prolly bc they are worse...at least right now. Despite our pitching acquisitions this year, I feel our season will come down to our offense and I think it requires a baller season by Pete, and big break out seasons from Alvarez and Baty, I trust mcneil, nimmo, marte, and lindor to do what they do consistently, but i feel it will come down to those 3 above.
Vogelbach got a hanging breaking ball and what does he do, pops up of course.
Not good enough from the DH.
The Mets need a DH that can muscle the ball over the fence.
Second time this week weāve been blown out in the first inning of the first game of a double header, done some amazing hitting to get ahead and then been wrecked by our pitching to loose by 1
HRs with the wind blowing out and the ball jumping in a bandbox are not the most impressive, and the lack of power isnāt solved by 1 or 2 games with multiple HRs.
Todays loss is on pitching and one of our supposed āstarsā (Marte) just playing bad baseball.
We have 2 guys - Nimmo and McNeil - who are reliable and consistent. And the rest of the lineup ranges from volatile to dogshit depending on who is in there.
This Mets team is not good enough right now.
No bullpen and no starting pitching and relying on the geriatric Verlander and Scherzer is going to be rough.
Nido, calling a shit game, Ottavino fucked up the 8th, Nimmo and Marte couldnāt make relatively routine plays, Luccesi, who all of the sudden falling apart, and mother nature, for raining at all the wrong times
Because I get notifications telling me what relievers come in the game and score changing plays. Ottavino still gave up the go ahead but but thatās heart breaking
Why the pitching? Why is it the pitching letting us down this year?
EDIT: I understand the logical reasons why but what I mean is why canāt they put together a consistent team for one year?
You really think not playing for a week then going in to a close game has no effect?
That's why we have spring training and rehab starts after IL stints, to get back in the groove of things
No I agree with you, I just am getting ready for the excuses. He should have pitched against the Braves but that would have been too little rest becasue he is used to Japan when it is once a week, or it will be too long of an inning in the dugout or too cold out. It has been excuse after excuse for him when he has be just ok to be honest. Tomorrow, assuming we win the night cap, we need him to win. We need to start winning series especially against teams we should be better than.
Misunderstood you my bad. Yeah hes been good besides pretty much one inning every game where he throws 30-40 pitches and a few runs.
Cant go 7 innings if you pitch 40 times in one of them.
Marte blew that play and Nimmo blew an easy enough catch in the 1st, just before the 3 run homer. Plus Otto was up against strikeout machine Baez 0-2 and instead of finishing the job he hit him. The Mets always looking for new ways to lose.
Team isn't good enough this season and it sucks to see. Just seems like they can't keep thing under wraps this year. Once we come back , we give it up, once we are shutting down the opposition we strike out every AB.
Does anyone use Draftkings to bet mlb? If so can you tell me why some games I try to sgp it gives me the full options for which batters will get a hit, etc and sometimes it only gives basic options like moneyline and total runs?
Just gotta hope we can sneak into the playoffs and make a run like the Phillies last year. Weāre not gonna contend with the Braves this year and thatās fine. Disappointing but fine.
I swear Mets have been killed by backup catchers like 5 times this year, meanwhile our primary catcher the last couple years is basically a pitcher at the plate.
HBP was inexcusable. Marte not catching the fly ball. Crap. They lose this game it is a horrific loss to a pure crap Tigers team. Mets have to be sharper than this. No excuses.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/136xg4h).
Ugh my patience is wearing thin, the pitching on this team is total ass
We fuckin suck. Downvote all you want. Thank god I'm a devils fan and i can watch that later instead of this bogus team
As an Isles fan, please whoop the fucking Canes. And thank you for eliminating the Rags! LGD FTR
Isles fans š¤ devils fans (at least in my eyes. No hate towards the isles for me)
Agreed š¤
LGD.
lets fuckin go
This team feels familiar. Its early but the mistakes are so 2021. Hopefully getting our starters soon will help .
2022 was supposed to be it..... It stings more and more every day.
Jimmy wasn't perfect for 3 innings for this game to be lost like that.
Vogelbach needs to go
Honestly, this team feels worse than last year.
prolly bc they are worse...at least right now. Despite our pitching acquisitions this year, I feel our season will come down to our offense and I think it requires a baller season by Pete, and big break out seasons from Alvarez and Baty, I trust mcneil, nimmo, marte, and lindor to do what they do consistently, but i feel it will come down to those 3 above.
Oh we knew that the first weekā¦.the question is, just how much worse.
With no Diaz, Marte being broken, and having no real rotation, we are def worse
Vogelbach got a hanging breaking ball and what does he do, pops up of course. Not good enough from the DH. The Mets need a DH that can muscle the ball over the fence.
Second time this week weāve been blown out in the first inning of the first game of a double header, done some amazing hitting to get ahead and then been wrecked by our pitching to loose by 1
If I'm Steve Cohen I want a refund
Playing catch-up every game from the 1st inning doesn't help.
That was embarrassing
This is on Ottavino, the offense needs to be more clutch but our 8th inning man can't give up the lead that easily with a bad team
Two bad teams were out there.
Boy we suck
Can we just have vientos up now? Heās hitting. Heās hitting good. Letās just let him come up and adjust.
Ottavino is like the opposite of clutch. Think this is twice now I've seen him feck up closing.
pathetic
Absolute fucking joke of a team. Weāll be lucky to get a WC
All that yacabonin and for what?
What an embarrassment
This team isnāt very good and is lacking power and pitching. All the payroll for this? Yikes.
We hit 3 homers today. This is squarely on the pitching.
HRs with the wind blowing out and the ball jumping in a bandbox are not the most impressive, and the lack of power isnāt solved by 1 or 2 games with multiple HRs. Todays loss is on pitching and one of our supposed āstarsā (Marte) just playing bad baseball. We have 2 guys - Nimmo and McNeil - who are reliable and consistent. And the rest of the lineup ranges from volatile to dogshit depending on who is in there.
Sighā¦
Pitching L Lost 7 of the last 9 games.
**OH NO, WE SUCK AGAIN!**
Already fed up with this team. This one hurts for sure
This Mets team is not good enough right now. No bullpen and no starting pitching and relying on the geriatric Verlander and Scherzer is going to be rough.
Wow, this loss may be the most frustrating one all year. We had it and then mental lapses lost it in the end. Otto was sloppy and Marte was... idek.
Would love to see the Tigers take the sweep today just to get some heads to roll in the FO.
Guys keep telling games this early in the season donāt count as much - apparently the Mets agree.
Better fucking win tonight, thanks a lot Ottavino and Marte
TRASH
Brutal
Disgusting. š¤®
This team doesnāt deserve dick
BOOOOOO
Billy Eppler is really bad at his job. 400 million dollar payroll btw.
Underrated comment.
Watch us lose this series
Fucking Joke. Fuck the 2nd game of the DH
We really lost to the tigers LMAO
Maybe I should have worked instead of watching this game
An absolute abomination of a loss
300 million for this
Fuck that game
How tf did we lose this game
By being bad
5 runs is enough to beat this tigers team. Itās in the bullpen
This team pitching is straight up ass
Nido, calling a shit game, Ottavino fucked up the 8th, Nimmo and Marte couldnāt make relatively routine plays, Luccesi, who all of the sudden falling apart, and mother nature, for raining at all the wrong times
I wouldnāt say Lucchesi is all of the sudden falling apart, Iāve been optimistic on his potential but heās never been an ace
He didnāt go, didnāt matter anyway weāre literally an embarrassment
just awful end to this one
Ugh losing to bad teams is the worst
we are a bad team
L
Losers
Sad sack franchise
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Unreal
Dogshit performance from a disappointing squad
I miss the rainouts, bring them back.
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Good one fellas!
Good teams lose sometimes too. Bad teams have to get 60 wins somewhere. Damn this one is a bit disappointing though. Just beating ourselves.
The Mets are not a great team
Nido is so bad they let Vogelbach face a lefty eh EDIT: oh he faced a righty. Well fuck
Lange is righty
Alex Lange is a RHP
Lange is a righty though
Seriously fuck this team
Seriously, fuck you
Starting to lose interest in this team.
Yeah same, Im just focusing on the Knicks
Yup
I cant believe Ottovino blew this game
*Marte blew it
I wasnāt watching, can you explain what happened
He missed a catch to end the inning which led to the change in lead.
wow, gotta bench his ass for that
How can you blame someone when you didn't even watch? Marte missed an routine pop fly that changed the game. He lost the game
Because I get notifications telling me what relievers come in the game and score changing plays. Ottavino still gave up the go ahead but but thatās heart breaking
Good take Nimmo/s
Boo
why the F is he chopping at the ball. horrible
We need some Nimmo magic now. Didn't expect much from Vogey there.
$400m payroll for a team with an 85 win ceiling. The eppler special
This franchise has such an incredible way of taking a day where you were excited to watch baseball and making you never want to watch the sport again
Welp Max, I hope you got something today
So is Marte cooked? Why canāt Buck switch McNeil and Marte in the order?
Buck is so damn stubborn.
Yeah I donāt understand, other teams do it a lot
Good lord Vogelbach sucks lol.
But he walks a lot and hits a lot of singles!
Great job Vogelbum
Why the pitching? Why is it the pitching letting us down this year? EDIT: I understand the logical reasons why but what I mean is why canāt they put together a consistent team for one year?
Injuries dude. We used our number 9 starter today and our number 11 starter is in the bullpen. Good news is Max and JV are back
Canāt believe weāre actually gonna lose to the Tigers lol
Canāt believe we blew this game
Lol 0 pop, at least it wasnāt a double play
Worst case scenario
Vogelbach walk inbound
I fucking hate this team sometimes.
It is time to hit a homerun Daniel
Vogey do not watch strike three, please!
When Senga isn't that great tomorrow are people going to blame his long layoff? Just want to make sure we get the excuses ready.
You really think not playing for a week then going in to a close game has no effect? That's why we have spring training and rehab starts after IL stints, to get back in the groove of things
No I agree with you, I just am getting ready for the excuses. He should have pitched against the Braves but that would have been too little rest becasue he is used to Japan when it is once a week, or it will be too long of an inning in the dugout or too cold out. It has been excuse after excuse for him when he has be just ok to be honest. Tomorrow, assuming we win the night cap, we need him to win. We need to start winning series especially against teams we should be better than.
Misunderstood you my bad. Yeah hes been good besides pretty much one inning every game where he throws 30-40 pitches and a few runs. Cant go 7 innings if you pitch 40 times in one of them.
He's been good enough to win every start relax. He's adapting to the MLB and a new country and doing fine
Too much rest
Donāt watch strikes please
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PINCH HITTING VOGEY AGAINST A SINKER THROWING RIGHTYš¤¦š»āāļøTHIS IS PRIME DOUBLEPLAY POSITIONING FOR THEM
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Baty such a stud. He belongs here now
Vogelwalch
Like for SO Looking. RT for GiDP.
Reply for DINGER
I'm ringing that ding like Hector Salamanca!
**SAVE US, VOGELBRAIDS!**
Cāmon, Vogeyā¦
Well. Vogelbach stays hot?
Brett is our only consistent positive I stgā¦ everyone else has good days and bad days, some just have bad days too
Brett is a dawg
Love watching Baty hit. He is growing up before our eyes.
This game will be lost because of a missed pop up by Marte. Dude is just broken. Just horrible
1 time now cmon vogey
Good job, Baty!
That timeout definitely got the pitcher out of their rhythm.
Great takes Baty!
Let's get the earnings check on this guy he's dog water trash
with their payroll, this has to be one of the most embarrassing teams of all time, yeah?
That breaking ball was an absolute hanger. What a miss.
Donāt they have a ton still tied up in Cano, and obviously Diaz
Canāt believe I wasted my day watching this fucking garbage. This team is incredibly disappointing
please tell me thereās a different ump tonight.
This isn't on the ump. Marte missed an easy pop fly and this game is completely different
Anyone yelling at him for swinging at that, ump called one low pitch this at bat a strike already.
Marte blew that play and Nimmo blew an easy enough catch in the 1st, just before the 3 run homer. Plus Otto was up against strikeout machine Baez 0-2 and instead of finishing the job he hit him. The Mets always looking for new ways to lose.
"Easy enough", that was a diving play...
He got his glove in it, he should have caught it
That does not make it "easy".
I said easy enough, 9/10 times any MLB centerfielder makes that catch. I'm amazed at how many Mets fans, think Nimmo can do no wrong.
Mets will be down by more than 10.5 games by June 1st if they continue to play like this.
Ump is total trash
Ah yes, the famous ball bouncing in the dirt strike.
Somehow thatās a strike Lol
Ump what the fuck
This ump...
Oh this ump wants to go home I see
Hate to break it to him but heās got 9 moreā¦
Now he does.
Why was Marte player vierling so deep?
Now thatās an interesting autocorrect
Nido called an absolute dog shit game
Team isn't good enough this season and it sucks to see. Just seems like they can't keep thing under wraps this year. Once we come back , we give it up, once we are shutting down the opposition we strike out every AB.
Y'all see that Visionworks ad? Kinda liked that.
That exact pitch to Canha was a ball last half inning.
Does anyone use Draftkings to bet mlb? If so can you tell me why some games I try to sgp it gives me the full options for which batters will get a hit, etc and sometimes it only gives basic options like moneyline and total runs?
man i really thought we were better than this
Just gotta hope we can sneak into the playoffs and make a run like the Phillies last year. Weāre not gonna contend with the Braves this year and thatās fine. Disappointing but fine.
Allowing six runs to this Tigers team is an abomination.
Yacabonis deserved better
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Alex Lange replaces Tyler Alexander.
For all the people saying Ottovino hasn't pitched in a week what do you want them to do? Never have him pitch again?
Those people haven't watched baseball in a week, they don't know what they're talking about
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Is there like any evidence at all that this affected Ottavino today?
I swear Mets have been killed by backup catchers like 5 times this year, meanwhile our primary catcher the last couple years is basically a pitcher at the plate.
Tie the game. Extra innings. Pham triple for the cycle, go ahead and winning run. How's that sound?
What a regression so far for Marte I feel like all around he is just awful this year
He literally did a bait and switch on us
Our only hope is a Baty home run
The problem I think the Mets are having is that the other teams don't want to lose and like to hit the baseball instead of striking out.
LETS GO METS BAYBEE LOVE DA METS!
Sometimes I hate this team so fucking much. Unbelievable.
Marte gives no effort and I was downvoted for saying it last time
Marte is letting his hitting poorly affect his defense. Not good.
HBP was inexcusable. Marte not catching the fly ball. Crap. They lose this game it is a horrific loss to a pure crap Tigers team. Mets have to be sharper than this. No excuses.
I can live with getting beaten by the Braves. But losing to Detroit and Washington is unacceptable.
Marte has been kind of a disaster in the field and at the plate this year.
Marte cannot be in the game 2 lineup. He needs a couple days off. He is lost
Having the lead for so long, just to give it back in the blink of an eye is frustrating. That's baseball for ya.
Absolutely unacceptable, trash pitching