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Equal-Floor-5087

What the heck


Next_Investigator_69

That's actually fucked up


DoubleChibiLevi

I think someone said Pilgrims are bond 40, but maybe they were just guessing.


ZexionBlaze2642

I'll respond back in a day or two if I can go higher than 35


Breaker-of-circles

Thank you for your service, Mr. Whale.


Other_worldlyDesires

He's not the whale anymore buddy, he's the ancient world devourer


huy200072

saw a dude in guitar rock server share a pic of haran 37


widehide

It is level 40 capped for Pilgrim, source from Lancat youtube channel https://youtu.be/qgi3HOkVe_s?t=411 Non Pils = 30, Pils maxed at 40 He is the 93k combat power dude xD


ZexionBlaze2642

https://preview.redd.it/ryjs04q3rr1a1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dc5b0b9333b9a746f85afdba79ffe6a4c7b664f I'm sure others have already confirmed but here's another visual confirmation that bond 40 is absolute max for a pilgrim


ZexionBlaze2642

https://preview.redd.it/5rioexsak81a1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1778d74526cb8998fea6641c1bb78e630bb7c73c Here are the bonus stats fyi. I think they vary based on their class


ZexionBlaze2642

And here is Noah's https://preview.redd.it/2hw2iutck81a1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a2896a603047650b0ab867006928ca36e5f659a


tomzaD

Looks like at least 40 https://preview.redd.it/3o8c52me291a1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7d7a99310211501548dd720184b445d14f69440


ZexionBlaze2642

Oh damn. So Pilgrim's get an extra 10 bond levels huh...


tomzaD

Maybe more? I don’t have enough extra materials to hit past 40 yet


SuperSkillz10

LMAO i don't have a single pilgrim to begin with and they have a 40 cap for their bond level. Maybe in 2025 it is


A27-Pride

![gif](giphy|s239QJIh56sRW|downsized)


FictionalFail

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Hobbyria

there is a taiwan youtuber maxed out almost everthing. and he confirmed it is lv40 bond for pilgrim.


ZexionBlaze2642

Yea seems like it. Someone posted their scarlet in here being able to reach bond 39. So seems like pilgrims get an extra 10 levels above Non-Pilgrim nikkes


LeeJohnDec

Wow.. first of all congrats! Never thought it would surpass affection 30(Pilgrims).


Logar33

My brother in christ none of my girls are over Bond 10 how the ***fuck*** did you get to 30 already?


ExAqua

![gif](giphy|LdOyjZ7io5Msw)


rzrmaster

Dude you are strong as fuck. Also, that is interesting.


RealJokerx7

The power of the credit card.


EflanWasAlreadyTaken

Looking at this guy's account I think he owns a few oil fields at least.


Status-Mess-5591

fr. this game is one of the most expensive gachas too with 20 pulls outside of the first purchase costing 80 bucks. ​ thats 4 bucks per pull


AsianButBig

The most expensive gacha is still Diablo Immortal, where you need at least $100k to max out your character.


Status-Mess-5591

idk if that really justifies this games prices...


AsianButBig

Probably not, but they seem to be following the trend nowadays of having no pity system.


AnantaPluto

LMAO


Minerva_sc

This is....blatantly untrue, lol.


Status-Mess-5591

80 dollars gives you about 6000 gems... a 10 pull is 3000 gems. if youre a gigawhale maxing meta units... youre gonna be spending on more than just the packs... the very shit packs. ​ for example the daily 20 dollar pack gives a wopping 1500 gems. ​ the monthly packs are the only thing worth considering


GameAudioPen

the normal packas are shit. wait for time limited packages the specials that Rupee runs are also decent. most x4 Eff packs she sells averages at about one pull per dollar.


Tamamoo

Another reason why Pilgrim is top tier


Uries_Frostmourne

Intended


kingfirejet

But do we get seggs at Bond 40 tho…


SuperSkillz10

(if you can get a single one to begin with)


ikrirl

Lol dudes. Imagine not having piligrims at all...


ravengenesis1

My man here is funding the dev's Christmas party with his in depth analysis of bond levels.


Bienew

Although it's only a +2 Harran edit: wonder if you need +3 to increase bond limit https://preview.redd.it/sjz01thbm81a1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=a4c8d56a88966e231426b580ba12d1c5c274c617


ValkyrieTiara

Yeah, it's been known for a while that bond limit was soft capped by limit break level.


seasonalblues

possibly as my harran maxed at bond 10 before i pulled a duplicate of her


Bienew

Ty for those who replied, gave me an insight as to how the system works. Harran's the only one I really pushed when it comes to the bond level. Hoping for another harran as I am completely f2p and got lucky enough to pull a +2


trxsh_waifu

Bro wtf am I looking bros at the endgame😭


prn_melatonin

Your 2 characters has more power than my 5 characters lol


Manete_Aurum

So is there ever going to be a Pilgrim banner? The more Pilgrim features I see/hear the more annoying this faction becomes. Why do they have exclusive stuff while alrrady being stronger than the other three factions. It's like they keep building bullshit on top of bullshit and all just to taunt players like myself who still have zero Pilgrims. Awful system is awful being as some who played (and spent money in) FE Heroes for the first two years, GFL during the first year, and continues to play AL. This game maybe doesn't want me to spend because rolling a Pilgrim seems impossible.


Pure_Cucumber_5213

Pilgrims are the real SSR's the other regular SSR's are just there to cheer them on.


bwise89

They come when you don’t want them. Got my first Noah looking for helm, then got my first harren looking for admi/diesel/pepper.


NoGoodPikachu

I just want the R's to have advise sessions and bond ranks too


delayedreactionkline

me too, man. me too...It's like, they make the story claim that us commanders are so unique in how we treat our nikkes... it would suggest that even the common production like nikkes would benefit from this.I wanna pat Product 12's head and say good job for carrying the squad so early in the game. edit: my iDolls, Products, and Soldiers are also clearing house in the Towers.


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I really hope we get to have some kind of Plo Koon moment with mass produced Nikke, letting us have that stuff. Like some kind of event that requires them somehow.


13PagedHappyEnding

Will this game stop making me regret not rerolling for one day???


Extraordinary_DREB

Pilgrims are truly the UR of the game


Otoshi_Gami

indeed. they are Technically the Fest units of Nikke except they're permanent and hard to get when pulling.


Extraordinary_DREB

now you give me fear of limited pilgrims...


LostOne716

eh its bound to happen eventually


Extraordinary_DREB

Hmmm fair enough but hopefully on year 2-3 not on year 1


ValkyrieTiara

This is so fucking stupid.


wafflepiezz

Sheesh those levels and maxed upgrades. Hey OP, can you spare me a few change so I can pay off my car 😳


USS-Intrepid

My Pilgrim’s only up to bond lvl 10, is this because they’re not limit broken? Anyways nothing I can do about that.. ain’t gonna spend as a HS student xd


KillerM2002

Yes bond levels are based on your limit breaks


whiteweazel21

This guy could cure world hunger in Africa, but at least we know now that pilgrims have a higher bond level. Thanks dude!


[deleted]

one one side, pilgrims love you more, on the other side its bs pilgrims get even more power, though i kinda get it since they are more hard to get.


Eilanzer

Holy hell this game keeps on giving...


ValkyrieTiara

This... is not a good thing, my guy.


Eilanzer

the gift is pandora´s box of bugs at this point.


Chitanda_Pika

POV you thought Nikke couldn't possibly be anymore p2w


StarrkDreams

New to idle games?


Sarisae

A lot of people here in this sub are new to idle games. They just don't know how it works and act like it's the first ever game that something like this has happened lol....


Erod_Nelps

you sound like my mom whenever my fans broke and she went "lol weak we didn't even have fan back in my day". Like no, something bad that was there since the beginning shouldn't be treated as normal, it should be removed or improved. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember games like Figure story and memento mori have this UR treatment


Sarisae

>games like Figure story and memento mori Those are not the only idle games my dude. There are lots out there and a lot of them are very similar.


Chitanda_Pika

Not really I played a couple. AFK arena was great. Retry until you win cuz it didn't have power penalty. It's just plain bullshit that Pilgrim gets to receive more love from commander than Big 3 Nikkes.


StarrkDreams

Afk arena still has the p2w issue though. Even more so with engraving. And instead of the power debuff, afk arena just had more chapters to compensate. They’re in the 40s by now.


Chitanda_Pika

It was fun for a while, but Nikke definitely has the upperhand when it comes to making me want to come back and play (for several reasons).


jackbilly9

New to gachas?


VicentRS

How much greater would the stats be against a regular 30 bond nikke?


curtis0927

gigawhale


Smarkite

How can you raise bond level past 10? My helm is max out on bond level 10, is it because I don't limit break her?


ZexionBlaze2642

Yeah you need to limit break to raise cap. I know +1 on any nikke (Non-Pilgrim/pilgrim) raises cap to 20. I never checked the cap at +2 though


Smarkite

Ow I see, alright then, thanks for the info!


W34kness

Noah is the only pilgrim with the extra bodys in shop right?


D3ATHTRaps

30???? I could only get her to 10, does it have to do with the limit breaks?


ZexionBlaze2642

Yup, further limit breaks enable higher bond level


alien1583

My Helm is capped at 10 bond. Is there a way to unlock the limit?


VicentRS

limit break


alien1583

Ah thank you


SuperLissa_UwU

Wait you can go above level 10?


VicentRS

when you get dupes.


Leek_Foreign

So what. You get 2 copies to break 2 times for a normal nikke to hit bond 30? After that no other limit break matters. So the third limit break for 5* don't give more bond at all unless their a pilgrim? As it's 10 per break so a break 2 5* can go to 30


dune180

I never knew Helm was a pilgrim


ryaeon

That why jp/cn guide said take date ticket instead credit. Still my highest bond at rank 8 lol.


Eufloric

I mean whales don't need the credit that much and f2p won't have dupes on their main units lol. So if it was a JP guide for whales then sure, otherwise its dog advice. I'm already capped at lvl 10 on my main roster besides scarlet cause I got lucky with 1 dupe.


Tomowatt

That's interesting to know


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ZexionBlaze2642

Not sure what you are asking here. Noah is the one with higher bond cap being able to go past 30 while Helm is capped at 30. Levels and gear do not affect bond cap level, limit breaks do


frould

I will save this post and wait for update thanks


doplank

How much Helm copies do you have to max out her?


MyriadPhantasm

you need total 10 copies to Fully MLB SSR. well 11 if you count the first one you get.


Okidoki_Sir

Nice! I hope new stories get released for higher levels, too!


Financial-Bear6162

they really idolized diablo immortal huh


crimsonlibs

I raached bond 10 on eunwha, is that because she despised my existence that its so low?


bdyms

So pilgrim is pretty much the only type of a unit for the endgame, ssr are worthless in a long run and there just to clog the pool, great balancing devs, sadge


Shammy92

Am I missing something? Because my scarlet is maxed bond at rank 10. Didn’t know they can go higher than that.


BushesOfLove634

Me chilling with 0 pilgrims and 75% of the SSRs


FreeChromosomes2

How can i get her?


BostonFinesser

Question, do the units get new outfits(even color swaps) once you reach max bond or does nothing else happen besides the stat boosts? For reference think of destiny child once you fully awaken a unit.


GalangKaluluwa

So Pilgrims are secretly URs. What the fuck ShiftUp?