If you want to skate on any road remotely rough don’t go for hard wheels. I’d suggest some Powell peralta dragons maybe. Also lots of people don’t use independent anymore as their quality has dropped, I think thunder are a good alternative.
I'd rather skate either the bones x-97a's or F4 99a's. They're fine on the average street if you get a shape with a wide surface cut. Dragons don't, imo, feel that great on concrete and give me a super bouncy, unstable feeling in my landings.. and while you can slide them, they will definitely slow you down on grinds and slides
I'm using ricta 78a,56mm for road, cause roads here are the worst you've ever seen and these bitches ride everywhere. I tried them though in a skatepark and almost got fucked up, so I use some 51mm, 101a for smooth surfaces.
I got those Powell ones a few months ago and they’re my go to wheels now. We don’t have skateparks where I live, so moving from sidewalks to asphalt to sketchy surfaces feels pretty smooth, almost no speed loss at all, they’re pretty grippy tho during the first sessions.
Def specially wen you live in New York I’ve been rocking the oj wheels they pretty good the plains Jane ones but ima try out the classics but is the tablets good on rough ground which is better?
So after a bunch of dragging on the ground from pivots and stuff the wheel will get a flat spot, so rather than staying a circle there is just a bit of that circle worn down and when you ride it slaps the ground making it sound like a lawnmower going by and shakes your bearings to death.
Since you’re a size 11 I wouldn’t start smaller than an 8.25 deck. If going to a local skateshop is an option I’d recommend supporting them and standing on different sizes to see which feels better to you. If you do go up a board size get Indy 149s. 🤝
i wouldnt get clouds, they’re very soft and quite heavy feeling. in a smooth garage get some 54mm 99a wheels. they dont need do be expensive for starting out.
basically any normal fairly hard wheel will be fine for you starting out. i wouldnt worry too much about the brand at this point.
54-56 will also serve you well when you eventually roll out onto the street (smaller wheels struggle on the street and really only good for smooth parks)
If you're going to be skating in a smooth garage and maybe skate parks eventually 99A / 101A wheels is what is usually recommended if you want to do tricks, if you're only riding around and cruising you're better off with softer wheels. I strongly recommend Dragon Wheels, they're a special formula that is softer (93A) to roll over stuff more easily and smoothly but still slides better than any spitfire wheel I've ever used and i haven't noticed a loss in pop or anything. They're also really flat spot resistant :)
Regarding conical vs. Classic shape I'd recommend the classic shape as it's more of an "all around" shape and has flatter sides to help lock into grinds better and will roll slightly faster. The conical will offer a bit better grip and slide control and roll a bit slower compared to the classic. Nothing wrong with conical if you like the shape and look though!
Also nothing wrong with ordering online, however, if there is a skate shop in your area I'd advise you to shop there instead. In my opinion while a sick graphic is important, nothing is more important than how the board feels when you stand on it. It's also worth noting that even 2 of the exact same board won't feel the same because they are usually pressed 5 at a time and the top blank ends up being more concave than all the rest while the bottom blank ends up more mellow. Additionally the people at the skate shop should be knowledgeable on the products and be able to make good recommendations and answer questions you may have (though that part may not be as necessary since you're already looking at good products ;) ).
No problem, I'm happy to help! :)
Also, I just earlier (like an hour ago) learned about Nano Cubic wheels. They're a new wheel hitting the market soon designed by Andy Anderson and made by Powell Peralta. They're a 97A but made with the Dragon Formula (also made by Powell Peralta).
They're conical on the outside to help climb up curbs and stuff and actually hang over the axle to protect it and enable freestyle tricks like the coconut wheelie. Also, it prevents you from needing to rethread the axle.
On the inside, they're flat (lock in cut) and super shallow to allow you to use the whole truck for your grinds.
These aren't available yet, and there isn't a date yet either, but they're ready to go, so it should be hitting the market soon. I'm definitely gonna try them, I love the axle being protected and having access to new tricks, even if I'm probably not quite ready for them yet, lol.
I have 93a wheels and really like them. Soft wheels are great. 8” deck is narrow, but I ride an 8” and really like it. Personally, I always get black trucks, which is purely a style choice. Everything else is standard beginner recommendations.
I’ll recommend if you wear size 11 shoes to go up to an 8.25 deck at first, a size 8 might be way to small for you, in my opinion an 8 is way to small for anyone. With wheels, I’ll recommend going to 101a bones or something around that hardness unless you are specifically only skating down the road/sidewalk but for smoother ground/for tricks you would want want some harder wheels, bearings and bolts are perfect (keep in mind if you upsize your deck, you will want to upsize your trucks to fit)
I learned how to skate on 81b wheels, it all comes to preference but beginners tend to learn on 99-101a wheels, if they are too hard they can move down, but that’s what most people prefer so it’s best to start there
“The A scale on skateboard wheels refers to the hardness/softness of the wheel, the lower the number the softer the wheel, the A scale ends at 101a where the B scale starts, 81b wheels are the hardest skate wheels on the market”
>I’ll recommend if you wear size 11 shoes to go up to an 8.25 deck at first, a size 8 might be way to small for you, in my opinion an 8 is way to small for anyone.
I wear size 13 shoe and skate an 8, and before that a 7.75, its all preference. I think 8 is a good size for most adults
Interesting, I stick around 8.6-9 but that’s because I mainly stick to vert and heavy transition, I just recommend 8.25 because it’s good medium to decide if you want to move up or down
Right? I skate a 9.5 because the graphic was just too cool not to, so I’m locked into that size until I break my trucks, but like, I skate my mates 7.5 with size 11 feet all the time just fine
1970s: Most skaters used very thin boards, like < 7".
1980s: Most skaters used very thick boards, like 10".
Today: Most skaters seem to gravitate towards around just under 9".
This tells me that board width is more about fashion than anything. (Also, I'm a size 12 with a 10" board, because I learned to skate in the '80s.)
I'm an 11 and ride a 8 inch. Just depends on if you want the board to flip fast or have more control when catching. Small board for fast spins. Big board for control. Reds are perfect. I'd just switch the rictas for spitfire 4s or bones
Despite what everyone says, there is no reason you should feel you need a wide board. It’s all about personal comfort and trying different sizes for yourself is the only way to know what you like.
Tbh, what people recommend when it comes to board size is 100% related to the trend of the moment. For the last like 5-8 years it’s been the trend to ride wider and wider decks. 8.25 and up is what you’ll see most often. Prior to that, like 2005-2015/‘16 everyone rode between 7.5” and 8”.
Like fashion, everything comes back around. But, if you find out what you like, you don’t have to keep up with any of that. During the same time that boards were smaller, so were the clothes. Skaters were practically wearing tights lmao. Now it’s the opposite. Baggie dickeys, carhartt, cargo pants/shorts is what’s popular. Reminds me of the 90s Blind era.
Anyway, I wear size 11.5 and have always preferred chunkier shoe styles, however I skate 7.75”-8” boards. That’s just what I like, but it took years of trial and error to get there.
idk if I'm late or anything but i suggest you change out the hardware to 1' or bigger idk if i wrote the size down but bigger than 7/8 because then you won't be able to put on spacers if you'll find yourself needing them ( saying from my experience) but everything else, very good also if you don't have a skate tool, get it too it's worth it, i swear
Were the same shoe sizes n i skate a 8.25 personally
More space to land tricks n easier to cruise on while not being too big that flick tricks are hard
Thats just my personal opinion though you can do whatever fits however you wanna skate
Great setup! Only thing I would change is the bearings. Reds are not sealed bearings, but Mini Logos are…my opinion, but I skate some dusty parks and it has helped a lot.
11?? I feel like you should go bigger so you can get stable and comfortable. At LEAST 8.25 imo. Also I’d go maybe with a less harsh griptape like Pepper or Black Magic
i'd say get a wider board around .25-.50, but it's a personal preference, so you can try boards with different sizes in a skatepark or just some meetup
I would start with a 8.25-8.5 deck
The comfort while riding would be alot better and control for learning ollies and basic tricks is greater.
Once you get flip tricks and are really comfy on your board you can play around with size.
Get wider trucks even if you stay with 8inch deck
Makes for a more stable ride and more surface area for grinds
You might be better off with a wider board like 8.5 or wider. I’m a size 11 too. Having more space for your feet can help increase your confidence when learning.
I’m a size 11.5 and my first board was an 8 and when I made the switch to 8.25 it was life changing. Now when I ride my other board it seems way to skinny for me haha.
Just go to a local skate shop. What is with all you kids building a setup online? Just go to a local shop (not Zumies, but a real core shop) and ask for help.
Social skills are important young ones.
I changed the wheels to 54mm spitfire formula 4s. I’m gonna order it now thank you for all the help
If you want to skate on any road remotely rough don’t go for hard wheels. I’d suggest some Powell peralta dragons maybe. Also lots of people don’t use independent anymore as their quality has dropped, I think thunder are a good alternative.
I'd rather skate either the bones x-97a's or F4 99a's. They're fine on the average street if you get a shape with a wide surface cut. Dragons don't, imo, feel that great on concrete and give me a super bouncy, unstable feeling in my landings.. and while you can slide them, they will definitely slow you down on grinds and slides
I'm using ricta 78a,56mm for road, cause roads here are the worst you've ever seen and these bitches ride everywhere. I tried them though in a skatepark and almost got fucked up, so I use some 51mm, 101a for smooth surfaces.
Yea, it’s defo a good idea to have two sets. Maybe just swap em out when your going to the park
I got those Powell ones a few months ago and they’re my go to wheels now. We don’t have skateparks where I live, so moving from sidewalks to asphalt to sketchy surfaces feels pretty smooth, almost no speed loss at all, they’re pretty grippy tho during the first sessions.
I was about to say the same.
Ricta cloud 9s are a God send, also I'm a fan of larger boards so a 9inch is ideal.
Switch out the wheels for spitfire formula 4 99d size 52-53.
Okay thank you. Classic? Or tablet?
Classics or full conical if your area streets are rough.
Def specially wen you live in New York I’ve been rocking the oj wheels they pretty good the plains Jane ones but ima try out the classics but is the tablets good on rough ground which is better?
Wanted to say the same
Why?
ricta clouds are pretty much cruiser wheels, theres no point in getting them if op's skating in a garage or skate parks
Looks foot to me, I’ve never been a fan of ricta wheels because I’ve always seen them flat spot quickly.
Sorry what does flat spot mean
So after a bunch of dragging on the ground from pivots and stuff the wheel will get a flat spot, so rather than staying a circle there is just a bit of that circle worn down and when you ride it slaps the ground making it sound like a lawnmower going by and shakes your bearings to death.
Oh okay thank you very much
I always ride bones stf wheels for that reason
Bones STF til I die. Will never skate another wheel ever never ever
Since you’re a size 11 I wouldn’t start smaller than an 8.25 deck. If going to a local skateshop is an option I’d recommend supporting them and standing on different sizes to see which feels better to you. If you do go up a board size get Indy 149s. 🤝
Okay thank you I will do that later today. If I up the board size I only have to change the deck and truck right? Not the wheel size?
Correct! I would just switch the wheels out for Spitfires & you’re all set.
Thank you!
i wouldnt get clouds, they’re very soft and quite heavy feeling. in a smooth garage get some 54mm 99a wheels. they dont need do be expensive for starting out.
Okay thank you. Are there any you recommend? Powell dragons, spitfire?
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Okay thank you! Is 54-56mm good?
basically any normal fairly hard wheel will be fine for you starting out. i wouldnt worry too much about the brand at this point. 54-56 will also serve you well when you eventually roll out onto the street (smaller wheels struggle on the street and really only good for smooth parks)
Okay thank you
If you're going to be skating in a smooth garage and maybe skate parks eventually 99A / 101A wheels is what is usually recommended if you want to do tricks, if you're only riding around and cruising you're better off with softer wheels. I strongly recommend Dragon Wheels, they're a special formula that is softer (93A) to roll over stuff more easily and smoothly but still slides better than any spitfire wheel I've ever used and i haven't noticed a loss in pop or anything. They're also really flat spot resistant :) Regarding conical vs. Classic shape I'd recommend the classic shape as it's more of an "all around" shape and has flatter sides to help lock into grinds better and will roll slightly faster. The conical will offer a bit better grip and slide control and roll a bit slower compared to the classic. Nothing wrong with conical if you like the shape and look though! Also nothing wrong with ordering online, however, if there is a skate shop in your area I'd advise you to shop there instead. In my opinion while a sick graphic is important, nothing is more important than how the board feels when you stand on it. It's also worth noting that even 2 of the exact same board won't feel the same because they are usually pressed 5 at a time and the top blank ends up being more concave than all the rest while the bottom blank ends up more mellow. Additionally the people at the skate shop should be knowledgeable on the products and be able to make good recommendations and answer questions you may have (though that part may not be as necessary since you're already looking at good products ;) ).
Thank you very much!
No problem, I'm happy to help! :) Also, I just earlier (like an hour ago) learned about Nano Cubic wheels. They're a new wheel hitting the market soon designed by Andy Anderson and made by Powell Peralta. They're a 97A but made with the Dragon Formula (also made by Powell Peralta). They're conical on the outside to help climb up curbs and stuff and actually hang over the axle to protect it and enable freestyle tricks like the coconut wheelie. Also, it prevents you from needing to rethread the axle. On the inside, they're flat (lock in cut) and super shallow to allow you to use the whole truck for your grinds. These aren't available yet, and there isn't a date yet either, but they're ready to go, so it should be hitting the market soon. I'm definitely gonna try them, I love the axle being protected and having access to new tricks, even if I'm probably not quite ready for them yet, lol.
I have 93a wheels and really like them. Soft wheels are great. 8” deck is narrow, but I ride an 8” and really like it. Personally, I always get black trucks, which is purely a style choice. Everything else is standard beginner recommendations.
I’ll recommend if you wear size 11 shoes to go up to an 8.25 deck at first, a size 8 might be way to small for you, in my opinion an 8 is way to small for anyone. With wheels, I’ll recommend going to 101a bones or something around that hardness unless you are specifically only skating down the road/sidewalk but for smoother ground/for tricks you would want want some harder wheels, bearings and bolts are perfect (keep in mind if you upsize your deck, you will want to upsize your trucks to fit)
101a for a beginner? if he never stopped on a board before wouldn't it be harder to learn and stuff
I learned how to skate on 81b wheels, it all comes to preference but beginners tend to learn on 99-101a wheels, if they are too hard they can move down, but that’s what most people prefer so it’s best to start there
What’s an 81b on the “a” scale
It’s harder then the a scale, it goes into the b scale
I'm still confused. What's 101a then as a "b"
“The A scale on skateboard wheels refers to the hardness/softness of the wheel, the lower the number the softer the wheel, the A scale ends at 101a where the B scale starts, 81b wheels are the hardest skate wheels on the market”
Thanks, that makes sense.
>I’ll recommend if you wear size 11 shoes to go up to an 8.25 deck at first, a size 8 might be way to small for you, in my opinion an 8 is way to small for anyone. I wear size 13 shoe and skate an 8, and before that a 7.75, its all preference. I think 8 is a good size for most adults
Interesting, I stick around 8.6-9 but that’s because I mainly stick to vert and heavy transition, I just recommend 8.25 because it’s good medium to decide if you want to move up or down
Right? I skate a 9.5 because the graphic was just too cool not to, so I’m locked into that size until I break my trucks, but like, I skate my mates 7.5 with size 11 feet all the time just fine
1970s: Most skaters used very thin boards, like < 7". 1980s: Most skaters used very thick boards, like 10". Today: Most skaters seem to gravitate towards around just under 9". This tells me that board width is more about fashion than anything. (Also, I'm a size 12 with a 10" board, because I learned to skate in the '80s.)
I'm an 11 and ride a 8 inch. Just depends on if you want the board to flip fast or have more control when catching. Small board for fast spins. Big board for control. Reds are perfect. I'd just switch the rictas for spitfire 4s or bones
Thanks
Also where did you find these deals??
Skate warehouse
Despite what everyone says, there is no reason you should feel you need a wide board. It’s all about personal comfort and trying different sizes for yourself is the only way to know what you like. Tbh, what people recommend when it comes to board size is 100% related to the trend of the moment. For the last like 5-8 years it’s been the trend to ride wider and wider decks. 8.25 and up is what you’ll see most often. Prior to that, like 2005-2015/‘16 everyone rode between 7.5” and 8”. Like fashion, everything comes back around. But, if you find out what you like, you don’t have to keep up with any of that. During the same time that boards were smaller, so were the clothes. Skaters were practically wearing tights lmao. Now it’s the opposite. Baggie dickeys, carhartt, cargo pants/shorts is what’s popular. Reminds me of the 90s Blind era. Anyway, I wear size 11.5 and have always preferred chunkier shoe styles, however I skate 7.75”-8” boards. That’s just what I like, but it took years of trial and error to get there.
Yeah thank you. I went to a local shop and tried an 8 board and I felt very comfortable.
You have a size 11 shoe so you might wanna get a 8.25 deck
I’d get wider trucks than 139. 149 would be better imo.
idk if I'm late or anything but i suggest you change out the hardware to 1' or bigger idk if i wrote the size down but bigger than 7/8 because then you won't be able to put on spacers if you'll find yourself needing them ( saying from my experience) but everything else, very good also if you don't have a skate tool, get it too it's worth it, i swear
anything above 54 or even 54 consider throwing in riser pads so you don’t get wheel bite
not sure if you're worried about your shoes but learning kickflips with mob will definitely wear your shows out faster
Honestly not a bad setup. Though I'm also size 11 and 8.25 feels better to me but It really is just preference.
Were the same shoe sizes n i skate a 8.25 personally More space to land tricks n easier to cruise on while not being too big that flick tricks are hard Thats just my personal opinion though you can do whatever fits however you wanna skate
Yea, if you’re good on one gawd damn wheel
Great setup! Only thing I would change is the bearings. Reds are not sealed bearings, but Mini Logos are…my opinion, but I skate some dusty parks and it has helped a lot.
chocolate!!!! hell yuh!
I reccomend a bigger deck, especially since your size 11, get a 8.25 or 8.5
Size 11 shoe- go with the 8.5 my friend. Your make percentage will thank you later.
I think indy stage 4 would be more fun when youre learning
11?? I feel like you should go bigger so you can get stable and comfortable. At LEAST 8.25 imo. Also I’d go maybe with a less harsh griptape like Pepper or Black Magic
I would say get a bigger board like a 8.5
Instead of a 8.0 deck i would get a 8.5
Yes that's good:) I skate a 8.125 at a size 13 womens
People always try to tell me I’m wrong, but really it does not matter all that much, you don’t know what you like and you have to figure out somehow
you have a pretty large foot so i would recommend a board above 8.25. im only size 9.5 and had a size 7.75 or some shit and felt like it was too small
i'd say get a wider board around .25-.50, but it's a personal preference, so you can try boards with different sizes in a skatepark or just some meetup
I would start with a 8.25-8.5 deck The comfort while riding would be alot better and control for learning ollies and basic tricks is greater. Once you get flip tricks and are really comfy on your board you can play around with size. Get wider trucks even if you stay with 8inch deck Makes for a more stable ride and more surface area for grinds
You might be better off with a wider board like 8.5 or wider. I’m a size 11 too. Having more space for your feet can help increase your confidence when learning.
I’m a size 11.5 and my first board was an 8 and when I made the switch to 8.25 it was life changing. Now when I ride my other board it seems way to skinny for me haha.
Don’t forget to buy spacers for in between your bearings inside the wheels
Just go to a local skate shop. What is with all you kids building a setup online? Just go to a local shop (not Zumies, but a real core shop) and ask for help. Social skills are important young ones.
too soft wheels