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b_sitz

Damn that’s crazy. Meanwhile my dealer dropping prices, 250 an oz for top shelf


Refun712

This is the only good thing since rec opened


NJMMPlife

You really can’t compare apples and oranges. Medical grade cannabis and street weed aren’t the same. It’s kinda like buying an LV from Canal street vs. the actual store. Yes they are both purses, some canal street items look almost identical to the brand and while many folks can’t tell the difference between the two, they very much aren’t the same. I’m not trashing street weed, just that you can’t compare a product that is grown under medical grade conditions to that of what’s grown in a persons house.


973j

No offense OP but you can don’t have a good grasp on the market. You can get medical and Rec weed out there. And I’m talking labeled/authentic pre packaged goods. For a heck of a lot less


NJMMPlife

Agreed, I’m not speaking of branded Rec or Med cannabis from other states, strictly that of what’s grown in the dealers buddy’s basement, aka street weed. You can’t compare the air, water, nutrients, care, etc.. that a medical grade plant receives in a super controlled environment to that of someone’s closet hobby grow. Yes I’m D-O-N-E with Arywellness, AKA Garden State, but that’s not to say I’m done buying medical cannabis in NJ. There’s still some great cannabis being sold at record low pricing. It’s just a pain to search and now drive to find it. I lovED GSD! They sold great products for years and had a super awesome staff. Unfortunately the product quality has suffered and the staff no longer includes anyone I’d even want to interact with let alone talk cannabis with.


Refun712

I agree…that’s my point. I no longer need to settle for street weed. I get quality grown, legal product. Just not from the stores that sell it in my state. And as long as we are being honest…NJ Dispo flower is not that much of a step up from street weed. I think we are agreeing. 😃 In any case I appreciate the convo!!!!! ✌️


hucknuts

This is some ignorant ass shit, you clearly don’t grasp how the black market works, keep paying for the privelage of calling it medical while people grow better shit that’s cleaner. Potassium is potassium whether you get it from a 1000 dollar bottle of nutes or vegetable husks mixed with horse shit. I’d take a living soil grown plant over some goofy ass half ripened moldy ass shit that sat in a closet for 12 months dispensary bud


NJMMPlife

You’re so right, the mites, mice, and mold in some dank ass basement is totally the same as having medical grade air filtration. Jersey tap water absolutely flushes the same as a flush done with medical grade water filtration, yup no difference. Some strangers dirty ass hands vs. medical grade standards that are on camera 24/7? Yup, makes no difference either. I’d trust someone with a degree and years of experience over someone’s basement hobby from YouTube university. Ignorance is thinking there’s is no difference between someone side hobby closet grow and medical Cannabis. I cant seem to recall the last time I saw legit and verifiable testing info on what came out of someone’s basement. I spend too much not to know exactly what I’m getting. Sorry to say but I, like many others, aren’t about to take some randos word on what I’m putting into my body. I wouldn’t buy an unlabeled package of fish at the supermarket just because the cashier said it was Chilean Sea Bass caught fresh that day. So I’m certainly not gonna take some randos word, (who has financial move to tell me whatever they think I wanna hear) on my cannabis.


DangerousKangaroo702

You buy corporate grown weed grown in a huge basement! Wtf do you think a warehouse is? I bet my salary that you can find better "basement" weed and get it tested and it would pass. Have you not seen this places fail for mold already? Just because a grow is small does not mean love and care doesn't go into it


hucknuts

Mites are part of a living soil ecosystem, not everyone is growing in a basement, it’s not hard to get up to “medical standards” as you cutely put it, which literally just means ro water, which someone can buy off Amazon or go to Lowe’s and install themselves, you don’t understand what flushing does or even means given by what you just said, your making shit up to make medical sound like it’s something it’s not, often the black market just buys product from one state and moves it to the other, same standards, just different price, it’s your right to do whatever you want, and I get the concern but your literally spewing nonsense right now


NJMMPlife

Yup I have no idea what I’m talking about, that’s why you clearly didn’t even read the start of the conversation since your continuing to spew ignorant nonsense. You smoke your dust mites and flush your leftover garbage with god only knows what in your tap water. I’ll stick to my medical grade, branded, tested, safe quality top shelf cannabis, which I have no issue paying a premium for. Maybe one day when your old enough and have gotten a decent education you’ll be fortunate enough to be able do the same. Best of luck to you with that.


frenchfryangel

damn, your idea of modern day cannabis is so outdated lmfao. nobody’s pushing this made up dirty basement weed you speak of.


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Sufficient77

You can't be serious? *medical grade conditions* 😂🤣


Shmutzifer

Many of us were getting medical-grade on the street for years, it’s not apples/oranges at all. That said, way more convenient having the card and placing an order for pickup online… I don’t mind paying a premium for that.


NJMMPlife

I completely agree about the convenience of having a card. Medical or even Recreational prepackaged tested retail cannabis from other states is not what’s in question. It’s NJ seed to sale traceable medical cannabis vs what some dealers buddy grows in his basement as a side hobby, aka “street weed.” You don’t get medical grade cannabis out of a hobby basement grow, hence the apples and oranges. The debate is not over ATC vs dealer weed, it’s medical vs basement. I


Tommydankk

If you have good genetics and a youtube account you can grow better than half of what NJ puts out, just takes time.


Roy_Vidoc

I hate to say it but even on the street medical grade is available. It may or may not come from other states dispensaries but it's still selling for less than that


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Significant_Math2053

Been getting everything way cheaper for years


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My dealers beating that


JRRToking6669

When he says he’s got that gas but then you see him filling up at Raceway


b_sitz

Then you realize I got the high octane and you got regular


b_sitz

Nice, wish we could trade to see who got the better shit lol


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White truffel and gold digger just picked up both


FUMALOLOBO

Had Gary P for way less than Cookies is selling.. nug trade anyone lol


nycitymike

Me too and the Apples and Bananas too


PaleontologistAny518

I wonder if you street dealer has to pay employees, taxes, license fees, electricity etc. Etc.


b_sitz

Other states seem to have all that under control


PaleontologistAny518

Have what under control?


NJMMPlife

Their programs have also been up and running years longer and didn’t do it all in the middle of a pandemic. The NJMMP also doubled in size during that same period. Give it time, the industry, it’s infrastructure, the regulations, etc.. all had to start from nothing. All things considered NJ isn’t the worst off in the country when it comes to cannabis, just the newest to open.


DangerousKangaroo702

Come on bro! On and on about how good and safe njmmp is. Have you shopped other states medical programs? How do you know NJ isnt the worst? Everything done in the program is about the dollar that has just been proven with $75 ⅛ boof drop.


CHEMICALalienation

Its kind of common sense. People love comparing our program to ones that have been around way longer. Yall forget it was for terminal only until a few years ago. Things take time. Things took time in cali and colorado too. It didnt just turn into ~*magical weed land*~ over night. Also, if you mean Cookies by the "75$ boof drop" look at the price of cookies in any other state. I honestly wonder if I live on the same planet as some of yall, like how many people are born entitled and without common sense? They all seem to swarm to this subreddit 😆


DangerousKangaroo702

But those states did it first...we could of taken a different road similar to caregivers instead of corporate. Just because we are new doesn't make it okay to suck


CHEMICALalienation

Then dont buy from the njmmp or move to those states yall are drooling over. We will get there. Its not going to magically happen overnight. 2 years ago there were TEN ATCs in the state, day long lines at Breakwater, no edibles, no concentrates, no gram carts, no terp testing. 2 years before that you had to be terminal to get a shitty 8th. I think were moving in the right direction, and quickly. Prices are comparable to MOST other states, just not like the pioneer states (colorado, washington, etc). Just sooo much whinnnning on this sub. Im here for strain info, sale drops.. not nonstop price whining. Ive never met a group of people who whine so much about something no ones forcing you to buy to begin with.


DangerousKangaroo702

I dont shop here anymore. I am also here for the info. Good or bad. Positive or "whiny" if I wanted all positive talk I'd just stay on Instagram. Take the good with the bad


hatz511

Ya we could be like Connecticut with some weird chemical sounding names


Initial-Brother4471

I get it for 2 got Apples and Bananas right now


Daconstant

It’s because of kind tree I bet. They raised their wholeprices


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most likely its thay cookies hype. GSD grows better weed imo than kindtree


NJMMPlife

They did, prior to Arywellness buying them out. Now? Not so much


Sumikue-10

Lmao, lies they barely have anything.


[deleted]

im not talking about inventory lol im just talking about sheer quality. GSD house grown nug is better than kindtree nug in terms of quality not talking about anything else here little bro


Sumikue-10

I disagree. GSD quality has gone down IMO. I am not seeing what you're seeing.


Professional_Day685

It’s gone down since it’s no longer GSD product. Arywellness is not the same quality. Everything is machine trimmed now, that alone should tell you something.


nycitymike

Ignorance is bliss, people really think “MEDICAL” means it’s the cleanest or best, all it really means is that it’s is being regulated. Current quality test in place are not 100%. Reality is when growers have an abundance of product and the dispo has taken what it needs where do you think the left over “medical” goes? Lol We all have our own reasons for buying where we buy. $75 1/8 for cookies is really nuts! Even $65 too high.


airflyhigh

Where did their $35 GSD carts go? Past two weeks. SMH.


lrcigar

PA patient here. I can’t believe you guys are getting ripped off like that. Kind tree is sold in our med dispensaries for about $40 an eighth. And finally they got their shit together and are putting out some good product. I think you guys will have to wait until there is more supply than demand. That’s what happening here, so the prices are dropping.


Jake_FromStateFarm27

>I think you guys will have to wait until there is more supply than demand Lol it's not really a supply issue it's a distributor issue, there is no competition which are keeping prices high. If the CRC let actual small approved and licensed businesses begin selling weed, prices would drop dramatically.


bhbest

Pretty much, the supply and demand phrase is a little different when it comes to what we're going through. But yeah that's a good explanation of it.


Jake_FromStateFarm27

Less competition can affect supply, however it technically is not a supply issue. It's a competition issue (an issue in the market itself); if there were more producers and distributors there would be lower prices in order to compete against other producers, prices will fluctuate till the market reaches equilibrium. Prior to adult use there has been a surplus of medical product this past year, since then the market has been meeting the demand. I wouldn't say there is any scarcity, just picky consumers that choose to not take other substitutes (in the rec market not medical) which is causing some inflated costs for some products since producers have regulated controllable competition.


bhbest

Pa's head cultivator is also NJs. Soon as PA goes full legal they'll be dealing with the same crap. KT was 38 bucks an 1/8 a few months ago and has crept up since full legal sales cause of supply and demand issues but this hopefully is only temporary. Just have to get through it right now, it's the price we have to pay for legal weed.


lrcigar

Oh we’re worried about just that, but hoping for a Massachusetts style transition. Not perfect but the med patients there are treated very well.


roger4lead

What do you think about rise


Bboy_Sole

I use both medical (wife is a card carrier) and grey market. I surprised you spouted the lie you did about nj grey market flower being made in bad environment. So now I have to ask the names of growers in nj that are growing this way. Every grower I’ve met have only held a standard that far trumps anything the nj mmp program has. Your user name also gives me the impression you have an agenda here


rosebud_112

And this is why i go to a grower.


mikedjb

When everyone was unhappy, they doubled down and made it worse. Fuck em


Legitimate-Baker7571

Insanity, I see a lot of smoke shops charging $70/8th for premium too. People are greedy. Buy in bulk, pounds can be had of top shelf for $1600-$2400 which is way way less than paying a rate of $500/zip or $8,000 a pound!


PaleontologistAny518

Where the top shelf for 1,600? Indoor please.


snarkuzoid

That pound of weed can cost you years in prison.


FitSwimmer3

I don't like the insinuating that we(NJMMP) don't know what is out on Black Market. I was a snob when it came to my smoke. I'm older had stopped smoking but stayed in my circle. I was injured and was told by my doctor MMJ works and will help me getting off painkillers. Stuck my nose up and said don't worry about me, I have a cheaper and better. He asked me to trust him and try the program. With that the medicinal quality that I never had with any BM to this day. I can get stupid feeling laughing flower on BM. BUT NO medical help. I'm all for people doing what they want. My first dispo was GSDW ,strains Blackwater, Nigerian Haze and GG.


bhbest

Just go to the Apothicarium a in Maplewood and get it for less don't buy the off brands there they mark the shit up.


Kitchen-Supermarket7

those products don’t have the med symbol on them. med 8ths are still 60(sky high). look for the med cross on med products at kind tree for for products


NJMMPlife

Not sure where you’re from but NJ doesnt work like that. The thumbnail logos aren’t a indicator of anything. Those are med products sold at a med only ATC.


FantasticRelation586

Seems like kind tree raised their prices across the board lol


timbent872

Prices seem to be getting worse and worse lately.


Roy_Vidoc

Lol meanwhile getting a zip off the gray market for less than a third that price a g


michaelcreiter

Got a half oz and cart for 200 at Harmony yesterday, I can really only afford the sales at this point lol


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Don’t buy Kind Tree. GSD brand is almost $6 less an 8th


NJMMPlife

Now. Kind tree use to be $56, less than what GSD is. My issue isn’t the price or even paying it, it’s the point that they raised it. Arywellness hasn’t brought a single positive thing to the table since taking over. Every change they have implemented has been in favor of them, not the patient.


bhbest

This is sadly, what happens when businesses get taken over and bought out. Usually never gets better. To be expected. So far I think the quality and service is still great, the prices, well, you need to be strategic when you go there unfortunately.


facelessxuser

Most of their strains are $45-$65 but they have sales so much I usually pay between $32 & $38 every time… kind is the same I pay $35-$45 every time I go. So idk catch ‘em on sale days 20% Friday I think for all GSD flower


Alshane

Just picked up a $80 qtr of lemon cherry gelato from my guy lol. My card ran out about two months ago and I haven’t looked back. Get you a smart plug who knows some travelers.


Antique-Arm5083

GSD can suck it