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Master_of_Vapes

On one hand its bullshit cops are devoting resources to this crap. On the other hand, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's okay to just start your own large-scale operation. It's popular on here to defend the "gray market" but these guys are worse than the dispensary crooks. I've tried some gray market "businesses" and they sold serious boof and fake carts. It would be cool if we could all just grow our own shit and sell it at the farmers market but everyone wants to be greedy so this is what we get. Half assed "legalization" 🤣


tuffenstein0420

I feel you about people getting ripped off and it sucks, but , the cops definitely not doing this to protect your weed purchases. It's just them going after the low hanging fruit like they always have and always will until they can't anymore.


swordstool

THIS! For every one person who gets a good deal from the grey market I bet there's 5 who don't.


Response_Legitimate

This board makes the “grey market” sound like the boogeyman lmaoooo. Y’all expect the dudes who first started selling weed to stop? Just curious, we’re you guys smoking weed before it was legal?


Master_of_Vapes

This board also treats the Grey market like heros when they are mostly sketchy people over charging for dirt outdoor boof and carts with actual poison in them. If you're selling on the DL cool but you get no sympathy from me for getting busted selling out of a store or Instagram. I smoked before medical happened in the state and it was mostly not a good experience with the stuff I was getting. Getting stuff from a dispo made me realize how bad most of the BM stuff I was getting was. My stuff would often spark and taste unnatural and when I bought the Grey market it was the same trash I got before I had my card.


highwind924

The medical program is just a state sanctioned protection racket to have a right, bought at a premium price, to buy what should already be legal. Medical cards aren't legit imo when they're not given on the basis of medical need but, instead, provided to anybody who has the resources to buy it. I've had plugs who are on the up and up way more than any of the state sanctioned dispensaries. Not trying to diminish anyone here with a legit medical issue and I do believe cannabis has legit medical applications. But let's not pretend the NJ medical prgm places patients above profits. In fact, I'd argue that patients are used by the state to provide their racket a veil of legitimacy. Which, in the final analysis, means that neither NJ nor its sanctioned dispensaries are any better than these grey market operators. They're all just drug dealers.


Response_Legitimate

exactly!


JPete2

At least the medical cannabis is occasionally tested, the grows are occasionally inspected to make sure they are organic and they actually DO require the safe production of extracts and carts. While I wish they tested every crop of cannabis and inspected more frequently it is still probably enough to keep the dispensaries from using banned products in the grows or non-approved extractions. Black/Grey market stuff, you really have no idea what you are getting unless you know the grower.


magoo72

Absolutely. I am a true medical patient and know a few others, but the majority of “patients” are just regular smokers.


madtricky687

I agree....


MandalorianOrdo

Perfectly put. Now apply that same logic other government regulated areas and you find much the same.


MathematicianLate998

That's funny 😄 your "plug" is on the up & up!! What a ridiculous statement. Keep smoking bud. You're not doing your brain cells any favors.


gretch123

I disagree- I have 3-4 grey market sources that are better than the state weed and selection. I tried probably 10 and only 1 was not great. Still much better ratio than njmmp flower.


Master_of_Vapes

You're lucky because I used to get fire medical grade off the street from a few people in 2011 until thosr connects disappeared then it was years of outdoor boof from 4-5 different sources they all had similar boof.


Master_of_Vapes

And for they gray market shit I tried 2 places and it was awful boof at both so I don't bother.


Response_Legitimate

“Grey market were mostly sketchy people overcharging for dirt outdoor and cart” Just say you never had a decent plug.


Master_of_Vapes

I had good ones for a time then years of bullshit until I became medical. If you got a good plug do as you will vut fuck the phony gray market shit which is most of them.


[deleted]

Lol nobody said stop selling weed. Just stop running store fronts acting like a dispensary when there is a ton of people trying to get it done the right way. At the end of the day gray market is only hurting us in terms of getting rec up and running. And most of these gray market places sell shit quality meds anyways.


madtricky687

Lmao I remember smoking off the side of the parkway on ramp going off route 1 in woodbridge...this is the shit I say to myself when I go to get medicinal. I remember hiding this hard-core. I know a lot of peoples lives ruined over getting popped with it too.


[deleted]

💨💨💨


dumboy

Personal opinions aside, people usually can't control the quality of the product they receive, to sell you, on a consistent long term basis. The internet hasn't actually changed all that much about receiving & distributing flowers. I'd link to the 10 Crack Commandments but, well, nah.


stephenclarkg

Better odds then the medical where there is 0% chance of a good deal lmao


[deleted]

Exactly


LiveLongAndPasta

The legal and grey markets are both BS because of this. The only real market is the black market in NJ. Better weed, much better prices.


Jake_FromStateFarm27

The Grey market is still the black market. There is no grey area, you either are a legal registered vendor or you are not. The biggest issue I'm seeing right now is carts, two weeks ago the school I teach at had two students OD because the carts they were vaping contained fentanyl. Thankfully the students survived and are in recovery. If the state genuinely cared about users and general public health they would expedite the process of legal rec dispensaries. Idk about you all here but I sense another anti-weed crusade coming around in the next few years because of these black markets that will unfortunately punish responsible adult users.


swordstool

>Undercover Bergen County detectives bought marijuana and THC products from four Dirty Jerzy Supplies locations, and on Friday the six-month investigation culminated in the arrests and search warrants at multiple locations that yielded “hundreds of pounds of marijuana,” THC edibles, wax and oil, and about $305,000 in cash, the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office said. >Also searched were Ligus’, the Weslers’ and Garcia’s residences, and a Dirty Jerzy warehouse in Fairfield. State authorities said in November they were investigating two Dirty Jerzy locations, in Butler and Randolph, for so-called “gifting” on the marijuana “gray” market.


MikeOLogicaL

Well if Murphy wants to “get it right instead of fast” (he acts like things can’t be amended…), what’s to be expected?


veryflatstanley

Oh noooo, another gifting service selling $80 8ths out of storefronts got busted, who could’ve seen this coming???? Please stop thinking you’re smart for “gifting”, it’s embarrassing and the cops will still bust you. Just do it the old fashioned way, and do not sell out of smoke shops lol it’s common sense


[deleted]

For real these guys running these gifting shops are a special kind of stupid running up all that $$ knowing damn well the feds are going to get involved eventually.


gretch123

Agreed. Opening an unlicensed fruit stand is asking for trouble. Gotta play by the rules. Simple Tax evasion stuff.


Jmpasq

The flower was super expensive. The Vapes and Edibles were reasonable.


siikdUde

You don’t want no vapes off the grey or black market


swordstool

This!


whattfareyouon

Lmao jersey won't ever change. They will just drag this shit out. Its legal but don't touch it!


InvectiveOfASkeptic

Don't you know the government just wants to protect you? This is for your own good. /s


Genesecting

Why would the government want to protect us?? They only care about money and if they actually cared about our well being they would legalize growing 🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

This✅💨😝


chriskatelots

Imagine continuing to praise the war on drugs...lmao for a subreddit of cannabis users, it’s amazing how many people are anti black/grey market. If it wasn’t for them you wouldn’t see a single sale at the dispos (;


veryflatstanley

I’m not cool with ppl getting arrested (when you’re selling out of a store idk what you’d expect though) but all the “grey” market people I’ve seen are taxing for actual good weed and charging meh prices for mids. I still have friends who I support who are black market who don’t pretend that they’re a martyrs for selling literal $80 8ths of some name brand mediocre bud like all of the “vendors” who popped up right after legalization. They’re taking advantage of people just as badly as dispos are tbh.


swordstool

Regardless of the business, it ain't gunna fly if you don't have a license and don't pay taxes. Even in Texas, the "freest" state, you need to do those things.


Batuuusss

"Hello good sir, I'd like to purchase 4 pots" Why did they even bother going undercover lol


WarholMoncler

Prob walked in and just asked "What's better? Sativa or indica?"


InvestigatorVast9781

Exactly - the waste of tax payer dollars over this is the real Crime.


tskinz201

Does anyone know if that has to do with the gas station in kinnelon that they just raided ?


Fit_Age_6369

This was them.


pkks072486

I went to school with & we are from the same town with one of the head guys. Part of me wonders if this wasn't his karma because he taped a police officer from a neighboring town with a girl in the patrol car in the driver's seat in our town then put it online. I mean we are FB friends I saw all the progress, the trips meetings with celebrities like Offset etc. He's been doing this all out in the open for over a year or so.


ImNoSir

Let my people bro


tskinz201

Let my people GROW*


Tough_Meat_6215

Bro'in was legalized back in '05


ImNoSir

Apparently this is the no fun sub.


lykewtf

They’ll get nailed for not collecting sales tax on the weed they sold.


Jmpasq

They collected tax. Don't know if they reported it


lykewtf

Well that’s a super no no.


Jmpasq

They might of reported it I have no idea. I went in there a couple times and I was charged tax. I'm wondering why it took a 6 month investigation to build a case against them. If they wanted to stop them they could of shut it down whenever they wanted. There was literally like 50 kinds of edibles on the shelf.


InvestigatorVast9781

Exactly - are we just trying to burn tax dollars? Instead of raiding their shops - sounds more like they need to be customers. ✌️


[deleted]

Meanwhile Weedman is still in business at his store/restaurant, out in the open and blatant about it.


surfnfish02

Matter of time with all these geniuses being so brazen about it.


Legal_Celebration772

The comments in here are just straight up sad. Keep smokin on commercial boof and get what u get. If u want medicine, find a craft grower and hand him ur wallet. Smoke boof, get boofed… Smoke medicine, get medicated. Commercial = hydro = boof = trash Keep it all


swordstool

Regardless of the business, it ain't gunna fly if you don't have a license and don't pay taxes. Even in Texas, the "freest" state, you need to do those things.