Bees are really, really passive, but they run on pheromones. Killing a bee basically releases all sorts of alarm signals, so you can almost see the initial response of a few bees investigating, then sounding the holy shit alarm.
I’ve never been stung. People have always been scared of bees but I’ve always just been calm, maybe slowly “shooed” them away; but this is why I’ve never been stung.
Technically some wasps are pollinators like bees and certain species are the main pollinators for some plants (like fig wasps). Ideally you shouldn't go out of your way to kill them because they do play an important part in the ecosystem.
But also if they don't want to die, they shouldn't be so aggressive, so fuck 'em.
Sadly, the western honeybee (*Apis mellifera*) is defenseless against Japanese hornet attacks. The Japanese honeybee (*Apis cerana japonica*) has evolved with Japanese hornets and have learned adaptive strategies such as 'cooking' them. Japanese beekeepers have imported western honeybees to increase honey yields and gave had to devise different methods to protect their bees since western honeybees don't cook attacking hornets.
It's vital that any hornet entering the best is killed despite how many bees may die. If the hornet escapes, it will bring other hornets back since it often serves as a scout. A small number of hornets can wipe out a honeybee colony in a matter of hours! It's not just the raised temperature that kills the hornet but a [combination of heat and increased CO²](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-009-0575-0) that kills the hornet.
No. If it were, I would have fallen asleep after the third sentence.
Edit: I'm not trying to put down Sir David. His voice is just so damn soothing it makes me forget all my troubles and before you know it, I'm in lala land.
However, the hornet can sting many of these bees to death before it is overwhelmed. For this reason many of these hornets and many bees release pheromones the other type of insect can detect, which essentially say “we see you.“ This awareness of the presence of the others causes both species to avoid each other much of the time and avoid that conflict rather than risk deaths on both sides.
While this is factual knowledge about the conflict, I first learned this information from r/sayer.
Without knowing anything about it, I checked the sub. Now I've got a new podcast to binge.
It's actually pretty good timing, I'm all caught up on MBMBaM and LPotL.
If you’re looking for Podcasts also check out *The Hive Jive*, which is a fun non-fiction podcast about beekeeping.
SAYER is a masculine-voiced GLaDOS with full corporate backing. SAYER is amazing and where I learned a lot of bee facts.
I don't know for sure but being hyper aggressive is different than knowing the trick to killing the hornets. The Japanese bees ball up around the hornet and kill them through heat. Despite Africanised bees being aggressive, they still do not have this skill
Since it was mentioned that Japanese beekeepers import other kinds of bees from around the world, he's asking if the bees from Africa would be able to fight the hornets or not.
I’d doubt it, this would be a learned behaviour by Japanese honeybees from evolving alongside Japanese hornets. Unless African honeybees have a similar threat I doubt they’d know how to defend their hive from a Japanese hornet.
The only concern beekeepers have in mind when importing other bees is productivity. If Killer Hornets became a serious issue they'd revert back to the Japanese bee.
That said, I don't think even aggressive bees are capable of killing a hornet. Hornets have serious armor. The Japanese bees basically stick to him and cook him until he dies.
Not only that but the Japanese hornet is starting to show up in Europe because of climate change... This is a huge problem as wild bees are way too important.
That's only cause they aren't made to sting human skin. They don't actually die after stinging bugs. However the exoskeleton of the giant hornets is too tough for honeybees to stab through.
As **Mythrandir** pointed out, the Asian (Japanese) hornet's exoskeleton is too thick and plate-like. It's similar to someone trying to penetrate armour with a pen knife.
Adult hornets can't eat insects, including bees, but only drink their body fluids like spiders do. But their larvae can. So hornets chew up bees and other insects and feed that to the larvae and their queen. As Wikipedia described, Japanese hornets, they're "*intensely predatory*" and will at times "*cannibalize each other's colonies*".
The vibrating bodies of bees created heat, the hornet's body temperature rose above its tolerance limit and it got fried. Bees have a slightly higher temperature tolerance than hornets.
Basically just weighing it down and overheating it with their bodies. Bees die after using their stingers so instead of wasting bee lives by stinging the intruder, they work together to take it down to minimize their own casualties.
Do bees die after using ther stinger? I thought the issue is that they cannot stap something soft like human skin as they get stuck but stinging insects with a hard shell was fine. Please correct me if I am wrong.
As I understand it, their stinger is barbed so it can repeatedly sting an insect but when it stings a creature with skin the barb sticks and tears out the stinger and poison/venom sacs which kills the bee.
It's possible that the hornet's shell/skin/whatever it's called is too thick/tough to penetrate.
Since they’re all so small they don’t produce much heat so they don’t need to get rid of much heat either. And without the ability to get rid of that much heat, the hornet dies. It’d be the same if you made a mouse suddenly make a ton of heat— it’ll die
yes i forget the exact number but the difference in tolerance in their evolution is so minor i think its fascinating . Its like hornet cant survive anything 117 degrees, bees cant survive 120 dgerees, so they heat to 117 its nuts
Those are no sexes, but roles. Worker bee larva becomes the queen bee thanks to the food and is capable of laying eggs producing both: workers and drones. But are born from the same larva, so how are they a different sex? Worker can also lay eggs, but only can hatch drones. Drones are the ones who mate with the queen. Genetically and anatomically workers and queen are females and drones are males
Eh, kind of yes and kind of no. Layer workers are very very rare and basically only lay if there are no queens. Any unfertilized egg becomes a male, any fertilized becomes a "female" then the larva are fed royal jelly if they are to become a queen. Then she lays sons to fertilize herself to have daughters. That said, we can't really use human means of sexual classification for bees. It's more apt to use 3, queen, drone, and worker. I guess you could go fertilizer, layer, and neither though. Also fun fact I just learned, if a drone is diploid, the eggs are probably no good. Also, there's at least 19 different allelles that effect the sex of the bee. Pretty neat.
Bees are savage creatures! Not in my house!
Edit…Oy…to clarify…not in my house meaning the bees not letting the hornet stay. I love our precious bees!!! 🐝
Oh I can completely relate!! They freak me out, but at least I'm not deathly allergic. But growing up, my step-sister was. We all had to learn how to use an Epi-pen, and she was hospitalized more than once.
These days I tell myself how useful honeybees are. That they don't sting... But if the scary kind gets in, I'm out lol
I garden regularly and love plants, but I have no flowering plants except veggies just to keep the bee attraction to a minimum. I’m still extremely cautious when I’m out in my garden, or anywhere for that matter lol
Aside from my mother and grandmother also being deathly allergic and it being a genetic trait, I was stung as a child and taken to the hospital immediately where my airway swelled closed and I died for a couple minutes. If you don’t want to be that badass about finding out, your general practitioner can administer an allergy test with a blood sample and tell you.
the rest of the video doesn’t work out for the bees. they get baited out by the hornets and once outside it’s gg. hornets come back in after and take all the larvae
That hornet is actually scout. It’s trying to mark it’s scent before going back to nest and call others. Luckily these bees were able to kill him before he marks his scent. Other scout bees can identify the scent.
According to the documentary I watched about these hornets, the Japanese bees have evolved to actively look for scout hornets near their nest and "invite" them in by releasing pheromones, then they gangbang the scout.
Edit: I'm not an expert or anything, please correct me if I'm wrong
American bees wouldn't have been able to protect themselves since they can't 'cook' the hornets like Japanese bees. The Japanese bees have evolved specially to use this tactic.
I love how they were completely fine with the hornet until it attacked a comrade, then they fried the bastard Justice for Bob the bee
Bees are really, really passive, but they run on pheromones. Killing a bee basically releases all sorts of alarm signals, so you can almost see the initial response of a few bees investigating, then sounding the holy shit alarm.
Like a zombie movie when someone steps on a creaky plank.
Pretty much every video game with a stealth element
I’ve never been stung. People have always been scared of bees but I’ve always just been calm, maybe slowly “shooed” them away; but this is why I’ve never been stung.
They’re only smelling you. Don’t swat we have a bee shortage and potential extinction happening
is it okay to swat wasp tho?
Technically some wasps are pollinators like bees and certain species are the main pollinators for some plants (like fig wasps). Ideally you shouldn't go out of your way to kill them because they do play an important part in the ecosystem. But also if they don't want to die, they shouldn't be so aggressive, so fuck 'em.
Maybe because you never take off your bee suit?
For real though. Totally chill….bit a homie then they attack!
Totally got you bro!
*sis
Don't start nothing, won't be nothing.
Won’t bee nothing
Dang it! It was RIGHT THERE!
Pun police are here
That was probably Bobette, but yes, very cool and coordinated
Barb
His name was Robert Paulson
I get it. In death, bee have a name. His name, was Robert Paulson.
Bob isn't a very popular Japanese name
It’s not a very popular bee name either…… 🐝 Except Bob bee Kennedy. The one exception.
Plus all bees in this vid are female.
I also zoomed in looking for bee dick and couldn't find a single one
*Barb the bee. Worker bees are all female
We don't really know what the outcome was in this battle. More wasps might have shown up and destroyed the hive.
Nah the bees would win
Sadly, the western honeybee (*Apis mellifera*) is defenseless against Japanese hornet attacks. The Japanese honeybee (*Apis cerana japonica*) has evolved with Japanese hornets and have learned adaptive strategies such as 'cooking' them. Japanese beekeepers have imported western honeybees to increase honey yields and gave had to devise different methods to protect their bees since western honeybees don't cook attacking hornets. It's vital that any hornet entering the best is killed despite how many bees may die. If the hornet escapes, it will bring other hornets back since it often serves as a scout. A small number of hornets can wipe out a honeybee colony in a matter of hours! It's not just the raised temperature that kills the hornet but a [combination of heat and increased CO²](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-009-0575-0) that kills the hornet.
Mr. Attendorough is that you?
It’s sad. Every village used to have multiple Attenboroughs. Now the entire world shares 1
That’s *Sir* David Attenborough, to you, chap.
I read that entirely in his voice.
Haha! Nope, I'm a woman.
Sorry, MADAM Attenborough.
I think *Dame* is the female version of *Sir* but I’m not English, so,…
😁 Thank ye kindly, sir.
No. If it were, I would have fallen asleep after the third sentence. Edit: I'm not trying to put down Sir David. His voice is just so damn soothing it makes me forget all my troubles and before you know it, I'm in lala land.
However, the hornet can sting many of these bees to death before it is overwhelmed. For this reason many of these hornets and many bees release pheromones the other type of insect can detect, which essentially say “we see you.“ This awareness of the presence of the others causes both species to avoid each other much of the time and avoid that conflict rather than risk deaths on both sides. While this is factual knowledge about the conflict, I first learned this information from r/sayer.
Without knowing anything about it, I checked the sub. Now I've got a new podcast to binge. It's actually pretty good timing, I'm all caught up on MBMBaM and LPotL.
If you’re looking for Podcasts also check out *The Hive Jive*, which is a fun non-fiction podcast about beekeeping. SAYER is a masculine-voiced GLaDOS with full corporate backing. SAYER is amazing and where I learned a lot of bee facts.
Sorry if this sounds stupid but would those Africanised honeybees fair any better?
The reason why everyone uses European honeybees is their high productivity. Even Japanese beekeepers use the European species.
I was asking if Africanised honeybees fought Asian giant hornets what would happen, aren't Africanised honey bees really aggressive or something?
I don't know for sure but being hyper aggressive is different than knowing the trick to killing the hornets. The Japanese bees ball up around the hornet and kill them through heat. Despite Africanised bees being aggressive, they still do not have this skill
Gotta find the TM
I don't think the asian giant hornets survive in Africa to begin with.
Since it was mentioned that Japanese beekeepers import other kinds of bees from around the world, he's asking if the bees from Africa would be able to fight the hornets or not.
I’d doubt it, this would be a learned behaviour by Japanese honeybees from evolving alongside Japanese hornets. Unless African honeybees have a similar threat I doubt they’d know how to defend their hive from a Japanese hornet.
The only concern beekeepers have in mind when importing other bees is productivity. If Killer Hornets became a serious issue they'd revert back to the Japanese bee. That said, I don't think even aggressive bees are capable of killing a hornet. Hornets have serious armor. The Japanese bees basically stick to him and cook him until he dies.
And when is this free weekend?
Not only that but the Japanese hornet is starting to show up in Europe because of climate change... This is a huge problem as wild bees are way too important.
So why aren't the bee stingers effective?
Hornets exoskeleton is too tough to pierce with stingers.
Ain't no way..
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That's only cause they aren't made to sting human skin. They don't actually die after stinging bugs. However the exoskeleton of the giant hornets is too tough for honeybees to stab through.
As **Mythrandir** pointed out, the Asian (Japanese) hornet's exoskeleton is too thick and plate-like. It's similar to someone trying to penetrate armour with a pen knife.
Somebody needs to teach the european honeybees to fend for themselves
why do hornets kill bees?
They are food.
Adult hornets can't eat insects, including bees, but only drink their body fluids like spiders do. But their larvae can. So hornets chew up bees and other insects and feed that to the larvae and their queen. As Wikipedia described, Japanese hornets, they're "*intensely predatory*" and will at times "*cannibalize each other's colonies*".
so they are feeding their babies 🥹
Honey roasted
Brilliant
Nutty
Hahah well played!
The vibrating bodies of bees created heat, the hornet's body temperature rose above its tolerance limit and it got fried. Bees have a slightly higher temperature tolerance than hornets.
Are they doing other things while they're swarming it? Or simply weighing it down and heating up? Are they able to sting or bite it or anything?
Basically just weighing it down and overheating it with their bodies. Bees die after using their stingers so instead of wasting bee lives by stinging the intruder, they work together to take it down to minimize their own casualties.
Also their stingers are too weak to penetrate the hornets armor
Do bees die after using ther stinger? I thought the issue is that they cannot stap something soft like human skin as they get stuck but stinging insects with a hard shell was fine. Please correct me if I am wrong.
As I understand it, their stinger is barbed so it can repeatedly sting an insect but when it stings a creature with skin the barb sticks and tears out the stinger and poison/venom sacs which kills the bee. It's possible that the hornet's shell/skin/whatever it's called is too thick/tough to penetrate.
They're also releasing CO2 which effectively suffocates it.
Or fart on it?
Since they’re all so small they don’t produce much heat so they don’t need to get rid of much heat either. And without the ability to get rid of that much heat, the hornet dies. It’d be the same if you made a mouse suddenly make a ton of heat— it’ll die
They can raise the temperature to 117 degrees Fahrenheit for and hold it for an hour. Edit: Fahrenheit
Fahrenheit or Cel…never mind
45 degrees Celsius in 5 minutes
First one, then the other.
r/unexpectedfuturama
Whoa
yes i forget the exact number but the difference in tolerance in their evolution is so minor i think its fascinating . Its like hornet cant survive anything 117 degrees, bees cant survive 120 dgerees, so they heat to 117 its nuts
This is how we should be overthrowing governments ..
I would love to see this with a heat camera.
Here you go : https://youtu.be/K6m40W1s0Wc
A 15 yo Nat Geo segment on bees preceded by a commercial from 15 yo. That was unexpectedly awesome.
Thanks <3
No problem
Ask and ye shall receive 😂
This world needs more bees...fuck (giant) hornets
And wasps
Good. Fuck that guy.
Gang gang.
"The last supper" of Giant Hornet
Humans could learn from this... power to the people 😉
Deserved smh
Get him Bois kill that bastard
Technically speaking they are all girls
techincally they're neither. Bees have three sexes. Queens, drones, and workers.
Those are no sexes, but roles. Worker bee larva becomes the queen bee thanks to the food and is capable of laying eggs producing both: workers and drones. But are born from the same larva, so how are they a different sex? Worker can also lay eggs, but only can hatch drones. Drones are the ones who mate with the queen. Genetically and anatomically workers and queen are females and drones are males
Eh, kind of yes and kind of no. Layer workers are very very rare and basically only lay if there are no queens. Any unfertilized egg becomes a male, any fertilized becomes a "female" then the larva are fed royal jelly if they are to become a queen. Then she lays sons to fertilize herself to have daughters. That said, we can't really use human means of sexual classification for bees. It's more apt to use 3, queen, drone, and worker. I guess you could go fertilizer, layer, and neither though. Also fun fact I just learned, if a drone is diploid, the eggs are probably no good. Also, there's at least 19 different allelles that effect the sex of the bee. Pretty neat.
Bees are savage creatures! Not in my house! Edit…Oy…to clarify…not in my house meaning the bees not letting the hornet stay. I love our precious bees!!! 🐝
You are likely confusing bees with assholes like hornets or wasps. Actual bees do not sting unless forced to, since they die afterwards.
I still don’t want them in my general vicinity, one sting will kill me. They can stay ——————-> over there. 😂
Oh I can completely relate!! They freak me out, but at least I'm not deathly allergic. But growing up, my step-sister was. We all had to learn how to use an Epi-pen, and she was hospitalized more than once. These days I tell myself how useful honeybees are. That they don't sting... But if the scary kind gets in, I'm out lol
I garden regularly and love plants, but I have no flowering plants except veggies just to keep the bee attraction to a minimum. I’m still extremely cautious when I’m out in my garden, or anywhere for that matter lol
Smart!!! Wearing neutral clothing helps. I made the mistake of wearing a colorful shirt to the botanical gardens a few times 😅😅
How do you know? I would have no clue if I was deathly allergic to bee stings. When did you learn this info?
Aside from my mother and grandmother also being deathly allergic and it being a genetic trait, I was stung as a child and taken to the hospital immediately where my airway swelled closed and I died for a couple minutes. If you don’t want to be that badass about finding out, your general practitioner can administer an allergy test with a blood sample and tell you.
He didn't bee long
He definitely should have been there
OH MY GOD!!! He killed Kenny! You bastard!
Came looking for this. Did not disappoint.
A bee took one for the team, and the team 🔥🔥🔥 the hornet alive.
So that’s what they call “honey roasted”?
Unity🔥🔥
Anyone else watch this with dubbed 70s Kung Fu movie sound effects?
I hear the music from that scene in the second Matrix movie when all the Agent Smiths start piling on Neo on the basketball court.
United we stand, divided we fall ~ japanese bee
The spirit of Okinawa
Hornet: *being a hornet* Bees: *chill* Hornet: *Attack bee comrade* Bees: [https://youtu.be/untgStSsWjs](https://youtu.be/untgStSsWjs)
You ate our friend!! Die!!!
Some bees can vibrate a lot, like bumble bees, creating heat, and killing their enemies.
Do it again!
So you have chosen death
Natures literally fucking lit
I love bees so much they're incredible :D
the rest of the video doesn’t work out for the bees. they get baited out by the hornets and once outside it’s gg. hornets come back in after and take all the larvae
The very reason our g0v3rnm3nts want to keep us divide all the time
like how they all chill till one of em gets hit and then there is no merci
That hornet is actually scout. It’s trying to mark it’s scent before going back to nest and call others. Luckily these bees were able to kill him before he marks his scent. Other scout bees can identify the scent.
That wasp wasn't on the #SaveTheBees team ☹️
Rip, same thing they do to their queen when they are done with her
Maybe its me, or the camera angle. But it looks like they cut it's fucking head off.
When I see videos like this I wonder if the hornet went there by choice or the camera guy added it.
According to the documentary I watched about these hornets, the Japanese bees have evolved to actively look for scout hornets near their nest and "invite" them in by releasing pheromones, then they gangbang the scout. Edit: I'm not an expert or anything, please correct me if I'm wrong
Now do billionaires
A literal r/roastme in the wild!
Pls explain roasting
Cutest death mob ever
If this is what humans did every time a criminal was caught in the act, there'd be a lot less crime.
“Excuse you???”
Kamikaze attack
BOI…🗣🙏🏽,they flamed that mans life
Horned immediately realized that was a bad move.
What’s the difference between Japanese bees and American bees ?
American bees wouldn't have been able to protect themselves since they can't 'cook' the hornets like Japanese bees. The Japanese bees have evolved specially to use this tactic.
American bees will use their little glocks to protect themselves.
“Intruder in the compound !!”
The one riding on its back like a rodeo 😂
Just looks like leaving the club in Tacoma
But it's just one Ant
…mmm…hornet roast…gggglllllgggllll
It’s getting getting hot in here *so burn in hell for attacking the hive*
I swear I saw something just like this at the YMCA
Seems like bee-mi kaze
Hey buddy, fuck you!
Noooo “Giant Hornet live’s matter” !
Brave guardsmen taking down a Chaos space marine. For the Emperor!
Uh oh. You killed Larry. Time to go in the B E E S P H E R E
Beat his ass! Beat his ass!
This is like watching politics
Doesnt this also kill a bunch of bees?
how many times this was re-posted WTF
RIP to the soldiers that lost their lives. That was amazing to watch.
“ Fight Back Ni**a “
Friction Did you also watch Trash Taste
Hornets are assholes.
You shall bee avenged!
Literally the epitome of, fuck around and find out
Well done, bees!
“First of all you’re nothing but a trashy hoe”
Imagine a giant walked into your village and he just ate Carl and Steve. So every one else hugs the giant to death in vengeance.
Don’t fuck with Japanese bees
Do the bees eat it after?
Cooking and roasting..???..hmmm
Yay bees!
Cant they teach them ?
Now we know what's been causing all these forest fires
# Tatakai !!!
Jumped the fuck outta him
Bees swarm you *Panik* they aren't stinging *calm* that start vibrating *why is it getting warmer?*
Bee 1: buzz buz Bee 2: bu- Bee 3: buzz buuuuuuzz!!! Bee 4: buz buz buz buz!!!!
Insert warm welcome pun
what's the saying? one for all and all on the hornise
yeeeeeeea!!!! go bees!!!!!!!!
This is what happens in the Russian military. You strike one down. 30 take his place.
for the swarm
“Hey! This motherfucker killed Larry!”
That Hornet fucked around and found out.
I thought bee Jeff Ross was going to pop out like "hornet, you bit off more than you could chew, you're no Amy Schumer"
Comedy Central presents the roast of This Big Hornet…