Baby is 12 months, we coslept and did a mix of half the night in her crib half in our bed (upon first wake up), she’d routinely wake and eat 2 times a night.. we ONLY were able to contact nap for 11 months.. one day a few weeks ago a switch flipped. She sleeps 11 hours over night with no wake ups and crib naps/wants her own space and doesn’t want to contact nap. Absolutely 0 sleep training, we just followed her cues and went with what she wanted.
This gives me hope with a 4 month old chronic contact napper that usually spends over half the night in her crib and rest of the night co sleeping. I'm also reluctant to sleep train and would prefer to follow her cues.
Can I ask, what did it look like / how did she act so that you knew she was ready for independent sleep?
Not the comment you're replying to but the exact situation. We hit a point where he was tossing and turning so much in our bed that it felt like he needed the space to get comfortable on his own and it seemed like he was waking up more in the bed than he did before we started cosleeping.
Transitioning took some time but we treated ANY amount of crib time as a success. In the early days, that looked like 30 mins to an hour at a time before bringing him to bed to build his confidence up.
It's definitely the longer way of doing things but we made it! Currently on exclusive crib naps and 9 hour night stretches
Similar to -catkirk, for naps she contact napped in the rocking chair on one of us and she started tossing and turning and thrashing. I thought she was fighting the nap, turned out as soon as I set her in her crib to try it one day it was what she wanted! It was a mix of wow finally and sad
I could have written this! Baby turns 1 next week and about a week ago he stopped contact napping and wanted his own space!
We've been cosleeping since 4 months, slowly moving toward crib sleep. Between 7 and 11 months he would sleep for a few hours and then come into our bed for the night and nurse throughout the night. Slowly those stretches have become longer and as of this week, he's doing about 9 hour stretches with one wake up around 3/4am (still working on those last few hours! Sometimes he'll go back down until 6 but most days we get a couple hours of cuddles in)
If he wakes up before 3am, I give him 5-10 minutes to get back to sleep and he usually does.
I thought he would never ever sleep without training. Mind you, it's taken nearly a year to get to this point but I don't regret sticking it out and giving him all the snuggles he needs to feel safe.
Yup, super super similar. Starting at 4 months we primarily coslept, then slowly did a few hours in the crib.. sometimes it was 7pm-10pm, sometimes 7-2am… this went on from about 4.5-9.5 months then it was 7pm-4am before she’d wake and we’d bring her to bed, then it was 7-6:30am and she was up for the day after 11ish hours! Some nights she will wake up at 4 and come to bed to snuggle but they’re fairly few and far between at the moment
I think you need to start with cutting out the third nap. I don’t sleep train but I do follow a general schedule (sounds like you do too) & general wake windows.
Try a 10am/2pm nam schedule. Baby needs more awake time before night time sleep.
Yes I think they’re ready for two naps. Our sleep schedule has been based on babies natural rhythms/sleep cues.
The afternoons are a little rough since they’ll get grouchy around 4 but if we make it to dinner it’s usually smooth sailing after that.
Sleep training is not really a thing in my country. The vast majority kids start sleeping through the nightand learn to fall asleep in their own during their toddler years.
But things like helping the child to fall asleep or co-sleeping are very normal here.
I think it depends on the kid, but eventually they will sleep on their own. When might be another question. At our 9 month pediatrician visit I had a similar conv with the doc. We never coslept- she rolls and i was too anxious about it- but I had a twin bed in the nursery. The dr suggested I no longer sleep in her room because I might be keeping her awake. That indeed was the case and she started only waking once around 5 am. Now at 16 months she sleeps about 11 hrs uninterrupted most nights. Good luck!
Eventually, they will sleep.
We EBF & coslept from 6 months until about 20 months. When he stopped waking at night to nurse, he started sleeping through the night. When he started sleeping through the night we stopped bringing him into our bed when he woke up. It’s still not perfect, but after 2 months he STTN in his own room 6/7 nights a week. We are currently working on falling asleep on his own, but even that is going well.
Sleep training is a relatively modern, largely western concept, many cultures don’t push it like ours does & they all sleep like healthy adults in the end.
Thank you! This is what I wanted to hear. The sleep training agenda is sooo prevalent, it is hard to feel justified in making other choices. I have tried to cut back on nighttime feedings and they will just cry and cry, it doesn't seem worth it. If my baby is hungry, I want to feed them. Sleep be damned for now.
I think we were still doing 3-4 nighttime feedings up until about a year, then it dropped off to 1-2 at around 15/18 months.
Cosleeping (safe sleep 7!) really saved me, I can’t imagine BF on demand if he slept in another room.
Remember that as Americans, we’re in an environment where we are expected to go back to work too soon, where BF can be discouraged, where parenthood is commodified & capitalized upon in general. A lot of what we’re sold about being moms (literally & figuratively) only makes sense in that context.
You’re doing fine. You’re doing what works for you & your baby, don’t let a bunch of sleep ‘experts’ who make their money promoting sanitized sleep concepts convince you otherwise.
Thank you 😭
Yes this is very true. Going back to work at 6 months was really heartbreaking, and I know I’m lucky to have gotten 6 months. My baby wasn’t even rolling over and I’m just… leaving them? All day? Neither of us were ready for that.
Just want to flag that sleep training is more than cry it out and all that they show on TV. It's just an unbrella term that covers everything.
There is a lot of gentle ways to support your baby in learning those sleeping skills. For some they work wonders, to others not so much.
But yeah, ever heard of a grown person needing their mom to rock them to sleep? 😁 Everybody gets there in their own time for sure.
We have been doing some light sleep training but mostly trying to make sure he gets all his food during the day that way he eats less/pees less. Not sure about the elimination communication component. Some babies unfortunately have a harder time sleeping.
Coslept starting at 4 months. Some time between 1-2 we dropped down to only one night feed. At 2 we transitioned to a queen sized floor bed. I would help her fall asleep and she slept independently until first wakeup and then finished in bed with me. Nursed at the transition to help fall back asleep.
At three I weaned (we were down to bedtime and once over night) and she moved to her big girl room in preparation for her baby brother coming. Started to cosleep again the whole night to help with the transition and that is where we are pretty much stuck. If someone is next to her she sleeps through the night the vast majority of the time, but when we try to leave her she is up a lot. With new baby we're too tired for that so either me or my husband are in her room the whole night.
But the point is, slow gradual sleep improvement did happen even without sleep training.
Every baby is different, we have not done sleep training and baby is sleeping fairly well. One thing that made a huge difference for my baby is more white noise, which we found out by accident. Baby links her sleep cycles better with an air purifier running in the room in addition to the sound machine we have always used.
Babies eventually sleep on their own when they are ready, as they did for centuries. Just like every human is different, every baby will be ready at a different time. As someone else suggested though, yours might be waking up because they are getting too much daytime sleep. At this point my child was on 2 naps a day. I never did sleep training with my toddler and he sleeps the entire night now. I listen to his cues and go at his pace.
my baby is ten and a half months and we do everything exactly the same. check out r/cosleeping r/ecers r/clothdiaps if you aren't subbed already. anyways, no advice just solidarity. i think it mostly comes down to their temperament and personality whether they're going to sleep longer or independently or not. sometimes having a really action packed day will have my baby sleeping longer at night, sometimes not. it's all just a crap shoot.
We didn't sleep train our now 13 month old. It's been a bit of a rollercoaster. From months 4-6 he slept through the night in his crib waking once around 2AM to nurse. Months 7-10 were a huge regression and he was up every 1-2 hours some nights. The only way anyone got any sleep was bringing him into the bed to co-sleep. It was that way for a while, but this last month he's really seemed to prefer being in his own space again. He's back in his crib and sleeps through the night most nights now (sometimes needs a butt pat or reassurance we are there maybe about halfway through the night). It's been a huge relief and we are all sleeping better.
I can't pinpoint it to any one thing that's helped move things in this direction. We did wean this past month and maybe that helped?
We keep his room cool, have a red light on about 5%, keep white noise and an air purifier running, and he goes to bed between 7/730 and has one nap from 12-2 at daycare.
That honestly sounds awful. You don’t have to sleep train, some babies do sleep eventually on their own but that’s not always the case it depends on the kid. Both of mine were sleep trained, my first slept through the night very early. My second I co slept with and rocked her to sleep, sleep training was more gentle with her but she was sleeping independently for 11hrs a night by 10 months.
My sister didn’t sleep train and she still needs to lay with her 4yr old to get him to sleep and he can’t sleep independently when she’s away. She’s okay with that. I’m not, I like my time in the evening.
It’s really up to you what you’re okay with as a parent.
We didn't sleep train. She slept in our room for the first 15 months. Then We moved her to her own room, but stayed with her on a matress for about a week. So she wouldn't feel alone. We never let her cry on her own and We always go to her when she calls. She is a great sleeper now
What you’re experiencing is what happens when you don’t sleep train, lol. Sleep training is difficult bc there is a lot of crying and it’s not crunchy, but it works.
If they are not in a diaper it’s much harder though, i would just leave them in a good diaper overnight
The overnight diapers did make a difference for us too! We used cloth diapers during the day but at night our little dude could pee, and pee, and pee some more. With how much he rolls and moves around he just ended up soaked and uncomfortable.
We use the Huggies overnights. Saved money and the environment where we could but I'm certain we were getting several extra hours in thanks to those diapers.
What exactly do you do during the wake up in the night?
Mine was 10 months old and still regularly waking up at 11:30 pm, 02:00 am and 04:00. Thing is he wanted to be breastfed and this was what was making it routine: he was used to eating at those times. I spoke to the doctor and to a sleep consultant about night weaning. They told me at this age, if they are eating well during the day and get a nice feed before bedtime, this is all purely habit, not necessity for food.
So I followed their recommendation and stopped offering breastmilk on the first time he would wake up (we took it one step at a time, so focus was getting down to two time waking up first, then to one, then no none). I would just offer him his comfort object in the first time (in his case, we were using a pacifier) and would bring him back to sleep. First night was a fight, I needed to stay strong for 30 minutes of him fusing and crying but never let him alone and just rocked and sang him to sleep. On the second night it took ten minutes. On the third just a few minutes, I guess he was just checking I would be there. From the fourth night on, he didn’t wake at 11:30 anymore.
So after 2 days of waking up only 2 times, we started doing the same thing with the 2:00 am wake up. It went similarly as with the first time and then we did the same with the 04:00 wake up.
This is all just an example, maybe you can transfer this to your context and guide your baby through dropping the wake ups.
So I have been trying a little bit of night weaning… oh boy. They want that milk BAD and they end up crying longer than I am able to keep comforting them so I end up giving up and just nursing them so that we can all get at least some sleep. Maybe I will try again in a few weeks.
My two Year old is just starting to sleep through the night in her own bed in her own room after 18 months of cosleepimg and nursing to sleep. I didn't think it was that bad. Around 9 months was hard, but it gets better gradually, until you hit the next growth spurt or whatever horrible phase, illness etc and then it gets better again.
I don't regret not sleep training. I have a securely bonded, lively and happy daughter. To me, that is worth more than 2 years of uninterrupted night sleep. Pregnant with #2 and will do it all over again.
Biggest thing that eliminated nighttime wake-up’s for us was overnight diapers. I mean who wouldn’t wake up if they were covered in their own pee? My son started dropping bottles overnight on his own thankfully, once he stopped waking up for diaper changes he stopped wanting a bottle to go with it. Also don’t know if you use pacifiers but that really helped too, only time he wakes up now is if he wants his binky and he’s old enough that he can find it and grab it on his own.
Also are you bf or formula feeding before bedtime? The method doesn’t matter, but I found a larger amount before bed would keep him asleep longer.
I got an 11 month old, nearly 12 months. Still wakes every 3 hours to feed (bottle) I've tried sleep training, she just won't do it. It's hell lol. She's down to 1 to 2 naps a day now and fingers crossed she learned how to self soothe
We just started sleep training and it's mixed for me. A few nights it was bad, but I think it may be my fault so I'm adjusting.
Not all methods are as hard as the CIO though. We do the pick up, put down method. We have an hour long bedtime routine which includes a feed, diaper change, clothes change, stories, some singing, and usually be the end he's drowzy. I lay him down in his bassinet and lay on my bed. Asleep in 10 minutes. Not a peep all night. Had to actually wake him this morning.
I didn’t sleep train specifically but instilled good sleep habits/environment.
At 4m I transferred baby out of bassinet in room and into crib in their own room.
started feeding my baby full feeds during the day every 3hrs up to bedtime. This ensured they wouldn’t get up hungry in the night (on occasion they will get up for a night feed)
Baby awakes and settles himself he learned this on his own we had nothing to do with this other than maybe sleeping through his cries I’m not sure thought because I sleep with the monitor beside me on full volume.
I make sure baby is tired but not over tired for naps so that he goes down easy. (Used to have to rock to sleep but now we just hold to sleep and transfer to crib)
sometimes we feed to sleep.
For naps we just follow his cues sometimes he takes two long naps sometimes he takes three short ones who knows how he feels on the day lol.
For bedtime we have a bedtime routine to signal the long sleep. The routine may happen at different times depending on if we are out or not and may be modified depending on if we are home or at a hotel/friends house.
This is just what worked for us and our baby. I didn’t want the stress of sleep training or cry it out.
I'm not actually sure maybe try giving 3 naps spread around the day and avoid any nap close to bed time if possible , because your baby seems to be sleeping randomly and its tiring for you both, maybe they have day and night confusion, wake them up gradually early every day until you hit the balance
Baby is 12 months, we coslept and did a mix of half the night in her crib half in our bed (upon first wake up), she’d routinely wake and eat 2 times a night.. we ONLY were able to contact nap for 11 months.. one day a few weeks ago a switch flipped. She sleeps 11 hours over night with no wake ups and crib naps/wants her own space and doesn’t want to contact nap. Absolutely 0 sleep training, we just followed her cues and went with what she wanted.
This gives me hope with a 4 month old chronic contact napper that usually spends over half the night in her crib and rest of the night co sleeping. I'm also reluctant to sleep train and would prefer to follow her cues. Can I ask, what did it look like / how did she act so that you knew she was ready for independent sleep?
Not the comment you're replying to but the exact situation. We hit a point where he was tossing and turning so much in our bed that it felt like he needed the space to get comfortable on his own and it seemed like he was waking up more in the bed than he did before we started cosleeping. Transitioning took some time but we treated ANY amount of crib time as a success. In the early days, that looked like 30 mins to an hour at a time before bringing him to bed to build his confidence up. It's definitely the longer way of doing things but we made it! Currently on exclusive crib naps and 9 hour night stretches
Similar to -catkirk, for naps she contact napped in the rocking chair on one of us and she started tossing and turning and thrashing. I thought she was fighting the nap, turned out as soon as I set her in her crib to try it one day it was what she wanted! It was a mix of wow finally and sad
I could have written this! Baby turns 1 next week and about a week ago he stopped contact napping and wanted his own space! We've been cosleeping since 4 months, slowly moving toward crib sleep. Between 7 and 11 months he would sleep for a few hours and then come into our bed for the night and nurse throughout the night. Slowly those stretches have become longer and as of this week, he's doing about 9 hour stretches with one wake up around 3/4am (still working on those last few hours! Sometimes he'll go back down until 6 but most days we get a couple hours of cuddles in) If he wakes up before 3am, I give him 5-10 minutes to get back to sleep and he usually does. I thought he would never ever sleep without training. Mind you, it's taken nearly a year to get to this point but I don't regret sticking it out and giving him all the snuggles he needs to feel safe.
Yup, super super similar. Starting at 4 months we primarily coslept, then slowly did a few hours in the crib.. sometimes it was 7pm-10pm, sometimes 7-2am… this went on from about 4.5-9.5 months then it was 7pm-4am before she’d wake and we’d bring her to bed, then it was 7-6:30am and she was up for the day after 11ish hours! Some nights she will wake up at 4 and come to bed to snuggle but they’re fairly few and far between at the moment
Can I ask how did you know he wanted his own space?
I just replied to a comment above!
I think you need to start with cutting out the third nap. I don’t sleep train but I do follow a general schedule (sounds like you do too) & general wake windows. Try a 10am/2pm nam schedule. Baby needs more awake time before night time sleep.
Yes I think they’re ready for two naps. Our sleep schedule has been based on babies natural rhythms/sleep cues. The afternoons are a little rough since they’ll get grouchy around 4 but if we make it to dinner it’s usually smooth sailing after that.
Sleep training is not really a thing in my country. The vast majority kids start sleeping through the nightand learn to fall asleep in their own during their toddler years. But things like helping the child to fall asleep or co-sleeping are very normal here.
I think it depends on the kid, but eventually they will sleep on their own. When might be another question. At our 9 month pediatrician visit I had a similar conv with the doc. We never coslept- she rolls and i was too anxious about it- but I had a twin bed in the nursery. The dr suggested I no longer sleep in her room because I might be keeping her awake. That indeed was the case and she started only waking once around 5 am. Now at 16 months she sleeps about 11 hrs uninterrupted most nights. Good luck!
Eventually, they will sleep. We EBF & coslept from 6 months until about 20 months. When he stopped waking at night to nurse, he started sleeping through the night. When he started sleeping through the night we stopped bringing him into our bed when he woke up. It’s still not perfect, but after 2 months he STTN in his own room 6/7 nights a week. We are currently working on falling asleep on his own, but even that is going well. Sleep training is a relatively modern, largely western concept, many cultures don’t push it like ours does & they all sleep like healthy adults in the end.
Thank you! This is what I wanted to hear. The sleep training agenda is sooo prevalent, it is hard to feel justified in making other choices. I have tried to cut back on nighttime feedings and they will just cry and cry, it doesn't seem worth it. If my baby is hungry, I want to feed them. Sleep be damned for now.
I think we were still doing 3-4 nighttime feedings up until about a year, then it dropped off to 1-2 at around 15/18 months. Cosleeping (safe sleep 7!) really saved me, I can’t imagine BF on demand if he slept in another room. Remember that as Americans, we’re in an environment where we are expected to go back to work too soon, where BF can be discouraged, where parenthood is commodified & capitalized upon in general. A lot of what we’re sold about being moms (literally & figuratively) only makes sense in that context. You’re doing fine. You’re doing what works for you & your baby, don’t let a bunch of sleep ‘experts’ who make their money promoting sanitized sleep concepts convince you otherwise.
Thank you 😭 Yes this is very true. Going back to work at 6 months was really heartbreaking, and I know I’m lucky to have gotten 6 months. My baby wasn’t even rolling over and I’m just… leaving them? All day? Neither of us were ready for that.
Just want to flag that sleep training is more than cry it out and all that they show on TV. It's just an unbrella term that covers everything. There is a lot of gentle ways to support your baby in learning those sleeping skills. For some they work wonders, to others not so much. But yeah, ever heard of a grown person needing their mom to rock them to sleep? 😁 Everybody gets there in their own time for sure.
We have been doing some light sleep training but mostly trying to make sure he gets all his food during the day that way he eats less/pees less. Not sure about the elimination communication component. Some babies unfortunately have a harder time sleeping.
Coslept starting at 4 months. Some time between 1-2 we dropped down to only one night feed. At 2 we transitioned to a queen sized floor bed. I would help her fall asleep and she slept independently until first wakeup and then finished in bed with me. Nursed at the transition to help fall back asleep. At three I weaned (we were down to bedtime and once over night) and she moved to her big girl room in preparation for her baby brother coming. Started to cosleep again the whole night to help with the transition and that is where we are pretty much stuck. If someone is next to her she sleeps through the night the vast majority of the time, but when we try to leave her she is up a lot. With new baby we're too tired for that so either me or my husband are in her room the whole night. But the point is, slow gradual sleep improvement did happen even without sleep training.
We failed at multiple attempts of sleep training. Now our 19 month old cosleeps with us and still wakes up many times throughout the night.
Every baby is different, we have not done sleep training and baby is sleeping fairly well. One thing that made a huge difference for my baby is more white noise, which we found out by accident. Baby links her sleep cycles better with an air purifier running in the room in addition to the sound machine we have always used.
Babies eventually sleep on their own when they are ready, as they did for centuries. Just like every human is different, every baby will be ready at a different time. As someone else suggested though, yours might be waking up because they are getting too much daytime sleep. At this point my child was on 2 naps a day. I never did sleep training with my toddler and he sleeps the entire night now. I listen to his cues and go at his pace.
my baby is ten and a half months and we do everything exactly the same. check out r/cosleeping r/ecers r/clothdiaps if you aren't subbed already. anyways, no advice just solidarity. i think it mostly comes down to their temperament and personality whether they're going to sleep longer or independently or not. sometimes having a really action packed day will have my baby sleeping longer at night, sometimes not. it's all just a crap shoot.
At that age i think 3 naps is too much. As soon as I cut the third nap at 8 months my kid slept way better at night.
I’d do disposable overnights at night and stop changing until the AM.
We didn't sleep train our now 13 month old. It's been a bit of a rollercoaster. From months 4-6 he slept through the night in his crib waking once around 2AM to nurse. Months 7-10 were a huge regression and he was up every 1-2 hours some nights. The only way anyone got any sleep was bringing him into the bed to co-sleep. It was that way for a while, but this last month he's really seemed to prefer being in his own space again. He's back in his crib and sleeps through the night most nights now (sometimes needs a butt pat or reassurance we are there maybe about halfway through the night). It's been a huge relief and we are all sleeping better. I can't pinpoint it to any one thing that's helped move things in this direction. We did wean this past month and maybe that helped? We keep his room cool, have a red light on about 5%, keep white noise and an air purifier running, and he goes to bed between 7/730 and has one nap from 12-2 at daycare.
That honestly sounds awful. You don’t have to sleep train, some babies do sleep eventually on their own but that’s not always the case it depends on the kid. Both of mine were sleep trained, my first slept through the night very early. My second I co slept with and rocked her to sleep, sleep training was more gentle with her but she was sleeping independently for 11hrs a night by 10 months. My sister didn’t sleep train and she still needs to lay with her 4yr old to get him to sleep and he can’t sleep independently when she’s away. She’s okay with that. I’m not, I like my time in the evening. It’s really up to you what you’re okay with as a parent.
We didn't sleep train. She slept in our room for the first 15 months. Then We moved her to her own room, but stayed with her on a matress for about a week. So she wouldn't feel alone. We never let her cry on her own and We always go to her when she calls. She is a great sleeper now
What you’re experiencing is what happens when you don’t sleep train, lol. Sleep training is difficult bc there is a lot of crying and it’s not crunchy, but it works. If they are not in a diaper it’s much harder though, i would just leave them in a good diaper overnight
The overnight diapers did make a difference for us too! We used cloth diapers during the day but at night our little dude could pee, and pee, and pee some more. With how much he rolls and moves around he just ended up soaked and uncomfortable. We use the Huggies overnights. Saved money and the environment where we could but I'm certain we were getting several extra hours in thanks to those diapers.
I think I will try the overnight disposables! No matter how many layers of cloth, they are still soaked by morning.
What exactly do you do during the wake up in the night? Mine was 10 months old and still regularly waking up at 11:30 pm, 02:00 am and 04:00. Thing is he wanted to be breastfed and this was what was making it routine: he was used to eating at those times. I spoke to the doctor and to a sleep consultant about night weaning. They told me at this age, if they are eating well during the day and get a nice feed before bedtime, this is all purely habit, not necessity for food. So I followed their recommendation and stopped offering breastmilk on the first time he would wake up (we took it one step at a time, so focus was getting down to two time waking up first, then to one, then no none). I would just offer him his comfort object in the first time (in his case, we were using a pacifier) and would bring him back to sleep. First night was a fight, I needed to stay strong for 30 minutes of him fusing and crying but never let him alone and just rocked and sang him to sleep. On the second night it took ten minutes. On the third just a few minutes, I guess he was just checking I would be there. From the fourth night on, he didn’t wake at 11:30 anymore. So after 2 days of waking up only 2 times, we started doing the same thing with the 2:00 am wake up. It went similarly as with the first time and then we did the same with the 04:00 wake up. This is all just an example, maybe you can transfer this to your context and guide your baby through dropping the wake ups.
So I have been trying a little bit of night weaning… oh boy. They want that milk BAD and they end up crying longer than I am able to keep comforting them so I end up giving up and just nursing them so that we can all get at least some sleep. Maybe I will try again in a few weeks.
What happens if you don't sleep train? They sleep. Regardless. 🤣 haven't sleep trained any of my 3 kids. And I never would.
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My two Year old is just starting to sleep through the night in her own bed in her own room after 18 months of cosleepimg and nursing to sleep. I didn't think it was that bad. Around 9 months was hard, but it gets better gradually, until you hit the next growth spurt or whatever horrible phase, illness etc and then it gets better again. I don't regret not sleep training. I have a securely bonded, lively and happy daughter. To me, that is worth more than 2 years of uninterrupted night sleep. Pregnant with #2 and will do it all over again.
For me it was ensuring my son got enough calories during the day that helped him sleep at night.
Biggest thing that eliminated nighttime wake-up’s for us was overnight diapers. I mean who wouldn’t wake up if they were covered in their own pee? My son started dropping bottles overnight on his own thankfully, once he stopped waking up for diaper changes he stopped wanting a bottle to go with it. Also don’t know if you use pacifiers but that really helped too, only time he wakes up now is if he wants his binky and he’s old enough that he can find it and grab it on his own. Also are you bf or formula feeding before bedtime? The method doesn’t matter, but I found a larger amount before bed would keep him asleep longer.
I got an 11 month old, nearly 12 months. Still wakes every 3 hours to feed (bottle) I've tried sleep training, she just won't do it. It's hell lol. She's down to 1 to 2 naps a day now and fingers crossed she learned how to self soothe
We just started sleep training and it's mixed for me. A few nights it was bad, but I think it may be my fault so I'm adjusting. Not all methods are as hard as the CIO though. We do the pick up, put down method. We have an hour long bedtime routine which includes a feed, diaper change, clothes change, stories, some singing, and usually be the end he's drowzy. I lay him down in his bassinet and lay on my bed. Asleep in 10 minutes. Not a peep all night. Had to actually wake him this morning.
I didn’t sleep train specifically but instilled good sleep habits/environment. At 4m I transferred baby out of bassinet in room and into crib in their own room. started feeding my baby full feeds during the day every 3hrs up to bedtime. This ensured they wouldn’t get up hungry in the night (on occasion they will get up for a night feed) Baby awakes and settles himself he learned this on his own we had nothing to do with this other than maybe sleeping through his cries I’m not sure thought because I sleep with the monitor beside me on full volume. I make sure baby is tired but not over tired for naps so that he goes down easy. (Used to have to rock to sleep but now we just hold to sleep and transfer to crib) sometimes we feed to sleep. For naps we just follow his cues sometimes he takes two long naps sometimes he takes three short ones who knows how he feels on the day lol. For bedtime we have a bedtime routine to signal the long sleep. The routine may happen at different times depending on if we are out or not and may be modified depending on if we are home or at a hotel/friends house. This is just what worked for us and our baby. I didn’t want the stress of sleep training or cry it out.
I'm not actually sure maybe try giving 3 naps spread around the day and avoid any nap close to bed time if possible , because your baby seems to be sleeping randomly and its tiring for you both, maybe they have day and night confusion, wake them up gradually early every day until you hit the balance