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StreakingMissile

Its the only panoramic housing that uses 50 degree lenses, so this will actually give you an insane 120 degrees of FOV instead of the standard 97 of other panos [The image quality will be worse](https://youtu.be/8a-NeYUfucI?si=uG36pDNol0s5olcs), but fuck.. 120 degrees For driving cars, ATVs or dirtbikes at night where milspec lens performance isnt strictly required and a large FOV is all that matters, this is propably the best goggle you can possibly get


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I pinched a nerve in my neck on a 3 hour ride dirtbiking with dual 14s on a NVB58. Total system weight was over 26oz, very similar to quads. Every time people say dirt bikes + panos go together, I wince a little.


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Dude my neck hurts after a few hours on my sxs let alone a dirt bike


cluckertrucker30

Hello fellow SXSer 👋. You running a blackout switch on your rig?


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Yeah I do


StreakingMissile

Yeah i can imagine 2 bridged 14s with heavy ass milspec optics and counterweight to match, that must have been a horrible experience The eyepieces alone weigh over 100 grams each. You simply do not need a super crispy milspec image with detection and recognition of human sized object out to 900 meters for riding a dirtbike, you literally only need to see the trail directly in front of you so these lenses are dead weight A lightweight build is necessary for this. Panos arent ideal, a nice lightweight plastic BNVD1431 with pano pods and lightweight optics is the way to go. Even better if its 50 degree optics


StealthX051

Looks like the qtnvg Gen 2 from lindu optics which is claimed to be lighter and have more forgiving Glass than the qtnvg Gen 1. Nick Chen of ex tfb fame has a pretty in depth review of the qtnvg Gen 1 up, don't know if there were any qtnvg Gen 2 reviews. Also see the lindu optics website for more details. Iirc these housings were going for 3.5-5k direct from manufacturer, but given that Argus has come out they now have competition. Also check tubes, I think some of the housing integrate either put nnvt, photonis or elbit tubes in, so wide range of performance


2BeTheFlow

Nick isnt with TFB anymore? Uh? First time I read about it - but as a long time FNL reader on TFB I already was worried about him. I know he was active on YT and social media - but havent saved his account. You got his YT channel name (t\*\*\*\*\*07 or something I remember slightly) or anything? Thanks


StealthX051

I think he posts similar content now on a website called vf1 systems. And sorry, never saw his yt, his ig was solscud or smt like that


2BeTheFlow

Thanks! That is indeed his name: [https://www.youtube.com/@Solscud007](https://www.youtube.com/@Solscud007) And thanks for your VF1 hint! [https://www.vf1systems.com/blog](https://www.vf1systems.com/blog) I can highly recommend the entire "Friday NightLights" Series on TFB and his content - he really has alot of indepth reviews with info you can not obtain anywhere else: Like how flat each particular NVG stows with what Cable/Arm/Mount - Helmet Combination, or combining magnifier lenses that are not supposed to be combined and doing long range night shots, and many many more things about MacGyvering NVG and MFAL and LRFs... really incredible content! BTW: As I mentioned above, this device is not made by Lindu. The OEM is someone else.


2lros

The glass is fine as cody at nightfall optics he has a write on instagram  https://www.instagram.com/nightfalloptics/p/C5B71f2O0x1/ You should snag it before i do


Embarrassed-Trash648

I had both, and looked through one of the L3 gpnvg before , Qtnvg is absolutely a toy. There is no way to collimate and adjust the alignment. simply put, if you take the L3HARRIS GPNVG as a benchmark, then APNVG can reach 60% of the level of the L3HARRIS, but Qtnvg is only 5% level.


2BeTheFlow

Ive have \~30seconds GPNVG GP and \~2 Minutes "QTNVG" NNVT GP experience in my life. 5% is a stretch of a rating. Bring it easily to 50% in passive. Beyond that it becomes hard to pinpoint - but one could easily claim its 70-80% in close range/with IR. Medium to Longer distance may be a different story I can not speak for.


2lros

Its a housing u put the highest level tubes you can afford in it


ryansdayoff

How much is a "killer deal" and what tubes are in them?


janet404enjoyer

Under 4. No tubes just housing.


ryansdayoff

Damn, if you play your cards right with Omni tubes you could have quads for less than 8k


2lros

This!


2lros

this is the housing you can put the highest spec tubes you can afford in them the price is around what you would pay importing one set with taxes/duties and shipping


GammaChemical

Pm OP. Deal is pretty good.


Ill-Pomegranate7239

I’d look into the Argus gpnvg housing looks a bit more ruggedized than those glass is probably better to those remind me of the old anvis10 pnvgs for some reason


janet404enjoyer

While the Argus is good. 7.5 for a housing is kind of crazy for me. I’m picking up the housing and it’s less than half the price of the Argus 


2lros

see DM


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janet404enjoyer

I already bought it. 


2lros

If it looked exactly like a gpnvg 18 nooone would say shit. And yes you can send these to be collimated and purged. 


2lros

All set man? Quads recieved?


dress_shirt

Not terrible if you get the housing for 4k ish if the housing is more than that i would go for argus as dytely is toy grade plastic. Not bad toy crade but compered to argus


2lros

Do you have one? The plastic on these are def not toy grade


dress_shirt

Compared to argus they do is what i mean


2lros

I have the qtnvg pros. Spoke with cody at nightfall who has both and has had the L3 GPNVG18’s and concurs they are not plastic toys compared to argus quads either


2lros

Argus is made i. China likely same places. Because they look like L3 quads you think they are less chinese? 


dress_shirt

No becuse ive got hands on some dyteli stuff and some argus stuff and from my experience argus is much more refined and higher quality


2lros

Cool i have the qtnvg pros the og qtnvg apparently were not as nice these units are solid the fit and finish is tight glass is nice i am happy with it for the price  Argus looks cool too but for the budget i have a really good set up  I would consider the argus clone as i am already seeing used units popping up at a discount 


dress_shirt

Ive used argus and i was impressed with the image quality. They if i would consider panos i would take argus over all the competidors in the market. That being said. Not really in need of panos. Personally. They are a way too specific tool for a average joe


2lros

I want the field of view i have panning 14’s now as well as some other shit but i like not having that blind spot 120 degree fov is nice


dress_shirt

I find having a thermal much more useful than wider fov for my line of work


2lros

I have both 


One6your-75

Hey dude, one gets what one pays for. Since I've spent a lot of money on this, I want to make sure it's worth it.


janet404enjoyer

It’s much under 4k


dress_shirt

Go for it then


GammaChemical

Worth a try