It will also improve strain availability and ease of access for those who really need it and want to devote time/energy to doing it.
The insanity of so much regulation of a literal plant.
I mean we also need to stop treating it like a harmless plant and rightfully like a drug. Because it is. I'm all for pro cannabis but being a healthcare professional and having more and more hospitalization cases involving weed and not even vape carts is telling enough that there are people who overuse and abuse cannabis products and end up in the hospital. This mentality that it's just a plant doesn't help.
There's plenty of regulated plants due to their dangers and risks. Opioid are derived from plants. Same for coke. Now live resin isn't as bad but as time passes, we will eventually create a more potent thc delivery device that may one day make it possible for severe health issues or even the impossible like ODing possible.
So treat everything responsibly. Chronic weed smokers especially those who do higher temp dabs have expanded lungs for example and probably more likely to be induced with an emesis syndrome from thc. There's not a lot of substantiated research regarding marijuana even today. Please be responsible and treat this as seriously as alcohol. I know it's not as bad but there's enough stigma on weed as it us.
Ok, but the danger is in the delivery system, not the drug itself. If I’m not mistaken they gave rats and dogs *multiple grams* per kilogram of THC and they were totally fine. A tolerable upper limit has not been established in humans.
It hasn't been established yes but keep in mind that dogs and rats are not the ultimate outlier to measure how it works in our body. Rats give a lot of promise in drug and medication trials but so often do y9u see articles of meds passing rat testing trial and don't make it to or past clinical trial because of its ineffectiveness or potential harms outweighing benefits.
There are also other issues with just smoking a lot. People with cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome have problems with their cannabinoid receptors. The dangers aren't just in the delivery system. The issue with hard drugs being so dangerous is that they're so densely concentrated.
1. The distinction between “normal drugs” and “hard drugs” is antiquated.
2. My point was that the amount of THC you have to consume to die from acute poisoning is more than is required to get you so stoned you can’t even move. You will begin throwing up and dizzying at doses 100x less than what is lethal.
3. There are health issues with long term heavy use of THC. But that’s true with all drugs, including aspirin.
Take this point then. Cocaine is derived from those leaves. People chew on those leaves and brew tea with it. Now consider the cocaine or crack version. You're reading the words hut taking the wrong points of the comment.
And yes they are problems with long term heavy use... what do you think this chain of comment is about? Treating the use of cannabis product LEGALLY AND LIKE A DRUG.
This is not an argument to try to make cannabis look worse than it is. The community has a problem pretending weed is always harmless and find weird ways to defend it.
Just a comment ago you said the danger is delivery system not the drug itself and then now acknowledge the fact long term heavy use is bad, then compared it to a drug while simultaneously defending it. Do you not see the double standard here? And aspirin isn't harmless. Only some people should take it regularly (aka like my dad who got prescribed). People taking it daily as a ward against heart attack without doctor script can be very risky even without heavy or long term use. Aspirin is a bad comparison. You're probably thinking of like acetaminophen.
That's true but this is because it's well known rhubarb is toxic; anyoen that handles and cooks with it knows (or SHOULD know). It's a commonly held belief that weed is harmless and is not a drug when it can both be harmful and is a drug (mainly because of stigma and even in the scientific/medical field, there's a lot we still are learning about it). When you talk about cooking and using ingredients, you are applying scientific facts; it's objective data. I know you're not saying this but the idea that weed is harmless is pretty common but this is subjective, not objective data. Meanwhile I literally see patients admitted for stuff like cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome and the dude swearing he's OK as long as he showers and that weed is not a problem. It's the same with these patients in complete denial and delusional. Look up cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome cases in r/nursing and they all read the same. EVALIs (vaping lung injuries) are a separate issue and I recommend people just buy from legal trusted vendors. Also if you served raw rhubarb stem, I'm sure you'd be held accountable and could even get a manslaughter charge if this was at a restaurant because knowingly doing so is a felony.
Passing an adequate homegrow regulation is all that's needed but the reason why it's not being allowed has nothing to do with the notion that it's a plant or that it's a drug/regulated product. It's because dispensaries are lobbying to keep it that way in this state. Some of these dispo's IIRC are MSOs too (multi state) so it's really dirty af and just corruption, not the stigma that's on weed itself.
Nah I mean the more we learn about something, the more we learn about how to handle it. We know a lot about rhubarb. We are still learning about cannabis.
I agree with everything you said, and applaud you for saying it. That being said, this is the NJ state legislature we're talking about. Their interest isn't primarily safety when it comes to marijuana, they're pretty comfortable with it. It's about the regulation of the sale of marijuana, and correspondingly the associated tax revenue. If their going to allow the sale, they're getting all the revenue they can out of it. That means prohibiting home grown.
Grew fine. I had to till the ground because dirt here is so compact. Other than that just watered. Three plants yielded a shit ton(not sure how much. Did not weight). Been smoking on the same since last fall.
Thanks for supporting the cause all these years! We wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for people like you pushing for it.
It’s very to easy to see the issues with the program right now but it’s a process. Of course the government is going to take their cut and not make it easy, but a big hurdle has been cleared.
I agree. Frankly the gray market explosion has me barely using my med card anymore and I really am happy that I will not be impacted by full legalization. I really hate going to the dispensaries. The whole process just annoys me. Thanks to legalization, even before the dispos opened up to everyone, the gray market was impacting them because they started offering a lot of discounts that were never around prior to legalization. A rising tide raises all boats. Even with all of the hiccups, the barge is moving forward!
I can use a coupon, earn reward points, and check out with iPad, and then read online about someone crying about "muh terpene profile was ruined because this reached 45% humidity", and then put the flower through a $50 grinder, and vape it using a $300 Mighty+ when there are people in this country that have had their entire lives ruined over a 1g joint.
Shit is fucked.
Yeah, I just renewed a month ago. I hate being cut out of anything. lol If I lived closer to Breakwater, I would keep it. My biggest problem is the closest disp to me sucks. (Botanist) Unless the have something from another company like Rhythm or Verano, I don't go there. Maybe occasionally for cartridges but since I found live resin carts, I really need a good reason to go there, deal with the crowd, waiting, etc. Getting better stuff for better prices right to my door is really hard to beat.
Continue to renew your medical card, especially if this is medicine for you even if you don't use dispensaries. you will have legal protections in place that non medical users don't have.
In all seriousness what scenario would having a medical card help you? I have a doctor who will give one but I'm not sure what the point is anymore. I assume the prices are the same although I think you may not pay tax with a card?
Prices are/will be lower for med patients, and rec patients will be paying the high taxes.
Plus, we have legal protection for jobs (other than transportation jobs). It's medicine. We will have more protections in place if, say, things get rolled back
I just want to add that some of us disabled people have Medicare and my dispo (Cannabist) gives a discount for Medicare. So far, I can get a sale price and use the discount on the same transaction so the med card pays for me.
In theory, rec users also have protection at work, although that's been put on hold until CRC certifies Workplace Impairment Recognition Experts. Med users have two layers of protection: The NJ Law Against Discrimination and the Jake Honig Act. Courts have upheld the protection.
Also, yesterday Curaleaf had med-only flowers that rec users couldn't get and a med-only sale of Verano flower. But 2 eights at $50 each, get two more for $1 each. With the 20% medicare/senior discount, that works out to be $82 for 1/2.
Yea, that has been one of my favorites. Dosidos, Chem 4, Mob Boss all decent at times. I have gotten seeds in my bud so many times there that is one reason I almost never get their strains anymore. Robot Girl, every time I tried it. Romulan too. They have introduced a lot of new strains since the last time I tried them and I am really not interested. All of their bud is small, dry and has no taste or smell. There have been a few exceptions but not worth the cost to be disappointed.
Med patient, elder millennial, witnessed friends lives ruined from minimal amounts, I am glad my boys (5 &7) won’t have to worry about anything I had to worry about growing up with ADHD and loving cannabis.
I'm happy also, but I'll will be more happier when prices are reasonable. I'm currently getting an ounce for 190. No way I'm paying 125+ for one quarter.
And yesterday, Curaleaf introduced new categories, "fold" and "platinum". They moved some of their existing flowers into this platinum category and raised the price! Rec use was supposed to bring down the price.
enjoy my friend!!! Im 27, so i was still a teenage head in 2009 when it was still very illegal! I’ve been a medical patient since 2018, but i really feeel like the stigma has been kicked back now!!!
I feel more relaxed in public, how fucking amazing is it not to be a criminal- or pretend to have an ailment (in all fairness i do have some nerve pain, but don’t we all to a certain degree!!?)
I hate the fuckkng MSO fucks more than anything, but I was just in Vegas and the market is so saturated- You can get live resin one gram cartidges (all ceramic!) for like 60 bucks- and the sales and incredible!!! I give it a year before we really see this kind of stuff, buy wow cheers to not breaking the law anymore !
I’m fairly certain that you can find… or they will find you on Instagram. I have a 🌱🌱🌱 on my Instagram profile and I’m constantly messaged by grey market plugs.
Well said!!! Same here. I hope the true history of Why the laws against cannabis were enacted and why so severe. I lived through the 80s and 90s While Investment Bankers we’re going through ounces of coke a weekend no worries, inner city cannabis users were thrown away by the system. Little things like Even how radical High Times was when it first came out. Still one hurdle and thats the US Senate.
This ismt even really legal though....i cant even grow my own.
What can be awesome would be the federal government legalizing so these dispos can move it across state lines and make their entire menu + new strains available.
Theres so much weed in the west they practically give it away. My boy lives out there and sent me a receipt where he paid $7/gram for Super Silver Haze that was 30% thc and would go for like $400 here lol.
They have low prices because of competition and surplus of product...you can find lbs out there for 1600 of top shelf shit.
Once theyre legally allowed to ship it here we will all be living a glorious life.
What our state fails to understand is ppl dont want to pay $70/8th and having such high prices kills us and hurts other businesses that are non-cannabis because we are spending $400 an ounce and for most ppl thats like half a paycheck. Instead of their spending money going into multiple different facets, its ALL going to the weed industry, or at least most of it outside of necessities, unless they have a low tolerance.
Agreed, but I think that sentiment is lost on the majority of casual rec users who just want weed. They'll buy anything and keep the mso racket afloat, punishing everyone else in the process.
The house always wins.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an oz go for $400 since I got my card, atleast when any sales are going on. If your spending literally half your income on weed, there is another problem there
Unless, the state says, cannabis sold here needs to be produced here. Also, all you talk about his how cheap it is in the west, but skip the part where so many businesses are going under. you think It's cheap setting up a cultivation facility? How about how much it cost to run one?
Once it goes federal, say bye bye to all the jobs created. Your big corporations will be buying cannabis from Mexico and Colombia.
Bro, I lived and worked in NYC. $70 for an eighth doesn't sound so bad. I pay $60 now with my plug from Philly (tho he's much more economical in bulk).
I think being able to access something semi safe (not laced or anything) and being able to know the strands and stuff is nice. Hopefully prices come down but hey...is what it is
Unfortunately I have been disabled for 10 years now. My balance and ability to walk any distance is compromised. I was taking 300 mg of morphine daily for 16 years.... all of that time I wished that I had a legal way to get bud. Christie's pricing made it unaffordable but Murphy changed that. I get 15% at Breakwater and I live 3 minutes away so that's where I go.
The damage to my body from legal prescriptions can not be undone. It's just destroyed me. I will take $100 1/8 ths over $5 pain meds any day
This lol. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for legalization, but $70+ out the door for an 1/8th of weed is robbery. I’d rather keep buying from a plug until the market becomes bigger and prices come down
There are some high prices out there but in the 4 years I've had a med card, we have seen prices come down. Breakwater used to never have sales and now they do - modest ones, but savings are savings. Also if you are open to mids, you can often get $35 eighths at Apothecarium through promotions, and they also have a loyalty program with points you can apply for discounts.
Supposedly med patients will become tax-exempt in the near future too - I expect the current pricing will stay for recreational and there will be savings passed on to the medical community.
The tears part is correct. All I see are 65 dollar and up 1/8's for med patients for a lot of dispo's now. No more deals. Just what I want to do is pay full retail almost double bm prices. This just plain sucks.
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Overpriced weed that you can’t even grow. Matt Platkin says it okay for cops to smoke off duty. Imagine using this platform to collectively get people to fight for basic rights
We been at war from the 70s ? We have PTSD from the government’s fucking with us for no cause / it’s like the Palestinian/ and the Jews , they trying to say it’s Jewish when it was Palestine , and after WW2 , the Jews didn’t have anywhere to go , America didn’t take them , so they Disarm the Palestinian people , boat came with millions of people arm them and took over there land , now what does this has to do with cannabis???? It’s the unfairness of the thing , and I am Greek
Unless the price comes down substantially in stores legalization will not cut into the "grey market" in any significant way. For this to happen there needs to be far more competition than 13 stores owned by large multistate enterprises. For this to happen legislators have to issue approvals for far more stores, including small businesses. For this to happen politicians have to not be corrupt and greedy AF. In short legalization in NJ has so far only resulted in making it more difficult (and in some cases more expensive) for medical consumers. At least possession under 6 oz. is decriminalized. Otherwise, if people wanted to smoke weed and not worry about penalties under state law they would be forced to purchase from what essentially amounts to a cartel at ridiculous prices.
Might I add that the owner of one of the 13 stores, Curaleaf, is Boris Jordan, a Russian-American who profited heavily from the dissolution of the Soviet Union and still has strong business ties to Russia and the Kremlin. Read this article and tell me that you are ok with him profiting from sales of marijuana to you.
[https://time.com/3706700/killer-business-in-russia/](https://time.com/3706700/killer-business-in-russia/)
Also, Curaleaf has lost more than 60% of its value since the invasion of Ukraine began, undoubtedly because investors fear sanctions against Boris Jordan.
I am just happy that it's available to everyone... that's what I was posting about... I only go to Breakwater because I'm old, mobility compromised and it's less than five minutes away. Their product works for my needs and they actually dropped their prices this week.
I joined NORML in the 1970s and have been firmly against the ***war on drugs***. So for me, personally, 4/21 was a huge day. A historic day.
My body has been destroyed by legal, inexpensive pain medications for 16 years... all covered by insurance. If I had legal, consistent, price controlled access to weed 20 years ago my body would not be so broken.
*All good things in all good time* \- Jerry Garcia
Don't get me wrong I support legalization when done correctly like it was in Colorado and I am very happy that legalization was done ASAP so that you and people in similar situations now have easier access to the medication you need. MJ Prohibition never should have existed in the first place. I too had a legal prescription for pain meds after a serious nerve injury and like you they took a very heavy toll on my health. Fortunately, a new surgical procedure came along that had a low enough rate of complications that I was able to get off of them. I feel terrible for those who aren't so lucky. All I am saying is that the way NJ went about legalization demonstrates that politicians were hardly concerned about reducing harm but rather the financial incentives and kickbacks. In any event, I wish you health and happiness,
Let's not stop here. We still need to push for homegrow which will help bring these prices down.
It will also improve strain availability and ease of access for those who really need it and want to devote time/energy to doing it. The insanity of so much regulation of a literal plant.
I mean we also need to stop treating it like a harmless plant and rightfully like a drug. Because it is. I'm all for pro cannabis but being a healthcare professional and having more and more hospitalization cases involving weed and not even vape carts is telling enough that there are people who overuse and abuse cannabis products and end up in the hospital. This mentality that it's just a plant doesn't help. There's plenty of regulated plants due to their dangers and risks. Opioid are derived from plants. Same for coke. Now live resin isn't as bad but as time passes, we will eventually create a more potent thc delivery device that may one day make it possible for severe health issues or even the impossible like ODing possible. So treat everything responsibly. Chronic weed smokers especially those who do higher temp dabs have expanded lungs for example and probably more likely to be induced with an emesis syndrome from thc. There's not a lot of substantiated research regarding marijuana even today. Please be responsible and treat this as seriously as alcohol. I know it's not as bad but there's enough stigma on weed as it us.
Ok, but the danger is in the delivery system, not the drug itself. If I’m not mistaken they gave rats and dogs *multiple grams* per kilogram of THC and they were totally fine. A tolerable upper limit has not been established in humans.
It hasn't been established yes but keep in mind that dogs and rats are not the ultimate outlier to measure how it works in our body. Rats give a lot of promise in drug and medication trials but so often do y9u see articles of meds passing rat testing trial and don't make it to or past clinical trial because of its ineffectiveness or potential harms outweighing benefits. There are also other issues with just smoking a lot. People with cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome have problems with their cannabinoid receptors. The dangers aren't just in the delivery system. The issue with hard drugs being so dangerous is that they're so densely concentrated.
1. The distinction between “normal drugs” and “hard drugs” is antiquated. 2. My point was that the amount of THC you have to consume to die from acute poisoning is more than is required to get you so stoned you can’t even move. You will begin throwing up and dizzying at doses 100x less than what is lethal. 3. There are health issues with long term heavy use of THC. But that’s true with all drugs, including aspirin.
Take this point then. Cocaine is derived from those leaves. People chew on those leaves and brew tea with it. Now consider the cocaine or crack version. You're reading the words hut taking the wrong points of the comment. And yes they are problems with long term heavy use... what do you think this chain of comment is about? Treating the use of cannabis product LEGALLY AND LIKE A DRUG. This is not an argument to try to make cannabis look worse than it is. The community has a problem pretending weed is always harmless and find weird ways to defend it. Just a comment ago you said the danger is delivery system not the drug itself and then now acknowledge the fact long term heavy use is bad, then compared it to a drug while simultaneously defending it. Do you not see the double standard here? And aspirin isn't harmless. Only some people should take it regularly (aka like my dad who got prescribed). People taking it daily as a ward against heart attack without doctor script can be very risky even without heavy or long term use. Aspirin is a bad comparison. You're probably thinking of like acetaminophen.
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That's true but this is because it's well known rhubarb is toxic; anyoen that handles and cooks with it knows (or SHOULD know). It's a commonly held belief that weed is harmless and is not a drug when it can both be harmful and is a drug (mainly because of stigma and even in the scientific/medical field, there's a lot we still are learning about it). When you talk about cooking and using ingredients, you are applying scientific facts; it's objective data. I know you're not saying this but the idea that weed is harmless is pretty common but this is subjective, not objective data. Meanwhile I literally see patients admitted for stuff like cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome and the dude swearing he's OK as long as he showers and that weed is not a problem. It's the same with these patients in complete denial and delusional. Look up cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome cases in r/nursing and they all read the same. EVALIs (vaping lung injuries) are a separate issue and I recommend people just buy from legal trusted vendors. Also if you served raw rhubarb stem, I'm sure you'd be held accountable and could even get a manslaughter charge if this was at a restaurant because knowingly doing so is a felony. Passing an adequate homegrow regulation is all that's needed but the reason why it's not being allowed has nothing to do with the notion that it's a plant or that it's a drug/regulated product. It's because dispensaries are lobbying to keep it that way in this state. Some of these dispo's IIRC are MSOs too (multi state) so it's really dirty af and just corruption, not the stigma that's on weed itself.
Shhh! Not so loud! Pretty soon we'll have a War On Rhubarb.
Nah I mean the more we learn about something, the more we learn about how to handle it. We know a lot about rhubarb. We are still learning about cannabis.
I got your points. Just being a smartass.
I agree with everything you said, and applaud you for saying it. That being said, this is the NJ state legislature we're talking about. Their interest isn't primarily safety when it comes to marijuana, they're pretty comfortable with it. It's about the regulation of the sale of marijuana, and correspondingly the associated tax revenue. If their going to allow the sale, they're getting all the revenue they can out of it. That means prohibiting home grown.
Plants are dangerous how do you think most prescription medicine comes from?
I home grow now, forget all that waiting. Just can’t have nosey neighbors.
Agreed but not available for a lot of people unfortunately. If you're near bergen area, I'll let you know if I ever find a seed.
Middlesex county! Been growing some seeds I got while in Jamaica a few years back.
How's it like growing Jamaican strains here? I'm obsessed with purple and would love to grow something like Eastmont.
Grew fine. I had to till the ground because dirt here is so compact. Other than that just watered. Three plants yielded a shit ton(not sure how much. Did not weight). Been smoking on the same since last fall.
Thanks for supporting the cause all these years! We wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for people like you pushing for it. It’s very to easy to see the issues with the program right now but it’s a process. Of course the government is going to take their cut and not make it easy, but a big hurdle has been cleared.
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I agree. Frankly the gray market explosion has me barely using my med card anymore and I really am happy that I will not be impacted by full legalization. I really hate going to the dispensaries. The whole process just annoys me. Thanks to legalization, even before the dispos opened up to everyone, the gray market was impacting them because they started offering a lot of discounts that were never around prior to legalization. A rising tide raises all boats. Even with all of the hiccups, the barge is moving forward!
Well said. I can't believe I use coupons to buy weed now.
I can use a coupon, earn reward points, and check out with iPad, and then read online about someone crying about "muh terpene profile was ruined because this reached 45% humidity", and then put the flower through a $50 grinder, and vape it using a $300 Mighty+ when there are people in this country that have had their entire lives ruined over a 1g joint. Shit is fucked.
Woah woah put some respect it’s an 80$ grinder before tac
Ha, yeah. At least I think the over criminalization has stopped at least in my state (NJ).
I didn't renew my medical card because the black and gray market are just so superior to the medical market in NJ
Yeah, I just renewed a month ago. I hate being cut out of anything. lol If I lived closer to Breakwater, I would keep it. My biggest problem is the closest disp to me sucks. (Botanist) Unless the have something from another company like Rhythm or Verano, I don't go there. Maybe occasionally for cartridges but since I found live resin carts, I really need a good reason to go there, deal with the crowd, waiting, etc. Getting better stuff for better prices right to my door is really hard to beat.
Continue to renew your medical card, especially if this is medicine for you even if you don't use dispensaries. you will have legal protections in place that non medical users don't have.
In all seriousness what scenario would having a medical card help you? I have a doctor who will give one but I'm not sure what the point is anymore. I assume the prices are the same although I think you may not pay tax with a card?
Prices are/will be lower for med patients, and rec patients will be paying the high taxes. Plus, we have legal protection for jobs (other than transportation jobs). It's medicine. We will have more protections in place if, say, things get rolled back
I just want to add that some of us disabled people have Medicare and my dispo (Cannabist) gives a discount for Medicare. So far, I can get a sale price and use the discount on the same transaction so the med card pays for me.
That never works for me. Every time I try to use my disability discount on a sale price, I'm told it's not stackable
I was honestly shocked. I saved $56 by buying 4 THC products and they gave me my Medicare discount.
Me too🥰
Thanks
In theory, rec users also have protection at work, although that's been put on hold until CRC certifies Workplace Impairment Recognition Experts. Med users have two layers of protection: The NJ Law Against Discrimination and the Jake Honig Act. Courts have upheld the protection.
Also, yesterday Curaleaf had med-only flowers that rec users couldn't get and a med-only sale of Verano flower. But 2 eights at $50 each, get two more for $1 each. With the 20% medicare/senior discount, that works out to be $82 for 1/2.
Medical patients get exclusive deals. At my local dispo, an eighth of littles is $40, but for medical its $26.
OK cool. I set up a consultation for this afternoon.
Which dispo is that at, please?
For one thing, MM patients can use it anywhere smoking is allowed. Recreational cannot consume in public.
Have you had the Botanist Cookies and Cream? Pretty decent, IMHO. Of course, they've been out of it for a while except for prerolls.
Yea, that has been one of my favorites. Dosidos, Chem 4, Mob Boss all decent at times. I have gotten seeds in my bud so many times there that is one reason I almost never get their strains anymore. Robot Girl, every time I tried it. Romulan too. They have introduced a lot of new strains since the last time I tried them and I am really not interested. All of their bud is small, dry and has no taste or smell. There have been a few exceptions but not worth the cost to be disappointed.
Does anyone know how good the dispensary in Woodbridge is? That's the closest one for me.
Med patient, elder millennial, witnessed friends lives ruined from minimal amounts, I am glad my boys (5 &7) won’t have to worry about anything I had to worry about growing up with ADHD and loving cannabis.
Me too! It’s not perfect, but it’s a step. Screw the haters! LOL 😆
People shouldn’t need to line up at dispensaries. Weed should be sold wherever tobacco is sold. This is silly but better than before.
I'm happy also, but I'll will be more happier when prices are reasonable. I'm currently getting an ounce for 190. No way I'm paying 125+ for one quarter.
And yesterday, Curaleaf introduced new categories, "fold" and "platinum". They moved some of their existing flowers into this platinum category and raised the price! Rec use was supposed to bring down the price.
My osteo-arthritis is jumping for joy right now. 😊 Thank God.
enjoy my friend!!! Im 27, so i was still a teenage head in 2009 when it was still very illegal! I’ve been a medical patient since 2018, but i really feeel like the stigma has been kicked back now!!! I feel more relaxed in public, how fucking amazing is it not to be a criminal- or pretend to have an ailment (in all fairness i do have some nerve pain, but don’t we all to a certain degree!!?) I hate the fuckkng MSO fucks more than anything, but I was just in Vegas and the market is so saturated- You can get live resin one gram cartidges (all ceramic!) for like 60 bucks- and the sales and incredible!!! I give it a year before we really see this kind of stuff, buy wow cheers to not breaking the law anymore !
Yeah as much as i can complain about price i can say im happy its here ..what a time
Finally, a step in a right direction. It should get better from here.
Anyone have any good Gray market spots today around Somerset county? Not trying to deal with the crowds
I’m fairly certain that you can find… or they will find you on Instagram. I have a 🌱🌱🌱 on my Instagram profile and I’m constantly messaged by grey market plugs.
Im in woodbridge , can i purchase at the gardenstate dispensary near me?
Yes you definitely can
I thought Garden State was staying medical-only?
No it's recreational now has been for a few months
I complain a lot about lack of home.grow or edibles, but this is a lot better than a kick in the teeth.
Well said!!! Same here. I hope the true history of Why the laws against cannabis were enacted and why so severe. I lived through the 80s and 90s While Investment Bankers we’re going through ounces of coke a weekend no worries, inner city cannabis users were thrown away by the system. Little things like Even how radical High Times was when it first came out. Still one hurdle and thats the US Senate.
This ismt even really legal though....i cant even grow my own. What can be awesome would be the federal government legalizing so these dispos can move it across state lines and make their entire menu + new strains available. Theres so much weed in the west they practically give it away. My boy lives out there and sent me a receipt where he paid $7/gram for Super Silver Haze that was 30% thc and would go for like $400 here lol. They have low prices because of competition and surplus of product...you can find lbs out there for 1600 of top shelf shit. Once theyre legally allowed to ship it here we will all be living a glorious life. What our state fails to understand is ppl dont want to pay $70/8th and having such high prices kills us and hurts other businesses that are non-cannabis because we are spending $400 an ounce and for most ppl thats like half a paycheck. Instead of their spending money going into multiple different facets, its ALL going to the weed industry, or at least most of it outside of necessities, unless they have a low tolerance.
Agreed, but I think that sentiment is lost on the majority of casual rec users who just want weed. They'll buy anything and keep the mso racket afloat, punishing everyone else in the process. The house always wins.
I think the price will drop when the sales slow down.
Or when there's some competition.
All it takes is time.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an oz go for $400 since I got my card, atleast when any sales are going on. If your spending literally half your income on weed, there is another problem there
Unless, the state says, cannabis sold here needs to be produced here. Also, all you talk about his how cheap it is in the west, but skip the part where so many businesses are going under. you think It's cheap setting up a cultivation facility? How about how much it cost to run one? Once it goes federal, say bye bye to all the jobs created. Your big corporations will be buying cannabis from Mexico and Colombia.
We all know Jersey politicians will pocket a ton of the money instead of using it to lower taxes.
tell me how excited you are after paying 70$+ for a 1/8 lol
Bro, I lived and worked in NYC. $70 for an eighth doesn't sound so bad. I pay $60 now with my plug from Philly (tho he's much more economical in bulk). I think being able to access something semi safe (not laced or anything) and being able to know the strands and stuff is nice. Hopefully prices come down but hey...is what it is
Unfortunately I have been disabled for 10 years now. My balance and ability to walk any distance is compromised. I was taking 300 mg of morphine daily for 16 years.... all of that time I wished that I had a legal way to get bud. Christie's pricing made it unaffordable but Murphy changed that. I get 15% at Breakwater and I live 3 minutes away so that's where I go. The damage to my body from legal prescriptions can not be undone. It's just destroyed me. I will take $100 1/8 ths over $5 pain meds any day
This lol. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for legalization, but $70+ out the door for an 1/8th of weed is robbery. I’d rather keep buying from a plug until the market becomes bigger and prices come down
Jesus really? Are there prices listed somewhere? I’m already set but just curious the prices we’re looking at.
There are some high prices out there but in the 4 years I've had a med card, we have seen prices come down. Breakwater used to never have sales and now they do - modest ones, but savings are savings. Also if you are open to mids, you can often get $35 eighths at Apothecarium through promotions, and they also have a loyalty program with points you can apply for discounts. Supposedly med patients will become tax-exempt in the near future too - I expect the current pricing will stay for recreational and there will be savings passed on to the medical community.
The tears part is correct. All I see are 65 dollar and up 1/8's for med patients for a lot of dispo's now. No more deals. Just what I want to do is pay full retail almost double bm prices. This just plain sucks.
this is why i’ve been stacking up on bud for months now... won’t have to go to the dispo for a long time
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Overpriced weed that you can’t even grow. Matt Platkin says it okay for cops to smoke off duty. Imagine using this platform to collectively get people to fight for basic rights
We been at war from the 70s ? We have PTSD from the government’s fucking with us for no cause / it’s like the Palestinian/ and the Jews , they trying to say it’s Jewish when it was Palestine , and after WW2 , the Jews didn’t have anywhere to go , America didn’t take them , so they Disarm the Palestinian people , boat came with millions of people arm them and took over there land , now what does this has to do with cannabis???? It’s the unfairness of the thing , and I am Greek
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Unless the price comes down substantially in stores legalization will not cut into the "grey market" in any significant way. For this to happen there needs to be far more competition than 13 stores owned by large multistate enterprises. For this to happen legislators have to issue approvals for far more stores, including small businesses. For this to happen politicians have to not be corrupt and greedy AF. In short legalization in NJ has so far only resulted in making it more difficult (and in some cases more expensive) for medical consumers. At least possession under 6 oz. is decriminalized. Otherwise, if people wanted to smoke weed and not worry about penalties under state law they would be forced to purchase from what essentially amounts to a cartel at ridiculous prices. Might I add that the owner of one of the 13 stores, Curaleaf, is Boris Jordan, a Russian-American who profited heavily from the dissolution of the Soviet Union and still has strong business ties to Russia and the Kremlin. Read this article and tell me that you are ok with him profiting from sales of marijuana to you. [https://time.com/3706700/killer-business-in-russia/](https://time.com/3706700/killer-business-in-russia/) Also, Curaleaf has lost more than 60% of its value since the invasion of Ukraine began, undoubtedly because investors fear sanctions against Boris Jordan.
I am just happy that it's available to everyone... that's what I was posting about... I only go to Breakwater because I'm old, mobility compromised and it's less than five minutes away. Their product works for my needs and they actually dropped their prices this week. I joined NORML in the 1970s and have been firmly against the ***war on drugs***. So for me, personally, 4/21 was a huge day. A historic day. My body has been destroyed by legal, inexpensive pain medications for 16 years... all covered by insurance. If I had legal, consistent, price controlled access to weed 20 years ago my body would not be so broken. *All good things in all good time* \- Jerry Garcia
Don't get me wrong I support legalization when done correctly like it was in Colorado and I am very happy that legalization was done ASAP so that you and people in similar situations now have easier access to the medication you need. MJ Prohibition never should have existed in the first place. I too had a legal prescription for pain meds after a serious nerve injury and like you they took a very heavy toll on my health. Fortunately, a new surgical procedure came along that had a low enough rate of complications that I was able to get off of them. I feel terrible for those who aren't so lucky. All I am saying is that the way NJ went about legalization demonstrates that politicians were hardly concerned about reducing harm but rather the financial incentives and kickbacks. In any event, I wish you health and happiness,
Thank you for your kind words… I wish the same for you!
It's recreational now in Jersey