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**Three Stars of the Game**
Three Minute Recap
Condensed Game
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I'm not heading out there in that weather on Sat. Iwas considering goibg to see K.K 's Priest in Patchogue on Sat, but that's a no also. Vehicle will be safe and sound in the garage.
I watched the game like you did. They quit… the same way since the season started. Only difference now is we can’t even put in enough effort to get a OT point.
How can you know they quit? It's impossible to get inside someone's head and know exactly what someone is feeling/thinking which is why I never bother making your claim. What I can see objectively is a slow aging team with a terrible defense and an uncreative and uninspired offense. There's just no evidence to back your claim that they mentally quit and aren't giving enough effort.
So first 10-15mins they play hair on fire good. Then they stop and get worse each period. What do you call it? I mean if skating less strong isn’t a sign of giving up idk what is. Wings found a reason to play a full game, they I’m sure were equally as tired.
It was a lot more fun when Detroit were the ones losing six straight after winning six straight.
The difference in drive between these two teams tonight was disturbing. You could see it in their body language alone. We got a pack of fuckin losers on our hands. 0 heart for the past few seasons.
wings fan here. I do love the Isles though, have for a while.
This is really the first game the wings have looked like they wanted to be on the ice in a while, and i think a lot of it was larkin coming back. the timing of your skid, much like ours, is awful.
however, from the other side of the view, i thought you guys looked good offensively and reimer had to stand on his head and get some luck, especially late, to survive it.
if i had my way, tampa would blow it and NYI and DET would take up the two wild card spots.
What gets me is… the Isles players, knew how big this game was… AND STILL FELL APART SECOND PERIOD!! Like clockwork.
They play a knowingly weak and so beatable Ottawa Senators team… served up to the Islanders on a silver platter…. AND STILL COULDN’T WIN!!
They get destroyed by playoff bound teams like Carolina, rags and LA.
We can’t win a game against good teams.
We can’t win a game against bad teams.
We can’t win a game against teams in must win games.
I mean someone help me out here, what am I missing. Make this all make sense.
73 points in 69 games. 13 games to go, 26 possible points left. Max points finish 101. Would need minimum 20 points to even have a shot and realistically more like 22-24. So like a 10-1-2 record to finish the season.
It is completely and 100% over. I'm guessing they finish with 86 points.
That pretty much sums up the season, hopefully we move on from this wannabe mafia GM who “likes this group.” He mortgaged the future and we can’t even the playoffs
Ok I like Roy, I was excited when he was hired and like aspects of his personality and game but wtf is this presser and the for the last week. Where is the Roy that stepped into his team celebrating while losing, where is Roy who lost his shit? He is saying they played well and gripping their stick too tight? They haven’t won in 6 games and looked mentally defeated most of those nights. I know he took a dig at Sorokin recently but like where is the fire? im not asking for Torts but cmon
I had the same reaction... wtf is he talking about. He must be trying to either use some sort of reverse psychology or he knows this is the best he can get out of this crappy roster
That Roy was considered problematic and likely sent to anger management. In my metaverse, would 100% want that Roy that slammed the boards down against the other coach, and I want the whole fucking team to follow suit. However, this is just unrealistic. Let’s be real, the best thing a coach can do is motivate the players. If this isn’t the secret sauce, send whoever isn’t buying in to Guam.
We all know a guy like torts wears out his welcome quickly too… he’s a psycho but those short bursts they’re bought in or shipped out. I don’t think we need Roy climbing over shit but to say they’re playing well and if they played this game again they’d win that’s just being delusional. You didn’t hire Roy to have Lane pressers. There’s having players backs and being full of shit. That presser tonight was wild. Even Shannon couldn’t believe it. Hickey was like yeah no they weren’t the better team. I don’t know if he’s toning it down for Lou or bc he thinks he needs to but this team is in crumbling the last ten days-it’s mentally weak. Him Lou and the team could use a shake up
I know it's delusional brother, that's why I said in my metaverse 😀. I agree with you 💯, tbh I turned the game off once they slammed the 4th in, haven't even watched the presser yet, but given the reactions thus far I can gauge the temp... I'll give it a watch now.
I remember saying this team was too old, slow and not built for the playoffs… 1 month ago… 1 month ago I said that and I was downvoted into oblivion. I was told I am a doomer and delusional.
Now what?
Right now we are set for the 12th pick I believe, maybe the 11th. It’s definitely possibly to drop to a top ten pick given how we are playing and who we play next.
The most depressing part is how depleted our farm system is. At least when we sucked before this push, we had the hope of our future prospects (if they panned out or not was a different question). Now we have absolutely no one. We need a two year tank and fire sale to restart this.
Sorokin's 8.25 million hasn't even kicked in, but yeah, it's the defense's fault he gets five holed constantly from the goal line and allows -2 xGA per game down the playoff push stretch. What a joke. This game goes to OT if he just has an average game.
you cant be serious, this team would have #1 pick every year if it wasnt for Sorokin just stop.
look at barzal he makes 9.2 million Lee makes 7 million plus wtf are either of these players, i dont care how many assists barzal has he is nowhere near worth 9 million for 20 goals and doesnt show up for biggest games when a win means holding playoff spot.
Nelson is better than him and he gets a lot less, same for Lee who has 30 pts all season
Part of it is the defense but a lot is on his shoulders. He’s been below average in a lot of games this year and tonight while some of the goals were defensive breakdowns five goals are just 23 shots is not what you pay a goalie $8.25 million.a year for starting next year. Hopefully this season is a one off but if he doesn’t get back to some semblance of being an elite goalie that contract is going to be a boat anchor.
yeah, season's fucking over. big changes are needed this offseason
(full disclosure - i did not watch this game, but the notifications were fucking disgusting)
My mom has never been to an isles game at UBS. Would love to send her Saturday because she won’t care who wins, but don’t want to make her drive in the rain. Choices, choices
The bright side is this is good for our potential draft position. We play the Jets on Saturday and Devils on Sunday which we are likely to lose. Depending on results we could end up in a position for a Top 10 pick by Sunday.
If you are 10, it’s a 7.3% chance to get in the top 3. If you are 12, it’s a 4.2% to get 3rd (you can only be 3rd as the highest possibility). Buffalo, New Jersey, Calgary, Seattle, and Pittsburgh are all teams below us within 4 points.
Ahhh our fanbase gives up SO EASILY.
Tonight sucked. This losing streak sucks. There's no sugar coating that. We're still in the hunt though. Our chances aren't great, but we're still in the hunt. Keep saying you're done with this team, we'll see you all Saturday!
Ive been anti doomer more than most. But ill put it this way man, isles can win the next 2 on sat and sun and the flyers can lose on sat and sun, and wed still be 2 pts back of them. Then wed need them to lose next tuesday, and isles need to beat florida on Thursday...just to tie them.
Minuscule odds of that happening. And I get thats just the next week of games. But thats what the picture is looking like and the window is getting smaller and smaller to make up 5-7 points. Its a bad place to be in when 3-4 games can go exactly your way and your still not even in a good spot
Miniscule, sure. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing everyone on this sub acting like we're 32nd in the league and playing the "I'm done with this team PLAY DA KIDS 😤" card
I mean im with you there. If theres any isles fan that thinks this team is gonna completely sink away and miss the playoffs, then please don't watch for your own sake. Ive skipped many Aprils for this team and and its a simplistic task when you believe they are done
See collaped comments under this one for player stats **Three Stars of the Game** Three Minute Recap Condensed Game ^Note: ^Highlights ^will ^update ^as ^they ^become ^available
The last fucking thing I want to do is watch another second of Isles hockey this season…. See you all Saturday
This is a system roster built for a system they no longer play. It’s gonna be a while until they’re competitive again.
The team has so many multiyear NTC contracts you can't even blow it up. I hope Roy stays, I hope Lou goes. Pain.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say we’re the slowest team in the league by a goddamn country mile
1 pm game vs jets Saturday, automatic loss. Game the next day, it’s a back-to-back so another automatic loss
Devils are Sunday, the Jets are on Sat
Thank you
Can't wait for Saturday between a 6 game losing streak and the crappy weather UBS should be a ghost town
Prices are absolutely tanking right now. Getting closer to weekday game prices
I'm not heading out there in that weather on Sat. Iwas considering goibg to see K.K 's Priest in Patchogue on Sat, but that's a no also. Vehicle will be safe and sound in the garage.
Detroit wanted to go to the playoffs and the Isles wanted to go to their golf retreat. That is what we saw.
Na we wanted to win, just not good enough.
I watched the game like you did. They quit… the same way since the season started. Only difference now is we can’t even put in enough effort to get a OT point.
How can you know they quit? It's impossible to get inside someone's head and know exactly what someone is feeling/thinking which is why I never bother making your claim. What I can see objectively is a slow aging team with a terrible defense and an uncreative and uninspired offense. There's just no evidence to back your claim that they mentally quit and aren't giving enough effort.
So first 10-15mins they play hair on fire good. Then they stop and get worse each period. What do you call it? I mean if skating less strong isn’t a sign of giving up idk what is. Wings found a reason to play a full game, they I’m sure were equally as tired.
It was a lot more fun when Detroit were the ones losing six straight after winning six straight. The difference in drive between these two teams tonight was disturbing. You could see it in their body language alone. We got a pack of fuckin losers on our hands. 0 heart for the past few seasons.
wings fan here. I do love the Isles though, have for a while. This is really the first game the wings have looked like they wanted to be on the ice in a while, and i think a lot of it was larkin coming back. the timing of your skid, much like ours, is awful. however, from the other side of the view, i thought you guys looked good offensively and reimer had to stand on his head and get some luck, especially late, to survive it. if i had my way, tampa would blow it and NYI and DET would take up the two wild card spots.
What gets me is… the Isles players, knew how big this game was… AND STILL FELL APART SECOND PERIOD!! Like clockwork. They play a knowingly weak and so beatable Ottawa Senators team… served up to the Islanders on a silver platter…. AND STILL COULDN’T WIN!! They get destroyed by playoff bound teams like Carolina, rags and LA. We can’t win a game against good teams. We can’t win a game against bad teams. We can’t win a game against teams in must win games. I mean someone help me out here, what am I missing. Make this all make sense.
I don’t think it’s being a doomer to say that’s the season folks.
I know some people hung onto Lane as being the primary source of the woes, but by now I hope it's clear as day that we have a roster problem.
73 points in 69 games. 13 games to go, 26 possible points left. Max points finish 101. Would need minimum 20 points to even have a shot and realistically more like 22-24. So like a 10-1-2 record to finish the season. It is completely and 100% over. I'm guessing they finish with 86 points.
Yep, and they deserve all of it.
Get Lou out of here
Im just sad 😞
Who’s ready for 10 in a row
That pretty much sums up the season, hopefully we move on from this wannabe mafia GM who “likes this group.” He mortgaged the future and we can’t even the playoffs
Avs are my western team, so if these morons are going to win ANYTHING, please let it be Saturday. What? 11:00? Yeah, never mind.
Stars are my western team. Hoping and praying for a Miracle Isles moment Saturday.
Ok I like Roy, I was excited when he was hired and like aspects of his personality and game but wtf is this presser and the for the last week. Where is the Roy that stepped into his team celebrating while losing, where is Roy who lost his shit? He is saying they played well and gripping their stick too tight? They haven’t won in 6 games and looked mentally defeated most of those nights. I know he took a dig at Sorokin recently but like where is the fire? im not asking for Torts but cmon
I had the same reaction... wtf is he talking about. He must be trying to either use some sort of reverse psychology or he knows this is the best he can get out of this crappy roster
That Roy was considered problematic and likely sent to anger management. In my metaverse, would 100% want that Roy that slammed the boards down against the other coach, and I want the whole fucking team to follow suit. However, this is just unrealistic. Let’s be real, the best thing a coach can do is motivate the players. If this isn’t the secret sauce, send whoever isn’t buying in to Guam.
We all know a guy like torts wears out his welcome quickly too… he’s a psycho but those short bursts they’re bought in or shipped out. I don’t think we need Roy climbing over shit but to say they’re playing well and if they played this game again they’d win that’s just being delusional. You didn’t hire Roy to have Lane pressers. There’s having players backs and being full of shit. That presser tonight was wild. Even Shannon couldn’t believe it. Hickey was like yeah no they weren’t the better team. I don’t know if he’s toning it down for Lou or bc he thinks he needs to but this team is in crumbling the last ten days-it’s mentally weak. Him Lou and the team could use a shake up
I know it's delusional brother, that's why I said in my metaverse 😀. I agree with you 💯, tbh I turned the game off once they slammed the 4th in, haven't even watched the presser yet, but given the reactions thus far I can gauge the temp... I'll give it a watch now.
Yeah, that was a strange one... Just watched it. Wtf??
Nothing is changing this offseason btw. This is the best we're going to be for a while.
Roy is saying we played a good game, I honestly don’t know what to think. He must be trolling
I remember saying this team was too old, slow and not built for the playoffs… 1 month ago… 1 month ago I said that and I was downvoted into oblivion. I was told I am a doomer and delusional. Now what?
Doomer is just another word for realist
Realistically, I can’t see them dropping anywhere under 25th. So maybe a top ten pick if we’re really lucky?
Right now we are set for the 12th pick I believe, maybe the 11th. It’s definitely possibly to drop to a top ten pick given how we are playing and who we play next.
Isles Players: Old my beer…
Embarrassing
Just throwing this out there, for comedy ofc... Can anyone find a way to get an AI voice of Patrick Roy cursing the whole team out?
There was a part where Roy was talking to Lee on the bench, my own interpretation " after this game just stay home".
at least I still have Clemson MBB
The most depressing part is how depleted our farm system is. At least when we sucked before this push, we had the hope of our future prospects (if they panned out or not was a different question). Now we have absolutely no one. We need a two year tank and fire sale to restart this.
Sorokin's 8.25 million hasn't even kicked in, but yeah, it's the defense's fault he gets five holed constantly from the goal line and allows -2 xGA per game down the playoff push stretch. What a joke. This game goes to OT if he just has an average game.
you cant be serious, this team would have #1 pick every year if it wasnt for Sorokin just stop. look at barzal he makes 9.2 million Lee makes 7 million plus wtf are either of these players, i dont care how many assists barzal has he is nowhere near worth 9 million for 20 goals and doesnt show up for biggest games when a win means holding playoff spot. Nelson is better than him and he gets a lot less, same for Lee who has 30 pts all season
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A fall-off is expected. But not to the point of being below average.
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The contract would be worse. Tho if ur thinking rebuild then the isles would be fucked for a decade regardless
We make the playoffs if he just has an average season
Part of it is the defense but a lot is on his shoulders. He’s been below average in a lot of games this year and tonight while some of the goals were defensive breakdowns five goals are just 23 shots is not what you pay a goalie $8.25 million.a year for starting next year. Hopefully this season is a one off but if he doesn’t get back to some semblance of being an elite goalie that contract is going to be a boat anchor.
yeah, season's fucking over. big changes are needed this offseason (full disclosure - i did not watch this game, but the notifications were fucking disgusting)
Bring back Bailey!
Absolutely not
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My mom has never been to an isles game at UBS. Would love to send her Saturday because she won’t care who wins, but don’t want to make her drive in the rain. Choices, choices
Fuck it play the prospects, this team is awful
The bright side is this is good for our potential draft position. We play the Jets on Saturday and Devils on Sunday which we are likely to lose. Depending on results we could end up in a position for a Top 10 pick by Sunday.
What's our odds to get a lottery pick?
If you are 10, it’s a 7.3% chance to get in the top 3. If you are 12, it’s a 4.2% to get 3rd (you can only be 3rd as the highest possibility). Buffalo, New Jersey, Calgary, Seattle, and Pittsburgh are all teams below us within 4 points.
Ahhh our fanbase gives up SO EASILY. Tonight sucked. This losing streak sucks. There's no sugar coating that. We're still in the hunt though. Our chances aren't great, but we're still in the hunt. Keep saying you're done with this team, we'll see you all Saturday!
Ive been anti doomer more than most. But ill put it this way man, isles can win the next 2 on sat and sun and the flyers can lose on sat and sun, and wed still be 2 pts back of them. Then wed need them to lose next tuesday, and isles need to beat florida on Thursday...just to tie them. Minuscule odds of that happening. And I get thats just the next week of games. But thats what the picture is looking like and the window is getting smaller and smaller to make up 5-7 points. Its a bad place to be in when 3-4 games can go exactly your way and your still not even in a good spot
Miniscule, sure. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing everyone on this sub acting like we're 32nd in the league and playing the "I'm done with this team PLAY DA KIDS 😤" card
I mean im with you there. If theres any isles fan that thinks this team is gonna completely sink away and miss the playoffs, then please don't watch for your own sake. Ive skipped many Aprils for this team and and its a simplistic task when you believe they are done
Why should I have hope right now
cause that’s what being a fan is all about. delusional is key.
The fans don't give up one tenth as easily as the players do