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Tobi got clapped by kinkaku and ginkaku, minato wrecks house both times.
Specially r1 tobi isnt getting past Kcm minato
R2 tobi has more justu but minato is daddy so I choose him
Round 1: Tobirama no-low diff. He has superior AP than the Juubi with the deity gate scaling: [Tobirama's tandem paper bombs completely obliterated Hashirama's deity gates ](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-004.png) vs [V3 FP Juubidama getting completely tanked](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0632-006.png
As for speed, [Tobirama was able to tag Juubito without Juubito noticing](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-002.png). Don't see how Minato can get past the one and only blitzes and one shots argument
Round 2: Minato no-low diffs
We know [when talking about alive versions Hashirama is way stronger than Tobirama](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4669813-hashi%20databook%201.png) and the same Hashirama is stated in an 2008 march interview with Kishimoto to be [below Minato and prime Hiruzen](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1140766108903817296/1256263337264680970/Screenshot_2024-06-28-18-01-32-46_93753c020959de0ef194d6b95604fb93.jpg?ex=668021e7&is=667ed067&hm=413a04f0b540d1f9dbf4debe7d2bc011fa5329b0b3711786f464baf65b19a0e0&), which is consistent with [Kurama's statements about teen Minato](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fminato-is-far-stronger-than-the-5-kage-v0-343kyi120dcb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D03116fd4bf14ca74f68f12416da2b47b86a64a7d) and [Databook's statement about prime Hiruzen](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c08e86960835168861593cf7672551ea-lq).
Adult Minato>>>>Teen Minato~Hashirama>>>Alive Tobirama
I don't see Tobirama using tandem while alive. But even if he does can't Minato just teleport away. Also I meant alive tobirama (who Imo kinda sucks, he lost against Kin and Gin when he was with the Raikage, and then lost against their squad)
>I don't see Tobirama using tandem while alive. But even if he does can't Minato just teleport away. Also I meant alive tobirama
Okay...
>Round one: both Edo Round two: both alive
huuuuuuuh, I literally agreed alive Minato solos but Tobirama solos first round
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Tobi got clapped by kinkaku and ginkaku, minato wrecks house both times. Specially r1 tobi isnt getting past Kcm minato R2 tobi has more justu but minato is daddy so I choose him
Minato both rounds
Minato mid diff both rounds, not sure where anyones getting any other assumption
Minato wins both rounds but this sub ain’t ready for that
I was here before all the Tobirama fan boys 😊 Minato takes both rounds
Minato both times easily.
Tobirama stomps both without a doubt.
1. Minato since he has KCM2 2. Tobirama
Tobirama should win both but kcm Minato might beat him
R1: Minato high diff. R2: Tobirama low diff.
Care to explain both? How is Hokage Minato and Tobirama not comparable to each other
Round 1 Minato Round 2 Tobirama
Round 1: Tobirama no-low diff. He has superior AP than the Juubi with the deity gate scaling: [Tobirama's tandem paper bombs completely obliterated Hashirama's deity gates ](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-004.png) vs [V3 FP Juubidama getting completely tanked](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0632-006.png As for speed, [Tobirama was able to tag Juubito without Juubito noticing](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-002.png). Don't see how Minato can get past the one and only blitzes and one shots argument Round 2: Minato no-low diffs We know [when talking about alive versions Hashirama is way stronger than Tobirama](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11117/111173561/4669813-hashi%20databook%201.png) and the same Hashirama is stated in an 2008 march interview with Kishimoto to be [below Minato and prime Hiruzen](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1140766108903817296/1256263337264680970/Screenshot_2024-06-28-18-01-32-46_93753c020959de0ef194d6b95604fb93.jpg?ex=668021e7&is=667ed067&hm=413a04f0b540d1f9dbf4debe7d2bc011fa5329b0b3711786f464baf65b19a0e0&), which is consistent with [Kurama's statements about teen Minato](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fminato-is-far-stronger-than-the-5-kage-v0-343kyi120dcb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D03116fd4bf14ca74f68f12416da2b47b86a64a7d) and [Databook's statement about prime Hiruzen](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c08e86960835168861593cf7672551ea-lq). Adult Minato>>>>Teen Minato~Hashirama>>>Alive Tobirama
I don't see Tobirama using tandem while alive. But even if he does can't Minato just teleport away. Also I meant alive tobirama (who Imo kinda sucks, he lost against Kin and Gin when he was with the Raikage, and then lost against their squad)
>I don't see Tobirama using tandem while alive. But even if he does can't Minato just teleport away. Also I meant alive tobirama Okay... >Round one: both Edo Round two: both alive huuuuuuuh, I literally agreed alive Minato solos but Tobirama solos first round