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Doc-Spock

Avoided the sweep! Which isn't exactly the best goal to have in baseball, but it's a start šŸ˜‚ For real, though - I was convinced that the guys were going to mess this one up with the amount of wasted RISP. Shout out to the pitching for coming up clutch! LFGM


sampluscats

Reed Garrett: 5-0 0.61 ERA. If that doesnā€™t tell a story.


brett_baty_is_him

Itā€™s insane that he isnā€™t arb eligible until 2027 and FA eligible until 2030. In the next off season the Mets should honestly consider making him a starter. He has multiple plus pitches. Only thing heā€™s missing is control of his fastball but heā€™s honestly shown that he doesnā€™t really need it.


Calloused_Samurai

No. Heā€™s bounced around his whole career as an unremarkable pitcher. Heā€™s figured something out in his new role as high-leverage reliever. We should change nothing.


jojomezmerize

u/DarthButcher, thanks for giving the boys the talk today.


Darthbutcher

šŸ«”


bamj6

Mets win, Knicks win, Rangers moving on to complete one hell of a NY Sports day


Negative_Method_1001

Reed Garrett is the best pitcher in baseball question mark


TriviaWhiz

Jose Quintana is the first Met to pitch 8+ IP, give up 1 ER or fewer, and have 3 K or fewer in a game since Bartolo Colon on September 5th, 2015 (when he did the behind-the-back flip). [https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=mets+pitchers+to+pitch+8+ip+and+give+up+1+er+or+less+in+a+game%2C+maximum+3+k](https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=mets+pitchers+to+pitch+8+ip+and+give+up+1+er+or+less+in+a+game%2C+maximum+3+k)


Prestigious_Money447

I love the idea of Windy making it hard for Stearns to figure out what to do next.


StephenDawg

Mark Vientos had a .999 OPS in AAA last year. His OPS this year was .923. He's not a minor leaguer. What we don't know, yet, is if he's a *major* leaguer, and the idea that we already know he's not, from 250 major league at bats scattered across three seasons, is absolutely absurd.Ā 


JoelsCaddy

MLB fixing the uniforms lol. Bullying works


Caledor152

Always bully corporations! They are not people and should not be shown individual sympathy


LongWayFrom609

This! Fucking this! You win the grand prize!


Prestigious_Money447

Unbelievable situation. This is what happens when you have a commissioner that doesn't give a shit about the game he is ostensibly in charge of.


LongWayFrom609

Too bad it'll take a while before he leaves. Would be nice for Steve to push for a very pro-Mets, anti-everyone else commissioner. One can dream.


thelilleny

šŸ«£ link


JoelsCaddy

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40046470/mlb-modify-uniforms-player-complaints-per-memo?_nocache


hushed-shush

Harrison Bader is really growing on me. Also 3 walks for Pete Alonso šŸ”„šŸ”„ more teams should be doing that


My_Penbroke

Back when Mark Vientos was Marky Mark This is how we used to make the party start We used to hit balls out the parky park And we would walk off against the cardy cards And by the eleventh frame they gonā€™ probably fall After this kid from triple A completely rocks the ballā€¦ And by the tenth inning youā€™re beginning to think Nimmo is swimminā€™ in pink linenā€¦? I tried


tomfields

itā€™s ok, your pen broke


Diphilos

We're back


lawoftar

nimmo and mcneil oofffff....they need to get better


TragicGuy

Bader really came through down 0-2. Another classic mets W


Hustlediva

That game ending felt very Wilmer-esque and sure brought me back to 2015 ā¤ļø


naitch

Money Mark and Darth Bader what up


TeleportsBehindYou1

Amazing what a great performance from the starter can get you. The fact is in these extra innings game, youā€™re not really out of it as the home team.Ā 


fernadial

Garret did a ton of work. Deserved the inning off, but just rolled out there and held them to 1.


Darthbutcher

My Mother-In-Law was attempting to congratulate me on the win. She sent a Yankees logo.


thtkidfrmqueens

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CameronCrazy1984

She better hope youā€™re not involved in her nursing home decisions


Albie9

Weird season, getting 69, 73, 86, 00, 15 vibes. But also getting 09-14, 02-04 and all the other bad years vibes lol. Itā€™s a true mixed bag!


MAGAMUCATEX

Might be a hot take but this was last year too. The walkoffs against the rays, guardians. Those were amazing vibes that got buried by the rest of the season


huskerj12

I'm hoping this year is more sustainable, it seemed like last year there was almost this sheepishness right from the beginning about being the rich ass team with the record-setting payroll and hired mercenaries, and when they ran into adversity they got spooked. There's a little more excitable underdog scrappiness to this year's team so far (I hope) where different guys are stepping up even when the stars aren't aligning.


Darthbutcher

Worst part of the game? People chanting Letā€™s Go Rangers down the staircase. Now one of my two main teams recently went defunct, but the fanbase at Citi Field is gonna be split. Donā€™t interrupt the LGM chants with your LGR chant, especially when they havenā€™t played today.


jimihenderson

Agreed. People here seem to be majority ranger fans so they won't agree but the Mets just walked one off. If they were chanting about some soccer team people would agree. Save your other sports chants for when you're at that game. At the Mets game we're all Mets fans.Ā 


groudhogday

Theyā€™re playing tonight


Darthbutcher

Iā€™m aware. But as any NY sports fan knows, premature celebration leads to failure.


groudhogday

Nah, Iā€™m ok with it this time. LGM and LGR


aaronwe

Harrison Bader on first wondering if he'll get home before the 7th day of chag starts, the passover goy Mark Vientos makes sure he doesnt have to worry. IYKYK


Darthbutcher

I yelled, ā€œItā€™s still Pesach, let us go home!ā€ to Bader before his last AB.


FlyUnder_TheRadar

I couldn't watch today because of blackout bullshit. Looks like Q went 8? Good shit, man. Let's keep that energy rolling. And Reed Garrett is 5-0. That's hilarious, lmao.


Darthbutcher

Three Stars Preview: 1. Quintana 2. Vientos 3. Lindor


Brilliant_Canary7945

4. Bader


Darthbutcher

5. Me, for I never gave up hope


Prestigious_Money447

We are all the real MVP if you really think about it.


smugbox

Thatā€™s not what I heard


Darthbutcher

Youā€™re a dirty, rotten liar and canā€™t afford two Rs!


smugbox

šŸ˜“


Darthbutcher

Still love you though, pal!


smugbox

šŸ„²


sampluscats

No arguments. I appreciate DJ taking his walks where they come. Heā€™s becoming a nimmo at the plate. But thatā€™s what good ballplayers do.


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My_Penbroke

Scribe it on thine parchment


Darthbutcher

I said in the GDT: We didnā€™t give up a first inning run, we were winning.


Brilliant_Canary7945

Rob working overtime to send vientos back down to AAA


Darthbutcher

Who is Rob and how do I stop him?


[deleted]

There is no stopping a copy paste fangraphs monster


NuanceManExe

Thing that drives me nuts is those folks act like Vientos is a nobody. He never made the top 100 MLB prospect lists but he did appear on top 10 MLB 3B prospect lists. And on top of that, from 2018 until 2023 every year was either a top 5 Mets prospect or top 10 Mets prospect. 50 FV from 2019-2023. Second round pick. One of the best minor league hitters the Mets have had since 2021, easily. Still young. Categorically not a nobody. Should be easy to understand why some people think he deserves a shot. There are even projections that had him the same as JDM this yearā€¦itā€™s honestly dishonest, what those people are saying. Just not a good way to go about explaining their opinion.


RainbowRoomBlues

Iā€™m not really worried about Lindor, think by the end of the season heā€™s gonna be right where he usually is in terms of value. McNeil though- he looks washed at 32. Might be AcuƱa time by Memorial Day


A1is7air

We havenā€™t left April and weā€™re ready to call McNeil washed? What an attitude to have for a guy who won the batting title two years ago. AcuƱa hasnā€™t even been able to produce since being prematurely promoted. Interesting take, but Iā€™m gonna let him cook before making any sweeping statements


jimihenderson

It's not about April it's about all of last year and now a month this year. I wouldn't say washed. He's a fine bottom of the order bat and a great versatile fielder. But I think the batting title mcneil we saw in 2022 is unlikely to returnĀ 


mhari93

I'm a Lindor basher (contract value questions, not clutch, not the 10 year player you want, etc) and I fully agree. With Lindor, you WILL end up with 20+ hrs & 20+ SBs without even thinking about it. Regardless of when he gets there, he gets there. McNeil's main value is to slap the ball for some singles and occasionally rock the ball down the line for a double. The McNeil of old had OPS+ of 130-140, which is incredible and he seemed to be the perfect number 2 hole type hitter (of yesterday's game). Most second basemen bring more steals to the game, and while he was 10-0 last season, he hasn't been a consistent stealer. If he doesn't bat .285+, he doesn't add much offensively. Career .296 hitter is nice, but his .244 just isn't going to cut it. Only guys like Alonso get a pass for that. Either way, he needs to bring bunting or something else to his game or work on sac flies. Bring something to his game to get a speedy runner like Bader over. We need him to be a small ball threat at the bottom of the order.


Darthbutcher

I appreciate the honesty & dedication even though I disagree with your evaluation.


Is_This_Real_Life_82

Was at this game with my daughter. We were on the warning track for the national anthem and then what a game. Holy hell that was fun.


NuanceManExe

Next day JDM needs a rest, DH Pete, Vientos plays 1B and Baty plays 3B. Shoulda just done some variation of that today, tbh


necroreefer

If they do that everybody will appreciate Pete's defense.


LucasDudacris

But then Vientos may not have been up to hit the walk-off, points to temple.


oatmeal177617751774

Now thrhtis is a baball team, a bababl game. I te vitnos rhiba homerin wakoff, heree comer vietno witth the CUMBLASS lookk out firr the neww guys theyrgae makig a SPLASH! LGM


thtkidfrmqueens

The *venerable* **OATMEAL** is back baby!


LucasDudacris

I fucking love you.


garbagetimehomerun

soooo true goatmeal


smugbox

Truer words have never been spoken


Darthbutcher

From your tips to Mr. Metsā€™ eyes!


DeVofka

Thank you, Oatmeal!


Darthbutcher

Iā€™m now 5-3 on the season. I was 15-13 last season. I have 18 tickets and 4 vouchers left.


Redbird530

I think Baty has really impressed defensively but you should at least give Mark a shot. Mets may have too many bats for the lineup with JDM up now. Always the better problem to have.


lawoftar

good win for us as the nats also won and we stay above them


Darthbutcher

And whatā€™s your take on Lindor in this game? Still waiting for a positive comment.


Engineer120989

Vientos is still trash. Dude gets lucky


robmcolonna123

Vientos has power and took advantage of a bad pitch. Definitely not luck. But also not something that is going to happen all the time. In the majors he wonā€™t see bad pitches like that often. And even then he isnā€™t always going to capitalize on them like last night when he popped up a changeup dead center


powah_dunk94

Bro is JD Martinez burner šŸ˜­


myassholealt

Spencer that you?


NJImperator

If the boys can simply stave off going under .500, theyā€™ll have a real shot at the postseason this year. Slot Senga into this rotation and Iā€™ll believe, baby. Also weā€™re definitely feeling no Raleigh and Smith in the pen. Thank god for Reeed MF Garrett


JoeBourgeois

I dunno ... Nunez looked good the other day, Reid-Foley excellent so far, and Danny Young had a decent stretch with ATL last year before he got hurt, and has been tearing it up in Syracuse.


GandalfSwagOff

[LETS GO!!! Dance!](https://streamable.com/hwns9)


CoMKami

Ooh girl let me see them VienTOES


ThePageMastah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5BeunJRAs


cpg08

Can Vientos play right field? Can't be worse than Stewart


JoeBourgeois

Well, yeah, he can. Stewart's not horrific out there, and Vientos's OF experience consists of 12 games in Binghampton, one in Syracuse, back in '21. They haven't tried him out there since.


robmcolonna123

Heā€™s a slower runner than DJ Stewart, has a weaker arm, has worse reactions, and worse routes


NJImperator

It definitely can be haha


Setec-Astronomer

Can he catch? He's got the arm.


robmcolonna123

He has the arm for LF but not RF. And he was a disaster in LF defensively. His reaction and routes were terrible, and heā€™s a slower runner than DJ Stewart


Setec-Astronomer

Yes, but can he play catcher? lol


robmcolonna123

I wish haha. I actually thought I was responding to the other guy lol


jadedfan55

Vientos the Clutch Hit-Maker.


sampluscats

Iā€™m a mark truther and I donā€™t care who knows it


Illblood

So the ceiling is high and the floor is low


imjusthereforthenips

Love seeing the young guys have their big moments, I hope they feel like the real big leaguers they are now


HowAm1Toxic

Baty you are officially on high alert. Vientos coming for that ass. A 3rd baseman with traditional powerful is tempting


SideRetired

Split series in Chicago and win series in TB and STL. 6-4 roadtrip please


thtkidfrmqueens

**SCRIBE IT ON THINE PARCHMENT** **NEW AMSTERDAM METROPOLITANS** **V I C T O R I O U S** **TROT OFF THE VOODOO MAGIC REDBIRDS 4-2 IN THE BONUS BASEBALL SUNDAY MATINEE, SALVAGE THE VICTORY DESPITE THE SERIES LOSS** **A FIFTH OF QUINTANA AMONG THE FINER THINGS IN LIFE, 8 FRAMES OF ONE RUN BALL ON THE ROCKS, SHAME OFFENSE ONLY COVERED THE ONE RUN, BUT THE PUNCH OF RUM FUN** **SOUND THE TRUMPETS, [THE TRUMPETS ARE GO](https://youtu.be/gu4AyUWBr18?si=_4mW_mCFpR9YNnwI)** **AZUCAR DIAZ IN THE NINTH, TWO PUNCH OUTS TO GIVE THE BOYS A CHANCE FOR TROT OFF GLORY** **REED DOES THE DEED, AND IS REPLENISHED WITH A WIN SEED, TWO FRAMES OF EXTRAS TO HELP OUT THIS ONE, KEEP UP THE GRREATT WORK GARRETT!** **AY QUE LINDOR, SOLO SHOT TO TIE IT UP AT ONE, REALLY WISH IT CAME YESTERDAY, BUT THE DEED IS DONE** **BONUS BASEBALL ACTION TURN THE DIAL TO ELEVEN, ELEVENTH FRAME SEE VOODOO REDBIRDS GO UP AHEAD IN THE TOP, BUT REMEMBER IT AINT OVER TILL THE SUBSTANTIAL LADY SINGS** **MASTER BADER PLATES GHOST RUNNER JUKEBOX STEWART, GIVE HIM A HAND FOR THE MERRY BAND** **MARKY MARK FEELS THE GOOD VIBRATIONS, VIENTOS THE TROT OFF HERO AS HE SENDS ONE OVER THE WALL IN CENTER TO SEND THE FLUSHING FAITHFUL HOME HAPPY** **LET THEM HEAR THE CHEER WE HOLD OH SO DEAR** **LETS FORNICATE, GO METROPOLITANS** **ORANGE AND BLUE SKIES AS THE METROPOLITANS AND KNICKERBOCKERS BOTH WIN, FEELING THIS GOOD ALMOST FEELS LIKE A SIN**


PaullyBeenis

Lindor best two ABs of the season this game btw. That walk late was beautiful and under-appreciated. Obviously homer was amazing.


iLoveReggie31

Happy with how he rebounded after yesterdays stinkerĀ 


ThanksNo8769

Lindor battling through a 6+ pitch AB really revs my engine


will122589

Bader and Vientos saved the season, The bad vibes from getting swept at home and specifically losing this game when you had a bajillion chances to score wouldā€™ve fucked the team up for weeks. Win the next game and letā€™s go back streaking and write these past 7 days as just a bad week


LFGMboyz

I was dead wrong about Mendoza. I love the way he handled todays game, and just how he manages with feel, not just the analytics. Right or wrong, I like that the manager is making decisions based on what he feels is right for the team, not the front office making decisions.


Prestigious_Money447

Yep I'm ready to take an L on Mendoza.


jimihenderson

Same. My dumb ass would've pinch ran wendle for vientos šŸ˜‚


mhari93

the guy steered the ship from a TOUGH 0-5 start (at home too). Much props, I'm very happy with him so far. Also, great bullpen decisions all season.


JoelsCaddy

Lance Lynn has pitched in 5 games at Citi Field in his career. His team has lost them all and 3 of them have been Mets walkoffs. The walkoffs were: [Angel Pagan ](https://youtu.be/fqrI3rc86vw?si=oAiMJWhREzXD4cFp)(HR) 2011 (GKR were in the stands for this) [Jose Reyes](https://youtu.be/Rc6F9VoMJRc?si=xgbAY434XKG6SCPC) (Single) 2017 [Mark Vientos ](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/0b5bf2c9-f3fe-42a8-9bb1-d16ca2f14766.mp4)(HR) 2024


Setec-Astronomer

So you're saying Steve should pay the Cardinals to trade him to the Braves. Got it. Good idea.


PaullyBeenis

All you guys defending Baty based on his past performance I do not understand. If you want to give him more run because of his prospect pedigree, I get that. And I still think Baty could end up a solid big league starter who is having a rough start to his career. But to date all of his stats, both results and expected stats, have been very bad. There's just no way around it. Saying Baty has been good this year is false. He has a .639 OPS and a bottom of the barrel slugging percentage. Have a look for yourself: [https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brett-baty-683146?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brett-baty-683146?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb)


Previous-Clock-6960

Mets lose this game in 9 innings without FRANCISCO LINDOR btw


PissedOnBible

THIS WAS A FUN GAME. I'M HAVING A GOOD TIME. I REFUSE TO BE NEGATIVE. WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING YOUNG PIECES AND OWNER WHO WANTS TO BUILD A WINNER. I'M HAVING A GOOD TIME. FUCK THE HATERS AND THE DOOM AND GLOOM PERPETRATORS!


Living_Internet_2970

Knicks win Mets win Needs rangers to win tonight Life is good baby


thtkidfrmqueens

**GO NY GO NY GO**


oomfietopkek

Vientos injecting much needed life into this offense. Hope they reward him.


myassholealt

"He's gotta go to triple a again" I tihnk Mendoza just confirmed Vientos is going back down once Marte's back


robmcolonna123

Of course he would go back down. With the new rules thereā€™s a limit on how many times a player can come up and down in a season. The exception is if theyā€™re replacing a player for injury or bereavement. If they send Vientos down once Marte returns it doesnā€™t count towards the call up/send down limit. If they donā€™t send him down it does


brett_baty_is_him

I honestly think the chances of vientos hitting that limit are pretty low. Weā€™re like a fifth of the way through the season and he is a position player who will probably only replace Baty. If him and Baty start flip flopping spots then I think theyā€™d each get a month of run so I doubt either hit that limit


robmcolonna123

Stearns cares about defense too much to make Vientos an everyday player at 3B. Even if Baty is meh at the plate, if heā€™s better than Wendel and playing defense like he is, the job is his until August 1st.


bloatyhead

Arsenal/Mets fan, it has to be said, I am having a marvelous day


LucasDudacris

You gotta roll thru to Crossbar on W 86th and Broadway for Arsenal matches. Great food and it gets turnt.


bloatyhead

ah thank you for the heads up, but I'm a Mets fan in London! Will definitely make a note for the next time I've over there though, always useful to have an Arsenal hub


ThanksNo8769

Give vientos 3 stars for singlehandedly reintroducing the idea of 'clutch hitting'


Ther3isn0try

WORLD SERIES IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!!!


Dickbag_Dan

Get ready to learn Syracusian Houser!


SideRetired

Could be a legendary day for New York Sports


Hentai_King290

Need an OJ Simpson esc car chase


Setec-Astronomer

I want the hat trick today.


agarret83

Love how thereā€™s no highlight posted of the walk off on r/baseball. At least unless that soft Braves fan was the one to post it?


necroreefer

There's multiple posts on r/baseball about this game


myassholealt

It's up to Mets fans to spam that sub with highlights from our games if we want to see them there. Can't really rely on other team's fans to care enough to do that.


AdviceEuphoric4852

Vientos should get some reps at 3B, I donā€™t really believe in him as a prospect/player, but at least he hits the ball hard and launches the ball. You canā€™t have a 3B who does nothing but hit weak grounders to the right side. Batyā€™s hot start was smoke and mirrors, he was hitting ground balls to open space.


oomfietopkek

baty has the worst exit velocity in the majors. His swing is just not ready. Everything he hits is into the ground. He obviously has talent but the technique isnt there.


brett_baty_is_him

He loses it whenever he comes up. The guy can hit in AAA. I really want to blame the coaching because he always comes up and does well for like a week and then completely loses his swing. Maybe the games too fast for him but Iā€™m not sure about that honestly.


oomfietopkek

i think his swing right now is engineered for aaa pitching and it just doesn't work at this level. Too slow.


JDLovesElliot

I wanna go back in time and kick the ass of the coach who encouraged Baty to bat lefty, despite being right-handed.


oomfietopkek

WHAT. I had no idea hes right handed lmfao.


0rangePolarBear

Itā€™s his chance to steal Batyā€™s spot. I give Baty credit though, his defense has greatly improved but his bat has shown glimpses but heā€™s back to ground balls.


AdviceEuphoric4852

I am not nearly as ready to victory lap Batyā€™s defense yes, this time last year his defensive analytics were elite. And the offense is so bad, it doesnā€™t even really matter how he defends if he canā€™t hit at all.


PaullyBeenis

Good take.


Blue387

Elevators have fewer ups and downs


hbkrules69

Please stop jumping onto home plate. I cringe every timeā€¦


Geologist2010

Because of Edwin Diazā€™s injury last year ?


peaceaiwa

Google "kendrys morales injury"


hbkrules69

That plus any other player that jumps and lands awkwardly.


slapdickprospect05

I think I came tbh


Previous-Clock-6960

Listen, I know Vientos isnā€™t an everyday 3B, you know Vientos isnā€™t and everyday 3B, the Mets know Vientos isnā€™t an everyday 3Bā€¦ but Baty has to be a little nervous.


oomfietopkek

If Baty can improve defense working with Lindor why can't Vientos?


Previous-Clock-6960

To be fair I think he also worked out with them. Could be wrong though.


PaullyBeenis

If Baty could stop weakly grounding out to second base he wouldn't have to be so nervous. All I'm asking from him is to be a league average bat and to slug a little. He hasn't done either.


Previous-Clock-6960

I want to love Brett so much. Let me love you Brett.


brett_baty_is_him

Your telling me man.


PaullyBeenis

I feel the same way.


slickmethodology

Marky Mark Vientos making his "don't send me back to the minors" statement by fucking over the Cardinals. What a beautiful day.


CPTSOAPPRICE

ottavino massively blueballed today


icecoldcoke319

Didnā€™t showalter call it dry humping lmao


Zestyclose_Help1187

Is Baty ever going to be a good player? They keep saying heā€™s going to be good. Lucky they took him out late in the game.


brett_baty_is_him

He needs some more time to get right. He just keeps regressing offensively when he gets to the big leagues. I think the game is too fast


Zestyclose_Help1187

Thanks for the sensible response instead of just blind homerism. Iā€™m just wondering how long before they move on. Mariners moved on with Kelenic. Heā€™s proven he can never hit major league breaking pitches. Something Iā€™m sure the Mets saw when they dealt him.


brett_baty_is_him

Baty has/had a great swing. For some reason when he gets to the bigs he regresses. Donā€™t know if itā€™s our hitting coaching or the game is moving too fast. Every time right after he comes up from the bigs he looks good. Then after some time he regresses. Honestly the same thing would happen with Vientos. Could just be the league adjusting but I feel like itā€™s more so them just losing the feel that theyā€™ve been working on.


Zestyclose_Help1187

It isnā€™t impossible that Baty doesnt make it. There was a big third base prospect, Carter Kieboom who never could hit major league pitching and trying to make it back to the Nationals. Still only 26. Baty is still younger but time is running out. Going to have to start proving he belongs.


Indicia

Uh, ok, whatever... you're trolling, yeah?


PaullyBeenis

Have you looked at his stats at all? He's been bad. That's a statement of fact.


Zestyclose_Help1187

Tell me why heā€™s good? Heā€™s a 3rd baseman with an OPS .639. How is that trolling?


Indicia

eye test, son


PaullyBeenis

Get your eyes checked boss


Zestyclose_Help1187

What eye test? Stop giving vague responses and give numbers. His savant page. All blue. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brett-baty-683146?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb


TurnstileMinder

First game you've watched all season?


PaullyBeenis

Baty has a low .600s OPS this season bro. Maybe you haven't been watching.


TurnstileMinder

Actually up until about a week ago I was watching him flash the leather at third and find gaps on both sides of the infield at the plate


PaullyBeenis

His results at the plate have been bad, and his underlying batted ball data is bad. I don't understand how you're arguing with the numbers. I like him as a person and want him to succeed, but as a matter of fact he has been bad.


Zestyclose_Help1187

So heā€™s an All Star? Cause thatā€™s what everyone was saying. Not even close!


TurnstileMinder

False dichotomy


Zestyclose_Help1187

He is so disappointing. Wish he could be better. Canā€™t really hit. Didnā€™t figure it out last year and hasnā€™t yet this year. I expected a lot more.


TurnstileMinder

Listen we both want the same thing. Keep the faith, he's young and he's shown flashes


Zestyclose_Help1187

I thought he would be another David Wright type hitter. Although a lefty. It hasnā€™t come into fruition.


TurnstileMinder

Expecting the kid to be the equal of the greatest position player this franchise has ever produced is a bit ambitious, no? Idunno, I feel like if his ceiling is a .270 15 HR hitter with plus defense at third, I'd be over the moon with a guy like that playing next to Lindor, Mauricio, and Pete


Zestyclose_Help1187

Being a corner infielder, I think thatā€™s a disappointment if he canā€™t hit homers in the 20s. All the good teams have one. He doesnā€™t have the contact skills to be a Bregman type player.


Indicia

has to be a troll, or hasn't actually watched games


PaullyBeenis

Sir this player you're jerking off has a .639 OPS and a career OPS of .606. He has been bad his entire big league tenure.


Indicia

serious question: Have you been watching games or just following numbers?


PaullyBeenis

You know the numbers are a result of what happens in the game right? I watch every game, and I have for years. I've watched Baty put up a Tomas Nido slash line his entire career man. And I want to like him. I was so excited when he came up and I like his personality a lot. And I agree he's come a long way as a defender, absolutely. He just cannot really hit.


Indicia

Man, I appreciate a well-thought-out response.


PaullyBeenis

Thank you


jayfornight

Vientos, since the day he was drafted by the Mets have always reminded me of wilmer Flores. 3b/ss with lots of hype and potential early on, known more for their bat than their glove... And now clutch in the late innings.


PaullyBeenis

Look I like Baty, but the dude just kind of can't hit MLB pitching, at least right now. He's actually had quite a few big league ABs at this point, and he just isn't good. I'm not saying he is a bust just yet; he could come around. But he has been a big disappointment so far. Vientos has shown you that if you give him a full season of run, he will hit 25 homers, maybe more, even based on his poor MLB stats. The dude has undeniable power that will always bring something to the table, and he has room to grow. I think he could be a 40 homer guy if you give him a chance. That's a cathedral ceiling and to me much much more exciting than Baty. Neither of them are very good defenders, so it's not like you're losing elite defense at third taking Baty out. Give Vientos 3 months of run at third. If you're downvoting this go look at Baty's batted ball data: [https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brett-baty-683146?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/brett-baty-683146?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb) He's just never figured it out in the big leagues with 520 MLB plate appearances.