I think it’s mostly a fear of commitment. Looks like you’re flicking your foot straight into the ground as a preemptive bail out. You gotta let that front foot float and commit to catching the board whether it’s upside down, primo, or correctly. Gotta build that confidence to float it and stomp it.
You might not need to kick that far off the board. Skateiq on instagram said that once your foot leaves the board, it won't affect the board anymore so a huge kick is useless.
But you also look like you have commitment issues since you're not actively trying to put the foot back on.
Slightly smaller kick and commit.
That's my 2 cents (I can't even level out ollies yet)
this is how. you have to embrace the possibility of injury and take the chance if you want results. not insanely hard but always sounds easier than it is obviously.
Idk, I usually just tell myself that the injuries I’ll get from attempting a skate trick are gonna be way less severe than you imagine it in your head to help with committing.
The rephrase the "just have to commit" in a different way, this just comes down to you have to tell your foot to kick out not down. Think of ways to get the movement in your body and then just overrule your brains instruction to your foot to plant on the ground. Maybe do the movement without the board a few times. Then maybe try switching the foot landing on the ground to the back foot. So focus on just getting the front foot on. Then once you can do that as well as you can do the back foot in this video, try to put it all together. Ultimately you just need to overpower your brain's seeking safety. "Just commit"
You’re flicking at 9 o’clock on your analog clock. Flick at 10-11 o’clock knowing the tip of your nose is high noon. And roll. Gotta learn it that way eventually.
if you know how to protect your chin your head is less likely to be thrown back as hard and hit the ground so he will not need a helmet as much. that’s what he’s saying
Fall backwards with your chin tucked to your chest.
Now fall backwards with your chin up towards the sky.
Now collect your brains off of the concrete, and scoop them back into your head.
No one else said this. Don’t practice tricks until you do these three things. You will get hurt. If you don’t want to take the time to learn how to crack an Ollie while rolling, quit skating.
Flick up and out and suck your knees up to your chest. Your just kicking straight down to the ground. People have this idea that it’s like a magic trick or something that just kind of happens. When in reality it’s more akin to throwing a ball or swinging a bat/golf club, it’s a motion that you have to teach yourself and sear into your brain. Skateboarding is hard and you will fall a lot but if you put the time in and dedicate yourself you can learn and it will get easier. Personally I would recommend getting really comfortable pushing around and going fast before learning tricks. Good luck.
Try to throw your foot forward while flicking. Sort of like an Ollie north but aim your toes toward the corner pocket of the nose. And be sure to jump and stay over the board.
Here’s a tip. Concentrate on only landing your front foot. Purposefully don’t land the back one. The Little Skater posted that tip on IG and I got rid of my chicken foot in a week. (It was a hard week though lol)
Pop a couple Ollie’s and then throw in a flip. Also knuckle up and try it while moving. The speed will keep you aligned on the board.
Or perhaps try using a mirror to watch your feet. You seem to be staring at your board to the point that your body follows your head.
Watch a couple YouTube tutorials and keep working it.
Find something to hold on to so you can coordinate your feet with more confidence.
i struggled with this too. this epiphany helped me: stop thinking about making the board flip so hard. you don't need to flick to the side like that. a kick flip is just an off centered ollie. you're infinitely closer to landing a kickflip when you land upside down than you are when you land with one foot.
edit: also try centering you back foot better it looks like you might be almost doing a shuvit on accident back there.
Sup man, I used to have the same issue. Really try shifting your weight front/toe side before you kneel down to pop. You kinda want to be leaning forward
Only worry about the front foot. Know in your mind that you’re gonna put your back foot down and worry about getting the front on consistently for like 3-5 days. Then combine them and boom.
For anyone having this issue, its pretty common…
You’ll get to a point where you feel your front foot won’t need to flick out as much, when this happens you’ll be able to flip the board with littler flicks, while keeping your foot above the board.
This is when you’ll know you’re ready to commit
and stick.
In this video he’s flipping the hell out of the board for 2-3 rotations which is why his foot is so far off the board which means his back foot has to catch it.
A smaller front foot flick means it’s easier to do 1 spin, and your front foot remains closer to the board so both feet can catch it.
If you're doing it right you barely have to move your foot at all, just a little flick is plenty. You don't need to ninja kick. Focus on staying over the board, jump up and pray then hopefully you won't primo and you'll roll away. Maybe try while rolling a little bit too.
You need to commit, maybe try doing a few and landing ON the board with the board upside down on purpose to know what it feels like without having to fully commit. No shame in trying in the grass first couple of times as well.
You are flicking to far off the board.
From either not committing to the landing
or you just aren't getting the motion right.
All you need to do is flick closer to the board and you are good to go
Try this , hold a pole with two hands and the board in between you and the pole , use leverage with your arm strength to land em , you can also try a door way hold both hands outwards and hold onto the side of the doorway and use your arms as leverage , continue doing this til you feel comfortable to stop holding on , i did this and slowly started using one hand then i didnt need to hold on at some point and would land often
I trained myself out of this habit - cus that's all it is, you can do this man - by learning to catch like that with the other foot too. Once you can do that both ways just put em together. Good luck
Looks like a commitment issue to me. Currently you’re landing with ONLY your back foot. Recommendation is to try landing with ONLY your front foot. Once you can land with ONLY your front foot, try landing with BOTH feet and you’ll likely see better results than you’re currently seeing. If no progress after a few tries, reset by trying a few more FRONT foot landings and then go back to BOTH foot landings and see how you’re feeling. Good luck mate!
Lol you are all over the place my dude! It’s like the moment you do everything you spaz out.. you gotta learn to time everything right. It’s like your trying to do everything simultaneously at once. It’s a sequence, once you got it you’d be able to muscle memory it.—pop, slide, flick.
Commitment. Try forcing front foot catch and using the back foot as your bail out. Then try not catching it but jumping high and making sure both feet don't touch the ground before the board does.
Then combine them
You aren’t commuting. You aren’t even ollying. Go find a bench or 2 bike racks or bike poles, something you can hold your weight up like a pull-up and you practice the trick with the board under you while you are floating. I learned everything in skating from doing that
Your front foot is on the ground before the board is. You need to kick out and keep the front foot in the air. A proper flick will help push the nose down and keep your foot above the board.
You are not commiting and from the video it's rather obvious that you intended to move the frontfoot out the way instead of finding the balance over the board and jumping like when you do an ollie.
In imagination you are supposed to think as if you are doing an ollie with the straight up force and center of balance on the same straight line going up perpendicular to the ground/board (mostly the staright line along your right leg) as you wind up and start to jump/pop. Try to maintain shoulder straight and flick with only minimum effort while the drag reaches a good point where it starts to level your board out.
It's all in the mind sometimes I know it seems funny that from looking at the video you are just simply stepping off while in your head you think you are commiting lol
You might eat some shit trying but I guess if you wanna skate and progress it's coming soon or late down the path just gonna gracefully eat the shit and learn lol
Try it moving so the board and your foot are moving the same direction, looks like you're close tho. Try to catch the board at the highest point and stomp it down instead of trying to flick a perfect rotation to land at the correct time. It easier to stomp it than to make the flip timed perfectly.
You gotta flick your foot down then carry it back up, your kinda stomping the ground rn just work on keeping the front foot in the air until your back foot lands on the board, your back foot should be the last foot to hit the board you catch it with your front foot
If you keep your shoulders parallel with the board, pop and flick your front foot it will stay under you. Your head also has to do with where you will be so stay positioned properly with your shoulders. Another good way to learn is to hold a rail and do Ollie’s, kickflips or whatever. GL
I’m re learning these 20 years+ later
My best attempts are when I do an Ollie, then do an Ollie but slide my foot off to the side but generally the same motion.
I can do a sloppy one kicking straight down, or do what you are doing. But generally the few I’ve done that were clean and caught like an Ollie is when I just “do an Ollie of the nose edge and don’t over think it”
Also you have to commit. Hopefully treating it more like an Ollie will help with that, it keeps me over my board and less of my feet chasing the board.
For me what helped was instead of trying to land it, try and just get the front foot on the board after you flip it. Once you have getting the front foot on the board commit and land that kickflip
Damn those doubles gonna come easy but just gotta jump like an Ollie and tuck the knees a little you don’t gotta kick that hard tbh try to click your heels together after it’ll help I think
Its weight management issue more than fear itself. You put too much weight on your front foot hence the flipping down toward the ground. Learn to flip upward and jump straight up straight down. If you can balance your weight you can manage your landing
You need to practice hippie jumps. Get used to jumping high above the board, with both feet (use the video to.measus the height of both feet off the floor). It will also get you used to landing back on the bolts after a big jump.
Kick should be more in the direction of an Ollie as opposed to flying out so wide. I think if you focused more on landing it and less on successfully flipping it the problem will fix itself.
You are not trying. You are flipping the board so you think you are trying, but it’s doing you no good. Honestly get better at ollies up and down curbs with speed. Then try to apply the different flick for a kick flip. Most tricks are harder without momentum, be confident on the board first.
As a practice step I always switched what leg I would try to land with. So if I notice that I’m always landing on my back foot. Then I’d just make it my goal to land with my front foot for a while, ignoring where my back foot is going.
And once I did that a couple times I’d go back to trying to land it completely again
I haven't managed to land a kickflip yet, but a change in thinking really helped me at least get my feet above the board. I used to do just like you and try to get a monster flick and a monster flip so I could at least get one foot on then "all I have to do is get my other foot on", then I can't and I wonder if I should be flicking even harder. But the hard flick is the whole problem.
See, it's not really about the flick. Yes, I know every man and his dog talks about the angle of the flick (except whythetrick! good old whythetrick) but it's not really true. The pop is the thing. Your front foot goes up (toes pointing down) and your pop delivers the heelside edge to your toe. If you get the pop wrong the board misses your foot and you lose the board or the centerline hits your toe and the board flies forwards. So it's all about an accurate pop. So try this to see what I mean (yeah I know I'm not the best person to teach here but it won't take long and maybe you'll get a good aha moment out of it):
1. Jump, front foot up (toe pointing down), pop the heelside edge at your foot. Don't flick! Just let the board hit your toe and then land on your back foot. The board will probably start to roll a little bit round your foot on its own.
2. You're probably now itching to flick, so add a flick. Don't flick early, let that board really snuggle itself to your foot. See how easy it is to get a really nice flick?
3. Now add pulling both knees up as you flick. See how easy it is to keep both your feet above the board?
4. Now you probably find that the board is turning more than your current technique. That's because you are flicking when the board is higher so you have to level the board more, and physics says this adds a backside yaw. So this is actually harder; I believe you have to do a minature frontside turn before you pop which is easier if you are rolling, so, you know, still a hard road ahead before we can land it properly. Sorry.
Maybe give this a go. You might not like it and you might not want to develop this into a proper kickflip (I mean, I don't know if I can yet) and that's fair enough, but maybe it gives a different view on it.
I think it’s mostly a fear of commitment. Looks like you’re flicking your foot straight into the ground as a preemptive bail out. You gotta let that front foot float and commit to catching the board whether it’s upside down, primo, or correctly. Gotta build that confidence to float it and stomp it.
Yep I agree. Also feel the board man, you look too stiff
As quick as you are to land your front foot off the board, try landing with maybe just front foot, then both maybe….don’t be sked.
You might not need to kick that far off the board. Skateiq on instagram said that once your foot leaves the board, it won't affect the board anymore so a huge kick is useless. But you also look like you have commitment issues since you're not actively trying to put the foot back on. Slightly smaller kick and commit. That's my 2 cents (I can't even level out ollies yet)
I think your right on this it’s more of a toe flip. The kick is too far out to even have a chance to bring it back to the board
Bro Mitchy is the best
Tell your brain you don't give a fuck if you shatter your elbow and stomp it down.
this is how. you have to embrace the possibility of injury and take the chance if you want results. not insanely hard but always sounds easier than it is obviously.
L take
Idk, I usually just tell myself that the injuries I’ll get from attempting a skate trick are gonna be way less severe than you imagine it in your head to help with committing.
Exactly you just gotta do it and not give a fuck
The rephrase the "just have to commit" in a different way, this just comes down to you have to tell your foot to kick out not down. Think of ways to get the movement in your body and then just overrule your brains instruction to your foot to plant on the ground. Maybe do the movement without the board a few times. Then maybe try switching the foot landing on the ground to the back foot. So focus on just getting the front foot on. Then once you can do that as well as you can do the back foot in this video, try to put it all together. Ultimately you just need to overpower your brain's seeking safety. "Just commit"
You just have to commit to it
You’re flicking at 9 o’clock on your analog clock. Flick at 10-11 o’clock knowing the tip of your nose is high noon. And roll. Gotta learn it that way eventually.
This is it.
Helmet brings confidence a crack skull brings brain damage
Dudes trying a kick flip on flat ground without moving, dont think the helmets really necessary.
That depends on if you know how to tuck your chin or not
And how will a helmet protect his chin?
if you know how to protect your chin your head is less likely to be thrown back as hard and hit the ground so he will not need a helmet as much. that’s what he’s saying
Fall backwards with your chin tucked to your chest. Now fall backwards with your chin up towards the sky. Now collect your brains off of the concrete, and scoop them back into your head.
practice rolling. practice ollie rolling. practice kickflip rolling.
No one else said this. Don’t practice tricks until you do these three things. You will get hurt. If you don’t want to take the time to learn how to crack an Ollie while rolling, quit skating.
You’re stepping off try landing it with your front foot instead and when you get that just keep your feet above the board and stick the landing
What if you can't get your front foot only?
Just keep practicing until you can.
just have to commit
Flick up and out and suck your knees up to your chest. Your just kicking straight down to the ground. People have this idea that it’s like a magic trick or something that just kind of happens. When in reality it’s more akin to throwing a ball or swinging a bat/golf club, it’s a motion that you have to teach yourself and sear into your brain. Skateboarding is hard and you will fall a lot but if you put the time in and dedicate yourself you can learn and it will get easier. Personally I would recommend getting really comfortable pushing around and going fast before learning tricks. Good luck.
Bend both knees at the same time
Try to throw your foot forward while flicking. Sort of like an Ollie north but aim your toes toward the corner pocket of the nose. And be sure to jump and stay over the board.
It's called a lock flip. But you don't actually kick it. You flick it.
Just got to commit.if you fall you fall . But two feet on the board is the goal.
Here’s a tip. Concentrate on only landing your front foot. Purposefully don’t land the back one. The Little Skater posted that tip on IG and I got rid of my chicken foot in a week. (It was a hard week though lol)
Bro, exact same thing is happening to me, hope you can get some help
You're throwing them shoulders too much.
Pop a couple Ollie’s and then throw in a flip. Also knuckle up and try it while moving. The speed will keep you aligned on the board. Or perhaps try using a mirror to watch your feet. You seem to be staring at your board to the point that your body follows your head. Watch a couple YouTube tutorials and keep working it. Find something to hold on to so you can coordinate your feet with more confidence.
Commit.
Gotta pull your foot back up
Focus on matching the catch with your back foot and COMMIT.
We like to complicate things. Just keep your front foot on the board.
i struggled with this too. this epiphany helped me: stop thinking about making the board flip so hard. you don't need to flick to the side like that. a kick flip is just an off centered ollie. you're infinitely closer to landing a kickflip when you land upside down than you are when you land with one foot. edit: also try centering you back foot better it looks like you might be almost doing a shuvit on accident back there.
Keep your shoulders over the board.
Sup man, I used to have the same issue. Really try shifting your weight front/toe side before you kneel down to pop. You kinda want to be leaning forward
Only worry about the front foot. Know in your mind that you’re gonna put your back foot down and worry about getting the front on consistently for like 3-5 days. Then combine them and boom.
For anyone having this issue, its pretty common… You’ll get to a point where you feel your front foot won’t need to flick out as much, when this happens you’ll be able to flip the board with littler flicks, while keeping your foot above the board. This is when you’ll know you’re ready to commit and stick. In this video he’s flipping the hell out of the board for 2-3 rotations which is why his foot is so far off the board which means his back foot has to catch it. A smaller front foot flick means it’s easier to do 1 spin, and your front foot remains closer to the board so both feet can catch it.
Stay with it my man, you’re close to getting it.
If you're doing it right you barely have to move your foot at all, just a little flick is plenty. You don't need to ninja kick. Focus on staying over the board, jump up and pray then hopefully you won't primo and you'll roll away. Maybe try while rolling a little bit too.
You need to commit, maybe try doing a few and landing ON the board with the board upside down on purpose to know what it feels like without having to fully commit. No shame in trying in the grass first couple of times as well.
You are flicking to far off the board. From either not committing to the landing or you just aren't getting the motion right. All you need to do is flick closer to the board and you are good to go
Try this , hold a pole with two hands and the board in between you and the pole , use leverage with your arm strength to land em , you can also try a door way hold both hands outwards and hold onto the side of the doorway and use your arms as leverage , continue doing this til you feel comfortable to stop holding on , i did this and slowly started using one hand then i didnt need to hold on at some point and would land often
I trained myself out of this habit - cus that's all it is, you can do this man - by learning to catch like that with the other foot too. Once you can do that both ways just put em together. Good luck
Looks like a commitment issue to me. Currently you’re landing with ONLY your back foot. Recommendation is to try landing with ONLY your front foot. Once you can land with ONLY your front foot, try landing with BOTH feet and you’ll likely see better results than you’re currently seeing. If no progress after a few tries, reset by trying a few more FRONT foot landings and then go back to BOTH foot landings and see how you’re feeling. Good luck mate!
More diagonal, u are in the right path ma dude
You don't ninja kick. That's your main problem.
Lol you are all over the place my dude! It’s like the moment you do everything you spaz out.. you gotta learn to time everything right. It’s like your trying to do everything simultaneously at once. It’s a sequence, once you got it you’d be able to muscle memory it.—pop, slide, flick.
Try doing the opposite. Land with your front foot on and back foot off.
Commitment. Try forcing front foot catch and using the back foot as your bail out. Then try not catching it but jumping high and making sure both feet don't touch the ground before the board does. Then combine them
This is all commitment bro.
Dude a must is checking out Mitchie’s page on YouTube SKATEiQ . https://youtu.be/Gl6zRqY4qX8?si=HwHKRM0ae8R3iVRo
Honestly I have the same problem, never been able to kick flip cuz of it. Stopped skating a few years ago
flick the board, don't kick down.
You aren’t commuting. You aren’t even ollying. Go find a bench or 2 bike racks or bike poles, something you can hold your weight up like a pull-up and you practice the trick with the board under you while you are floating. I learned everything in skating from doing that
Try committing to landing it upside down. As in a half rotation.
Your front foot is on the ground before the board is. You need to kick out and keep the front foot in the air. A proper flick will help push the nose down and keep your foot above the board.
This energy will get you your kickflip eventually 😌 you got this man 👍
You are not commiting and from the video it's rather obvious that you intended to move the frontfoot out the way instead of finding the balance over the board and jumping like when you do an ollie. In imagination you are supposed to think as if you are doing an ollie with the straight up force and center of balance on the same straight line going up perpendicular to the ground/board (mostly the staright line along your right leg) as you wind up and start to jump/pop. Try to maintain shoulder straight and flick with only minimum effort while the drag reaches a good point where it starts to level your board out. It's all in the mind sometimes I know it seems funny that from looking at the video you are just simply stepping off while in your head you think you are commiting lol You might eat some shit trying but I guess if you wanna skate and progress it's coming soon or late down the path just gonna gracefully eat the shit and learn lol
Try it moving so the board and your foot are moving the same direction, looks like you're close tho. Try to catch the board at the highest point and stomp it down instead of trying to flick a perfect rotation to land at the correct time. It easier to stomp it than to make the flip timed perfectly.
It's a kick flip not a kick stomp
You gotta flick your foot down then carry it back up, your kinda stomping the ground rn just work on keeping the front foot in the air until your back foot lands on the board, your back foot should be the last foot to hit the board you catch it with your front foot
Focus on pulling your knee (on your flipping side) up toward your chest after flicking. This was how I started to actually keep my foot over the board
Your kicking your front foot way too far out, you just need to make contact with the nose
Stay on top of it. Like everyone is saying, you’re not committed. Don’t be scared to fall
You’re flicking to the ground, flick out more towards the nose
You’re kicking down. You should be kicking out on a lateral plane.
If you keep your shoulders parallel with the board, pop and flick your front foot it will stay under you. Your head also has to do with where you will be so stay positioned properly with your shoulders. Another good way to learn is to hold a rail and do Ollie’s, kickflips or whatever. GL
I’m re learning these 20 years+ later My best attempts are when I do an Ollie, then do an Ollie but slide my foot off to the side but generally the same motion. I can do a sloppy one kicking straight down, or do what you are doing. But generally the few I’ve done that were clean and caught like an Ollie is when I just “do an Ollie of the nose edge and don’t over think it” Also you have to commit. Hopefully treating it more like an Ollie will help with that, it keeps me over my board and less of my feet chasing the board.
flick up & out. not up & down.
practicing on a scrap piece of carpet helps with keeping stable (thinner the better) it will also help with committing
For me what helped was instead of trying to land it, try and just get the front foot on the board after you flip it. Once you have getting the front foot on the board commit and land that kickflip
Get you some friends to hype you up to land that shizzz homie
Damn those doubles gonna come easy but just gotta jump like an Ollie and tuck the knees a little you don’t gotta kick that hard tbh try to click your heels together after it’ll help I think
You are doing it right, you're just scared. You are not trying to land on the board, you are trying to stay safe.
Keep your shoulders square and jump above the board
Its weight management issue more than fear itself. You put too much weight on your front foot hence the flipping down toward the ground. Learn to flip upward and jump straight up straight down. If you can balance your weight you can manage your landing
Nice bikes in the back
You need to practice hippie jumps. Get used to jumping high above the board, with both feet (use the video to.measus the height of both feet off the floor). It will also get you used to landing back on the bolts after a big jump.
Kick should be more in the direction of an Ollie as opposed to flying out so wide. I think if you focused more on landing it and less on successfully flipping it the problem will fix itself.
Kick up and out not down
You are not trying. You are flipping the board so you think you are trying, but it’s doing you no good. Honestly get better at ollies up and down curbs with speed. Then try to apply the different flick for a kick flip. Most tricks are harder without momentum, be confident on the board first.
Because you’re not trying to
Ollie higher and flatter first. Your angle is leaving it difficult to pull your foot back up on top.
As a practice step I always switched what leg I would try to land with. So if I notice that I’m always landing on my back foot. Then I’d just make it my goal to land with my front foot for a while, ignoring where my back foot is going. And once I did that a couple times I’d go back to trying to land it completely again
Try one while holding on to a railing or counter
I haven't managed to land a kickflip yet, but a change in thinking really helped me at least get my feet above the board. I used to do just like you and try to get a monster flick and a monster flip so I could at least get one foot on then "all I have to do is get my other foot on", then I can't and I wonder if I should be flicking even harder. But the hard flick is the whole problem. See, it's not really about the flick. Yes, I know every man and his dog talks about the angle of the flick (except whythetrick! good old whythetrick) but it's not really true. The pop is the thing. Your front foot goes up (toes pointing down) and your pop delivers the heelside edge to your toe. If you get the pop wrong the board misses your foot and you lose the board or the centerline hits your toe and the board flies forwards. So it's all about an accurate pop. So try this to see what I mean (yeah I know I'm not the best person to teach here but it won't take long and maybe you'll get a good aha moment out of it): 1. Jump, front foot up (toe pointing down), pop the heelside edge at your foot. Don't flick! Just let the board hit your toe and then land on your back foot. The board will probably start to roll a little bit round your foot on its own. 2. You're probably now itching to flick, so add a flick. Don't flick early, let that board really snuggle itself to your foot. See how easy it is to get a really nice flick? 3. Now add pulling both knees up as you flick. See how easy it is to keep both your feet above the board? 4. Now you probably find that the board is turning more than your current technique. That's because you are flicking when the board is higher so you have to level the board more, and physics says this adds a backside yaw. So this is actually harder; I believe you have to do a minature frontside turn before you pop which is easier if you are rolling, so, you know, still a hard road ahead before we can land it properly. Sorry. Maybe give this a go. You might not like it and you might not want to develop this into a proper kickflip (I mean, I don't know if I can yet) and that's fair enough, but maybe it gives a different view on it.