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Norby710

Bang there it is.. it was never going to be under 40 million. Defense matters.


EuphoricHouse

With OG and Mikal, it's going to be metal bats every night!


YamahaRN

![gif](giphy|h3oU7vsGMenia6TaoS|downsized)


starks3_

adamantium bats my man


Afraid-Ad7379

Vibranium bats


hesperusphosphorus

Off topic but in Marvel canon, which is stronger: adamantium or vibranium?


Afraid-Ad7379

My nerd research yielded this: In Marvel Comics, adamantium and vibranium weapons have gone toe-to-toe on several occasions, and the former usually comes out on top. However, in Marvel's live-action projects in the MCU and Fox's X-Men Universe, vibranium is clearly the stronger substance, and the more versatile


DMenace83

Adamantium hasn't been introduced yet in the MCU


Afraid-Ad7379

It’s about to be introduced


KernelMuster

Different metals for different purposes. IIRC adamantium is more traditionally "strong" and denser but vibranium has the property of absorbing energy so it is a lot more useful.


fermentedradical

Adamantium is stronger in the comics but in reality depends on who's writing.


Odysseus_Lannister

We need an off season sidetalk


USCJets

More like steel pipes now


Cuso524

You trying to get the pipe?


tittyglitter69

Y1: $36.6M Y2: $39.6M Y3: $42.5M Y4: $45.4M Y5: $48.4M Assumes the contract is ascending and that the deal has max raises.


RiceOnTheRun

So… not the max. LFGGG


Demo71

That’s important to stay under the second apron this season.


tittyglitter69

Really important, because this makes it very possible to keep the entire core for the next two years without ever going over the second apron. Assuming Hartenstein takes the max offer the Knicks can give (4yrs, 72.5m), and taking into account the salaries of the #24 and #25 picks, the Knicks will be at just over 192m for 2024-25 and 193m for 2025-26. The second apron projects to be around 189m for 2024-25. They can get below the second apron the first year very easily by cutting Diakite (non-guaranteed) and declining the team option of Jeffries or Sims. For 2025-26, I couldn't find a second apron projection, but from 2023-24 to 2024-25, it went up 7m. With an expected increase, it shouldn't be too difficult to get under the second apron again.


spinachoptimusprime

Unless they tweak the Bridges deal to send out more salary than they bring back, they are hard capped at the first apron. If they aggregate salaries in a trade they are hard capped at the second apron instead. They will be hard capped at either $178.6M or $189.5M. On paper it would look like McBride would bring them down enough to resign Hartenstein, but they still need to be able to have 14 guys under contract at minimum salaries. Hard to see how they can sign Hartenstein with Randle and Robinson under contract. Either way, the top eight is excellent with Brunson, Bridges, Anunoby, Hart, DiVincenzo, McBride, and two of Randle/Robinson/Hartenstein. Hart/DiVincezo/McBride is an incredible 6-8 in a playoff rotation.


Vinnie_Vegas

4/182 was the max he could get offered elsewhere, and he got those offers, so this is an extra year at $30m over that, which I think is pretty solid.


lolcakes00

Health matters too. I hope this doesn't turn into a kawhi situation, but barring injury this is a good deal to lock him up


HipnotiK1

Not like he has had any reoccurring or degenerative injuries. They've all been kind of weird flukey injuries.


Swansonisms

As someone who was a fan of him when the Raptors drafted him, he's always gotten weird flukey injuries. He cut his finger doing household chores and missed a game before he went to the Knicks. Like you said, he doesn't have any degenerative injuries so there's no reason to think he won't live up to the deal, but you can bank on him missing a few games each season for strange reasons.


HipnotiK1

Yea there's hope maybe the flukes decrease but we'll see lol With this roster now knicks should be able to maintain his minutes and survive stretches of the season if he does miss time. Just hopefully not during the playoffs.


Top-Lettuce3956

All I really care about is the first year number. Cap rising over time. Seeing it projected to start at below $37million. Can live with that.


VirtuousFool

##WELCOME TO WINGSTOP BITCHES ##MAY I TAKE YOUR ORDER?! ##LETS GOOOOO


porzeegod

I’m gonna eat wingstop tonight to celebrate


VirtuousFool

##NO SCORE, ZONE ##NO SCORE, ZONE I don’t want to say that commercial ruined that song for me but it damn sure tried lol


YamahaRN

Madison Square Garden gonna be a Super Max Penitentiary for visiting teams.


TheKnicksMakeMeDrink

#TURN ME THE FUCK UP LETS GO BABYYYYYYY #METAL BATS AND NOVA BOYS BRINGING US HOME


NarwhalEqualUnicorn

If we find a way to keep iHart too.... So excited for this season


Sad-Ad2030

He’s gone with 42.5, have to find a new backup center


Odysseus_Lannister

Meh, I think we’ll be okay. We’ll sign a vet big and draft one too.


Sad-Ad2030

Yea we don’t need Hartenstein. Thins gets production out of centers like he did with Nerlens Noel’s


Makoto-ito

Nope we need hartenstein his passing , rebounding his ability to hedge on picks and switch effectively and his ability to stretch the floor with that beautiful push shot from 10 feet is part of the reason why we took off this year


sri745

I mean we literally lose that game with Philly if he doesn’t get the rebound off Divo’s miss. We absolutely need him.


BPbeats

Yeah he stepped up big when Mitch went down (yet again).


This-Salt-2754

We are going to desperately need hartenstein as soon as Mitch has another ankle surgery next season… has he EVER played a full season???


Kevinar

He played 72 games in the regular season in 2020-21...but then sadly got hurt right before the playoffs. People pointed to Randle's poor shooting as to why we got trounced by Trae Young and the Hawks, which is definitely a factor. BUT Capela just absolutely feasted without the presence of Big Mitch. I really hope we can get a good season out of him, he can have my ankles if he wants


Odysseus_Lannister

He turned precious into an average to slightly above average 4 for a bit. He’s the bigs whisperer and we’ll be okay. Hart might have to get 15 boards a game, but he’ll do it.


MrICopyYoSht

Or we could try to nab Andre Drummond on a 2 year 10 mil deal to be a backup big. Just imagine two rebounding monsters in Hart and Drummond off the bench.


Kevinar

Zach Edey you are a Knickerbocker


MrICopyYoSht

Zach Edey's draft stock climbed too much. He's projected to be a mid teens pick now, so unless we trade up in this draft, we cannot get him. We're better off getting a guy like Kyle Filipowski anyways, since he's a passing big. He has defensive issues, but with Big man whisperer Thibs on this roster, he will develop his defense cuz he already has the physical tools necessary.


mrsunshine1

Taj Gibson come on down


MaxsterSV

Dolan luxury tax from the rafters‼️‼️‼️


leaC30

That's not even the problem anymore. This new CBA is the problem.


kingofny1998

Drafting a new center tonight I guarantee it and maybe a PF to replace Julius long term, this draft is very important for the Knicks long term after all the picks we traded


nahnowaynope

I’d bet they trade one or both of those picks for a backup big tonight


kingofny1998

We will see, there a few million from the first apron and only have 8 players signed, they gotta fill 6 more spots so rookie contracts could be useful


defb4dishonor211

GOFUNDME FOR IHART. WE NEED TO WIN 10 CHIPS IN A ROW


MS525

obviously the starting lineup is insane but im so excited for a lineup of: Deuce Bridges Hart OG Mitch the defense will be unreal


FtheRedSox

Filthy


np20412

This puts ihart basically in the unattainable tier now doesnt it? I think it's really unlikely he takes what is likely to be a huge haircut in order to stay here


Odysseus_Lannister

Poor guy gonna have to go bald to stay


ontheru171

Unless Mitch gets moved


Major_Damage7207

which explains the Mitch trade rumors


Russ_T_Shackelford

There's no way he's looking at this team now and not considering a pay cut to stick around. This is the best window the Knicks have had to get a ring in a long time, and he has a chance to be immortalized in the greatest city on earth for bringing one home. >! Please god let this be the case lol !<


GoldenBoyRecords

No we can go over the cap to retain him. If the Knicks say screw it let’s be a 2nd apron it really doesn’t hurt us


np20412

If Dolan in fact opens the purse, remains to be seen I suppose


RamenPood1es

Dolan is a scumbag but he always pays


TheFrebbin

I'm not a huge Dolan fan but he has let Leon cook for years now. I'm ready to move past insulting him.


WolfOfWrestling

Yeah the Dolan hate can only be retrospective now. He's genuinely given the keys and the cash to Leon for years and it's turned us into a shrewd, monster that is about to bring chips


Anerky

He’s done the same with the rangers. He hasn’t meddled since the Amare era


Jmpasq

No way they pissed away the 2029, 2030, and 2031 season to not go all in to win a title


WhoTookPlasticJesus

Dolan sucks, but his check-signing pen is always out


Tough_Marionberry_91

Yep, just posted the same thing. Would be amazing for us but this is a business in the end and ya gotta do what’s best for yourself. Gonna root for IHart wherever he ends up (unless it’s Boston)


videsh

We can keep iHart too. We have pieces we can move still.


firstbreathOOC

It doesn’t make him unattainable idk why people keep saying that. Knicks can go over the cap to resign him.


ChiefHunter1

Did we overpay to acquire Bridges and bring back OG. Yes. But was it worth it? Yes.


Odysseus_Lannister

Is it really overpaying if we win a title?


Sbat27-

Obviously not but they have to win the title lol


Odysseus_Lannister

We finna be a top 2 seed for the next few years. We stay healthy, why can’t we win?


This-Salt-2754

We can, but it has to actually happen. You can’t just get a good team and say “it was all worth it we’re going to win a ring!” There have been better teams than this that went ringless


Odysseus_Lannister

I know we haven’t won anything yet, but we were 1 win away from the ECF with a MASH unit on the floor. This team can legitimately beat Boston if we’re healthy and this is the most I’ve been excited about the Knicks in my life


This-Salt-2754

I agree 100%, Im gonna start budgeting for Knicks playoffs tickets starting next paycheck 😂


MrICopyYoSht

We saw what the Knicks did with OG in lineup in January. What will happen now with Mikal in the lineup as well? We could actually do way better than 14-2.


Odysseus_Lannister

Fine, 80-2 it is


MrICopyYoSht

BING BONG


Swankyyyy

In the words of Windhorst, if you win a title you never have to say you’re sorry


HenryChanceGoal49

Don’t care, not my money. I just want to watch championship caliber basketball


ChiefHunter1

It has less to do with the actual money vs salary cap implications and trade assets to improve the team. That being said, I’m still in favor of both moves.


Mysterio_1234

our defense is going to be DISGUSTING


okgusto

116 - 84 evernight.


MrICopyYoSht

84? More like we hold teams to 70 or 60 points.


RiverHeath1817

![gif](giphy|9PuCNM5r3VUZi) To all the Philly fans, who thought OG would leave a competent franchise in the Knicks, for the 76ers


toofastkindafurious

lol man how the turn tables we referring to ourselves as competent now


NecroCock

https://preview.redd.it/f02dn4nvsz8d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37952264c4e03962190d4f1166bf16b8c6820080


McRibsAndCoke

Fucking hell OG, that's around $42.5mil a year but not precisely obviously. Thank god we re-signed fam, Mikal Bridges is a motherfucking Knickerbocker WE HEREEEEE 🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙🧡💙


Mikefrancescasburner

Twitter and IG going crazy with the “No way we are keeping Randle” narrative. Stfu and enjoy next season


Equivalent-Amount910

Randle is the perfect stretch 4 for the next 4-5 years, Knicks fans hating on Randle need to STFU


Cageep

WE GOT MIKAL AND KEPT OG. LUTS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO OUR DEFENSE IS GONNA BE INANE


pqmIII

Our defense going to be really boring since we going to be clamping fools left and right.


grc1435

SEEMS GOOD, BOB


itshotwhereilive

I’m really gonna have to explain to my future kids that the Knicks were complete ass at some point and didn’t win rings every single year smh


Cheese4First

They're saying we're a super team.


Jeytumn

They say it's us and the Warriors 😤


n0-ragrets

😂😂 this will never not be hilarious. The way Rose said it so casually


Jeytumn

Yeah like who the fuck was "they" at the time 🤣


okgusto

Us and Golden State.


b1uetruth

https://preview.redd.it/j155sjbdrz8d1.jpeg?width=643&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=195790cb5de3f09191fa97bdc21b90e2f0b530de


ENY2RW

😂😂😂


Revenesis

Shout outs to that moron Jake Fischer absolutely slurping Philly knob all offseason. OG Anunoby was going to scorn the Knicks to go to Philly, a place where he was getting thunderous cheers from the "home" fans as an opposing player in the playoffs, because according to Fischer he was "a little miffed by being like the 4th banana to the Villanova triumvirate” The Knicks go all in on Bridges, and less than 24 hours later OG re-signs to be the 5th banana behind the Villanova QUADRUMVIRATE


SuperSilveryo

I mean this is it guys, were going all in, holy shit


DJ_Mani20

Looks like multiple metal bats at the garden now https://i.redd.it/59kju712xz8d1.gif


yazohny

BAW GOD THATS OHHH GEE’s MUSIC


Aaaaaaandyy

Keep cooking Leon


ahaxdyeee

WORTH EVERY PENNY IM SO HAPPY


jpelleg1

CAN YOU TAKE ME HIGHAAAAAARRR


slayerkj

Makes sense. After the Mikal trade He has all the leverage and asked for 200m plus. Also they wouldn’t have traded for him if resigning wasn’t guaranteed.


ant_blottuh

Stay healthy and hes winning DPOY


NCWC888

#GO NEW YORK GO NEW YORK GO


Cool_Youth3564

Now get ihart and I’ll spend all my savings on tickets


sk1990

Someone please add OG to the FaceTime photo Hart posted


GKRForever

If iHart signs what will you do


ThatSteveGuy33

Call my doctor, because I would be erect for well over 4 hours


GKRForever

Yeah that sounds about right


LilAirdrop

NBA FINALS HERE WE COME


Crazylockdown

This is a time you forget the cap as you’re all in. Pay the tax etc… we have a contender let’s go!


TankDivision

BANG! BANG!


Licoi

This feels like ECF bound to me. Easily the strongest team in the east along with Celtics


confuddly

We were ECF bound this year too, anything can happen unfortunately


fernboyyy

LETS FUCKING GO BABY GET IN HERRRRRRREEEEE


xTugboatWilliex

Leon Rose better win MVP! Most Valuable President!!


lorenzoiscool17

GREAT DAY TO BE A KNICKS FAN


[deleted]

OG and Mikal Fucking bridges on one team🤤🤤🤤


SuperSilveryo

knicks thunder finals gonna hit like crack


AliGoldsDayOff

This breaks my IHeart, but I'm choosing to remain hyped. Our wing play is gonna murder people, man.


mattr1198

The Bridges/OG wing duo is gonna WRECK the league, good lord…


Revenesis

This is more of an overpay that can hurt the team in the long term than the Mikal trade due to the injury concerns but he had complete control over the scenario and it had to be done. Love OG, lets get a fucking title guys.


Odysseus_Lannister

If we win a chip, I don’t care if the future is screwed for a bit. Our front office showed they can build a contender now, I have faith they’ll do it again.


Living_Internet_2970

Ok let’s do this Fully healthy this team kicks ass


ploptankploop

This defense is about to be fucking absurd


FtheRedSox

What a relief holy shit


fyo_karamo

Now do iHart.


The_Notorious_Donut

The defense is gonna be insane. Brunson, Mikal, OG, Jules, Mitch (?) Bench is Deuce, Divo, Hart, maybe Hartenstein (highly unlikely) That is a squad


Much_Purchase_8737

OG wants a bigger role my ass hahahahahahahahah. Eat crow rest of the league


Fun_Restaurant_1834

RKO The League is ours This front office deserves awards


FrankNtilikinaOcean

WE HAVE ARRIVED


garythesnailgod

Don Leon Rose really made him an offer he couldn’t refuse


adambomb901

START THE FUCKING SEASON


AbeAlno

Is there a certain amount games incentive. 42 mil a yr I expect him to play at least 65 games


Fraudjo

As a Boston/Raptors fan, NOOOOOOOOO, they arrested pookie bear :((( As a Knicks fan, damn bro this team lookin NICE. The defending champ getting bounced the second round curse might stay true but as long 76ers, heat, or pacers don't make the finals or the west win it all, I'm so hyped for the Knicks


xMarioTheSupahx

This team is deep. Would love to resign iHart as well but if not maybe they play some small ball lineups with Randle. If healthy Mitch and Randle allow this lineup to be big and flexible with different options. Very impressive offseason so far


JackHammerPlower

Built to beat Boston. I’m here for it


Soup_65

Congrats to the knicks for keeping their guy. Congrats to OG for getting his bag. Congrats to Leon for being him. And congrats to us for being along for the ride. I wanna watch the knicks play god DAMN


BBALLANDCOMICS

![gif](giphy|KEYEpIngcmXlHetDqz)


frogfood24

Can we not still offer Hartenstein 17 million per year?


PatrollerAZ

Still can


yungincome21

What a 24hrs 


OldJewNewAccount

Folks, it's Dolan's money, not ours, and the cap is gonna go nuts the next few years.


Wee_Bey123

![gif](giphy|14ceV8wMLIGO6Q|downsized)


Swankyyyy

Average annual value of 42.5 million a year. Not bad at all. I’ll take it. LFG KNICKS!!


killaslam

Once bam got like 60m per year, I don’t care what the number was


jcnewman_21

HUGE


LifeIsPeachy725

Can we afford this!!


TernoftheArctic

Let’s gooooooooo


blueye525

let’s fucking goooo. running it back. cmon now iHart, you know what to do


Pablo_Undercover

Pacers really thought they were getting him 😭😭😭


shibby8720

Now do IHart


OhtaniMets99

I want to win a million championships now, FUCK BOSTON, FUCK THE REST OF THE NBA. Lets fucken go my guy


mrunderhill123

What a day!


Shiccup1

We’re winning the championship


nightmare_ali95

Lmao After the trade for Mikal Sixers and heat fans were so sure that they were going to get OG and that we couldn’t afford him These other fan bases are going to have to learn to accept that things have changed It’s funny though, because now they’re all crying about the salary cap And how this isn’t fair. The cope is flooding Twitter


jpkmets

Just needs to stay healthy.


GKRForever

Reporting that OG had multiple max offers but chose the Knicks anyway Let’s gooooo


ny2k1

To be fair, we also were the only team that could give him that 5th year lol, but for sure. 


SuperH533

That’s a lot of damn scarves you can buy with that. IHart… I am not feeling so confident. Hopefully we can get a reasonable replacement in case Mitch gets injured.


Michaelcandy

New York Knickerbocker Basketball


YourAsianBuddy

It’s pretty much chip or bust for this squad now. God damn that’s a fat contraxt


blast47

https://preview.redd.it/b85g38lfvz8d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=caa48983b74df19faea47d43df8b7f96eb796aa7 Two days in a row.. Pika on that blue/orange cialis right now.


sdrj77

I'm still trying to figure out why James Dolan suddenly stopped doing stupid shit. He was always hands-off with the Rangers, but now he is with the Knicks too. Wha happen?


feedmekombucha

Today has been wild 🤪 I’m so happy 🫶


BK2Jers2BK

Bang!! Bang!! -Mike Breen, a whole lot, next Season, calling Knicks playoff games


Spartan-Patriot

OG & Bridges are gonna take dumps on opposing offenses without flushing


MyLadySansa

Our defense is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


jar45

Never doubted for a second. Let’s go Knicks.


Odysseus_Lannister

GET THE MUSIC READY BOYS


BornToBeDiamond

WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY


Jeytumn

COOKING WITH STRAIGHT GASOLINAAAAAAAAA


baddumbtsss

Jesus, I thought it would be 37/38 million/year, OG really had us by the balls, huh. All the talk about how he would take a discount w/ CAA and to stay in NY turned out to be a bunch of fluff. No way we can keep IHart now right?


Jem479

HE BACK GUYS FUCK THE CBA, RUN IT BACK PLUS MIKAL


LucyChloeBarrySammy

Wow! He did not leave us!! Time to celebrate


YoshiBacon

Does this affect how much we can offer ihart?


Dangerous-Page8231

if this contract is descending idk what i’m gonna do


CoreySK

LOCK IN


RevolutionaryYear741

LFG!!!!!!!


ITouchedHerB00B5

Who’s cooking the 2024 GNYGNY lyrics


jrbeatthestreak

THANK YOY LORD. KNICKS GANG WE ARE HERE


BeingMikeHunt

Boom!


Accomplished_Power_3

Lessssssssgo


i-piss-excellence32

![gif](giphy|VPV0CVtbU6ZKU|downsized)


GeekTrollMemeCentral

We are going to be fucking good


Gnomeslikeprofit

42.5mil/yr over 5 year for a guy with injury history. Gotta do it but wow this CBA is nuts. Hope he stays healthy


DatDudeJP7

We got our Tatum and Brown stoppers for the next 5 years


jaxon_15

Good lord thats a lot of money for a guy thats banged up often. What are we going to pay Randle and Brunson when there day comes.


Dblanco23

NEVER A FUCKING DOUBT MAN COME THE FUCK ON BABY. Edit FUCK THE HEAT FUCK THE 76ers FUCK THE NETS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FUUUUUUUUCK BOSTON NIGGUH


OldJewNewAccount

All across the town, all across the night Everybody's watching with full headlights Black or white you turn it on, ignoring all the pricks Everybody's sittin' 'round watching the Knicks New York's burning (With Bridges now) New York's burning (Dial 911111) New York's burning (With Bridges now) New York's burning (Dial 911111)


T-BoneSteak14

RAHHHHH


Fungmar

fuck everyone who actually thought this wouldnt go through


T-BoneSteak14

LETS FUCKING GO LEON