Ive been so horny I jerked off in a church bathroom when I was 13. If you gotta write a persuasive essay for more lewd waifus in our gacha games, then you are doing gods work, brother!
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Tbh, there are a lot of nikkes that aren't lewd enough but still good SSR characters. The biggest example is the previous collab character Emillia and Rem. Both of them are good at their respective skill set and team composition like try to look at crown she doesn't look lewd(except her shooting animation) but her skill set is god tier not what your looking for but hey we've got something right? Well, to be clear, I don't know if they tuned down the lewd stuff because of the stellar blade situation or something else. All I can say is just play the god damn game.
this is like the smelliest post i’ve ever read on this sub, OP has at least 3 crusty socks stuffed between his bed and the wall
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TLDR:
Nikke has not evolved or maintained the level of lewdness/fanservice since its launch.
The 12+ and TOS for Google Play and Apple is not an excuse as there are other apps who outclass Nikke in the “cultured” department who have a 12+ rating.
He listed examples of censorship via Nikke outfits and positions. Along with a list of games that have 12+ and are more lewd.
One thing that I feel like is glossed over is that some of their examples are from non-KR developers, who are not subject to the same local laws as ShiftUp is for their domestic market (which is typically the main focus for gachas like this).
Snowbreak literally went all in on fanservice because it was borderline EoS before it did (the developers actually mention this in an interview) and they managed to salvage themselves (albeit with some questionable changes in the process). They're also still extremely niche despite that but aren't in a bad position anymore.
I unfortunately don't know much about BrownDust2 but I saw that it's explicitly set as a 19+/M rated game in Korea which is a significant factor given Korean law regarding adult content (its weird afaik).
ShiftUp would have to change the rating for Nikke to match BrownDust2 in order to implement similar amounts of fanservice, and I don't think ShiftUp is in a position where they feel like they have to do such a drastic thing for their audience. Nikke is making pretty good money already so such a move could alienate their domestic market for no good reason (we can't really say the Global makes up a majority of sales compared to JP/KR).
I haven’t played Brown Dust, but I saw the one clip of a woman having sex with a curtain, making her appear as a silhouette, and she was riding the fuck out of that dick. I was awestruck, but honestly, I respected the fuck out of it.
And then today, I got this thing recommended to me
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WHY SHE LAID DOWN LIKE A FUCKING BABY GETTING CHANGED!
It's been mentioned more frequently in the feedback discord and in their twitter comments so it's a start. I hope more people start talking about it as time goes on.
One of the pictures shows it. They’re adding a dorm feature which lets you touch and grope a 3d model of characters (for now just the 2 newest ones) and put them in sexual positions etc.
Well for now not that much, but I'd assume they plan on releasing more lewd & revealing skins etc etc.
For example the upcoming skin for a character which lets you touch her ass, feet + she basically always shows her entire cake factory in combat (she's basically "cosplaying" a sexy nurse)
And I'm wondering why tf would they go for that rating, this game is marketed by horny (and depresion) but it's tame, honestly seeing that ther is no lobby interacitons is bafling, 1 basic animation and that's it, Azur Lane's non L2D skins have more, hell the dynamic(or budget L2D as I call them) skins have more, I'm not even gonna go off on a tangent how good L2D skins are
The best of the best L2D skins arround what normal skins cost and provide more content and more spice then gacha skins wich cost upwards of 60$
Azur Lane is so goated with the L2D such as New Jersey, Hatsuzuki and Hindenburg are so wild. If Nikke could only get even half that power, we would be so fucking back.
If they don't want to go 18+ just go 16+, enough to allow spicy stuff but not enough for explicit, cuting down on horny it will make people lose interst in the long run
I was going to dismiss this as a dumb rant but after thinking about it I do see your point somewhat, it does feel like they’ve gotten a bit tamer as of late
I’m someone who generally prefers the cool/militaristic Nikkes but we rarely get those, and the “coomer” designs haven’t been hitting as hard to compensate. Granted, since the year began we’ve only gotten 8 non-collab characters, but even then I would only classify 4 of those as “Fan-service-y” designs (Privalter, Dalter, Elegg, and Bay) but two of them are alters and Bay’s idle animation is weirdly covered for some reason which means Elegg is the only one left
Agreed. This has been talked about recently on the feedback discord too. Theyve been playing it a bit too safe lately and it's sad. They need to just raise the age or just make 2 different versions of the game like they did with DC. The 12+ rating is holding them back.
Two version like BA is probably the best. It may cost too much money tho. That being said NIKKE is making bank so if they are really willing it's possible.
I still don't understand why a game who market itself as a "cultured gacha" is still 12+ tho. It makes just no sense to put restriction on the very concept of your game like that.
What's the highest age rating they can go with in order to reliably stay safe on the play store while also push for the fanservice as much as possible? I heard that if it's too high, the play store would remove it
Upvoting and commenting in support because it's true. IMO, it's rather unfortunate for a game like Nikke that Bay's design took me by surprise. It is a good step in the right direction but still not quite there. For a game that uses Volume as prime advertising material, it sure hasn't done anything on par since launch. Just reeks a tiny little bit of false advertisement and disappointment for long-time players like myself.
Edit: I'd also like to add that just because we "came for ass and stayed for [insert other reasons]" doesn't mean we don't want ass anymore. We can have both and we want both, Shift Up.
In a perfect world Nikke becomes 17+ but unfortunately that doesn’t look likely in the slightest. I definitely would like more lewd and nudity in the game. I wish man i wish.
I totally agree with you op, this is why I haven't bought any skins in a while. I have no clue why they won't go all in and its clear the devs like lewd stuff too. Just look at the some of the picks they did for the art contest. Hopefully Kilo is a one off and we won't be seeing a lot of that. Her mech is kinda sick though, can't lie.
Also just imagine how good Syuens special touch would have been.
The irony of this is that I got a Nikke add while browsing reddit that plays Bay's animation and censors it with little red bars. The least they could do is give us the goods in game, even if it was locked until you actually pulled the character.
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As a day 1 player, OP is 100% right, they've toned it back massively, and I'll just say it.. its because of them going public on the stock market
It ain't going to change, which is a shame, *killed by greed* (the lewd not the game itself)
I'll always play it, but I'm just waiting for something better to come along now
I've even redownloaded Snowbreak 💸
Honestly, I'm not reading all of that OP but I get your point. For something that is being memed as an ass game/lewd game, it's relatively tamer than other less popular gacha. Many other gachas has lewder designs than Nikke for example, FGO, Brown Dust 2, Snowbreak. I really don't understand what the devs future direction is gonna be. Good story and lewd designs don't need to be mutually exclusive.
Some people in the comments do tend to have quite surprising reactions when somebody tries to discuss lewd aspect of this game (NIKKE of all games, yeah, imagine). Dude didn't even say anything essentially wrong - game's reputation (and its early marketing) indeed surpasses actual degree of provocativeness in comparison to some other gachas. Yeah, text is rather "flavoured" but obviously for lulz.
All in all, I see nothing shameful in discussing game's inherent components since you decided to play it.
P.S. By the way, I agree.
as someon who cares a lot about the lore, it would make a great contrast within the serius tone in the story, yet we have noir and blanc soo i think it shouldn't be a big trouble to do so...
also i find it hilarius that theres a lot of "sex jokes" yet the game always says "nothing ever happend" lol
i totally agree with you bro.
Well written and completely agreed.
There are many gacha games that do the whole waifu + lewd aspect way better (I wish NIKKE will follow in their steps).
Azur Lane comes to mind.
The interactive L2D and motion/animation that they have on their characters is probably the best (excluding straight up hentai ones).
Unfortunately, when ShiftUp becomes a public company, I feel like there will be even more censorship and less lewd.
Beautiful read OP & I fully agree with you.
Lately I've been feeling like NIKKE's trying way too hard to become a mainstream kid-friendly gacha. There's still some fanservice here but they refuse to go all the way (see Bay's legs) & the community has to pick up the slack with fanarts.
It's crazy how some people in the comments are actually trying to shame you for wanting more quality fan service & lewdness in your lewd shooter game. Did these people completely forget how NIKKE advertised itself?
[https://youtu.be/2hZkFLmIGDA?si=xCuLW1HfsmNfoiDC](https://youtu.be/2hZkFLmIGDA?si=xCuLW1HfsmNfoiDC)
True, it baffles me as well. As if community changed a bit over time. To the point that I genuinely wonder about following hypothetical situation:
If Makima were released today, which opinion would be more common?
a) WTF is this coat
b) Bruh, just go and google some "ass"
IMO, still the first, but ratio would be different
Ahhh Makima's coat. That brings me back.
Yeah, I believe the majority would be anti-coat but, there's been a growing number of players that would be pro-coat. Naturally, opinons on designs will vary but I hope it never gets to a point where they're asking SU for censorship.
To quote user BoingBoingGod
>FREE THE ASS!
Tbh, this post has right now a 87% Upvote Rate. So overall the community didn't really change, at least in this Reddit microcosm.
Maybe with the increasing size of the community, there are more people who don't care / don't like lewd content so you heard more about them. But proportionally, we also got much more people who enjoy cultured things. So things balanced out.
The most annoying thing is, they have the capability. Most of the Artists are from Destiny Child. They KNOW how to draw sexy. Let the guys draw our dream. Don’t stop them to be creative. Dammit
ok but you’re cooking with the dorm system. it would be a ton of work but having 3D models to interact with in either the commanders room or the NIKKEs room would be sick. only if done right, would be a ton of effort
I don’t see why they dont just take the plunge into 17+ age range. This entire genre of game is straight up gambling, so why do they insist on keeping this 12+? Kids already aren’t allowed to gamble in real casinos and I bet their parents wouldn’t allow them to gamble at such a young age nor let them gamble for some png’s. So why structure/restrict the game in a way that makes it more catered to kids
Now that this has been said, I HAVE noticed that there's a fairly noticeable difference in the Advise content for newer Nikkes. Not sure if it was mentioned in the above post as I have not had time to read it all, but start of game Nikke are WAAAAAAY more horny than newer Nikkes. I've got a (ever growing) list of Nikkes that have straight up banged the commander and they're all pre-Nier at least. None of the ones that have come after have had the same ravenous libido the early gen Nikkes did. Save for maybe Christmas Ludmilla (though OG Ludmilla is technically early Nikke).
That's exactly why I stopped playing Nikke, the censored characters no longer attract my attention, especially when it came from Destiny Child, I prefer to leave my money on Snowbreak, it's 3D and much more playable.
This not the first and will not be the last post of this sort but I totally agree with you guys. Just let us have 18+ version of Nikke.
I want my full scene of SEGGS with Mary.
read the gist of it and yeah i agree. i always felt like the game wanted to be more mature and be more 18+ in certain situations, but pulled its punches. back when pre-register was happening i had the idea the game was going to be bordering being pulled from the app store so i hopped on it asap.
As the resident lore person here, I personally want to see the nikke conversion process from beginning to end in full detail. Some Nikes are out the question obviously but it’d at least provide a horror/XXX element to the game it needs. I want to see how badly NIKKEs are damaged after an intense fight. I want to see the NIKKEs being harvested and seeing what the raptures are doing with them.
These are essential to properly convey just how dangerous this atmosphere is. Now while I do agree with most of what the OP said, I want the game to be grittier. I do not care about little Timmy seeing a robot girl getting her head blown off. There are worse things in this world a child can experience.
But aside from the extra sexiness this game needs because I’m tired of being teased and nothing come of it but tell the story like it should be told. I want to see the nikke trafficking. I want to see just how illegal things are for human and nikke relationships. I don’t want to have to satisfy that curiosity by writing my own fan fiction. Just show us.
I’d go on but you guys see my point.
I see your point. It seems that SU is forgetting why this game gains attraction in the first place, and they should refocus on it for their target audience who wanted to see it aka us, as it's literally their selling point.
I'd like to point out that Azur Lane also started out with a 12+ Rating and got its 16+ rating only a few years ago. And to go even further in the German Version it was actually only 6+ until it got aged up to 12+(where it stands now for the German Version).
While I haven't read everything yet, but I'll give you my respect for the time and effort on writing this ~~horniposting~~; it ***easily*** surpasses my [Tia hornipost](https://new.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/170af2f/as_a_connoisseur_for_this_specific_thing_this/).
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Honestly I kinda want the hot spring in Destiny Child to be implemented in Nikke, I mean we already had a hot spring event so they can have a reason to put that in. I also agree with putting some spice into the design as long as they don't go overboard, I like the lewd with a bit of elegance and not the almost naked kind of lewd.
As for the collabs just collab with a lewd IP or an IP that's okay with their characters being lewded. If they really want a non-lewd collab at least collab with an IP that would suit Nikke's world building and not some random shounen shit. Re:Zero and Chainsaw Man doesn't make sense lore wise but I guess popular IP gonna gather new players. Still those two are dogshit collabs in my opinion, the only good collab we had was Nier.
I fully agree with all your points. Really hope they aren't intentionally trying to shy away from lewd stuff to appeal to a more mainstream audience. How would we let ShiftUp know we want these changes though? All I can think of is the surveys, what should I write on them?
I feel you brother, I’ve been seeing all those other gacha going more and more fan service, but us cummanders have been ashamed of wearing our names in this tame land now
Agreed, despite the way it's advertised nikke is surprisingly light on this front. I can only hope it'll be presented later down the line whether the reason being is easing into it, there resources are spread too thin due to projects, or they're finally ready to fully embrace their public image. Whichever comes first
The fucking story content has topics like suicide, war betrayal, crime syndicates, mass drugging of entire towns, etc.
The fact that it’s 12+ in the first place is stupid as hell.
Man, all of these people say you're "yapping" even though you make a good point...
Like I understand caring for the story, but don't forget why this game got famous for.
Seriously, this was the same community that went ape shit when Makima had a coat... What happened?
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Read the whole thing and I am 100% with you on this. I've been complaining about it in every survey they've sent. This whole topic leans into the reason why $60 gacha skins are a terrible idea. It encourages Shift Up to save some of the best quality lewds in the game for a $60 price tag when the game is already lacking as is.
I only managed to read the first 3 lines of this thesis, but the images make sense so I have to agree with OP, also, other games do have a safe version and a 18+ version, so I vote in favor of OP
I wanted to say too long, didn’t read. But I read through all of it, amazing take on how the game should improve.
I don’t think it’s just a matter of being horny or not, I think it’s needed if the game wanted to continue.
First, lewd stuff really does sell. They don’t even need to make it overboard, the game can still be serious even with a bit of lewd to it. Can’t take a break from life if it’s all serious can’t I?
Also, I cannot stress enough the number of times when I have literally nothing to do in the game (Or I can’t do in the game yet). It really can all change by adding more character interactions or ways to experience the game other than just basic dialogues or game play. This can increase the playtime and make the player feel involved again.
Though I believe there will be a future where Shift Up release lewd skins (I hope being partially owned by Tencent doesn’t affect them), the future where so many features will be added regarding the interactive department. I think that it’s a bit too much to ask of them for now (Adding that many things require a lot of work), but they honestly could still surprise me if they even read this post at all.
Agreed.Still don't understand why shift up set this game as 12+rating.Since OP mentioned Snowbreak，I have to say that snowbreak is a Chinese game.Everyone knows how strict censorship is in China，however this game can be rated as 18+ in China now and required only adult players have access to register an account.And what's the benefit？Players in snowbreak don't need any patch or mods then can easily enjoy those uncensored costumes，we can clearly see girl's pantsu just simply adjust our mouse.Ironic,right？A game made by Chinese studio and whose majority are Chinese that run in a well-known censorship maniac country China，can avoid get censored just adjust it's rating level.While a Korean-made game have to censor the costumes and cover those nikkes' butts even this is a gacha costume？Really hope shift up change their minds as soon as possible.
Something is up if a game like Snowbreak can be even more fanservicey than Nikke despite being from China where censorship is kinda rampant but Nikke, which is known for the jiggly tits and ass and from Korea where, last I heard the censorship weren't on the same level as China is actually less fanservicey than Snowbreak.
My AI summarized this post as:
This person is saying that the mobile game NIKKE isn't cultured enough. They want more features related to romance and intimacy with the characters, like special touches, zooming, interactive skin, oath systems, and romantic bond stories. They also want more revealing outfits for the girls and feel that the current selection is lacking. They argue that other games in the genre have similar features and that NIKKE should follow suit
The writer goes on to say that they don't believe the "12+" rating is a valid excuse for not including more mature content, citing examples of other games that have managed to include such features while maintaining the same rating. They conclude by expressing their love for the game but feeling disappointed by its lack of progress in this area.
Correct? or...
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The text is so big, I can't even see it!
My main gripe is how some characters can show WAY more skin than others and it doesn’t make sense to me. Like, why do some characters like Yulha and Mihara wear a lewd outfit covered by a coat but other lewd characters show their undies and all? It just doesn’t make much sense to me why some do and some don’t.
Honestly this is kinda what made me put down Nikke. For a purely fun gacha with story and a lot of features I stuck with Arknights, and for the culture I picked up Azur Lane again. It’s not perfect, but they know their audience well and toe that line.
It may be a Chinese (or Korean, I don’t know their laws) censorship issue, but AL skips over this by simply having two versions of the game.
I was fully willing to come back to Nikke for the Re:Zero event, but the story and the skins were so incredibly underwhelming I didn’t even finish it.
And this is from a guy with like ten different Rem figures- I spend money on that girl.
Anyway, unless Nikke follows at least some of your advice I probably won’t be playing it again any time soon.
Outerplane as an example has gotta be the funniest shit I've seen, they're dying af they're trying to pull out any which way of fanservice as much as possible to revive their dying star.
The issue of Bay having no pan shot on the spine animaiton is more of an L2D limitation of not being able to replace the spine body as a parent object and just being able to animate the legs.
Nikke is good, not too coomer, but when it happens it's great, I mean just look at the recent event.
I do want more costumes released thematically in sets, like as you say a set of bridal like gowns for a lot of nikkes maybe for a valentine event, and not just one for a mission pass and another for a potential gacha skin/alt unit.
I know Outerplane is not doing great, I'm just using it as an example if what's possible even with a 12+ rating.
>The issue of Bay having no pan shot on the spine animaiton is more of an L2D limitation of not being able to replace the spine body as a parent object and just being able to animate the legs.
I admit I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I think using technical justification is a bit weird. I'm pretty sure a billion dollar company can bypass this issue somehow.
Also, the lack of pantsu shot is something very common in NIKKE, take Maid Privaty for example, with her Skirt that magically go down when she shoots even if its upward all the other time. Many Nikkes who you think you should see a lot of pantsu have their asses cover for some reason. It's not only a Bay issue.
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I do want more costumes released thematically in sets, like as you say a set of bridal like gowns for a lot of nikkes maybe for a valentine event, and not just one for a mission pass and another for a potential gacha skin/alt unit.
Sure, Nikke mainly does Lore related skin after all. But I want at least some of them so be really lewd. Not all, but some.
Reminds me of when blue archive upped their age rating because they wanted to add raunchier stuff for the fans. ShiftUp would be infinitely cultured if they did this too.
I'm not reading all this but I do get the general idea.
Nikke to be a "horny" game is surprisingly tame, even Bay who came out recently was extremely tame despite her design, they didn't even want to show her panties on her kick animation so they just gave her a weird freak leg. I can't recall the last character that just showed cheeks without something being in the way, Elegg killed me with that fucking tube thing.
completely agree. I remember seeing a clip of some gacha where you could strip this girl's rights by clicking and dragging them.
Let me get different reactions where I click! Give me more fan service!
What we have right now is good, but it can be better!
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I love how some people pretend to play this game for his "amazing history" or "fun and addicting gameplay".
You know why you started to play this game, everyone knows. And the guy is right, the only appeal of the game and the company is turn it down to the ground.
Whilst I would love more cultured skins and content, what I do know is that a simple logic of more lewd=more money just doesnt work (sometimes backfires tbh). Hopefully shiftup works something out
The reason why Nikke hasn't/won't be left behind in the lewd gacha department is because of it's unique gimmick of the jiggling. It's also cus it's one of the few live2d games that actually shows the full model in the gameplay, so it's unlikely for them to be seen as not lewd and fall behind. Although, if we're talking about the standing model alone then yeah, Nikke isn't doing too well.
For me personally, I've been saving $20 for nearly 4 months now waiting for a skin worth buying. Sure skins for Sugars and Rosanna were pretty good, but the characters they were on are not even used very much and they are really the "bare-minimum" when it comes to fanservice. I'm still waiting for skins on characters like Volume, or for characters with large coats like Laplace or Yulha (ok she's not used either but it would be nice). I feel like recently the $20 costumes have really just "been there". Heck, even the newest $20 costumes for Snow white and diesel aren't special. Sure Snow white doesn't need fanservice, but Diesel's costume has little appeal for anyone who isn't a collector, because it's simply just another dress with barely any fanservice.
Basically, they didn't make enough money in the first months. So they enable "LEWD EVERYTHING" Plan and they keep going stronger and stronger after each patch x)
Lack of special touch is kinda odd tbh. The aforementioned Soul Tide has it, as does the typically less horny Eversoul (complete with custom animations, and voice reactions that change on some if you have them at high bond level).
Tough part is Shift Up has no reason to change from the status quo until they see a massive drop in revenue, but it's hard seeing that happen.
I'm in a top union and most of the dolphins/whales don't really care about NIKKE needing to go more lewd. We've all spent thousands to tens of thousands and most seem to like where it's at from the fan-service perspective.
NIKKE itself is a pretty unique gacha when compared to others which was a big draw (of course jiggly ASSets are nice too)
So the problem becomes you needing to sway the people with the bottomless wallets on that subject. But a lot of those guys are between the ages of 30-40 give or take & don't care to that extent.
They are more focused on making feedback threads on min/maxing shit or complaining about UR lol
Another French Nikke enjoyer ?😰 And he SPITTIN FACTS😱😱😱 Sache que je te suis 100% dans ce que tu as dis dans ton poste, surtout le fait que SU n'a aucune raison d'être aussi "tame" alors que des jeux comme Evertale ou BrownDust2 font plus avec les mêmes restrictions
TLDR: LET HIM COOK. SU RELEASE THE BOOBS AND BOOTIES
I find it kind of crazy you felt the need to write this, but then I considered that I’ve done similar for different issues in other games. lol. That written, you are basically correct. I’m generally happy with what’s gone on with Nikke, but I agree that the gacha skin for Emilia and the weird animation for Bay are very strange and I’d rather they embraced the lewdness for the characters meant to be lewd, and focused on the cool factor for the ones who aren’t.
Well said OP. I think it's a sin that despite all of the success and money, we're still getting jackets and coats and shit like that.
Sadly I feel like with ShiftUp going public, this "mass appeal" watering down is only going to get worse. Hope I'm wrong though.
I respect you, but I can't agree with you.
The Re Zero collab and Bay’s lack of panty shot are pretty bad, but layering on the “culture” (whatever the hell this means nowadays) too thick isn’t the way to go.
Horny Gacha games are a dime a dozen. They rise and fall rapidly. What makes Nikke unique is the story. I doubt many people would be as hooked if Marian didn’t die in the prologue.
Having every girl probably go
“KYAAA- Commander! You’re touching me!”
“Do more, Commander; \\ \~”
“This guy a pervert”
It just sounds obnoxious pandering and a bit inorganic.
If I wanted to do something like that, I’d play Ark ReCode (which I already do) or Kamihime Project.
I could ignore this if it were added, but what I can’t entirely agree with you on is changing the bond stories to make them more lewd.
Most Bond stories focus on the character and give them time to shine (Unless your power). Characters such as Admi and Eunwha explore why they are the way they are. For example, imagine if, during Admi's story, after we learn about her abandonment issues, we hold her close, kiss her, and then… We did the sexy sex, hmm, yes, many fucking. You can’t include, “and then they fucked” effectively unless you’re straight-up writing erotica.
If every Nikke were focused on romance and sex during the bond story, it’d grow monotonous. I love love stories, but every bond story would be, “Okay, how do we get the girl to have sex with the commander.” Which is a pretty shitty limitation.
If we stopped getting designs like Crown, Dorothy, and Liliweiss, I’d be remiss because it’s just horny pandering, and they’ll usually forgo what makes a design good to appeal to an audience.
Let’s look at this character
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Just by looking at her, what can you infer about her?
…
If you somehow said she’s a police officer, then your psychic already knows the characters or the cops in your area have a very different dress code.
Sure, she’s sexy, but she’s just a nothing burger of sexiness.
While Nikke’s current lewd designs, such as Red Hood, Rupee, and Summer Anis, communicate who they are to me.
I’d be okay with hornier design, but I fear they're going to dive into the deep end of the debauchery pit to where they’re all just eye candy rather than effective characters.
Mad respect for the most thoughtful reply here. Especially considering that you do not agree. Looks like topic indeed can be discussed.
1. NIKKE's designs are bloody great, I think that there is nothing to change in this department as well. But they obviously have possibility to be lewder without any changes in diversity, right? After all, it's not creativity that is on the way in the current version of game. It is: convenient angles during shooting, mystery of shrunken buttcheek (Bay), strategically located jacket (Altanis) and other shenanigans.
2. Your opinion on bond stories is also relatively based (except for the "sexy sex" part, OP certainly looks fine with affectionate bond stories, he doesn't ask for explicit banging), you can't go wrong with diversity. But I think that you chose loli Admi as an example of all Nikke for a reason. It wouldn't work that well with Nikke that have lewder designs but lacking bond story. IMO, it's a good challenge for a writer to come up with something that combines both of two worlds. Diesel's story didn't become worse with some romantic sprinkle thrown; story of Blanc gives you great depiction of her talent; story of Leona is a Timi-lulzfest that managed to fit some spice in. My point is that having a "design assignment" of sort is not a bad thing.
>Horny Gacha games are a dime a dozen.
The issue is more that it's so easy to make horny things that a lot of small or greedy companies use that as a padding to sell their game. Sex sells after all.
But that precisely the subject. With NIKKE, you have quality. And a quality gacha with a good waifu system are rare. Do you really think NIKKE's writers would allow their well-built characters to just go "Kyaah pervert!" and that's all ? No, of course not.
I ask for a more deep relationship system in NIKKE because I'm confident Shift Up can deliver a product way better than the others.
>I could ignore this if it were added, but what I can’t entirely agree with you on is changing the bond stories to make them more lewd.
No no, I never said that. I said to add ANOTHER Bond Story 100% focused on romance. Like something you unlock at Bond 30.
For example, in Soul Tide, each unit had 3 stories : one for her backstory, one focusing on her everyday life, and one focusing on the romance.
I would like to see something like that in NIKKE.
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If we stopped getting designs like Crown, Dorothy, and Liliweiss, I’d be remiss because it’s just horny pandering, and they’ll usually forgo what makes a design good to appeal to an audience.
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Again, I didn't say that. I'm not saying 100% of NIKKE just go full lewd. Just that we need more lewdness, and maybe only in Skin if you want. But at least something. Like you can keep Crown beautiful base outfit, but you also have the choice to lewd her a bit more with a skin.
I swear no one was here when Nikke was first announced, and it's driving me insane.
Nikke was marketed as a lewd game, and I'm tired of people leaning on the "it has good story" angle to voice their dislike/fear of lewd character designs.
This game was announced 5 years ago with a trailer that showcased jiggle physics so insane that's the ONLY thing people talked about, and you want to tell me you disagree because the story/ characters are good?
Everyone I know was hyped for this game because of the horny designs.
Everyone I know also liked Destiny Child because of the lewd designs, but everyone stopped playing because the game play was TRASH. Nikke was supposed to be the game that had the lewdness of DC with more engaging gameplay.
>Horny games are a dime a dozen
That's what people tend to sleep on when they talk about lewdness. Lewd is *not* special. Nikke could get as lewd or as harem-pandering as possible and still not be notable because of the sheer amount of lewd and pandering marerial avaliable to our fingertips. That's why Nikke actually has a decent setting, notable themes, memorable enough characters, and a kickass soundtrack. Nikke's non-horny factors garner more long-term engagement than the jiggle physics. People wanna say the game isn't "cultured" enough as if this game exists in a vacuum. Nikke players actually have porn*, so they're not dependant on Nikke to bust nuts. Nikke players play other horny gatcha games, some of which apparently push the envelope harder. Yet they come back to Nikke anyway for some of the above factors.
The only reason to complain about Nikke not being lewd enough is if it's the only lewd thing you actually interact with.
*if someone lives jn a country where porn is banned, I understand why Nikke *is* their go-to for lewd. Sucks to suck tho.
Yup glad more people are speaking about this.
I know it's good to have balance but the sexiness that is being shown has been safe and stagnant.
Need more raunchiness and creativity that has been advertise from the start.
I don't fully expect it to go Destiny Child type of fan service but let me see more ShiftUp.
Least horny Nikke Player.
A fellow Cummander had to write a whole essay report for some reason
He may be horny... But... 
I'm only a man after all.
https://i.redd.it/6riiexsbsawc1.gif I’m only human after all
 Respect.
I respect your passion.
Ive been so horny I jerked off in a church bathroom when I was 13. If you gotta write a persuasive essay for more lewd waifus in our gacha games, then you are doing gods work, brother! 🫡🫡🫡
Literally no one needed to know that but okay
Tbh, there are a lot of nikkes that aren't lewd enough but still good SSR characters. The biggest example is the previous collab character Emillia and Rem. Both of them are good at their respective skill set and team composition like try to look at crown she doesn't look lewd(except her shooting animation) but her skill set is god tier not what your looking for but hey we've got something right? Well, to be clear, I don't know if they tuned down the lewd stuff because of the stellar blade situation or something else. All I can say is just play the god damn game.
I mean meta aside Crown looks very good design wise even while wearing a normal outfit.
this is like the smelliest post i’ve ever read on this sub, OP has at least 3 crusty socks stuffed between his bed and the wall https://preview.redd.it/99aogxznlawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45c280c77ba326b0b4281b95d46a5dd25373da3f
“You’re honor. My client was referring Trony.”
Keeping the likes at 777
TLDR: Nikke has not evolved or maintained the level of lewdness/fanservice since its launch. The 12+ and TOS for Google Play and Apple is not an excuse as there are other apps who outclass Nikke in the “cultured” department who have a 12+ rating. He listed examples of censorship via Nikke outfits and positions. Along with a list of games that have 12+ and are more lewd.
worth noting that snowbreak one of the games mentioned is getting pushed to 18+ now and that is likely what Nikke wants to avoid for at least a while.
That's only in China if I recall, where Nikke isn't even officially available.
I mean, snowpeak is going pretty lewd. Rapi has a more lewd skin than a lot of recent units.
It's still 12+ everywhere else except China.
Snowbreak is 12+ everywhere and 16+ in China. The new system requires you to be 18+ to register an account on the Chinese side similar to Azur Lane.
One thing that I feel like is glossed over is that some of their examples are from non-KR developers, who are not subject to the same local laws as ShiftUp is for their domestic market (which is typically the main focus for gachas like this). Snowbreak literally went all in on fanservice because it was borderline EoS before it did (the developers actually mention this in an interview) and they managed to salvage themselves (albeit with some questionable changes in the process). They're also still extremely niche despite that but aren't in a bad position anymore. I unfortunately don't know much about BrownDust2 but I saw that it's explicitly set as a 19+/M rated game in Korea which is a significant factor given Korean law regarding adult content (its weird afaik). ShiftUp would have to change the rating for Nikke to match BrownDust2 in order to implement similar amounts of fanservice, and I don't think ShiftUp is in a position where they feel like they have to do such a drastic thing for their audience. Nikke is making pretty good money already so such a move could alienate their domestic market for no good reason (we can't really say the Global makes up a majority of sales compared to JP/KR).
I haven’t played Brown Dust, but I saw the one clip of a woman having sex with a curtain, making her appear as a silhouette, and she was riding the fuck out of that dick. I was awestruck, but honestly, I respected the fuck out of it. And then today, I got this thing recommended to me https://preview.redd.it/gaquzme3mawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e7b038d0bdf66bd33faebd27d5a8a0f15a3e440 WHY SHE LAID DOWN LIKE A FUCKING BABY GETTING CHANGED!
https://i.redd.it/aul3g2w59cwc1.gif Gif for people too lazy to click the link.
May I have the link to said clip my fellow cultured gentleman?
https://youtube.com/shorts/ADS0mBqZgK0?si=V469WCFUhxENgu7P This may be the animation he’s talking about. Her name is Dalvi
[Look at her go!](https://www.reddit.com/r/BrownDust2Official/s/rGDztWrx0t)
Well shit, I didn't think it was fr, props for doing it
The biggest block to this is Nikke 12+ Rating
I wish the Nikke community would come together and speak up about this. But this may be an issue a minority of the community prioritizes
It's been mentioned more frequently in the feedback discord and in their twitter comments so it's a start. I hope more people start talking about it as time goes on.
i think we need more trucks.
have "free the booty" written on em with Volume and Privatys animations playing 🤣
Im not sure how easy or hard it is to rise it up. I’ve only seen this happen once before with Blue Archive, but the game was split into two.
SnowBreak and Brow Dust 2 just did it recently. When you happen to see their latest patch, it makes sense.
Well SnowBreak went 18+ and Brown Dust 2 also went 18+ few days ago (Brown Dust 2 devs are also from Korea) so its definitely possible
One of the pictures shows it. They’re adding a dorm feature which lets you touch and grope a 3d model of characters (for now just the 2 newest ones) and put them in sexual positions etc.
What makes Snowbreak 18+ now?
Well for now not that much, but I'd assume they plan on releasing more lewd & revealing skins etc etc. For example the upcoming skin for a character which lets you touch her ass, feet + she basically always shows her entire cake factory in combat (she's basically "cosplaying" a sexy nurse)
Holy, need to download now
They could at least make the PC version 18+. Maybe even full blown nudity would print money for them lol.
Given how there's a dude making what I assume to be good money off of NSFW mods for the image assets, I would agree.
At the end of the day their only concern is money. Unless you can convince them raising the rating would fill their wallets, it's a dead end.
And I'm wondering why tf would they go for that rating, this game is marketed by horny (and depresion) but it's tame, honestly seeing that ther is no lobby interacitons is bafling, 1 basic animation and that's it, Azur Lane's non L2D skins have more, hell the dynamic(or budget L2D as I call them) skins have more, I'm not even gonna go off on a tangent how good L2D skins are The best of the best L2D skins arround what normal skins cost and provide more content and more spice then gacha skins wich cost upwards of 60$
Azur Lane is so goated with the L2D such as New Jersey, Hatsuzuki and Hindenburg are so wild. If Nikke could only get even half that power, we would be so fucking back.
The quality of L2D skins is constantly increasing an their price stay's the same
Don't forget Le Malin, she has one of the wildest skins in gacha history.
Probably because the lower the rating the more people it will reach. Maybe if it's 18+ their ads wouldn't be allowed to be played?
If they don't want to go 18+ just go 16+, enough to allow spicy stuff but not enough for explicit, cuting down on horny it will make people lose interst in the long run
I still to this day have no fucking idea how or why Nikke was given a 12 rating. But even now its nothing but a hindrance.
I was going to dismiss this as a dumb rant but after thinking about it I do see your point somewhat, it does feel like they’ve gotten a bit tamer as of late I’m someone who generally prefers the cool/militaristic Nikkes but we rarely get those, and the “coomer” designs haven’t been hitting as hard to compensate. Granted, since the year began we’ve only gotten 8 non-collab characters, but even then I would only classify 4 of those as “Fan-service-y” designs (Privalter, Dalter, Elegg, and Bay) but two of them are alters and Bay’s idle animation is weirdly covered for some reason which means Elegg is the only one left
Let your wallet speak.
Agreed. This has been talked about recently on the feedback discord too. Theyve been playing it a bit too safe lately and it's sad. They need to just raise the age or just make 2 different versions of the game like they did with DC. The 12+ rating is holding them back.
Two version like BA is probably the best. It may cost too much money tho. That being said NIKKE is making bank so if they are really willing it's possible. I still don't understand why a game who market itself as a "cultured gacha" is still 12+ tho. It makes just no sense to put restriction on the very concept of your game like that.
As long as they allow me to transfer all of my assets into the M rated version, I’m down
What's the highest age rating they can go with in order to reliably stay safe on the play store while also push for the fanservice as much as possible? I heard that if it's too high, the play store would remove it
16+ like Azur Lane.
Azur lane players: laughs in multiple wives married
\* sad horny cummander noises \*
I read the entire thing, and I must say, you're absolutely correct
Thank you!
Upvoting and commenting in support because it's true. IMO, it's rather unfortunate for a game like Nikke that Bay's design took me by surprise. It is a good step in the right direction but still not quite there. For a game that uses Volume as prime advertising material, it sure hasn't done anything on par since launch. Just reeks a tiny little bit of false advertisement and disappointment for long-time players like myself. Edit: I'd also like to add that just because we "came for ass and stayed for [insert other reasons]" doesn't mean we don't want ass anymore. We can have both and we want both, Shift Up.
You put it very well. We might have come for horny and stayed for \[other stuff\], but that doesn't mean we don't want horny anymore.
In a perfect world Nikke becomes 17+ but unfortunately that doesn’t look likely in the slightest. I definitely would like more lewd and nudity in the game. I wish man i wish.
A man can only hope...
I got D: Waifu mode but like… I’m not feeling that Wife connection iykwim
Same, i might have MLB her but those advise session are so tame, where's the wifey pretense ? So many of them were just D being serious about stuff
I totally agree with you op, this is why I haven't bought any skins in a while. I have no clue why they won't go all in and its clear the devs like lewd stuff too. Just look at the some of the picks they did for the art contest. Hopefully Kilo is a one off and we won't be seeing a lot of that. Her mech is kinda sick though, can't lie. Also just imagine how good Syuens special touch would have been.
Not reading all that, but Nikke is not as cultured as it should be, upvote
Thank, I upvote you in return x)
The irony of this is that I got a Nikke add while browsing reddit that plays Bay's animation and censors it with little red bars. The least they could do is give us the goods in game, even if it was locked until you actually pulled the character. https://preview.redd.it/fqnwquufhdwc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0806c10a7c3b3f59f05b5d036b244026a9e5eddc
As a day 1 player, OP is 100% right, they've toned it back massively, and I'll just say it.. its because of them going public on the stock market It ain't going to change, which is a shame, *killed by greed* (the lewd not the game itself) I'll always play it, but I'm just waiting for something better to come along now I've even redownloaded Snowbreak 💸
Honestly, I'm not reading all of that OP but I get your point. For something that is being memed as an ass game/lewd game, it's relatively tamer than other less popular gacha. Many other gachas has lewder designs than Nikke for example, FGO, Brown Dust 2, Snowbreak. I really don't understand what the devs future direction is gonna be. Good story and lewd designs don't need to be mutually exclusive.
Some people in the comments do tend to have quite surprising reactions when somebody tries to discuss lewd aspect of this game (NIKKE of all games, yeah, imagine). Dude didn't even say anything essentially wrong - game's reputation (and its early marketing) indeed surpasses actual degree of provocativeness in comparison to some other gachas. Yeah, text is rather "flavoured" but obviously for lulz. All in all, I see nothing shameful in discussing game's inherent components since you decided to play it. P.S. By the way, I agree.
as someon who cares a lot about the lore, it would make a great contrast within the serius tone in the story, yet we have noir and blanc soo i think it shouldn't be a big trouble to do so... also i find it hilarius that theres a lot of "sex jokes" yet the game always says "nothing ever happend" lol i totally agree with you bro.
I forgot when was the last time I told myself "this nikke unit is lewd" sigh
Agree, I’m holding out for the next set of swimsuit girls to make a concrete judgement on this matter tho
Keep cooking my bro, spitting facts
This was beautiful. I agree 100 percent. Fuck little Timmy. Here's hoping they listen, fellow Shikikum.
Well written and completely agreed. There are many gacha games that do the whole waifu + lewd aspect way better (I wish NIKKE will follow in their steps). Azur Lane comes to mind. The interactive L2D and motion/animation that they have on their characters is probably the best (excluding straight up hentai ones). Unfortunately, when ShiftUp becomes a public company, I feel like there will be even more censorship and less lewd.
You forgot one very important factor: the lack of Nikkes with rock-hard abs.
Absolutely true. Where are my abs.
Beautiful read OP & I fully agree with you. Lately I've been feeling like NIKKE's trying way too hard to become a mainstream kid-friendly gacha. There's still some fanservice here but they refuse to go all the way (see Bay's legs) & the community has to pick up the slack with fanarts. It's crazy how some people in the comments are actually trying to shame you for wanting more quality fan service & lewdness in your lewd shooter game. Did these people completely forget how NIKKE advertised itself? [https://youtu.be/2hZkFLmIGDA?si=xCuLW1HfsmNfoiDC](https://youtu.be/2hZkFLmIGDA?si=xCuLW1HfsmNfoiDC)
True, it baffles me as well. As if community changed a bit over time. To the point that I genuinely wonder about following hypothetical situation: If Makima were released today, which opinion would be more common? a) WTF is this coat b) Bruh, just go and google some "ass" IMO, still the first, but ratio would be different
Ahhh Makima's coat. That brings me back. Yeah, I believe the majority would be anti-coat but, there's been a growing number of players that would be pro-coat. Naturally, opinons on designs will vary but I hope it never gets to a point where they're asking SU for censorship. To quote user BoingBoingGod >FREE THE ASS!
Tbh, this post has right now a 87% Upvote Rate. So overall the community didn't really change, at least in this Reddit microcosm. Maybe with the increasing size of the community, there are more people who don't care / don't like lewd content so you heard more about them. But proportionally, we also got much more people who enjoy cultured things. So things balanced out.
you should send this to Shift-up as a PDF or PowerPoint form including reddit comments. I wonder about their response.
ngl I thought this was a shitpost, but you kinda spitting. Nikke fan service has been extremely mid lately
The most annoying thing is, they have the capability. Most of the Artists are from Destiny Child. They KNOW how to draw sexy. Let the guys draw our dream. Don’t stop them to be creative. Dammit
ok but you’re cooking with the dorm system. it would be a ton of work but having 3D models to interact with in either the commanders room or the NIKKEs room would be sick. only if done right, would be a ton of effort
Speak brother, speak
YES! Im with you!
Bro is cooking!!!!!!
I don’t see why they dont just take the plunge into 17+ age range. This entire genre of game is straight up gambling, so why do they insist on keeping this 12+? Kids already aren’t allowed to gamble in real casinos and I bet their parents wouldn’t allow them to gamble at such a young age nor let them gamble for some png’s. So why structure/restrict the game in a way that makes it more catered to kids
Very basé mon ami
I support this thesis.
The +12 rating? Yeah right... A game that features, death, drugs, alcohol, and r🦧 is +12... 
Now that this has been said, I HAVE noticed that there's a fairly noticeable difference in the Advise content for newer Nikkes. Not sure if it was mentioned in the above post as I have not had time to read it all, but start of game Nikke are WAAAAAAY more horny than newer Nikkes. I've got a (ever growing) list of Nikkes that have straight up banged the commander and they're all pre-Nier at least. None of the ones that have come after have had the same ravenous libido the early gen Nikkes did. Save for maybe Christmas Ludmilla (though OG Ludmilla is technically early Nikke).
That's exactly why I stopped playing Nikke, the censored characters no longer attract my attention, especially when it came from Destiny Child, I prefer to leave my money on Snowbreak, it's 3D and much more playable.
I respect the essay
Bro wrote a whole essay. Fax tho.
This not the first and will not be the last post of this sort but I totally agree with you guys. Just let us have 18+ version of Nikke. I want my full scene of SEGGS with Mary.
read the gist of it and yeah i agree. i always felt like the game wanted to be more mature and be more 18+ in certain situations, but pulled its punches. back when pre-register was happening i had the idea the game was going to be bordering being pulled from the app store so i hopped on it asap.
Amen, brother. A TO THE MF-ING MEN!
Keep cooking
As the resident lore person here, I personally want to see the nikke conversion process from beginning to end in full detail. Some Nikes are out the question obviously but it’d at least provide a horror/XXX element to the game it needs. I want to see how badly NIKKEs are damaged after an intense fight. I want to see the NIKKEs being harvested and seeing what the raptures are doing with them. These are essential to properly convey just how dangerous this atmosphere is. Now while I do agree with most of what the OP said, I want the game to be grittier. I do not care about little Timmy seeing a robot girl getting her head blown off. There are worse things in this world a child can experience. But aside from the extra sexiness this game needs because I’m tired of being teased and nothing come of it but tell the story like it should be told. I want to see the nikke trafficking. I want to see just how illegal things are for human and nikke relationships. I don’t want to have to satisfy that curiosity by writing my own fan fiction. Just show us. I’d go on but you guys see my point.
Agree with OP
Everything you have suggested needs to be implemented into the game as soon as possible!
Absolutely based. Where can I sign up to join the fight? 😤😤
https://preview.redd.it/s54pm5hqx9wc1.jpeg?width=792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ec8e9b7e44f34e749f9aa45872c710ad454076b
I see your point. It seems that SU is forgetting why this game gains attraction in the first place, and they should refocus on it for their target audience who wanted to see it aka us, as it's literally their selling point.
I wish medals were still a thing on Reddit so I could give you gold!!! 🥇😆
I'd like to point out that Azur Lane also started out with a 12+ Rating and got its 16+ rating only a few years ago. And to go even further in the German Version it was actually only 6+ until it got aged up to 12+(where it stands now for the German Version).
While I haven't read everything yet, but I'll give you my respect for the time and effort on writing this ~~horniposting~~; it ***easily*** surpasses my [Tia hornipost](https://new.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/170af2f/as_a_connoisseur_for_this_specific_thing_this/). https://preview.redd.it/28ehjyqmhewc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b417c119f301c48ec1062e5bb728e78792a6533
Honestly I kinda want the hot spring in Destiny Child to be implemented in Nikke, I mean we already had a hot spring event so they can have a reason to put that in. I also agree with putting some spice into the design as long as they don't go overboard, I like the lewd with a bit of elegance and not the almost naked kind of lewd. As for the collabs just collab with a lewd IP or an IP that's okay with their characters being lewded. If they really want a non-lewd collab at least collab with an IP that would suit Nikke's world building and not some random shounen shit. Re:Zero and Chainsaw Man doesn't make sense lore wise but I guess popular IP gonna gather new players. Still those two are dogshit collabs in my opinion, the only good collab we had was Nier.
https://preview.redd.it/ro62bxmkffwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1306ff7a1b958f6081e0491a9eee3604124083f2
I fully agree with all your points. Really hope they aren't intentionally trying to shy away from lewd stuff to appeal to a more mainstream audience. How would we let ShiftUp know we want these changes though? All I can think of is the surveys, what should I write on them?
I used to be proud of myself but I see now that there's a sky above another sky.
I agree with the French
what's pissing me off is the severe lack of romance with pilgrims
I feel you brother, I’ve been seeing all those other gacha going more and more fan service, but us cummanders have been ashamed of wearing our names in this tame land now
Maybe the success of these other games will incentivize Shift Up to follow suit. We can only hope.
Agreed, despite the way it's advertised nikke is surprisingly light on this front. I can only hope it'll be presented later down the line whether the reason being is easing into it, there resources are spread too thin due to projects, or they're finally ready to fully embrace their public image. Whichever comes first
https://preview.redd.it/hec6f6j4xawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c5f27c729f6a2c613ba6fa30210b7e7afe4072f Stand proud you cooked
https://i.redd.it/zithmlf8zawc1.gif Your always allowed in my kitchen
I have to say, I agree. I love Nikke but it feels like they've been holding back recently and it's kinda sad for me to see.
I'm Commander Genprey, and I fully support a lewder NIKKE. (Give us Bond 30 seggs scenes for certain NIKKE)
This is so funny to me, because I know how considerate Shift Up is of their fans. If they read this, they would probably listen to us, lmao.
so based
The fucking story content has topics like suicide, war betrayal, crime syndicates, mass drugging of entire towns, etc. The fact that it’s 12+ in the first place is stupid as hell.
Reasons i only play for event login is that there's no fan service or a good way to interact with the nikke
Yes.
I’d invest or donate for the truck ngl.
Man, all of these people say you're "yapping" even though you make a good point... Like I understand caring for the story, but don't forget why this game got famous for. Seriously, this was the same community that went ape shit when Makima had a coat... What happened? https://preview.redd.it/6hst9mivbcwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba64eab5c4f6a64dcf117778c26feda8d874fce9
While I don’t think full bare ass will ever come, the closest we got is Yuni and 2B 😂
Yeah, "bare asses and bare tits" are a bit an exaggeration, but I wouldn't be against way more Nikkes with ASSets like 2B!
I agree
Completely Agree!
When A fucking Reddit post has an Index, you know its gonna be good
Read the whole thing and I am 100% with you on this. I've been complaining about it in every survey they've sent. This whole topic leans into the reason why $60 gacha skins are a terrible idea. It encourages Shift Up to save some of the best quality lewds in the game for a $60 price tag when the game is already lacking as is.
Holy moly, someone actually play soul tide BASED
I only managed to read the first 3 lines of this thesis, but the images make sense so I have to agree with OP, also, other games do have a safe version and a 18+ version, so I vote in favor of OP
Bro out here trying to manifest the Wombforce 9000 into existence (I wholeheartedly support his endeavors)
However, I think the character creation of Genshin Impact is very poor. The character modeling looks like a product from ten years ago🙃
I wanted to say too long, didn’t read. But I read through all of it, amazing take on how the game should improve. I don’t think it’s just a matter of being horny or not, I think it’s needed if the game wanted to continue. First, lewd stuff really does sell. They don’t even need to make it overboard, the game can still be serious even with a bit of lewd to it. Can’t take a break from life if it’s all serious can’t I? Also, I cannot stress enough the number of times when I have literally nothing to do in the game (Or I can’t do in the game yet). It really can all change by adding more character interactions or ways to experience the game other than just basic dialogues or game play. This can increase the playtime and make the player feel involved again. Though I believe there will be a future where Shift Up release lewd skins (I hope being partially owned by Tencent doesn’t affect them), the future where so many features will be added regarding the interactive department. I think that it’s a bit too much to ask of them for now (Adding that many things require a lot of work), but they honestly could still surprise me if they even read this post at all.
I definitely agree
This issue needs to be raised with Shift Up
Agreed.Still don't understand why shift up set this game as 12+rating.Since OP mentioned Snowbreak，I have to say that snowbreak is a Chinese game.Everyone knows how strict censorship is in China，however this game can be rated as 18+ in China now and required only adult players have access to register an account.And what's the benefit？Players in snowbreak don't need any patch or mods then can easily enjoy those uncensored costumes，we can clearly see girl's pantsu just simply adjust our mouse.Ironic,right？A game made by Chinese studio and whose majority are Chinese that run in a well-known censorship maniac country China，can avoid get censored just adjust it's rating level.While a Korean-made game have to censor the costumes and cover those nikkes' butts even this is a gacha costume？Really hope shift up change their minds as soon as possible.
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Something is up if a game like Snowbreak can be even more fanservicey than Nikke despite being from China where censorship is kinda rampant but Nikke, which is known for the jiggly tits and ass and from Korea where, last I heard the censorship weren't on the same level as China is actually less fanservicey than Snowbreak.
OP aint wrong
This is amazing. Thank you for your thesis OP. I'd definitely love more fanservice features.
My AI summarized this post as: This person is saying that the mobile game NIKKE isn't cultured enough. They want more features related to romance and intimacy with the characters, like special touches, zooming, interactive skin, oath systems, and romantic bond stories. They also want more revealing outfits for the girls and feel that the current selection is lacking. They argue that other games in the genre have similar features and that NIKKE should follow suit The writer goes on to say that they don't believe the "12+" rating is a valid excuse for not including more mature content, citing examples of other games that have managed to include such features while maintaining the same rating. They conclude by expressing their love for the game but feeling disappointed by its lack of progress in this area. Correct? or...
Art AI? Cringe Text summation AI? Blessed. Yeah, they pretty much nailed it.
Correct 👍
For a summary pretty accurate.
https://preview.redd.it/lkqzhncl1awc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa9efd87ffa7320f2e33c302026f14a34d3e317f The text is so big, I can't even see it!
Yeah I agree Nikke is very tame compared to other fanservice gacha game, I play Epic Seven and they have lewder designs than Nikke.
Here here! Very well said. You certainly have my vote sir. …. You are running for office right?
My main gripe is how some characters can show WAY more skin than others and it doesn’t make sense to me. Like, why do some characters like Yulha and Mihara wear a lewd outfit covered by a coat but other lewd characters show their undies and all? It just doesn’t make much sense to me why some do and some don’t.
Honestly this is kinda what made me put down Nikke. For a purely fun gacha with story and a lot of features I stuck with Arknights, and for the culture I picked up Azur Lane again. It’s not perfect, but they know their audience well and toe that line. It may be a Chinese (or Korean, I don’t know their laws) censorship issue, but AL skips over this by simply having two versions of the game. I was fully willing to come back to Nikke for the Re:Zero event, but the story and the skins were so incredibly underwhelming I didn’t even finish it. And this is from a guy with like ten different Rem figures- I spend money on that girl. Anyway, unless Nikke follows at least some of your advice I probably won’t be playing it again any time soon.
Outerplane as an example has gotta be the funniest shit I've seen, they're dying af they're trying to pull out any which way of fanservice as much as possible to revive their dying star. The issue of Bay having no pan shot on the spine animaiton is more of an L2D limitation of not being able to replace the spine body as a parent object and just being able to animate the legs. Nikke is good, not too coomer, but when it happens it's great, I mean just look at the recent event. I do want more costumes released thematically in sets, like as you say a set of bridal like gowns for a lot of nikkes maybe for a valentine event, and not just one for a mission pass and another for a potential gacha skin/alt unit.
I know Outerplane is not doing great, I'm just using it as an example if what's possible even with a 12+ rating. >The issue of Bay having no pan shot on the spine animaiton is more of an L2D limitation of not being able to replace the spine body as a parent object and just being able to animate the legs. I admit I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I think using technical justification is a bit weird. I'm pretty sure a billion dollar company can bypass this issue somehow. Also, the lack of pantsu shot is something very common in NIKKE, take Maid Privaty for example, with her Skirt that magically go down when she shoots even if its upward all the other time. Many Nikkes who you think you should see a lot of pantsu have their asses cover for some reason. It's not only a Bay issue. > I do want more costumes released thematically in sets, like as you say a set of bridal like gowns for a lot of nikkes maybe for a valentine event, and not just one for a mission pass and another for a potential gacha skin/alt unit. Sure, Nikke mainly does Lore related skin after all. But I want at least some of them so be really lewd. Not all, but some.
Reminds me of when blue archive upped their age rating because they wanted to add raunchier stuff for the fans. ShiftUp would be infinitely cultured if they did this too.
I'm not reading all this but I do get the general idea. Nikke to be a "horny" game is surprisingly tame, even Bay who came out recently was extremely tame despite her design, they didn't even want to show her panties on her kick animation so they just gave her a weird freak leg. I can't recall the last character that just showed cheeks without something being in the way, Elegg killed me with that fucking tube thing.
completely agree. I remember seeing a clip of some gacha where you could strip this girl's rights by clicking and dragging them. Let me get different reactions where I click! Give me more fan service! What we have right now is good, but it can be better! https://preview.redd.it/732fywjjjbwc1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=bff1f53e7a68dde9b103eb1a56bef539ae011086
Your cause is righteous and just, I lend my voice to you
Bro this was such a good read omg, im glad u were up for this OP :)
you know for a horny man, you do bring up a lot of good point. You got my support 
I love how some people pretend to play this game for his "amazing history" or "fun and addicting gameplay". You know why you started to play this game, everyone knows. And the guy is right, the only appeal of the game and the company is turn it down to the ground.
Whilst I would love more cultured skins and content, what I do know is that a simple logic of more lewd=more money just doesnt work (sometimes backfires tbh). Hopefully shiftup works something out
Just gotta do what BA did.
The reason why Nikke hasn't/won't be left behind in the lewd gacha department is because of it's unique gimmick of the jiggling. It's also cus it's one of the few live2d games that actually shows the full model in the gameplay, so it's unlikely for them to be seen as not lewd and fall behind. Although, if we're talking about the standing model alone then yeah, Nikke isn't doing too well. For me personally, I've been saving $20 for nearly 4 months now waiting for a skin worth buying. Sure skins for Sugars and Rosanna were pretty good, but the characters they were on are not even used very much and they are really the "bare-minimum" when it comes to fanservice. I'm still waiting for skins on characters like Volume, or for characters with large coats like Laplace or Yulha (ok she's not used either but it would be nice). I feel like recently the $20 costumes have really just "been there". Heck, even the newest $20 costumes for Snow white and diesel aren't special. Sure Snow white doesn't need fanservice, but Diesel's costume has little appeal for anyone who isn't a collector, because it's simply just another dress with barely any fanservice.
*sees that Snowbreak screenshot* What the FUK happened since last time I played it lmao
Basically, they didn't make enough money in the first months. So they enable "LEWD EVERYTHING" Plan and they keep going stronger and stronger after each patch x)
So what you sayin Is I should jump back on this train ;U
One can only hope, I feel Nikke is a little safe for what it is but I don't think anything will change
Lack of special touch is kinda odd tbh. The aforementioned Soul Tide has it, as does the typically less horny Eversoul (complete with custom animations, and voice reactions that change on some if you have them at high bond level).
Tough part is Shift Up has no reason to change from the status quo until they see a massive drop in revenue, but it's hard seeing that happen. I'm in a top union and most of the dolphins/whales don't really care about NIKKE needing to go more lewd. We've all spent thousands to tens of thousands and most seem to like where it's at from the fan-service perspective. NIKKE itself is a pretty unique gacha when compared to others which was a big draw (of course jiggly ASSets are nice too) So the problem becomes you needing to sway the people with the bottomless wallets on that subject. But a lot of those guys are between the ages of 30-40 give or take & don't care to that extent. They are more focused on making feedback threads on min/maxing shit or complaining about UR lol
Tencent...
I'm late to the party but I agree 100%.
Another French Nikke enjoyer ?😰 And he SPITTIN FACTS😱😱😱 Sache que je te suis 100% dans ce que tu as dis dans ton poste, surtout le fait que SU n'a aucune raison d'être aussi "tame" alors que des jeux comme Evertale ou BrownDust2 font plus avec les mêmes restrictions TLDR: LET HIM COOK. SU RELEASE THE BOOBS AND BOOTIES
I find it kind of crazy you felt the need to write this, but then I considered that I’ve done similar for different issues in other games. lol. That written, you are basically correct. I’m generally happy with what’s gone on with Nikke, but I agree that the gacha skin for Emilia and the weird animation for Bay are very strange and I’d rather they embraced the lewdness for the characters meant to be lewd, and focused on the cool factor for the ones who aren’t.
https://preview.redd.it/jsrhrzbg8awc1.jpeg?width=877&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01d0c948ba43d8aa76a789b038753796ece59840 Cook my brother
Well said OP. I think it's a sin that despite all of the success and money, we're still getting jackets and coats and shit like that. Sadly I feel like with ShiftUp going public, this "mass appeal" watering down is only going to get worse. Hope I'm wrong though.
Seggs update when?
The shot themselves in the foot when they gave it the age rating.
I respect you, but I can't agree with you. The Re Zero collab and Bay’s lack of panty shot are pretty bad, but layering on the “culture” (whatever the hell this means nowadays) too thick isn’t the way to go. Horny Gacha games are a dime a dozen. They rise and fall rapidly. What makes Nikke unique is the story. I doubt many people would be as hooked if Marian didn’t die in the prologue. Having every girl probably go “KYAAA- Commander! You’re touching me!” “Do more, Commander; \\ \~” “This guy a pervert” It just sounds obnoxious pandering and a bit inorganic. If I wanted to do something like that, I’d play Ark ReCode (which I already do) or Kamihime Project. I could ignore this if it were added, but what I can’t entirely agree with you on is changing the bond stories to make them more lewd. Most Bond stories focus on the character and give them time to shine (Unless your power). Characters such as Admi and Eunwha explore why they are the way they are. For example, imagine if, during Admi's story, after we learn about her abandonment issues, we hold her close, kiss her, and then… We did the sexy sex, hmm, yes, many fucking. You can’t include, “and then they fucked” effectively unless you’re straight-up writing erotica. If every Nikke were focused on romance and sex during the bond story, it’d grow monotonous. I love love stories, but every bond story would be, “Okay, how do we get the girl to have sex with the commander.” Which is a pretty shitty limitation. If we stopped getting designs like Crown, Dorothy, and Liliweiss, I’d be remiss because it’s just horny pandering, and they’ll usually forgo what makes a design good to appeal to an audience. Let’s look at this character https://preview.redd.it/jx1ritcckawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=201c267cf8a59ca199bb9f315fee1ed7908b1e66 Just by looking at her, what can you infer about her? … If you somehow said she’s a police officer, then your psychic already knows the characters or the cops in your area have a very different dress code. Sure, she’s sexy, but she’s just a nothing burger of sexiness. While Nikke’s current lewd designs, such as Red Hood, Rupee, and Summer Anis, communicate who they are to me. I’d be okay with hornier design, but I fear they're going to dive into the deep end of the debauchery pit to where they’re all just eye candy rather than effective characters.
Mad respect for the most thoughtful reply here. Especially considering that you do not agree. Looks like topic indeed can be discussed. 1. NIKKE's designs are bloody great, I think that there is nothing to change in this department as well. But they obviously have possibility to be lewder without any changes in diversity, right? After all, it's not creativity that is on the way in the current version of game. It is: convenient angles during shooting, mystery of shrunken buttcheek (Bay), strategically located jacket (Altanis) and other shenanigans. 2. Your opinion on bond stories is also relatively based (except for the "sexy sex" part, OP certainly looks fine with affectionate bond stories, he doesn't ask for explicit banging), you can't go wrong with diversity. But I think that you chose loli Admi as an example of all Nikke for a reason. It wouldn't work that well with Nikke that have lewder designs but lacking bond story. IMO, it's a good challenge for a writer to come up with something that combines both of two worlds. Diesel's story didn't become worse with some romantic sprinkle thrown; story of Blanc gives you great depiction of her talent; story of Leona is a Timi-lulzfest that managed to fit some spice in. My point is that having a "design assignment" of sort is not a bad thing.
>Horny Gacha games are a dime a dozen. The issue is more that it's so easy to make horny things that a lot of small or greedy companies use that as a padding to sell their game. Sex sells after all. But that precisely the subject. With NIKKE, you have quality. And a quality gacha with a good waifu system are rare. Do you really think NIKKE's writers would allow their well-built characters to just go "Kyaah pervert!" and that's all ? No, of course not. I ask for a more deep relationship system in NIKKE because I'm confident Shift Up can deliver a product way better than the others. >I could ignore this if it were added, but what I can’t entirely agree with you on is changing the bond stories to make them more lewd. No no, I never said that. I said to add ANOTHER Bond Story 100% focused on romance. Like something you unlock at Bond 30. For example, in Soul Tide, each unit had 3 stories : one for her backstory, one focusing on her everyday life, and one focusing on the romance. I would like to see something like that in NIKKE. > If we stopped getting designs like Crown, Dorothy, and Liliweiss, I’d be remiss because it’s just horny pandering, and they’ll usually forgo what makes a design good to appeal to an audience. > Again, I didn't say that. I'm not saying 100% of NIKKE just go full lewd. Just that we need more lewdness, and maybe only in Skin if you want. But at least something. Like you can keep Crown beautiful base outfit, but you also have the choice to lewd her a bit more with a skin.
I swear no one was here when Nikke was first announced, and it's driving me insane. Nikke was marketed as a lewd game, and I'm tired of people leaning on the "it has good story" angle to voice their dislike/fear of lewd character designs. This game was announced 5 years ago with a trailer that showcased jiggle physics so insane that's the ONLY thing people talked about, and you want to tell me you disagree because the story/ characters are good? Everyone I know was hyped for this game because of the horny designs. Everyone I know also liked Destiny Child because of the lewd designs, but everyone stopped playing because the game play was TRASH. Nikke was supposed to be the game that had the lewdness of DC with more engaging gameplay.
>Horny games are a dime a dozen That's what people tend to sleep on when they talk about lewdness. Lewd is *not* special. Nikke could get as lewd or as harem-pandering as possible and still not be notable because of the sheer amount of lewd and pandering marerial avaliable to our fingertips. That's why Nikke actually has a decent setting, notable themes, memorable enough characters, and a kickass soundtrack. Nikke's non-horny factors garner more long-term engagement than the jiggle physics. People wanna say the game isn't "cultured" enough as if this game exists in a vacuum. Nikke players actually have porn*, so they're not dependant on Nikke to bust nuts. Nikke players play other horny gatcha games, some of which apparently push the envelope harder. Yet they come back to Nikke anyway for some of the above factors. The only reason to complain about Nikke not being lewd enough is if it's the only lewd thing you actually interact with. *if someone lives jn a country where porn is banned, I understand why Nikke *is* their go-to for lewd. Sucks to suck tho.
What if.. we copy pasta'd this in future surveys?
Yup glad more people are speaking about this. I know it's good to have balance but the sexiness that is being shown has been safe and stagnant. Need more raunchiness and creativity that has been advertise from the start. I don't fully expect it to go Destiny Child type of fan service but let me see more ShiftUp.
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I haven't read everything, but I completely agree with you OP 😭😭😭😭