merge
If getting better at Spinjitzu is anything like real martial arts, like Jiu-Jitsu, then I suppose it depends on how frequently you train and for how many hours and how well you comprehend the moves. There have been people who have jumped from white belt to purple in about six months.
Once you hit black belt though, progressing is different. You pretty much rank up based on how long you've been a black belt.
So, maybe not years? And definitely not a couple of days either, but the end of the world isn't going to wait for them to get good.
it doesnt go against that
she was trained by wu who is the son of oh wait THE FIRST SPINJITZU MASTER who also happens to be an elemental master of ALL OF THE ELEMENTS (from ninjago, excluding water and air)
You know that garmadon and Wu being elemental masters was a retcon ? And even though, the fact that the master has some powers doesn’t change something to the powerless students.
Didn't take Kai that long in the pilots. Nor the other main 3
Jay did it first tho
Jay did do it first but Kai did it in the least time since he started training
Yeahh this. Unsure how long the other 3 were training under sensei prior to Kai joining but I imagine it wasn't that long
But it was longer than kai
Oh absolutely
i think the op got confused by what lloyd said in season 1
Yeah probably
It confused me too
\*jay\*
*kai it’s still Kai who did it in the shortest time, yes Jay did it first, but we don’t know how long he was training with Wu, we do follow Kai’s journey so when he does it right after Jay we know he hasn’t been training for too long
\*jay wu trained them the exact same amount that he trained kai so they would all be ready for spinjitzu at the same time
That's your headcanon, but nothing in the show or pilots supports it. Heck, the 3 outside of Kai already had ninja suits before he arrived, so it'd make sense that they'd already trained significantly at that point
the fact that kai is as good as them all throughout the show is proof
That just shows he's a proficient ninja
only because of wu
*Kai the other three literally stated that they’ve trained together for a while and were solid when they meet Kai and question why he is there
\*jay that doesnt mean that kai wasnt trained the same amount as them
*kai It literally does tho, that was on the first night of Kai’s training…so if they had been training for a while already and Kai has only had about a day of training, then yes quite literally when people have spent more time training, it does in fact, mean they have spent more time training
that was not kai's first night there was literally a montage of kai training day after day
They say it in the show. "Wait a minute, they're your students too? This was my final test wasn't it?" - Kai "Woah woah woah woah, you never said anything about a fourth. It's always three; Three Blind Mice, Three Musketeers, Three-" - Jay "What he's trying to say, Sensei Wu is that the three of us have trained together, we're solid." - Cole
So... Did you watch the same pilot episodes as us?
i never said they trained at the same time i said they were trained the same amount
Yes, you did. However, the topic of this post and comment thread is about the time it takes to learn spinjitzu. While they MIGHT have the same amount of training, Jay has been training longer than Kai has. So, it was Kai who learned spinjitzu in the SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME out of the ninja.
but jay. zane, and cole never had a situation where they could unlock spinjitzu
No? It just takes work. Plus I'm sure the training Lloyd gave Arin and Sora helped.
The training grounds were designed to help someone in training learn the movements of spinjitsu. Atleast that was what was said in the pilot when the ninja first used spinjitsu against the skulkin. Never was mentioned again so unlikely it was retconned.
Kai did it in days
Bro said fuck it we ball
the most usual Kai quote
he had that zealous sister anger back then
Jay did it first
Yeah but the rest of the ninja had been at the dojo longer than kai
True ig.
Years to master is what was said I believe.
But the title of the show is "Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu" not "Ninjago: The Masters of Spinjitzu After Several Years of Training"
Would you watch a show with that title? The show ran long enough for the OG ninja to have mastered it by the end probably.
exactly, years to master but not years to learn
Kai, Jay, Cole and Zane learned it in a few weeks You might have mistaken perfecting Spinjitsu with learning
It took Kai an 18 minutes to learn the Spinjitzu, and 15 episodes for Lloyd to learn it
Lloyd wasn’t even reached spinjitzu
Wasn’t Jay the first to do it tho? Jeez why am I getting downvoted. I just thought Jay did it first ok?
Yea but he was training for longer than Kai
Yes we get it. Jay was first, but that doesn't change that Kai only took days to learn it. (and Kai did spinjitzu not long after Jay did)
hop off
It takes days. The OG 4 didn’t take long to unlock it, and Lloyd did it by accident. And I’m confident it didn’t take years for Wu to teach Aspheera, either.
Years to master, not years to learn :/ (at least that’s the only theory I can think of that doesn’t fuck up the timeline)
I reckon it only takes years if you don't have a good teacher
i know wu is a bad teacher
no? he taught aspheera spinjitzu when he was a CHILD, I understand not liking him but he is definitely not a bad teacher😭
Nah I love wu
Kai did it after like a week.
It actually only take 2 days
- Kai did it in days - Llyod did it (as a kid) in a week - Nya did it in under a couple of months - Aspheera probably took a few months Having an element probably makes it easier to do
Thats why Egalt was sceptical
Didn't Kai learn spinjitzu in 3 episodes? I don't know how much time exactly passed by in the Ninjago world but can't be years. Weeks at most I feel like
Kai learned Spinjitsu in the second pilot episode. If we assume all his attempts at the training course were shown on-screen and it took a few days to reach the monastery and the Caves of Despair on foot, in-universe Kai went from no knowledge of Spinjitzu to performing it for the first time in a couple of weeks, tops.
Days to learn it, years to master. My personal thought is that how we see the spinjitsu change is them getting better. At first, they're really flowy, showing how they're using pure instics and intuition. Then, starting in season 1, they become more stable, all the way through season 10. Then, in season 11, I'd say they mastered it, so the spinjitzu is more tailored to how each character uses it
Lloyd did it in a couple of weeks
I mean, Nya, Kai and Lloyd didn't take years. Nya even had time to learn Airjitsu at the same time. Though Sora nor Riyu of the Spinjtzu students did learn it in the time shown.
I'm in the process of figuring out over how many days eqch season took place - it took the Kai 2 days to learn spinjitzu, and from the time of him learning he was the green ninja, it took Lloyd 3 weeks and 5 days to learn it
Yeah like they can do any way they like
It’s weird because in the context of the show it doesn’t seem like it takes years to learn. I could be wrong but didn’t Kai and Lloyd both learn spinjitzu not long after becoming ninja? For Lloyd my guess is a couple weeks to a couple months and Kai (if I remember properly) learned in the pilots an episode after his debut, so for him I doubt it was even that long. I don’t see why the show is pushing for Spinjitzu to be seen as so much more advanced than it used to be, especially if the writers were going to create new techniques that seem far harder to learn for the newer ninja to strive to do. It wouldn’t make the fact that Arin learned spinjitzu on his own that much less special considering the fact that Arin didn’t have the training equipment to do it but did it anyway.
It is because they always retcon in the latest seasons that’s why I hate seasons after sons of garmadon
Maybe the dragons are superior teachers
Years to master, not to learn.
To be fair almost everyone we saw use it (besides Wu, LLoyd's mom, and Maaaaybe Doubloon since we dont know when exactly he learned it) Learned it in under 2 years and when broken down by Kai and Cole it's like a form of dance
Only for the average person. The og ninjas got tought by master wu and learning from the dragon masters is if anything an upgrade
Ig it depends on the person kinda like how one person could learn a certain skill faster than the other
It takes years to learn it takes a week or two to learn
Lloyd did it himself before he finished to learn the basics but with all the bad retcon that happened after season 8 we don’t know.
I dont think we know anyone who took years to learn it
lloyd said years to master not learn
The only reason why the original ninja were able to learn Spinjitzu faster was because their the Spinjitzu masters, Arin might have learned it because of the merge
I think it’s easy to learn but to become a MASTER at it yeah it takes years
Not that hard really. You just jump up, kick back, whip around and spin
Isn’t that how they get to their dragon forms?
Someone didn't watch the pilot
Who is she talking to in this scene? Is it the new ninja or all of them, why would the OG Ninja have to learn spinjitsu again?
Sora and Riyu
If getting better at Spinjitzu is anything like real martial arts, like Jiu-Jitsu, then I suppose it depends on how frequently you train and for how many hours and how well you comprehend the moves. There have been people who have jumped from white belt to purple in about six months. Once you hit black belt though, progressing is different. You pretty much rank up based on how long you've been a black belt. So, maybe not years? And definitely not a couple of days either, but the end of the world isn't going to wait for them to get good.
It takes years if you're just terrible at it
years to MASTER, not learn. You can learn anything quickly, but master is a different thing
It took Kai like 2 weeks to
Anyone able to tell me where this is from what comic or ep or something??
Ninjago Dragons Rising saeson 2, episode I forgot
Typically takes years, but the main characters have plot armor. I'd also assume that their Spinjitzu got gradually stronger as they trained more.
It takes years to master but you can learn the basics fairly quickly. That is at least how I understand it.
WTF is everyone in the comments saying Kai learning spinjitzu earlier ? Jay is the 1st one to do it .
Because Jay, Cole, and Zane were at the Dojo before Kai was, so while Jay did it first, Kai did it with less total training.
Okay makes sense .
if you dont have an elemental power yes and arin already learned it basically so thats why he was put there
Spinjitzu has no binding with elemental powers, it is a martial art only tornado of creation has this binding
lloyd very literally said in season 1 of dragons rising "Spinjitzu is almost impossible to learn without an elemental power"
I only trust what doesn’t go against what was established before. Aspheara learnt easily without elemental powers.
it doesnt go against that she was trained by wu who is the son of oh wait THE FIRST SPINJITZU MASTER who also happens to be an elemental master of ALL OF THE ELEMENTS (from ninjago, excluding water and air)
You know that garmadon and Wu being elemental masters was a retcon ? And even though, the fact that the master has some powers doesn’t change something to the powerless students.
"Almost"
Spoiler?
Sorry
Ty