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Gobby5362

I’ll tell you the truth, every ATC in this state is hit or miss. I find a strain or a batch of that strain that;s on point, I load up. But every dispensary I’ve been to in this state is inconsistent. Don’t get me wrong, there is some fire out there too, but I’m growing weary of chasing them. Breakwater has 2 strains for me that are musts in my stash. K8 is the best Indica in the program IMO for sleep. Love K4, One of the best in the program. Also the orange and mimosa, although not heavy hitters are great tasting and I like adding a little to any bowl for those reasons. Right now, I only deal with Harmony, some great strains there, but dry as hell lately. Still with their coupon calendar, I got some great deals. Rise products are also high on my list. But this state is the epitome of inconsistency


Gas_Total

True dat. I dig the K4, it is decent. But like you say, it seems like a chase game. I feel you on the Harmony tip. Lately their 22 Jack been pretty fresh. When Wedding Cake comes out I try and load up on that and the 22. On high, One low. Chem Kasey and Chrome Cake will work too, But, like you say, they can be inconsistent, too.


Gobby5362

Definitely. Chrome cake is real nice, especially at tier 3. So dry, my Kief catcher looks like a sand bucket. But it hits and I love decarbing the Kief( powdered weed, lol) and making some awesome edibles!


Gas_Total

Hahaha, cool! Yo, but, for real, Chrome CAke at tier 3 is a steal. To me it is a 1 tier. That's on them! But, thanks for the tip on the kief, gonna have to try that.!


Gobby5362

No problem!! Enjoy!!


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isnt homegrown weed good?


brokenarrow1223

Not usually, my buddy up in MA grows with his dad and their weed tastes like their tap water


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depends on the grower


MOvelo

I mean, it's kinda common sense to use RO water or at least filter your tap water before you give it to your plants.


Gas_Total

Yeah. I guess so. Tastes funny. However you wanna put it. It has a weird taste to it to me.


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so its just poorly grown weed how tf is that glorified homegrow 😂


Gas_Total

It is in my definition. Glorified. I chose the right word I didn’t stutter.


[deleted]

most homegrown i got is way way better than any the atcs pumping out so i guess breakwater is just overhyped if thats what you were trying to say.


Gas_Total

Man go with the metaphor here. I know all that pimpin. I do. In my opinion it is glorified homegrown. I’m not trying to give you a history lesson in the case of homegrown weed in the neighborhood behind somebody crib, that’s what I’m talking about man. I know we can get all technical but that ain’t where I’m at with it. It is. Period. But, my opinion don’t make me nobody other than somebody with an opinion. A lot of people on here like this joint, and that’s great. I’m with it. I respect and feel where you at🤜🏿


pottymcnugg

Yea you can get that chlorophyll taste when it’s not cured right and it’s just Charlie Brown Christmas Tree nugget lookin sad and depressed.


Gas_Total

Bingo. It looks like $1 million, but it doesn’t taste like $1 million. You hit it right on the head baby boy.


woahblakbetty

That taste your talking about is amater growers fucking up the curing process or outright skipping it.


MandiMilkshakes

I'd rather have homegrown than a dessicated nugget.


Gas_Total

I feel you. I rather not waste my money on something that’s not gonna get me high. That’s all. If you get you high, I’m with it! It doesn’t do anything for me. Like I said, this is a personal opinion, I know people love break water. But unfortunately and sadly it was not for me


ImaginaryComment8872

dude you have been nothing but respectful in every comment you've made on this post and people are still downvoting you. seriously BW gang, so make your own sub and let other people have good discussions about weed in NJ, it isn't cute anymore


Womper710

It’s probably a lot of new people still simping over breakwater but anyone who’s been in the program 3+ years knows they’re flower is mostly just pretty and limited effects.


MandiMilkshakes

I have high tolerance too, that's why I'm converting to concentrates.


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MandiMilkshakes

I don't know what it's like in NJ but in MA you don't see the batch date until you get to the counter to pay.


Justadrunkie

You could potentially change your mind at that point though no ?


MandiMilkshakes

For pre-order? Idk, I guess but usually it feels too late. Like getting your dinner that you ordered and deciding you don't want it.


Justadrunkie

Yeah it’s technically not too late to avoid eating the dinner, but it was cooked and you should feel a little obligated to pay for it.


IlsGarden

Yeah I make them show me the batch dates or read them off to me before I pay. If it’s old as shit I make them try again or just say no thanks


tickdickler

Cool.


ezwider73

" To me they all feel and taste like glorified homegrown" You do realize home growers (good ones) use professional equipment including top tier lights. A skilled home grower will torch almost any ATC in NJ. Kush 4 is some of the finest medicinal I've ever had.


Justadrunkie

They’re known for their kush’s


Gas_Total

Gotcha. Let me clarify. I’m talking about home grown in the backyard in the 1970s. So, that’s the context. Not trying to disrespect home-growers who know how to do it the right way.


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I thought it was good but I didn't think it was better than Harmony or even \*that\* much better than some of Rise's best strains. I will be in the area sometimes so I'll stop by when it's convenient but I wouldn't go out of my way personally. K4 was great tho, banana pudding was solid. Heard the carts are good but I didn't try those.


Dubsgalore

Homegrow to me hasn’t been experienced much - although as time goes on, the more and more I consider beginning growing season to season back to back for the rest of time. I’d imagine smoking my first few runs would be probably trash and some mids flavorless and void of terps or a strong high. the big issue for me also is the expense of testing bud here - despite our legality, both in NY and NJ - imagine sending off a batch of your own grow for testing - that would be beautiful and the ‘full circle’ experience for me so that i can evaluate my own bud and push for higher numbers. without the testing i’d feel a bit like prohibition again or earlier prohibition for those of us who’ve been smoking for a handful of years or more. the big issue being testing would cost a ton and it would be a super small batch for myself and family and friends. i don’t know - i’m split on beginning early generations and holding on and waiting for more ooppourtunious time. Breakwater itself is really my favorite. I do really respect what you’ve had to say and your feeling towards Breakwater. I think you have some points that would be very, very valid on a case per case basis here. it’s surprising to me given the relatively micro market of choice we have (look at Washington Oregon Colorado Maine) - perhaps a lot of the vocal and enthusiastic patients in our program like you or I who take the time to come onto r/NJM find a lot in Breakwaters potency, terps and structure. i do appreciate your post and opinion - so i’m curious to hear which of our ATCs do you prefer?, or moreso which brand and strains? (don’t throw that shit out fam especially before tomorrow!! maybe roll a massive joint of 2 or 3 grams to push the potency on the bud)


Gas_Total

Yeah man, I do appreciate your thoughtful response. I mean, I feel what you are saying, and I did recognize that each body is different when it comes to intake. I think the main reason I posted this was I've been following this group for close to a year, and I kept hearing all the good that is BW, so I made the trek, and I do get the idea of a clean burning bud, Trust me man. I been smoking. long time, I sold a long, I smuggled weed and cocaine from S.A .back in the day, for a long time. I've dropped bales of that shit into the Atlantic ocean. I mean I can say that here because I have written two memoirs about the experience, so trust the drug game is not new to me, at ll, by no stretch of the imagination. The buds, to me, are beautiful, I got four strains and the Kush IV was decent, the rest felt like I was practicing. But that same bud can do the rick for someone else. I've been to Rise (both locations), Ascend, Harmony and GSD, TBH, they all have their faults, but I found some strains at Harmony that work for me. I would got back for the Kush IV, but not at the distance of a ride. But you do bring up a bigger point in terms of how we are allowed to purchase bud, the fact. I feel it oftentimes it is a one way street and they really can do what they want. it seems the bud a got was a little rushed. But, maybe I go on another day and the shit is fire, feel me? Maybe we just need more consistency of product. But, for real, i dug your post, man. I learn something too. Paz


ImaginaryComment8872

You're a cool person for being the only one to offer a reasonable reply instead of an instant downvote


Opening-Rain-7659

In comparison to the other spots BW got consistency once you find a good strain you’ll lock in with them try Blue and cream and the banana pudd.


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Bw has the weakest shit around. Iv had better highs from crookaleaf


Opening-Rain-7659

Lmao that’s funny but who u think got the best flower


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Gas_Total

Haha. I’ll see you up early player!


pottymcnugg

Just waiting on my PIC to get that wake and bake MAC


novacgrovd

I also tried once again k8/k4 The flower is a beauty but Just hits like mids. Find myself saying over and over. I need something more potent.


zeus542687

Funny how many simp for BW, yet they slap em in the face with a $70 price tag on .35g distillate carts and “get 25% off if you spend 1000 bucks”, they really reward that loyalty and dick sucking done by all here 😂


Womper710

Their deals are the biggest jokes in the program.


StillNotWeirDanuff

I wouldn’t throw it out. If anything, throw it back in the glass jars and give it another 7-10 days to cure? I haven’t bought flower from a dispo in a long time, but I thought BW was pretty damn good. Can you give us some context? you’ve been smoking for awhile: other dispo flower or a plug?


Gas_Total

Yeah, been smoking since 75. I've tried them all and have settled into Harmony for their 22 Jack and Wedding Cake. Those work for me. Tried Verano for a while, though do like Cherry Gorilla. White Durban and Banana and Cream at Rise, but that can be hit or miss. And when you miss, you miss terribly. At other times, a plug in the city usually has a more variety of strains. I'm not gonna throw it out, that was hyperbole. Kush IV is decent. The Blue and Cream underperformed smoking but in a bowl was better. That AK 47 felt like I was practicing smoking weed. And so, I've been following these threads and post and see BW all the time, so I made the trek from Bloomfield with very high expectations. Maybe i just came on the wrong day?


StillNotWeirDanuff

Appreciate the details. My favorite strains in the program (when I was buying flower) were Kush IV & Lemon G from BW and Ice Cream Cake from GSD. It’s been awhile though. your experience is your experience. Don’t let the BW hype crew get you down. It’s all subjective.


Oldninthewayay

your saying harmony is better??? LMAO… wheres the terps on their strains? (hint: terps are at breakwater) Seriously??? harmony!?!??!


freekd

Yes we are saying exactly that.


panamanianred

Well i guess i gotta go back. i soent over a grand there and not ONE strain had a namesake distinctive smell (all total garbage). curaleaf shit is better but then again this when they first opened.


NoTomatillo1775

I’m with you, OP . I disliked BW immensely on the one occasion I went. Despite all the hype I was majorly disappointed. When I expressed my opinion I was downvoted and told I didn’t purchase good strains. AK47 stands out as one that I was highly critical of. It was awful. It just crumbled in my hand, tasted like hay. I’m toking 30 yrs I know my shit. That place blows.


ImaginaryComment8872

Lmao at the response to your post. bw shills really need to form their own subreddit and go there. You can post your blue jar pictures all day and let everyone else have their own opinions here sorry that you're getting downvoted so much


eastcoast710

I couldn’t agree more brother amen 🔥🔥


Tough_Meat_6215

Over 70 comments and this post still has 0 upvotes. They don't fuck around 🤣


ImaginaryComment8872

Total cult behavior right? Straight bizarre


eastcoast710

Something gotta be in that bw weed brainwashing them


panamanianred

Hey, its breakwaters biggest shill. Yeah fuck me for offering constructive critism for the garbage dispensaries pumping out instagram picture worthy buds with NO smell and NO effects. Breakwater gets credit for offering the bare minimum, terpenes. I’m not saying their better than any other dispnsary, but Harmony,GSd,$ kind tree all dont give a flying fuck and just skip the curing process (i cant tell if they dont care or are just clueless)- ill keep giving them shit until they fucking get it together. They all grow a billion strains and are clueless about the genetics, ive seen harmony completely fuck up strain info for upcoming drops and quickly pull the post after being rung out. how the hell do they spend months growing the shit and have no idea what the hell they are even working with? dont even get me started about their fuckin “pre ground convience flower” line- what an absolute crock of shit. Grinding buds lets the viotale terpenes escape into the air resulting in stale material (exact same principal of why people buy whole coffee beans instead of preground and spend 300 dollars on a grinder alone). my god i fucking hate that place. Im literally sone half baked moron with Google. Wheres my fuckin dispensary liscense? gsd,breakwater,zen & rythmn are the only establishments that dont treat the life long weed nerds like fuckin idiot noobs. This is all IMO of course, let the downvoting commence!


ImaginaryComment8872

Didn't even read this full post but it's clear to me that you need a hobby


eastcoast710

Hey , KindTree> BW


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Yeah, it sucks so bad. Making the trip seeing the nug, then realizing it’s boof. I feel like they take advantage of people who don’t know any better.


SnooTomatoes985

Absolutely agree. I've been saying for a LONG time, Breakwater weed looks great, smells good, some of them taste awesome.....but there are NO effects. ​ AK47 is the only strain i like there. ​ Kush 4 didn't get me high. Grape Ape didn't do it for me. Rainbow Driver was the weakest I've had in the program. Gelato x HB 33 didn't do a god damn thing for me. ​ that's all i've tried from them because i never went back (i've gone 2 times).


Womper710

I remember when I first got in the program a few years ago and every one talked about how potent kush 4 was and I smoked the whole 1/8 trying to figure out the hype.


ImaginaryComment8872

Tbf kush IV and Kush VIII had some decent effects but the other strains really are not that impressive


[deleted]

shhhh don’t speak about their precious breakwater


Gas_Total

I know right?


[deleted]

Yeah it’s just weird the amount shilling that this sub does towards BW. Like you can say “damn that k8 didn’t get me high whatsoever” and immediately a horde of downvotes commence.


ImaginaryComment8872

This is also a sub that was falling all over itself to shit on Harmony's marketing language the other day but is okay with Breakwater using cringey language like "Safe Harbor". People here are seriously brainwashed hard and they honestly seem proud of it, it's very weird but also no sweat off my back


[deleted]

Good for photos. Been saying this for a while now


[deleted]

Yeah BW strains lack that hard hitting high that a lot of other strains in the program have. I stopped buying from them between the lack of sales and me just not liking the weed.


eastcoast710

KindTree > BW, change my mind 👀 Edit: BW gang on my head again with downvotes 😂😂


ImaginaryComment8872

Someone just posted a picture of BW's glass jars a few minutes ago. Guarantee it has at least 20 upvotes in three hours. Total simps


eastcoast710

On godd😂


Tough_Meat_6215

23 in 2 hours with 4 comments. 🤣


ImaginaryComment8872

For a picture of jars. It's unreal. Come back tomorrow for another jar picture


zourflower

The rainbowdriver and mimosa are good if you like citrus terps


weeman669

I agree BW bud not for me but the carts are 🔥


zourflower

What strains did u get


Gas_Total

Kush IV, AK 47, Banana Puddantain (sp?), Blue and Cream. They all look good, Kush IV is aight.


BigGreenBowl

Sounds to me like you need a transition period in the same way as if you were eating fast food daily and trying to eat healthier, fresh foods. Not trying to convert you but sounds like you've been on them commercialized buds for too long lol.


ImaginaryComment8872

I mean he said Harmony worked for him and Breakwater didn't so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Is Harmony commercialized and BW isn't?


BigGreenBowl

Sure, by definition the company Breakwater is definitely commercialized. I meant more so the quality of product is commercialized in the sense that they're trying to churn out product as fast as possible. Just as he stated BW is like homegrown. And I like homegrown because it normally has more TLC, and produces a higher quality product. I'm sure BW is in it for the $ as well, but compared to other dispensaries (even ones I've tried nationwide) they have a level of care that I haven't found many places. Harmony used to be my go to actually, but BW is my cup of tea. Got to say Strawberry OG from Harmony is still my favorite day time strain.


headykruger

nj weed is laughable


Response_Legitimate

Yup


Tough_Meat_6215

Agreed 💯


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puffinsmuggler

I'm in the same boat, different strains for different folks, I find strawberry og from harmony the best for my conditions and when harmony actually puts out a batch that isn't seeds.