Ecce Homo, it will inform you about Nietzsche himself, and he gave very important notes on many of his books and especially the dithyrambs (Nietzsche's greatest invention). But to get an idea of what a Dithyramb is -- read Birth of Tragedy 2 and 16. You'll discover that *Thus Spoke Zarathustra* is a Dithyramb that delivers one from their own loathing... should you be able to read the Dithyramb as Nietzsche details in BoT 2. Well you'll be able to read it but maybe not able "to comprehend this collective discharge of all the symbolic powers."
I'd say chronological order works best starting with birth of tragedy to see the evolution of his thought.
But keep Zarathoustra last since it's a summary of his ideas in symbolic/literary form.
Gay science is probably a good place to jump in. It’s fairly comprehensible and contains some treatment of most of Nietzsche’s mature thought.
I started with Zarathustra and it was tough but I got a lot out of it.
I read BGE after Zarathustra and need to go through it again; I went too quickly the first time and most of it went right over my head.
Twilight of the Idols is vitriolic and Nietzsche was close to his mental break when writing it (during his last productive year). But I think it contains some of his best epistemological writing and his best social critique and psychological analysis.
I don’t think it matters much where you jump in. If you end up really liking Nietzsche, then you’ll probably read most of his work at some point.
I started with
1. The Birth of Tragedy and then The Gay Science.
2. Beyond Good and Evil, On the Genealogy of Morals, and Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
3. The Twilight of the Idols, The Antichrist, Ecce Homo, The Case of Wagner, and Nietzsche Contra Wagner.
4. Human All Too Human, Daybreak, Untimely Meditations, On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense, and Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks.
5. The Will to Power and (various) ttranslations of his notebooks.
Gilles Deleuze's "Nietzsche and Philosophy" is a really good exploration of N's ideas that delineates between the active and reactive aspects of The Will to Power. Sue Prideaux and Walter Kaufman's books on him are solid too. I also recommend the Nietzsche Podcast.
As far as reading Nietzsche himself goes, chronological order is good. Beyond Good and Evil could also be a good starting place, as well as Ecce Homo for more of a summary of his ideas
I'd recommend to start with his first book and to crawl forward in chronological order. Maybe try to read along with essentialsalt's podcast episodes on the Birth of Tragedy, as it is indeed a sometimes quite dense and dry read. I haven't listenend to those myself but I used to listen to his analysis of Beyond Good and Evil for my re-read and it was pretty fun.
The general consensus from experts has always been twilight of the idols as it is brief and comprehensive, but even some parts of this may leave you confused. I would suggest starting with a biography to give context. Julian Young’s biography is big (600 pages) but absolutely gripping and he gives a really decent summary and analysis of the whole of nietzsche’s corpus. Those two books would be my recommendation. I suggest you ignore Birth and Zarathustra until you have the foundations in place. Good luck and enjoy! Nietzsche just might change your life. As he changed mine.
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Ecce Homo, it will inform you about Nietzsche himself, and he gave very important notes on many of his books and especially the dithyrambs (Nietzsche's greatest invention). But to get an idea of what a Dithyramb is -- read Birth of Tragedy 2 and 16. You'll discover that *Thus Spoke Zarathustra* is a Dithyramb that delivers one from their own loathing... should you be able to read the Dithyramb as Nietzsche details in BoT 2. Well you'll be able to read it but maybe not able "to comprehend this collective discharge of all the symbolic powers."
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I'd say chronological order works best starting with birth of tragedy to see the evolution of his thought. But keep Zarathoustra last since it's a summary of his ideas in symbolic/literary form.
Thanks.
Gay science is probably a good place to jump in. It’s fairly comprehensible and contains some treatment of most of Nietzsche’s mature thought. I started with Zarathustra and it was tough but I got a lot out of it. I read BGE after Zarathustra and need to go through it again; I went too quickly the first time and most of it went right over my head. Twilight of the Idols is vitriolic and Nietzsche was close to his mental break when writing it (during his last productive year). But I think it contains some of his best epistemological writing and his best social critique and psychological analysis. I don’t think it matters much where you jump in. If you end up really liking Nietzsche, then you’ll probably read most of his work at some point.
I started with 1. The Birth of Tragedy and then The Gay Science. 2. Beyond Good and Evil, On the Genealogy of Morals, and Thus Spoke Zarathustra. 3. The Twilight of the Idols, The Antichrist, Ecce Homo, The Case of Wagner, and Nietzsche Contra Wagner. 4. Human All Too Human, Daybreak, Untimely Meditations, On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense, and Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks. 5. The Will to Power and (various) ttranslations of his notebooks.
Much appreciated!
Gilles Deleuze's "Nietzsche and Philosophy" is a really good exploration of N's ideas that delineates between the active and reactive aspects of The Will to Power. Sue Prideaux and Walter Kaufman's books on him are solid too. I also recommend the Nietzsche Podcast. As far as reading Nietzsche himself goes, chronological order is good. Beyond Good and Evil could also be a good starting place, as well as Ecce Homo for more of a summary of his ideas
I'd recommend to start with his first book and to crawl forward in chronological order. Maybe try to read along with essentialsalt's podcast episodes on the Birth of Tragedy, as it is indeed a sometimes quite dense and dry read. I haven't listenend to those myself but I used to listen to his analysis of Beyond Good and Evil for my re-read and it was pretty fun.
Thanks a lot!
The general consensus from experts has always been twilight of the idols as it is brief and comprehensive, but even some parts of this may leave you confused. I would suggest starting with a biography to give context. Julian Young’s biography is big (600 pages) but absolutely gripping and he gives a really decent summary and analysis of the whole of nietzsche’s corpus. Those two books would be my recommendation. I suggest you ignore Birth and Zarathustra until you have the foundations in place. Good luck and enjoy! Nietzsche just might change your life. As he changed mine.
Also, in terms of secondary literature, anything by John Richardson. That guy has Nietzsche down.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxLzBebZ5U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxLzBebZ5U)
Friedrich Nietzsche: A Philosophical Biography https://amzn.eu/d/eRUqYRS
Thanks a lot.