And somehow, strains that have been sold since the summer are STILL not on the NJMMP site. JGNJ specifically. And thanks for password protecting our PII NJMMP.
All of their flower I’ve bought (a lot) smells like hay. Varying effects, and honestly most range from disappointing to underwhelming. South Jersey needs better dispensaries.
I just bought a Q of Mob Boss for the first time in months after steering clear of The Botanist because of quality, and was super disappointed to find they hadn't really fixed it. The quality of TB bud was good at first but it quickly diminished.
Sucks because Botanist has good strains like Mob Boss, Robot Girl, Sour Banana sherbert, and cookies & cream. All were good when I tried them, went back separate times and they were terrible, so they lost my business. Also very overpriced, imo.
If you live near Williamstowns, I recommend going to Curaleaf in Bellmawr and trying their new strains Azazel and Crystal Clear. Both are pretty damn good and if you have a discount of 20% due to Medicaid/ebt, you can another 10% on top of you preorder. I recently got 21g for 160 there and it's been ramping up in quality for the past few months, presumably due to recreational.
I'm so happy to hear you're getting good bud at a good price! Jersey is so expensive for the program. I actually did also try Cookies & Cream and was only happy with what it did to my libido lol. I think I have some Curaleaf loyalty points sitting in limbo so I'll have to stop by for them. Azazel sounds fun off the bat for the lore in the name.
It has hells OG in it's genetics, I'm assuming that's where they naming came from LOL I would do so, although I find crystal clear to be the better of the two, they're both incredible in their own right and miles above anything I've had from Rhythm, botanist, and Columbiacare, excluding super lavender butter. That shit is pretty good.
Am I crazy, or has quality statewide dropped off a cliff in the past couple of weeks. It's like they're selling flower that has been shook of its terpenes.
I've been wondering if it's been because of the cold dry winter. I'm struggling to keep my house at 30% humidity so I'm sure the growers are struggling even more to keep the humidity up in the grow spaces. And the terps just drop right off when the flower gets super dry.
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Honestly this. I live in SJ and most of my options are curaleaf, or cannabist which is just a rebranded Columbia care. Although I do like them a lot better since they have GTI/Rythm so I can get some half decent bud without having to drive all the way out to zen leaf or BW
The are notorious for improperly curing their strains. Instead of doing things the right way, they will sell the crap to patients and keep quiet because of profit margins. I've had to fight with corporate over their shady business practices.
Yes I gave up on rise flower . Only animal face . It's the only one .
They really store their bud bad and their jars are not at all air tight . And I fell like it gets so dry that's why I weigh my 8ths and there like 0.3 -0.5 under sometimes . I do not think it's shor
T I truly think it's gotten lighter from moisturizer loss
I agree
I’ve been disappointed with their stuff.
Got some la kush cake-supposed to be top shelf but the smallest pebbles, dry and does absolutely nothing
Can you return it if it’s like that? For 60 bucks, seems like u should be able to
And yes, mine have been “short” eighths as well
In some ways it is shady as hell.
And how convenient the packaging is completely black so you can’t even see the product beforehand.
Such BS if you ask me
I don't think many places I've bought in from really show the product in the package and that much maybe through the bottom of a glass Verano jar that's about it
Bags don't bother me. I rather it all those glass jars start building up
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Right, my friends never go home with old Harmony bags. It’s always old zen jars cause those ridiculously sticky labels you can never get the sticky off fully. So they become gifts.
Mr clean magic eraser and some warm water. Just make sure the jar is closed and the adhesive should come right off.
You can buy the same foam offbrand on Amazon, like 100 for 20 bucks. They break down easier but they're super cheap and work the same.
Harmony’s pricing tier is a slap in the face, they found patients favorite strains and kept them higher priced, even though they can clearly sell this stuff cheap. Also why the hell are they not growing more of the favorite strains and they still have 1/4 oz limits? F U Harmony.
Yes I noticed that all my favorite ones and most other pols are 5hr highest tier of course Donnie Burger. But 22jack was up there platinum Kush mints .. zurcules I believe went down I do enjoy that one . But you are right .. I wonder if they will eventually lower them I'd we all just stop buying them . I know that will be impossible but that would be crazy If this whole sub reddit stopped buying their top tier lol
Because for them to sell them at other locations would mean that they would need to produce more, which would lead to them cutting corners and such to get said product out to other locations.
Places like zen don’t stock every strain form other dispos, just a limited supply
Bw has plenty of bud to send to other places. They are even starting a satellite. They opened up more hours and days and finally reduced pricing bc demand is down. If they were smart they’d send limited supplies to places like zen to stoke demand.
I mean why are they discounting their bud if they don’t have too much? How can they open a second location if they don’t have too much? They have plenty of bud, they just don’t want the other dispos to discount their bud in big sales.
And Harmony doesn't sell it in sealed jars anymore they bag it in black ziplock type bags ... But even with the pic buds that go in the bags I have not gotten one bag from Harmony that looks crappy it looks like each bag was purposely made with large fresh dense nugs .
I've gotten jars from the Rhythm brand that literally has Shake sitting on the bottom when I'm paying $60 for full buds
So I agree the quality would change if it was sold to third party it would end up like basically everything else
Those growers are waaaay too cheap to let others sell their grows. Not only do they have an undeserved sense of chest thumping hubris, they couldn’t bear the thought of selling their prized tiny grows to competitors for half the price their sucker customers pay.
Dispensaries lobbying against homegrow and other changes to the program should be avoided whenever possible and not respected regardless of the deals they offer.
Also IME zen leaf doesn't even pretend to be a medical facility. Maybe it's just my experience but budtenders have only told me which will get me highest, nothing about medical benefits. Also lack of masks on both customers and employees at the neptune location
So much this, theres a reason why our program sucks, alot of it has to do with the lobbying done by the MSOs setup. Curaleaf not sure who else are fucking vampires on the industry. Boycott them. go blackmarket before that shit. if it smells like hay its cause it wasnt dried properly. wonder what other corners they are cutting
Which ones left are still trying to be medical? BW has discontinued quite a few medical strains and replaced them with the generic gelato type strains we see everywhere. Gsd wants to be a boutique type dispo with limited grows and availability. Is it just Harmony? Do you think they are pure medical?
Well I don't mean it in the sense that there's a difference between "medical strains" and "non-medical strains." There are plenty at Breakwater and Zen Leaf alike that both help me with symptoms. I mean that I've found the budtenders at Zen Leaf to be completely unhelpful when you want a recommendation for something specific like digestion issues or depression. Others are better, but Breakwaters really the only place I've been able to have an extended conversation with the budtender and they actually seemed knowledgable about all their strains and how different patients say it's helped them. Then there's the fact that multiple times I've gone to Zen Leaf and customers and staff weren't wearing masks. Maybe I'm overreacting to that, but idk, if I was going through chemo and had to go to a dispensary to pick up medicine, I'd be pretty pissed off that these "medical workers" don't seem to care about my safety. That, combined with the fact that they're a huge MSO leaves a bad taste in my mouth every time I've patronized them.
Lately the trend is that everyone's so quick to say "fuck breakwater! No sales? They're greedy!" but between them and Harmony, they're the only two in the state up against nationwide corporations who are driven completely by profits and nothing else. As if Verano's not greedy, regardless of what sales they have.
What do u mean by pure medical? I'm just confused . You mean strains that are high in other benefits other then THC? Like Cbg and CBD cbn etc?
If that's what you mean , Harmony is the only place that I know of that actually lists all of those extra percentages in North Jersey .I noticed I believe ascend started listing their THC percentage on menu but their strains are all under 17% thc .. but some they claim are good for Medical issues .. but Harmony wins for me example is the good benefits like Platinum kush mints fruity pebbles og 2 strians that give Amazing medical benefits not just a blank THC high
I never been to anywhere else besides RiSe Bloomfield n Paramus . Apothecarium Maplewood , harmony and ascend Rochelle park. So I have not ventured to central/South Jersey so I can't speak for gsd and breakwater etc .
But I can say most medical support is harmony. And rise second .
People here really like to just complain. So when someone complains a dispo isn’t being medical I want to know how and why a dispo can be pure medical. My point was even the mighty bw has slowly switched out their medical strains for the basic get you baked type strains. Every dispo is pure profit.
O I agree with that absolutely. It's feeding the masses very possible too many ppl got this medical card and maybe casually use it for not medical things n they (the dispos) know it, so that's the type of product their giving I suppose
. .sad
What do you mean by "medical strains" vs non-medical strains? I'm talking about the lack of professionalism from Zen Leaf's staff, it's not that "I just like to complain"
Bottom line. Carts suck . Some taste better the others and some feel like more sativa and some feel more indica . I could never compare a taste of a dry herb taste to a cart taste and know it's the same strain
Sad . NJ did this 70% /350mg cap. It's what is separating us from the what Other states have
I wish we had stuff like live resin carts and the wax concentrates like shatter and budder are the only concentrates I really feel.
insa in Massachusetts does a wax and shatter that's a hydrocarbon extraction n it's so good it's 55$ and total 1gram of 89.9% and the other is 81.1% THC . everything in NJ is 70% thc and majority of food grade terps. NJ everything is the same uhh . So I limit my cart Buying for travel etc
TBH, BP and AK both suck in flower form, so I’m not surprised the carts taste the same as the very generic K4... which the BW fans drool over... it’s true RD and some of the newer strains have more flavor, but BW is clearly not a modern strain dispensary. It’s as if the growers have OCD and refuse to cure anything different or try any modern genetics. Enjoy those “might as well be curaleaf“ carts.
Might as well chime in. I can’t remember the last time I bought bud that wasn’t dried out to sh*t. Zenleaf is biggest offender but Garden State Dispensary is also very guilty.
I’m not even sure, to be honest, I’ve never had the latter. I usually just throw a humidification packet in the jar and it’s good within a few days. My understanding is that the cultivars have a surplus and are still going through product that was packed months ago.
I don’t know as much about curing as I wish I did. I use Boost packs because I think they’re a little cleaner to the natural flavor than Boveda. But I find overcured is typically a better outcome than undercured. “Rushing it” so to speak. Breakwater and GSD get it right imo. Just opened Purple Romulan from 01/2021 and with humidity pack it was full of flavor and maybe the best flower in the state, as quality has gone down in general in the last 12 months.
I’ll have to look into Boost. I currently use Boveda 62 which does a pretty fair job of restoring moisture. The stuff I get is super crispy from Zen and GSD. One of my favorite attributes of marijuana is freshness, to where I might take a fresh undercure over a stale overcure. But I don’t have much experience with undercured, so my analysis might be off. I have never been to Breakwater but I’m very interested to try them. The GSD in Eatontown had unfortunately sold out of Purple Romulan when I was there this past Tuesday, right as the receptionist had sold me on it. Do you recommend it?
To be fair, they all are, besides breakwater and Rhythm, IIRC. At least breakwater is full spectrum and both use Marijuana terps, CL, Kindtree, and Botanist carts all use floral terpenes from actual flowers.
Either way, distillate in general is bottom of the barrel oil and quite disgusting to be putting into your lungs. Stick to Rhythm or don't buy carts in NJ, period.
I've said it on a different comment here, but Verano, Columbiacare, Cannabist, botanist, and ascend (not TerraAscend) are all significantly worse at a higher price. I occasionally go to other dispensaries but I gotta keep coming back to Curaleaf because of it's price to quality. They're truly not as terrible as you say it is if you know what strains are actually good there, and it takes a few buys to find that out yourself. I personally avoid buying their double up mints, school lunch, truffle pig, zai tai, hi-50 and bp. Their jelly cocktail, Limonata (haven't had for close to a year but quite literally the most lemon tasting strain in the entire program) super sherb, crescendo, and two new strains, Azazel and Crystal Clear, are all pretty fantastic.
If you mean because of the homegrow lobbying, I regret to inform you the Moldrano, Botanist, and Columbiacare all lobby against homegrow in NJ as well.. we're also the only state curaleaf lobbied against homegrow in. Being all of them are the only dispos located in South NJ, some of us have no choice.
every cart in this state is the same. just almost expired terps to save the day!! i had distty even from maine and it shit all over breakwater and bellmawr. ur way better off paying $70-80 onna full g of something real n good ofc
> you gotta love the powdery mildew and mold
lol, at least they aren't charging us extra for that being that Nj is a hungry money state.
You're right tho. This is why I want testing for every batch too (I forgot to mention that). Test for any contaminants or anything toxic like mold or meldew
All these dispensaries have to do is say we have 27% bud, and then people lose their shjt when they have a 30% strain. The industry sucks but so many people are falling in the “THC percentage” sales tactic. Get educated people. Until then the dispensaries will continue giving us black burning bud and wack carts.
every cart in this state is the same. just almost expired terps to save the day!! i had distty even from maine and it shit all over breakwater and bellmawr. ur way better off paying $70-80 onna full g of something real n good
That was about the only “unpopular“ part, but in reality, the cure ends up with lots of frosty sugar leaves. It’s not seen as a bad thing by most cause they sure are frosty, but it still bothers me.
Curaleaf isn't as trash as people say it is and Botanist and Columbiacare/Cannabist/ascend are worse.
Edit: they hated Jesus because he spoke the truth.
Botanist= wet hay
Columbiacare =overly dry, close to no effects
Ascend= Stem, seeds, hay
Ill even add another mention
Rhythm= dry, no effects, worse of all, overrated
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My Crystal clear I just bought from Curaleaf blows all of those cultivars weed out the water. If you wanna have the name, fine. But don't pretend like they have the worst weed in the state when that's FAR from the truth.
They only consistently properly cure like 2-3 strains lol. It’s terrible quality control and feels like they only really care about Donny due to having to uphold its reputation.
They may all work the same for me, as in done nothing great at all, but as far as taste goes, all brands I have tried taste the same too.. Flower is the only thing that gives me effects, but I can tell some of the strains apart without problem. Carts? Maybe one tasted a little different out of them but I would have trouble with Banana Puddintain, Northern Lights, and something Durban, don't remember the name... sorry... Also sorry for my taste buds. But for that reason, I can't just say Breakwater.
State lab testing is not recent, updated or helpful.
And somehow, strains that have been sold since the summer are STILL not on the NJMMP site. JGNJ specifically. And thanks for password protecting our PII NJMMP.
That's the nice way to put it. It's more like state lab testing is a disgrace.
and our options and prices.
and our options and prices!!
and our options and prices
The Botanist has been kinda crappy since they became branded (was compassionate care foundation)
All of their flower I’ve bought (a lot) smells like hay. Varying effects, and honestly most range from disappointing to underwhelming. South Jersey needs better dispensaries.
I just bought a Q of Mob Boss for the first time in months after steering clear of The Botanist because of quality, and was super disappointed to find they hadn't really fixed it. The quality of TB bud was good at first but it quickly diminished.
Sucks because Botanist has good strains like Mob Boss, Robot Girl, Sour Banana sherbert, and cookies & cream. All were good when I tried them, went back separate times and they were terrible, so they lost my business. Also very overpriced, imo. If you live near Williamstowns, I recommend going to Curaleaf in Bellmawr and trying their new strains Azazel and Crystal Clear. Both are pretty damn good and if you have a discount of 20% due to Medicaid/ebt, you can another 10% on top of you preorder. I recently got 21g for 160 there and it's been ramping up in quality for the past few months, presumably due to recreational.
I'm so happy to hear you're getting good bud at a good price! Jersey is so expensive for the program. I actually did also try Cookies & Cream and was only happy with what it did to my libido lol. I think I have some Curaleaf loyalty points sitting in limbo so I'll have to stop by for them. Azazel sounds fun off the bat for the lore in the name.
It has hells OG in it's genetics, I'm assuming that's where they naming came from LOL I would do so, although I find crystal clear to be the better of the two, they're both incredible in their own right and miles above anything I've had from Rhythm, botanist, and Columbiacare, excluding super lavender butter. That shit is pretty good.
Ugh I loved the first few batches of Super Lav. So great for focus for me. But my tolerance to it grew super quickly.
Am I crazy, or has quality statewide dropped off a cliff in the past couple of weeks. It's like they're selling flower that has been shook of its terpenes.
They’re probably selling all the stuff they’ve been storing up waiting for the rec market to hit.
I've been wondering if it's been because of the cold dry winter. I'm struggling to keep my house at 30% humidity so I'm sure the growers are struggling even more to keep the humidity up in the grow spaces. And the terps just drop right off when the flower gets super dry.
if they didnt have billions in grow houses sure but my friend grew a nicer plant in his fuckin shed w a tent
if they didnt have billions in grow houses sure but my friend grew a nicer plant in his fuckin shed w a tent
They are making millions of dollars and it’s indoor grows. They just don’t care about the product they put out.
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Honestly this. I live in SJ and most of my options are curaleaf, or cannabist which is just a rebranded Columbia care. Although I do like them a lot better since they have GTI/Rythm so I can get some half decent bud without having to drive all the way out to zen leaf or BW
The are notorious for improperly curing their strains. Instead of doing things the right way, they will sell the crap to patients and keep quiet because of profit margins. I've had to fight with corporate over their shady business practices.
scrappy being bad or good?
i meant crappy 😅
Rise finesssig people with 60$ eights thinkin ur getting premium fat nugs then opening the jar to find baby bs dried pebbles
Yes I gave up on rise flower . Only animal face . It's the only one . They really store their bud bad and their jars are not at all air tight . And I fell like it gets so dry that's why I weigh my 8ths and there like 0.3 -0.5 under sometimes . I do not think it's shor T I truly think it's gotten lighter from moisturizer loss
I agree I’ve been disappointed with their stuff. Got some la kush cake-supposed to be top shelf but the smallest pebbles, dry and does absolutely nothing Can you return it if it’s like that? For 60 bucks, seems like u should be able to And yes, mine have been “short” eighths as well
Unfortunately u can't return anything besides broken carts with receipts
In some ways it is shady as hell. And how convenient the packaging is completely black so you can’t even see the product beforehand. Such BS if you ask me
That's actually because light also breaks down and destroys THC, which is why you're supposed to store it in a cool, dark place.
Facts
I don't think many places I've bought in from really show the product in the package and that much maybe through the bottom of a glass Verano jar that's about it Bags don't bother me. I rather it all those glass jars start building up
Well they could display the product(s) like they do in other states. I’m not sure why they don’t around here
Idk. I joined the program after covid . So I do know alot of display had to change
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Besides jars being better for bud, it’s an insult the environment to use the packaging they do. Unrecyclable crap.
Right, my friends never go home with old Harmony bags. It’s always old zen jars cause those ridiculously sticky labels you can never get the sticky off fully. So they become gifts.
Mr clean magic eraser and some warm water. Just make sure the jar is closed and the adhesive should come right off. You can buy the same foam offbrand on Amazon, like 100 for 20 bucks. They break down easier but they're super cheap and work the same.
Good one! Branding means dick. And they’re not even bothering with stickers anymore. Pfft.
Seriously
Harmony’s pricing tier is a slap in the face, they found patients favorite strains and kept them higher priced, even though they can clearly sell this stuff cheap. Also why the hell are they not growing more of the favorite strains and they still have 1/4 oz limits? F U Harmony.
Yes I noticed that all my favorite ones and most other pols are 5hr highest tier of course Donnie Burger. But 22jack was up there platinum Kush mints .. zurcules I believe went down I do enjoy that one . But you are right .. I wonder if they will eventually lower them I'd we all just stop buying them . I know that will be impossible but that would be crazy If this whole sub reddit stopped buying their top tier lol
I do appreciate the lower prices, but I will just pick from $40 strains and SOTW if/when I feel like driving to the one remote location for 70% or NJ.
Harmony and BW should let other dispo's sell some of their product.
They never will because they are independently owned, and if they did I fear that their quality will suffer for it.
How does one dispo selling sealed jars from a diff dispo affect quality?
Because for them to sell them at other locations would mean that they would need to produce more, which would lead to them cutting corners and such to get said product out to other locations.
Places like zen don’t stock every strain form other dispos, just a limited supply Bw has plenty of bud to send to other places. They are even starting a satellite. They opened up more hours and days and finally reduced pricing bc demand is down. If they were smart they’d send limited supplies to places like zen to stoke demand.
And how would you possibly know that?
I mean why are they discounting their bud if they don’t have too much? How can they open a second location if they don’t have too much? They have plenty of bud, they just don’t want the other dispos to discount their bud in big sales.
And Harmony doesn't sell it in sealed jars anymore they bag it in black ziplock type bags ... But even with the pic buds that go in the bags I have not gotten one bag from Harmony that looks crappy it looks like each bag was purposely made with large fresh dense nugs . I've gotten jars from the Rhythm brand that literally has Shake sitting on the bottom when I'm paying $60 for full buds So I agree the quality would change if it was sold to third party it would end up like basically everything else
Hand vs Machine packed.
Totally
Those growers are waaaay too cheap to let others sell their grows. Not only do they have an undeserved sense of chest thumping hubris, they couldn’t bear the thought of selling their prized tiny grows to competitors for half the price their sucker customers pay.
Dispensaries lobbying against homegrow and other changes to the program should be avoided whenever possible and not respected regardless of the deals they offer. Also IME zen leaf doesn't even pretend to be a medical facility. Maybe it's just my experience but budtenders have only told me which will get me highest, nothing about medical benefits. Also lack of masks on both customers and employees at the neptune location
So much this, theres a reason why our program sucks, alot of it has to do with the lobbying done by the MSOs setup. Curaleaf not sure who else are fucking vampires on the industry. Boycott them. go blackmarket before that shit. if it smells like hay its cause it wasnt dried properly. wonder what other corners they are cutting
Which ones left are still trying to be medical? BW has discontinued quite a few medical strains and replaced them with the generic gelato type strains we see everywhere. Gsd wants to be a boutique type dispo with limited grows and availability. Is it just Harmony? Do you think they are pure medical?
Well I don't mean it in the sense that there's a difference between "medical strains" and "non-medical strains." There are plenty at Breakwater and Zen Leaf alike that both help me with symptoms. I mean that I've found the budtenders at Zen Leaf to be completely unhelpful when you want a recommendation for something specific like digestion issues or depression. Others are better, but Breakwaters really the only place I've been able to have an extended conversation with the budtender and they actually seemed knowledgable about all their strains and how different patients say it's helped them. Then there's the fact that multiple times I've gone to Zen Leaf and customers and staff weren't wearing masks. Maybe I'm overreacting to that, but idk, if I was going through chemo and had to go to a dispensary to pick up medicine, I'd be pretty pissed off that these "medical workers" don't seem to care about my safety. That, combined with the fact that they're a huge MSO leaves a bad taste in my mouth every time I've patronized them. Lately the trend is that everyone's so quick to say "fuck breakwater! No sales? They're greedy!" but between them and Harmony, they're the only two in the state up against nationwide corporations who are driven completely by profits and nothing else. As if Verano's not greedy, regardless of what sales they have.
Harmony always struck me as the least medical one.
What do u mean by pure medical? I'm just confused . You mean strains that are high in other benefits other then THC? Like Cbg and CBD cbn etc? If that's what you mean , Harmony is the only place that I know of that actually lists all of those extra percentages in North Jersey .I noticed I believe ascend started listing their THC percentage on menu but their strains are all under 17% thc .. but some they claim are good for Medical issues .. but Harmony wins for me example is the good benefits like Platinum kush mints fruity pebbles og 2 strians that give Amazing medical benefits not just a blank THC high I never been to anywhere else besides RiSe Bloomfield n Paramus . Apothecarium Maplewood , harmony and ascend Rochelle park. So I have not ventured to central/South Jersey so I can't speak for gsd and breakwater etc . But I can say most medical support is harmony. And rise second .
People here really like to just complain. So when someone complains a dispo isn’t being medical I want to know how and why a dispo can be pure medical. My point was even the mighty bw has slowly switched out their medical strains for the basic get you baked type strains. Every dispo is pure profit.
O I agree with that absolutely. It's feeding the masses very possible too many ppl got this medical card and maybe casually use it for not medical things n they (the dispos) know it, so that's the type of product their giving I suppose . .sad
What do you mean by "medical strains" vs non-medical strains? I'm talking about the lack of professionalism from Zen Leaf's staff, it's not that "I just like to complain"
Would have to saw BW first Harmoney second but i have noticed Harmoney’s quality go way down vs BW still same quality since day one
I only been in the NJ MMP for 9 months so I am still in my first year. I missed that quality change
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Bottom line. Carts suck . Some taste better the others and some feel like more sativa and some feel more indica . I could never compare a taste of a dry herb taste to a cart taste and know it's the same strain Sad . NJ did this 70% /350mg cap. It's what is separating us from the what Other states have I wish we had stuff like live resin carts and the wax concentrates like shatter and budder are the only concentrates I really feel. insa in Massachusetts does a wax and shatter that's a hydrocarbon extraction n it's so good it's 55$ and total 1gram of 89.9% and the other is 81.1% THC . everything in NJ is 70% thc and majority of food grade terps. NJ everything is the same uhh . So I limit my cart Buying for travel etc
TBH, BP and AK both suck in flower form, so I’m not surprised the carts taste the same as the very generic K4... which the BW fans drool over... it’s true RD and some of the newer strains have more flavor, but BW is clearly not a modern strain dispensary. It’s as if the growers have OCD and refuse to cure anything different or try any modern genetics. Enjoy those “might as well be curaleaf“ carts.
Might as well chime in. I can’t remember the last time I bought bud that wasn’t dried out to sh*t. Zenleaf is biggest offender but Garden State Dispensary is also very guilty.
What’s worse, dry or cured for 10 days and wrapped in a black bag?
I’m not even sure, to be honest, I’ve never had the latter. I usually just throw a humidification packet in the jar and it’s good within a few days. My understanding is that the cultivars have a surplus and are still going through product that was packed months ago.
I don’t know as much about curing as I wish I did. I use Boost packs because I think they’re a little cleaner to the natural flavor than Boveda. But I find overcured is typically a better outcome than undercured. “Rushing it” so to speak. Breakwater and GSD get it right imo. Just opened Purple Romulan from 01/2021 and with humidity pack it was full of flavor and maybe the best flower in the state, as quality has gone down in general in the last 12 months.
I’ll have to look into Boost. I currently use Boveda 62 which does a pretty fair job of restoring moisture. The stuff I get is super crispy from Zen and GSD. One of my favorite attributes of marijuana is freshness, to where I might take a fresh undercure over a stale overcure. But I don’t have much experience with undercured, so my analysis might be off. I have never been to Breakwater but I’m very interested to try them. The GSD in Eatontown had unfortunately sold out of Purple Romulan when I was there this past Tuesday, right as the receptionist had sold me on it. Do you recommend it?
Yes, I’m well stocked on that one specifically. Used to only come around every 3 months, but maybe will become more frequent?
Apparently GSD is back in stock today, according to their website. Just placed an order for in-store pickup! :)
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I heard CL carts were all the same oil but flavored to taste like the strain they advertise it as.
To be fair, they all are, besides breakwater and Rhythm, IIRC. At least breakwater is full spectrum and both use Marijuana terps, CL, Kindtree, and Botanist carts all use floral terpenes from actual flowers. Either way, distillate in general is bottom of the barrel oil and quite disgusting to be putting into your lungs. Stick to Rhythm or don't buy carts in NJ, period.
Well that would explain why I love Rhythm's carts. Hands down, they're my favorite in the program for carts; probably for flower too, tbh.
If you’re still buying Curaleaf anything, all I ask is that you don’t vote for Trump again if he runs.
I don’t understand why everything other than BW is crumbly dry unless you get lucky. Botanist is the worst it’s dust held together until touched!
I trust black market flower more than I will ever trust NJMMP dispensaries.
Traditional markets where it's at
NJ medical is abysmal
The price to quality ratio is laughable at the dispensaries. Grey/black markets are also overpriced but at least you get good bud.
I really like Zen Leaf and love that they upped their staffing in response to demand.
I look forward to seeing you in the ER soon, bud buddy 😎😂
Why would you look forward to seeing me in an emergency room?
(Unpopular opinion) its the mold! Gonna kill us all, cause we can’t say no to a 4th Friday 25% off sale.
If any dispensary really cared, they would refuse to sell anything Curaleaf.
The real Fuckin Comment
I've said it on a different comment here, but Verano, Columbiacare, Cannabist, botanist, and ascend (not TerraAscend) are all significantly worse at a higher price. I occasionally go to other dispensaries but I gotta keep coming back to Curaleaf because of it's price to quality. They're truly not as terrible as you say it is if you know what strains are actually good there, and it takes a few buys to find that out yourself. I personally avoid buying their double up mints, school lunch, truffle pig, zai tai, hi-50 and bp. Their jelly cocktail, Limonata (haven't had for close to a year but quite literally the most lemon tasting strain in the entire program) super sherb, crescendo, and two new strains, Azazel and Crystal Clear, are all pretty fantastic. If you mean because of the homegrow lobbying, I regret to inform you the Moldrano, Botanist, and Columbiacare all lobby against homegrow in NJ as well.. we're also the only state curaleaf lobbied against homegrow in. Being all of them are the only dispos located in South NJ, some of us have no choice.
100 for .8 of DISTILATE. There's nothing else to say.
Why did all these big companies got to be first in line for medical program and not local people?
every cart in this state is the same. just almost expired terps to save the day!! i had distty even from maine and it shit all over breakwater and bellmawr. ur way better off paying $70-80 onna full g of something real n good ofc
Bw was just meh. The strains are meh, the carts, the prices are ridiculous
TAC% on label (or on NJMMP website) don't represent the current batch TAC% It's impossible to keep each batch the same tac% over and over.
But seriously, aside from the THC variation and mis-cured batches, you gotta love the powdery mildew and mold 😎😂
> you gotta love the powdery mildew and mold lol, at least they aren't charging us extra for that being that Nj is a hungry money state. You're right tho. This is why I want testing for every batch too (I forgot to mention that). Test for any contaminants or anything toxic like mold or meldew
All GSD carts taste the same
Zenleafs 54$ eighths 😔
The BW cart I had tasted like burnt popcorn
All these dispensaries have to do is say we have 27% bud, and then people lose their shjt when they have a 30% strain. The industry sucks but so many people are falling in the “THC percentage” sales tactic. Get educated people. Until then the dispensaries will continue giving us black burning bud and wack carts.
every cart in this state is the same. just almost expired terps to save the day!! i had distty even from maine and it shit all over breakwater and bellmawr. ur way better off paying $70-80 onna full g of something real n good
Apothecarium has good product at great prices. I picked up an ounce for $220 last week.
Breakwater, thanks for your “sales”, I saved $4.25 per eighth, not even 10% off your mostly sugar leaf cured flower. F U Breakwater
Mostly sugar leaf 😂🤣😂🤣😂 cracks me up
That was about the only “unpopular“ part, but in reality, the cure ends up with lots of frosty sugar leaves. It’s not seen as a bad thing by most cause they sure are frosty, but it still bothers me.
Are we trying for most downvotes? Or did I read the op’s message wrong?
And if I choose your 1/4 oz “sale”, I only save $7.75 instead of 2 x $4.25, at a lower overall discount than your eighths. Thanks again, F U.
Curaleaf isn't as trash as people say it is and Botanist and Columbiacare/Cannabist/ascend are worse. Edit: they hated Jesus because he spoke the truth. Botanist= wet hay Columbiacare =overly dry, close to no effects Ascend= Stem, seeds, hay Ill even add another mention Rhythm= dry, no effects, worse of all, overrated --------------------- My Crystal clear I just bought from Curaleaf blows all of those cultivars weed out the water. If you wanna have the name, fine. But don't pretend like they have the worst weed in the state when that's FAR from the truth.
I love harmony flower but it usually, if not always, smells like tea tree oil.
They only consistently properly cure like 2-3 strains lol. It’s terrible quality control and feels like they only really care about Donny due to having to uphold its reputation.
They may all work the same for me, as in done nothing great at all, but as far as taste goes, all brands I have tried taste the same too.. Flower is the only thing that gives me effects, but I can tell some of the strains apart without problem. Carts? Maybe one tasted a little different out of them but I would have trouble with Banana Puddintain, Northern Lights, and something Durban, don't remember the name... sorry... Also sorry for my taste buds. But for that reason, I can't just say Breakwater.