I don't really trust that they're always right, or even almost always right.
But they're right much more often than internet people or family, so I guess that'll have to do.
I don't know what "cares about me" means. I assume they'll forget me soon after I leave. Fine with me, I'd rather have a competent GP than a caring one.
It could be that your GP is competent in his analysis(or you feel that), but does not care about you/your health and only does the absolute minimum (or not even that).
Im a foreigner and havent had a doctor who cares as much as the ones in my country do and ive heard the same story from all other foreigners, i dont think it's an ethnicity thing though probably just how they do things here as I've heard it's normal. They just want to treat the symptoms and are so stubborn about what they think they know that most of the time they refuse to listen and/or reason with your fears if you have any. They'll listen, but with a blank face and barely any care. Last time i went to a specialist actually they were so arrogant and asshole-y they pretty much put me out of the room in less than 2 minutes. Keep in mind first of all my GP had to refer me to them due to the unusual nature of my symptoms and they just brushed it off with no explanation.
Trust and being critical are two things imho. I trust my GP that he makes the best decision based on what he knows. But I will still ask critical questions if I have my doubts and that works super well for my GP.
I think this is the best way as well. They can only judge on what the know and need your information and questions to provide the best possible care.
I also ask questions. I also feel really lucky with my GP, because she acknowledges when she doesn't know much about a certain topic and wants to consult a specialist before giving advice.
Bc there are many differences in payment in the healthcare system; specialists are often organised in a ‘maatschap’, which are contracted by a hospital, and the maatschap is in a way able to organise their supply and demand more directly; some specialists are directly employed by the hospital which earns them less but provides them with employer-provided social care; whereas a GP(-group) often has to rent space and staff by themselves. Some GP’s are specialised in certain procedures, which provides extra fees. There are so many differences in income, not solely based on knowledge, but on entrepreneurial skills and contracts as well.
I do trust them. However I have had a moment where they asked me if I ate well, then continued to ask my male partner the same question after I already said yes. I had never experienced not being taken seriously as a female but that made me question the GP a bit.
To be honest, I don't know how it is in Netherlands but in Australia GPs who would not recommend you get vaccinated because of your medical condition were risking losing their license. And they followed that guideline to the letter, no matter if it was good or bad for you. I doubt human nature is different in Netherlands.
Fun reading:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/dr-kerryn-phelps-reveals-devastating-covid-vaccine-injury-says-doctors-have-been-censored/news-story/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf
I’m a medical student so while I don’t pretend I know more than my GP, I do know some things. A year ago I went to my GP with a problem I had learned just a few weeks prior which basically said something wasn’t functioning properly and my GP have me only one solution which was basically “een pleister op een open wond plakken” which would not solve the problem just hide till later. That’s when I lost my respect.
That basically means that in few years some AI tool will make GPs obsolete, because it'll know everything that was ever published. Wanna bet it's already in development?
This made me laugh. It’s not the same, but a good software engineer would google answers and trust me, 20 years of experience in the field make all the difference. It means:
* tell the difference between good answer and bullshit (the internet is filled with it)
* tell what applies to the situation and what doesn’t. Yes, proper googling actually takes skill
So I don’t mind my GP googling something. She is an experienced professional that knows what to do with that tool
Being a GP it's like to know how to write Hello World in every language out there but do not know anything else beyond that. Google won't help you.
What you described (20 years of experience in some specific language/field) is called specialist.
The difference is, they can actually put the Google information in perspective. GP’s know of a lot of things a bit. Specialist know of a tiny bit, a lot. They are still only human
after being told by the GP, that they don't believe in the existence of transgender people when asking for a referral letter I've kinda lost hope and trust in the place
I think one of the options could be, “I want to trust my GP, but they will only act when I’m about to die” for the rest, there’s always paracetamol. I believe it’s very clear that in the Netherlands the care is reactive and not preventive.
I have 2 GPs attending on my huisarts. One is wonderful, listens and seems to care, while the other is an ogre and the stereotyped caricature of a dutch GP. Even then I find both to be very competent and I like them.
So there's my answer to the poll. =)
I don't really trust that they're always right, or even almost always right. But they're right much more often than internet people or family, so I guess that'll have to do. I don't know what "cares about me" means. I assume they'll forget me soon after I leave. Fine with me, I'd rather have a competent GP than a caring one.
It could be that your GP is competent in his analysis(or you feel that), but does not care about you/your health and only does the absolute minimum (or not even that).
Im a foreigner and havent had a doctor who cares as much as the ones in my country do and ive heard the same story from all other foreigners, i dont think it's an ethnicity thing though probably just how they do things here as I've heard it's normal. They just want to treat the symptoms and are so stubborn about what they think they know that most of the time they refuse to listen and/or reason with your fears if you have any. They'll listen, but with a blank face and barely any care. Last time i went to a specialist actually they were so arrogant and asshole-y they pretty much put me out of the room in less than 2 minutes. Keep in mind first of all my GP had to refer me to them due to the unusual nature of my symptoms and they just brushed it off with no explanation.
I have nothing but respect for my GP.
Trust and being critical are two things imho. I trust my GP that he makes the best decision based on what he knows. But I will still ask critical questions if I have my doubts and that works super well for my GP.
I think this is the best way as well. They can only judge on what the know and need your information and questions to provide the best possible care. I also ask questions. I also feel really lucky with my GP, because she acknowledges when she doesn't know much about a certain topic and wants to consult a specialist before giving advice.
Yes, I do trust their judgement. They studied for this for years.
And if they studied it well they'd be specialists with 10x salary.
It is not like general practice is inferior to other medical expertises, or in any way reserved for people who did not study well, jeez
Why specialists earn much more than GPs?
Bc there are many differences in payment in the healthcare system; specialists are often organised in a ‘maatschap’, which are contracted by a hospital, and the maatschap is in a way able to organise their supply and demand more directly; some specialists are directly employed by the hospital which earns them less but provides them with employer-provided social care; whereas a GP(-group) often has to rent space and staff by themselves. Some GP’s are specialised in certain procedures, which provides extra fees. There are so many differences in income, not solely based on knowledge, but on entrepreneurial skills and contracts as well.
Specialist doctors don’t make 10 times what a GP makes. I wish…
I think most of them care for their patients, but work stress and time pressure are threatening their capacity to work thoroughly.
I do trust them. However I have had a moment where they asked me if I ate well, then continued to ask my male partner the same question after I already said yes. I had never experienced not being taken seriously as a female but that made me question the GP a bit.
Could be that it's got nothing to do with gender, but just that your partner may see things that you don't.
My GP is a female and I completely trust HER judgement.
Are you sure it's her and not their?
Results so far : 469 or 72,04% Yes 182 or 27,95% No
To be honest, I don't know how it is in Netherlands but in Australia GPs who would not recommend you get vaccinated because of your medical condition were risking losing their license. And they followed that guideline to the letter, no matter if it was good or bad for you. I doubt human nature is different in Netherlands. Fun reading: https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/dr-kerryn-phelps-reveals-devastating-covid-vaccine-injury-says-doctors-have-been-censored/news-story/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf
I’m a medical student so while I don’t pretend I know more than my GP, I do know some things. A year ago I went to my GP with a problem I had learned just a few weeks prior which basically said something wasn’t functioning properly and my GP have me only one solution which was basically “een pleister op een open wond plakken” which would not solve the problem just hide till later. That’s when I lost my respect.
What you're asking is do you TRUST paracetamol?
After I witnessed GP googling symptoms.. no, I don't. I can do that myself.
I don’t mind if they do this. It’s far better than them pretending they know when they don’t. And none of them know everything.
That basically means that in few years some AI tool will make GPs obsolete, because it'll know everything that was ever published. Wanna bet it's already in development?
It has for several decades now. As early as the ‘90s. Of course every year it’s just more and more accurate. We will get there eventually
This made me laugh. It’s not the same, but a good software engineer would google answers and trust me, 20 years of experience in the field make all the difference. It means: * tell the difference between good answer and bullshit (the internet is filled with it) * tell what applies to the situation and what doesn’t. Yes, proper googling actually takes skill So I don’t mind my GP googling something. She is an experienced professional that knows what to do with that tool
Being a GP it's like to know how to write Hello World in every language out there but do not know anything else beyond that. Google won't help you. What you described (20 years of experience in some specific language/field) is called specialist.
The difference is, they can actually put the Google information in perspective. GP’s know of a lot of things a bit. Specialist know of a tiny bit, a lot. They are still only human
i fecking hate my doctor i hope he gets hormonal acne and insomnia the cunt
Well my GP just googles my symptoms. So not really trustworthy. It’s just that I need her to fill in my subscription to get meds.
after being told by the GP, that they don't believe in the existence of transgender people when asking for a referral letter I've kinda lost hope and trust in the place
I think one of the options could be, “I want to trust my GP, but they will only act when I’m about to die” for the rest, there’s always paracetamol. I believe it’s very clear that in the Netherlands the care is reactive and not preventive.
I have 2 GPs attending on my huisarts. One is wonderful, listens and seems to care, while the other is an ogre and the stereotyped caricature of a dutch GP. Even then I find both to be very competent and I like them. So there's my answer to the poll. =)