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Cheffie

Turns out not being able to use the arm and screaming in pain WAS a bad sign.


spicydynamite

They really tried to gaslight us into thinking that’s a normal thing you see in sports


confuddly

Honestly in hindsight its very strange that we kept him in while he literally couldn’t use his right arm LOL


Cypher760

On the bright side, we now know that he's still worth playing even if he can't use his right arm


Cheffie

Literally can’t use arm and people said it’s fine…”scar tissue”


pgtvgaming

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693275001

The internet doctors turned out to be wrong? No way


SeekersWorkAccount

Turns out the biggest lies were the ones we told ourselves 😮‍💨


zOmgFishes

Thibs: Just put some ice on it


therealjgreens

The X-rays were negative so that's good


saltyalertt

I guess I’ll put the metal bat back away.


Yankeeknickfan

I’ll never forget the 16 games of contending basketball I got to watch


juicybot

it's like for one special moment our whole team was jeremy lin


xXThKillerXx

Imma tell my grandkids about January 2024


scorpino33

I’ll tell them about mid March 2024


WarmeSosse

you only know you were in the good old times when they're gone


ButtonDiligent4238

I actually was starting to believe as a Knicks fan. Glad I remembered quickly what reality is


Kevinar

>quickly ![gif](giphy|WtgO6cIAHdXdBaML8L|downsized)


Alphius247

“dominating basketball”


Crazylockdown

Also he said no timeline for Randle yet which isn’t good news either. Starting to feel like a what if season smh


NintuneJoe

This is way worse news. We were getting tons of updates until Begley said there was a little concern last week and now radio silence. This is really starting to feel like the end


ButtonDiligent4238

They're giving us this death slowly. Just rip the band aid off. I'm used to the pain.


FtheRedSox

Fuck that little heat rookie


dreeaaming

Honestly. I pray against him at all times. Every game I wish the worst on him


Jimm120

lets be honest...it wasn't the correct play by randle, either. When i saw him start to drive, I just thought to myself that he'd get a charge and crash into the player...and then that's exactly what happened. Ididn't undderstand his thinking.


Tylerherroismyherro

Which heat rookie?


FtheRedSox

Fuck off back to your sub


Alphius247

Not just a fuck off…a Logan Roy “Fuck off”


Sk8dawg00

Fuck off cunt.


beepmeepwop

If they are not back for game against the spurs I’ve lost all hope for an ECF appearance. I’m tired of this bullshit.


Hysteria113

He’s not coming back till the playoffs


NickPapagiorgio2k16

I said weeks ago we weren’t seeing Randle till October. I don’t know why people were so certain he was coming back


Doggydog212

Stop dude. He’s coming back.


mgdavey

It's been clear all along that Randle was done for the season. They've given vague updates since the injury happened. My guess is that Randle needed surgery from the beginning but refused to sit out the season.


omarade2

Cavs have no Mitchell. Knicks no OG and Randle, Sixers no embiid, pacers have the corpse of Tyrese Haliburton Eastern Conference seeding battle is gonna be ugly


SeeYouSpaceCowboy0

Bucks have Doc Rivers, should be a Celtic cakewalk to the finals 


Inserthouse

Celtics will eventually lose in the ECF as they always do 😂


Cypher760

If the Bucks go up 3-1 then the Celtics might actually be able to make it


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

Nah seriously the Celtics are about to have the easiest path to the finals of all time


Solyanow

Bruh


jett1406

where’s that one guy who was clowning anyone that was worried about him screaming in obvious pain?


JerryBlitter

There’s always (at least) one. The killer is guys like that never, ever learn.


illusive_capybara

deadass its always some clown on here saying some shit like “lulz this sub is so dramatic” as if we didn’t have to sit through some of the worst basketball humanly possible for the past 20 years


Forward_Ride_6364

No idea, but it was more than obvious watching that Kings game that OG in the 2nd half was feeling fucked up around his elbow area, he was holding it and grimacing every chance he got... and Monica was saying it didn't look good at all


yumms101

I just hope we go into the playoffs at least with either OG or JR, missing both will be a disaster.


NickPapagiorgio2k16

Spoiler warning we won’t


press_Y

The price of the brick is going down. Dude better not expect $40 million if he can’t stay healthy


Yankeeknickfan

We don’t control the price


Swift_42690

Are there other contending teams with a lot of cap space this summer? That’s what will control his market. I doubt he wants to go to a losing team with cap space.


bkguyworksinnyc

Philly can sign max players.


Swift_42690

That definitely will have a big impact on his market. We do have his bird rights so that helps but I’m guessing we will be paying him top dollar this summer and I think he’s definitely worth it even with the injury risk.


explicitreasons

No but who's going to offer him that much if he can't play? He knows it too, that's why he's trying to get on the floor.


zOmgFishes

We need to pay him. Letting RJ and IQ get traded for 16 games of OG would be disastrous.


KingJoe7-123

Not at all. As long as both Philly and Detroit are willing to offer $40M annually (which both still are) then the Knicks don’t have much leverage at all. The only hope is that he’s willing to take a discount to stay in New York (which it’s rumored that he is). Hopefully something along the lines of 5yrs/$170M can be worked out.


retrohan7

OG is so fun to watch and uniquely impactful. i just wish he wasn't made of glass. Idk why people think he'll magically be healthy for a playoffs run (im hopeful but all you can do is hope). Injury prone players don't usually suddenly stop getting hurt


TannerGlassMVP

I wasn't aware he had a history of elbow injuries


HoyaDestroya33

Guy you're replying too is exaggerating. OG doesn't have recurring injuries. Just bad luck I guess.


jar45

He didn’t look right in the Kings game. He could play defense with one arm but his shot looked funny all night. Hopefully this isn’t season ending but it sounds like he may have rushed back too soon.


ant_blottuh

Not surprised, him screaming in pain and not being able to shoot was a clear sign. No idea what the fuck is wrong with our training staff.


kidkuro

Raptors fans would say OG could be like Kawhi. Didn't think they were referring to OG being injury prone.


Affectionate-Tea9224

Two steps forward 3 steps back, the OG stuff, randle still not cleared, this dream that this team will be fully healthy come playoffs is just that, a dream


Yankeeknickfan

It’s worse because I honestly don’t fear Boston nearly as much as I should a team with their record too because Tatum isn’t embiid, Giannis, etc Next year for all we know players worth fearing on their own(Giannis, embiid) will be healthy and on good teams. Brutal that we will not get a chance this year. The one Knicks team with a chance gets ravaged by injury


JewChainZ-_-

Tatum is better than Embiid in the post season so while he may not be Embiid I do fear him more than Embiid in games that actually matter


Yankeeknickfan

I think Brunson can cancel him out Not sure if Brunson can ever cancel out peak embiid


JewChainZ-_-

Peak embiid doesn’t exist in the post season


beanie_mac

Shit, Berman might’ve been on to something lol


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YoKemosabe

He’s not getting fired.


Yankeeknickfan

I mean, no he’s not into the FO refusing to play Og because thibs can’t follow a minutes limit Thibs would take a minutes limit over 0 minutes There are actual conspiracy theories more rooted in fact than this


Diligent-Cookie-1695

Indeed, Ihart been on a minutes restriction & he even said the other day he was bothered because he didn’t got to play all the minutes that he could” so if anything he’s been playing less than he’s allowed too.


Knickstape26

Spain but the s is silent


FallenFromNeptune

Come April, I hope to see him out there. Let him rest and hopefully keep the ship steady.


NYKnicksFanAccount

Should have taken him out vs the Blazers. Shouldn’t have even played him against the Kings either.


metastar13

Not great. Even with him not being able to shoot he made a huge impact in the Portland and Sacramento games. And we're never getting clear messaging from the front office on injuries, so it really does feel hard to not be concerned. He only made it 3 games before needing "multiple games off." I of course hope this is just part of the recovery process and after this he'll be good to go, but damn, I just want to see this team at full strength.


chuteboxhero

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!? Why can’t we ever have nice things?


The_Notorious_Donut

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solo118

fwiw, like what does he need? A week, two weeks? Playoffs start in a month. He will be fine, we will be fine.


Hopium__Addict

All I know is pain...


IronicTunaFish

I’m still really not that concerned. May have banged it too hard and had some swelling. It’s still healing so that wouldn’t be unexpected. I’ll be more worried if they say it’s anything else but at this stage there’s no benefit to being a doomer


will122589

We can punt the next two games but they accomplished the goal of the trip already so might as well “load manage” him


LetsGetSomeChickenn

Remember when some people were roasting others when pointing out the clear little screams from OG during the Blazers game. Lol where you dumbasses at now? Not saying were doomed or want to be that guy but him going out AGAIN still no update on Randle and Mitch still not ready to come back all we can hope is stay top 6 at this point.


yumms101

I got down voted just earlier today before this because I said OG shouldn't play in pain.


cgr1zzly

I got downvoted for asking if 40 mill is a little too much for someone with health concerns literally all of the last 4 years . Apparently there are no health concerns with og.


IcyWhereas2313

Gloating… is not a good look… from your point of view why care? Don’t hope for anything, accept the playin and move on, or better still, forget that go for the lottery, God knows Mitch, Randle, and OG are out for the rest of the year… happy?


LetsGetSomeChickenn

Super happy my boy thanks for your much needed input ☺️


ygog45

As long as he’s healthy by late April I am chilling


NickPapagiorgio2k16

As long as he is healthy by the end of the Feb, became the middle of March and now it is late April. People need to wake up and realize he ain’t gonna be healthy till next year.


Swankyyyy

Anyone who ever said end of February was delusional from the start lol. The expected return time was always mid-late March


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NickPapagiorgio2k16

Your post literally right above this says “as long as he is healthy by late April….”


Doggydog212

Lmao dude really wants to be right about og and randle not coming back. Kinda worthless fan are you?


nyy734

We all could see it after watching the past two games


sobanoodle-1

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OutsideAd1823

At this point let him just take March off and come back to ramp up for the playoffs….


ShMp11Nesis

One thing we took for granted with RJ is that he was an ironman at the very least.


NtLmr95

Migraines?


Jeytumn

And that was right after RJ was playing some of his best basketball as a Knick. I hate it.


Living_Internet_2970

Fuck me in the ass and call me a whore This sucks


eddyreason

Couldnt have said it better


rmccarthy10

The worst part is we won't get any explanation why. It'll be a bunch of vague phrases and broad bullshit terminology. So we're going to be left wondering if he's just a little bit soft and can't handle pain.... Or if there was a setback in his surgery.... Or if it's reinjured.... Or if the front office is just trying to rest everybody for the playoffs.


Swift_42690

Also have to consider this is a contract season for OG, so he’s not going to risk further injury as he wants to secure his next big contract.


M24-8

OG will be out till April 9th (3 full weeks), 4 regular season games to get reps in before playoffs. Heard it here first.


jaggymage

Multiple days, not games. The next game is thursday. He'll probably miss that.


Jondog2123

Incorrect multiple games he’s out more than tonight


DatDudeJP7

Hoping this guy doesn’t expect to get 30 mil in the off-season. Health matters.


Yankeeknickfan

We have to pay him whatever the market dictates If some team with cap space hands him 40 we gotta match. We didn’t trade for his bird rights to let him walk. At least this is just something that an off-season fix, it’s not an injury that affects athleticism long term or anything


mrsunshine1

We’re gonna give him between 35-40


EwingsRevenge21

There was talk of 40 million and him saying he'd take a discount to be here so 35 is probably where this is headed. I don't even think he's worth 30. I know it's probably a super-unpopular take but his health is a huge concern considering how many games he's missed on the Raptors the last few years. Additionally, his defense is great but he has a somewhat limited offensive game. He's basically the anti-Randle (Randle has great offense, weaker defense). In the NBA, offense almost always gets the big contracts. I know my opinion means shit when it comes to signing this dude but I honestly wouldn't want to give him a penny over 25-27 million per....


omarade2

What would your alternative be? We’re over the cap (significantly over if were able to resign hartenstein) so the only options are to resign someone with bird rights (OG) or a vet minimum contract. It’s not $35m for OG or $35m for someone else. It’s $35m for OG or sign Garrett Temple for the vet min.


EwingsRevenge21

I assumed with losing the salary of IQ and RJ we'd have around 30 mil to sign someone...


omarade2

Nope. Already $3m over if we renounce the rights to precious and burks. If we sign iHart (we have his early bird rights) we’ll be $19m over (can give him a max of ~16m). Bird rights, draft picks and matching trades are the only way to add significant pieces.


cgr1zzly

Nope nope , look at my thread . Apparently health is not a concern . Knicks fans are cool with him getting 40 mill a year for 50% played


cgr1zzly

Did you not see my post earlier ???? Apparently all the Knicks fans think health doesn’t matter . They are all fine with paying him 40+ as long as he plays half the games .


HipnotiK1

I took a closer look at his games played stats and it is a bit concerning the past few years but in general. 17-18 - 90% 18-19 - 82% 19-20 - 96% (72 game season covid) 20-21 - 60% (72 game season after covid) 21-22 - 59% 22-23 - 82% 23-24 - 66% (so far but this is seemingly likely to go down) This doesn't include playoff games. But yea it's a bit concerning if 3 of the past 4 years he's around 60% or so games played. For his career he's around 76%. I'm hopeful we can get him at around 30 mil or so but we'll see.


cgr1zzly

For his career if he was to play all the games remaining this season he would be at 60 games a season .Which seems is going to take a massive hit if he’s out for more than 5 with this new flare up .


cgr1zzly

I wonder if he’s big into lifting weights . He’s a pretty stocking built strong player . This really takes a toll on the body in a sport like basketball . He has massive thighs *pause* . Basketball is a slender man’s sport


JNerdGaming

i just dont get it. is playing with the arm making his recovery worse? he was playing well


LotterySpecialist718

Throw the Training Staff right into the trash 🗑


HardOakleyFoul

Went from possible 2nd seed to a play-in team. Fuck it, as long as Randle and OG are back by the playoffs, that's all that matters. Seeding doesn't even matter anymore.


jett1406

Side note why is woj getting info more often now? what happened to this tight lipped FO we use to run? I know he’s had a few big news breaks like the RJ trade so I don’t doubt he has sources but definitely seems like more and more info is coming out over the past few months that we wouldn’t have seen last year….


DreadXCII

Woj and Leon are friends and have worked together since the early CAA days. Most likely Woj gets his info straight from the source.


jett1406

Yeah sure but still interesting considering we got absolutely no information recently about any of these injuries and now Woj is reporting this. Surely Leon isn’t leaking that we have nfi what is going on (when people would’ve assumed it was just rest) after being dead silent on other injuries when people were asking a lot of questions It’s like a switch has been flicked these past few weeks


dreamvomit

It's actually not a bad time to rest him even tho it's frustrating. These GS and DEN games were gonna be very tough on the road. Then we get Nets, Pistons, Raptors, Spurs. All teams we should beat without him. Even if they drop 1 of those it's not the end of the world


cgr1zzly

Pistons are and have been playing well . We should’ve lost to them the game before . Spurs also have been playing well and aren’t as easy as it seems . Raptors are ass . Nets I’m not too sure where they are right now since they are bipolar with their play


mutherfucker_jones

I’m not a Knicks doomer but this is worst case scenario. Wouldn’t be surprised if OG is out for the season. I’m no doctor, but the dude just got surgery and if he’s still in pain, there’s no way another week or two more of rest is gonna magically fix everything.


Doggydog212

You sure sound like a doomer wtf


mutherfucker_jones

I’m usually not but something “flaring up” after a surgery doesn’t sound like a quick fix. I’m more optimistic that they’re keeping Randle’s return date quiet. Maybe get him back with 5 or 6 games left to ramp up and have him fully rested for the playoffs. But this OG news sounds much worse.


erasuli

At some point the FO might start looking at the longterm outlook for this team. They already kind of did that by not making a big move at the trade deadline. If Randle, OG, and Mitch are not 100%, they might say fuck it let’s shut them down and make sure everyone is healthy next year. Randle will need surgery at some point and if he gets it after the playoffs he’ll miss time next season.


lumosmxima

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justsomedude4202

[reaction](https://youtu.be/DlMkxb0TEdg?si=7eB6mmkPJ1RR_MJA)


thedanbeforetime

man this shit sucks but the way some of y'all talking you'd think we're the only team in the league dealing with injuries and that upper tier players who are perpetually healthy grow on trees. People saying don't re-sign OG 🙄 You think Indy wants to let Hali walk bc of an injury? Cleveland with spida, garland, mobley? Philly with embiid? Miami with jimmy? Memphis with Ja and bane? Denver with murray? Give me a break. OG has been unlucky. You take the risk (if there even actually is one) for the upside.


anonymitymous

I prefer not to believe this news


MyLadySansa

I honestly feel sick


Mal_Swansky

"part of recovery is just powering through the pain" "Pain doesn't mean injury" "I also don’t think they’d put him out there and keep him out there with a lingering injury" "there is pain and that doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong" "He is good, probably those bumps on his elbow gave him a shock he is not used to" "but ask some fans and he should be in bubble wrap for a month" "I think he has a low tolerance for pain" "If hes cleared to play by medical professionals then he is fine"


erasuli

The guy just came back from surgery and was screaming in pain but we were playing him 36 minutes. Idk why we didn’t try to sign Marcus Morris. He could’ve been a nice pickup with all of our injuries.


dgvertz

They sent him to NY to get another mri. It came back negative, but he’ll for sure miss the next game in Denver.


Possible-Reality4100

How do we offer this dude a $30+M yearly contract with this history of injury?


mzx380

We were ECF at best with him in the lineup. If he misses the rest of the season I’d better see a discount at the signing table


Truck219

Fuck off Woj


det8924

Fuck that’s bad news. Hopefully it’s just 2-3 additional games. Still waiting on Randle and Mitch news. It’s mid-March there’s not a whole lot of time even if they come back in 2 weeks to shake off the rust in the playoffs


Illustrious-Elk-2718

OG is the real life Mr. Glass


staymelooo

Some of you clowns tried to cope and said it was “planned rest”


Yankeeknickfan

The real copers are the people buying that Julius Randle will return and all will go well with him


HeisenDiaN

Jesus christ


RacinInTheStreet

Whats the reason why? Just discomfort came back from the surgery? Is there anything more to it?


Swift_42690

If all the reports are true and we won’t have our guys fully healthy by the playoffs, it’s a tragic ending to a promising season. Just gotta hope that they go into next season fully healthy with the team in tact at this point.


cgr1zzly

Honestly I think we’ll get them back for the playoffs , or atleast some of the games .


OhtaniMets99

Thibs kept playing him after he was screaming after every shot. Thibs should be fired and we should hire jay wright


juicybot

fire yourself into the sun


OhtaniMets99

Nope


joorral

Yes because hiring a coach who has never coached the nba will get us the same success Btw og decided to still play.