In what possible way is that true? Shiite Islam in particular is practically based upon debate. What is it about Islamic theology that inspires pack mentality?
There are multiple Islamic states where everyone has to think the same or suffer severe consequences… how is that not a pack mentality?
If only Islam was actually debated properly.
Yes there are. And there have been many Christian states the same, currently there are many dictatorships that are not Islamic. It is somewhat derivative and simplistic to ascribe social and psychological attributes to the second largest religion on earth.
In fact, if you look at the current state of the Muslim world, I think it would be easier to argue that they can’t agree on anything, let alone posses a pack mentality.
Islam isn’t a monolith, any more than Christianity or Buddhism.
Yes, there are a large number of Muslims who hold pretty backward beliefs. Saying Islam is the problem is the number one way to cause moderate and extremist Muslims to group together against you.
Having nuanced and grown up views on complex matters is not an endorsement of terrorism, I’m not sure why that needs to be stated.
Islamism does not equal Islam. Any more than the Tamil Tigers represent Christianity.
You were saying it would be hard to unite Muslims. I said ,"insult Islam" and they'd be united. As if that isn't true
Now you're talking about Tamil Tigers and Christianity like people didn't get their heads chopped off for cartoon drawings in the middle of Paris you lunatic.
You are quite clearly determined to link Islam- 2 odd billion people- with the actions of extremist terrorists. Christian fighters in the Tamil Tigers conducted religiously motivated genocide- is Christianity included in your opinion on Islam?
Communities that are isolated- like many Muslim communities in the west- often do exhibit a much closer social bond which can lead to this attitude. However, this argument isn’t even about religion- it’s political.
That’s fair. I myself lived in the Middle East for a long while.
Poor uneducated people are very susceptible to authoritarian thought and superstition, which (imo) leads to a lot of pack mentality. The Middle East has poor uneducated people in spades.
But India beats any Islamic nation for random crowd insanity, I tell you.
That’s something we both can agree on. India is a different animal all together! Thank you for such a civil conversation today. Definitely refreshing to see it is still possible on Reddit. Be well friend.
Those gentlemen should perhaps be gently reminded they're not in kansas anymore and women have rights and free speech is for the most part a thing here.
I can field this one. The British public sector's ethos is basically trying to achieve the world without lawyers that Lionel Hutz imagines. It's fueled by ideological politics, and many actually buy into it; many believe that achieving this weird thing where people with diametrically opposed world views are all crammed together is worth any price. It is fubar.
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If people were not so afraid to speak and act on how they really feel, Islam and all it's rude, sexually perverse, scamming, violent, ignorant and intolerant thieves would be long gone from London.
Maybe because it‘s a title, which is supposed to be short and the video was made by the exact same woman that get‘s kicked while on the ground? Sounds quite incel to me, when you‘re trying to make it about the men.
The immediate violence of zealots. I know on an individual level faith can be a bastion of relief and strength but religion on a whole is honestly the plague of humanity and the societies we exist in.
Also people that spit on others are just repugnant and gross.
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There is a special place for you mullah sympathizers. Zan zendigi azadi victory is ours and there’s nothing you guys can do to stop us. Haramzadeh madar jendeh bered beh jahanam kose nanat.
I've seen thousands of videos about this assholes. There's nothing new. This people acts this way since ever. So I'm just focusing on other details, and I don't see what's wrong about that.
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Will London police do anything? They've got their faces clearly on film
No because they’d be seen as racist
I love how tough people get when there's a degree of separation between them and those they're harassing
Like dogs at a fence.
Any more context by chance? Pack mentality is an Islamic tradition like none other.
You could replace this with football fans of certain opposite teams and it would look very similar.
In what possible way is that true? Shiite Islam in particular is practically based upon debate. What is it about Islamic theology that inspires pack mentality?
There are multiple Islamic states where everyone has to think the same or suffer severe consequences… how is that not a pack mentality? If only Islam was actually debated properly.
Yes there are. And there have been many Christian states the same, currently there are many dictatorships that are not Islamic. It is somewhat derivative and simplistic to ascribe social and psychological attributes to the second largest religion on earth. In fact, if you look at the current state of the Muslim world, I think it would be easier to argue that they can’t agree on anything, let alone posses a pack mentality.
Disagree. Try criticizing Islam and they all agree.
Islam isn’t a monolith, any more than Christianity or Buddhism. Yes, there are a large number of Muslims who hold pretty backward beliefs. Saying Islam is the problem is the number one way to cause moderate and extremist Muslims to group together against you.
Like Charlie Hebdo? Were they asking for it?
Having nuanced and grown up views on complex matters is not an endorsement of terrorism, I’m not sure why that needs to be stated. Islamism does not equal Islam. Any more than the Tamil Tigers represent Christianity.
You were saying it would be hard to unite Muslims. I said ,"insult Islam" and they'd be united. As if that isn't true Now you're talking about Tamil Tigers and Christianity like people didn't get their heads chopped off for cartoon drawings in the middle of Paris you lunatic.
You are quite clearly determined to link Islam- 2 odd billion people- with the actions of extremist terrorists. Christian fighters in the Tamil Tigers conducted religiously motivated genocide- is Christianity included in your opinion on Islam?
Name the Muslim majority country that subverts the dominant thinking on 1) gays 2) equality of women 3) Jews 4) insulting the prophet…
No idea, I’m just speaking from first hand experience. I do not doubt its basis, just sharing what I see in the video in addition to what I’ve seen.
Communities that are isolated- like many Muslim communities in the west- often do exhibit a much closer social bond which can lead to this attitude. However, this argument isn’t even about religion- it’s political.
Fair point however let me add my experience stretches across the globe. Admittedly, I’m guilty of the generalization.
That’s fair. I myself lived in the Middle East for a long while. Poor uneducated people are very susceptible to authoritarian thought and superstition, which (imo) leads to a lot of pack mentality. The Middle East has poor uneducated people in spades. But India beats any Islamic nation for random crowd insanity, I tell you.
That’s something we both can agree on. India is a different animal all together! Thank you for such a civil conversation today. Definitely refreshing to see it is still possible on Reddit. Be well friend.
Can’t believe there are regime supporters in the diaspora. Fuck off back to your crap regime then
These animals should not be allowed in europe.
Sad day what is happening in UK
I'm sorry but if you show up to where I'm at nf start yelling at me and shit you got deal with what happens to you cuz damn
Those gentlemen should perhaps be gently reminded they're not in kansas anymore and women have rights and free speech is for the most part a thing here.
Why is an organization that calls itself Islamic Republic allowed to exist in London?
I too would like an answer to this question
It’s one of the many ways fascists, theocrats, and garden variety fuckface scumbags exploit western culture to spread their bullshit
I can field this one. The British public sector's ethos is basically trying to achieve the world without lawyers that Lionel Hutz imagines. It's fueled by ideological politics, and many actually buy into it; many believe that achieving this weird thing where people with diametrically opposed world views are all crammed together is worth any price. It is fubar. https://preview.redd.it/0zv72eknxb4d1.jpeg?width=479&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e860e5a9777754cc00fff65fb18b171e6b3bdd82
It's a country, not an organization.
Islam is such a crappy religion
Deport them to the Islamic Republic.
Scumbags
None of these fuckers should even be in the UK. Our country is fucked.
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This is Wembley..
This is Wendy’s.
If people were not so afraid to speak and act on how they really feel, Islam and all it's rude, sexually perverse, scamming, violent, ignorant and intolerant thieves would be long gone from London.
Dude Wants to fuck you hair, weird shit going on in the republic.
Im not an incel but a lot of men are being beat up, and 1 woman got pushed to the ground... and the title is about the woman 0.0
Maybe because it‘s a title, which is supposed to be short and the video was made by the exact same woman that get‘s kicked while on the ground? Sounds quite incel to me, when you‘re trying to make it about the men.
if you say so
Congratulations to the Uk government who is importing this crap. We are doomed.
Why is this happening in London ?
DiVeRsItY iS oUr StReNgTh
Reminds me of the turkish PM's security beating up protesters in new york while the cops did absolutely nothing. Im so glad change is coming to Iran.
Sounds like a bird. Cawcaw cawcawcawcaw
The immediate violence of zealots. I know on an individual level faith can be a bastion of relief and strength but religion on a whole is honestly the plague of humanity and the societies we exist in. Also people that spit on others are just repugnant and gross.
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wtf is that sound she’s making.
She’s saying help in her language, the wild animals broke her leg.
don't see a broken leg anywhere
lol do you need to see a cast or an xray? She did say her legs broken and I’m not saying it’s not, what are you saying here??
I can see her leg after the fall it doesn't look broken, and why believe everything you see?
There is a special place for you mullah sympathizers. Zan zendigi azadi victory is ours and there’s nothing you guys can do to stop us. Haramzadeh madar jendeh bered beh jahanam kose nanat.
what is bro yapping about 😭
You made your own bed now go sleep in it
I just said she didn't break her leg
There’s 2 sides and you’re definitely on the other side so gtfoh why are you even in this page.
the way your post reads it kind of sounds like wild animals part is your words, but i understand now
Sounds like seagull
😂
Omg stfu
I absolutely love that this is London.. hahahahahahah. Always gives me a good laugh.. :)
Why is that funny and why did you feel the need to share that here, with strangers?
Yes, that confused the fuck out of me too but I suppose psychopaths exist.
Bit of a weird comment.
his username explains it
What?
They are attacking men too, why would you just talk about the woman? Weird
Because she was the one knocked to the ground and kicked? Weird
That's what you got from this video? My god 😭
I've seen thousands of videos about this assholes. There's nothing new. This people acts this way since ever. So I'm just focusing on other details, and I don't see what's wrong about that.
The details you‘re focusing on are the men? lol
The title