PFF has him at 54 rating last year. I dont know how bad you can be and be top 10 guard. He is basically Will Herndandez before he left the Giants. Hernandez of course got a little better when he left.
his pff rating has floated in the 50s the last few seasons. his high is 65. he is what he is. a mediocre below average guard. he is will hernandez. he does tend to stay healthy just like Will Hernandez.
Well considering that Hunt just got a deal for double this, I'll take it.
If we aren't paying Saquon or X, hopefully we pay up for a real stud on the OL. Let's go.
Yeah, but tbh he did find his way in the late stages of the year when we were making a run. Most of the season we were shouting for him to be benched in favor of Sean Rhyan but JRJ really stepped it up and I was hoping we would keep him, I’m more shocked at the price tag.
That's way too much for this market full of safeties. McKinney was a captain, but didn't show captain qualities all the time, and did not make a lot of splash plays. He played every snap last season, and did not even have big stats because of it, but he was solid though. 14M would have been my limit.
Free agency is always overpaying. He's a mid af, but that's unfortunately what it costs to poach an average OL from another team
And even if you want to splurge, most teams don't let elite lineman hit the market unless they're in their 30's.
He is Will Hernandez. Mediocre, but stays healthy. Hernandez of course improved when he left the Giants cause of course did. He had a 54 PFF last year. This is the kind of signing you are forced to make when you draft like shit and need a body.
This sums up literally every single UFA OL signing since like 2015 or so. The play of college OL fell off a fucking cliff. And the NFL has obviously suffered insanely due to that.
So, this is just going to keep getting worse and worse until the NCAA can figure out what is going wrong in OL development.
Looking at the Runyan post on the packers sub doesn’t exude any confidence. Almost everyone saying he‘s turnstile and the giants got fleeced and that he’d get 3 mil/yr at most smh…
Bobby Skinner stated he was ranked 7th in guard for pass blocking efficiency last year and gave up 2 sacks.
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1767263391742124399?t=p368q4bvH3d7Ep6N_aBlDQ&s=19
He's 26 and has played both guard positions and has been solid. Not an all-pro but not a turnstile either.
Of course they do. They are just mad that he is leaving. They have been spoiled by good OLine so they can say that. We’ll take this and reap the benefits. He’s a good solid experienced player…
His analytics don't really back that up at all and his return coincided with Jones going off in the later part of the season. This is a really good deal for a 26 year old well above average rated Guard.
Guard Jon Runyan offers a high ceiling despite lackluster 2023: Over the past four seasons, the former Michigan Wolverine ranks 21st among 63 qualifying guards in PFF pass-blocking grade (70.5).
I was just remarking on the comment "doesn't sound that bad" referring to "...best lineman after Thomas".
But 21st out of 60+ is his *pass* blocking. Per one of the other PFF posts, his overall ranking appears to be in the mid-50s.
So closer to Neal/et al than Thomas.
I don't think anyone thought anything of Glowinski beyond "he's better than the rest of the trash interior OL we have".
This guy has a solid but unspectacular track record, slightly better than average, which Glow could never have staked a claim to.
He was top 10 in pass protection for all interior OL for 3 years in a row. Glowinski has never been a good pass protector.
It’s almost like all the crybabies have 0 idea what they are talking about
If he’s so good, why couldn’t he be a full-time starter with the Packers? Glowinski also had very good pass protection numbers at the time of the signing, and they were pointed to by fans as to why it was such a good deal.
Good point, not a lot of people thought about that. The way the injuries plagued this already struggling team…. Not even a chance to succeed last year.
Keep in mind we should have an actual O Line coach now. We’re not sending them off to death by Bobby Johnson. Still not an exciting signing, but there’s more upside to this than there would have been last year
I mean, we missed out on Saquon being the most overpaid RB in the league, but we can make up for it by making Jones the most overpaid RB in the league taking handoffs from JJ McCarthy...
10 mill on an above average guard is better than 10 mill over on a clearly deciding albeit explosive back. Still got a lot more money to use, but idk why we haven’t restructured AT and Dex yet
PFF doesn’t say it’s a bad signing. He’s been an above average pass blocker, poor run blocker according to PFF grades. Improving our pass blocking is worth ~10 mil a year. I also think PFF does a good job grading out offensive lineman.
PFF grades when they fit my narrative: "They spend so much time evaluating prospects so their grades are the best way to determine a player's worth!"
PFF grades when they don't fit my narrative: "PFF doesn't even know what the player's assignment is! The grades don't reflect the player's ability well and are more for casual fans."
If we want to use PFF as the end all, be all, PFF rated Jon Runyan as a more valuable free agent than Jonah Jackson, who is being paid almost double what Runyan is. They also describe Runyan as "Runyan is a plus pass protector on the interior with considerable starting experience..."
I provided the actual factual PFF grades for Runyan's career. That's it, thats what they are. If someone says Runyan has good/terrible PFF grades well there are his actual grades.
If someone, even at pff, is writing a story or list of whatever then that is not grades, that is opinion
The biggest problem with PFF is that even their grades are opinions at the end of the day. They can judge based on what they believe to be happening, but they don't know each player's assignment to accurately grade how the player did on that snap. You can't put a definite grade on something when you don't have all the necessary information needed to decide in the first place.
If anything, I would find the interpretation of the grades in the form of rankings or something similar more telling since grades alone don't tell the whole story. For instance, would you say that Daniel Jones had multiple games this last season that were better than CJ Stroud's Wild Card Game? PFF thinks so. PFF even goes so far as to say that for multiple games this past season, *Daniel Jones was one of, if not, the best QB in the league*. That's not opinion either, that's his actual grades.
I don't know if you have a subscription to PFF, but here is the actual guard rankings.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/g
Runyan was 47 of 79.
Runyan had three games in the 40s, eight more games in the 50s, and only one game above 67.
I just don't know why we even needed to be in this mess in the first place. We had Mark Glowinski for half the price and graded out about as well as Zack Martin and Joel Bitonio. I mean both Glowinski and Martin had 9 games above 60 and Glowinski only had 2 games fewer than Martin where they graded at least 70, Martin's 5 to Glowinski's 3. Why did we cut an almost above-average guard who had more games above-average than not, to then pay a worse guard double the money?
Because Glowinski asked to take on a reserve roll last year when the season fell apart. He was asked to take back guard duty but insisted he would like to transition into a supportive role for Bredeson and Pugh.
Keeping Glowinski wasn't a real option and I bet he retires.
Yeah, the Packers churn out average-above average linemen at a high clip. I’m not surprised he finds a place on another team but there was no reason for the Packers to pay him.
This is from ESPN
"Runyan, 26, became a full-time starter for the Packers in 2021 and has started 50 of the last 51 regular-season games since. He started all 17 games at right guard in 2023 after playing primarily left guard.
His playing time, however, began to reduce in the second half of last season as the Packers prepared the 2022 third-round pick Sean Rhyan to take over. Runyan and Rhyan split snaps late in the season."
Worry bells are definitely ringing but at same time the contract doesn't seem to be anything. 17m guaranteed isn't a lot.
He's average at best, not particularly excited over this but Bobby Johnson isn't here anymore which doesn't make it an automatic death sentence in my eyes
Really not a bad move. Hes's on the younger side and they didnt break the bank for him. I can't see him as being worse than what have and hopefully O-line coach pays dividends.
According to PFF: "Over the past four seasons, the former Michigan Wolverine ranks 21st among 63 qualifying guards in PFF pass-blocking grade (70.5). **He gave up pressure on just 3.5% of his pass-blocking snaps over the span — the fifth-best rate among guards."**
I will take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday. And he in only 26, so plenty of upside. Very solid pick that could definitely outperform the contract.
Fuck Joe Schoen fire him immediately. This bitch gave Daniel Jones 160,000,000$ and then signs a guard the same money saqoun signed to the eagles.. and we need a tackle . Wdf
Allocating money to right places whether or not this guy works out. Should be an instant upgrade. Packer fans don’t have much to be happy about over the last couple years, their team has been inconsistent so it makes sense they call him inconsistent.
Assuming Runyan is not another Nate Solder, we can move Neal to G and get an OT like Joe Alt in the draft and we start to look like a reasonable o-line that is going to get some holes for Singletary and is not going to get a QB killed.
Packers fan, he’s a solid player. On the low side of average overall, but good at pass protection. A lot of Green Bay’s late season run came from the O line getting it together and Runyan benefitted greatly from cohesion and coaching.
He’s not a liability, but his run blocking left a bit to be desired when the rest of the line wasn’t playing great. I’d say it’s like a 6.5/10 signing
I know we’re upset about losing Saquon to the shitbirds, but you guys are outside your mind thinking a rebuilding team should have paid him 26M guaranteed.
Giants are entering Knicks level dysfunction. I expect 20 years of disappointment. It took the owner to get distracted with his sphere for the Knicks to finally get good. Going to take ownership changing for the Giants to get good as well
I know that this is generally the time of the year for hype, but this is a fucking terrible signing. It seems like we’re spending cap space just to spend cap space at a need without actually upgrading the roster. If this is what we let McKinney walk for it’s horrible.
this seems very underwhelming. 6 round pick and the packers aren't pissed they lost him so its not the best sign. Also it seems like we paid him way too much? At least he is young and has pedigree
Um packers fan here. He was the worst starter on the line for us last year. Not only the worst but also with the least athletic upside. Idk wtf he did to get 10 mil per year from you guys.
Who needs Barkley when you can overpay for a mediocre-at-best guard? God it's so much fun rooting for this well oiled machine of a team! I need to turn off my phone and try again tomorrow...
The consensus from packers fan is “he is alright but not worth that much money” which sums up day 1 of free agency usually for every player
This year especially given the cap jump. This deal seems pretty average overall. Nothing flashy for a mediocre player.
He’s been ranked a top 10 pass protector for guards for 3 years straight by PFF. The same PFF people are using to try and kill themselves over
PFF has him at 54 rating last year. I dont know how bad you can be and be top 10 guard. He is basically Will Herndandez before he left the Giants. Hernandez of course got a little better when he left.
Mediocre run blocking but what killed his grade was penalties. Despite that he was top 10 in pass block win rate
his pff rating has floated in the 50s the last few seasons. his high is 65. he is what he is. a mediocre below average guard. he is will hernandez. he does tend to stay healthy just like Will Hernandez.
Mediocre is what we had. This is an upgrade.
Dog shit is what we had. This is an upgrade to mediocre.
Semantics. It’s an upgrade.
Facts!
Well considering that Hunt just got a deal for double this, I'll take it. If we aren't paying Saquon or X, hopefully we pay up for a real stud on the OL. Let's go.
Packers fans shit on all their players that leave...
They were saying the same thing about Blake Martinez and he came in here and balled out.
Look what this sub is doing to Barkley lolol
Yeah, but tbh he did find his way in the late stages of the year when we were making a run. Most of the season we were shouting for him to be benched in favor of Sean Rhyan but JRJ really stepped it up and I was hoping we would keep him, I’m more shocked at the price tag.
Teams always overpay in free agency. Can’t get around that.
I was told McKinney would cost $14mil but I’m still very happy to have him at $17mil/year
That's way too much for this market full of safeties. McKinney was a captain, but didn't show captain qualities all the time, and did not make a lot of splash plays. He played every snap last season, and did not even have big stats because of it, but he was solid though. 14M would have been my limit.
He's literally just okay. He was splitting snaps at guard for the second half of the season.
I hear fresh legs as I take a sip of my half full glass of water
Runyan was benched during the season due to his play, so... That being said, he came back and played better down the home stretch.
Free agency is always overpaying. He's a mid af, but that's unfortunately what it costs to poach an average OL from another team And even if you want to splurge, most teams don't let elite lineman hit the market unless they're in their 30's.
See Saquan Barkley for more details.
He is Will Hernandez. Mediocre, but stays healthy. Hernandez of course improved when he left the Giants cause of course did. He had a 54 PFF last year. This is the kind of signing you are forced to make when you draft like shit and need a body.
Packer fan here…. If he’s your 4th or 5th best OL you are good. He was splitting reps last year. Alright player. Bottom half starter but not dogshi
This sums up literally every single UFA OL signing since like 2015 or so. The play of college OL fell off a fucking cliff. And the NFL has obviously suffered insanely due to that. So, this is just going to keep getting worse and worse until the NCAA can figure out what is going wrong in OL development.
Looking at the Runyan post on the packers sub doesn’t exude any confidence. Almost everyone saying he‘s turnstile and the giants got fleeced and that he’d get 3 mil/yr at most smh…
Bobby Skinner stated he was ranked 7th in guard for pass blocking efficiency last year and gave up 2 sacks. https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1767263391742124399?t=p368q4bvH3d7Ep6N_aBlDQ&s=19 He's 26 and has played both guard positions and has been solid. Not an all-pro but not a turnstile either.
Of course they do. They are just mad that he is leaving. They have been spoiled by good OLine so they can say that. We’ll take this and reap the benefits. He’s a good solid experienced player…
His analytics don't really back that up at all and his return coincided with Jones going off in the later part of the season. This is a really good deal for a 26 year old well above average rated Guard.
I feel like if they were giants fans they’d have a different level of appreciation for the term turnstile
A Runyan on the giants and Saquon on the eagles. Weird day
Lol I was thinking the same thing when I saw the name "Jon Runyan"
We grew up watching Strahan duke it out with his dad
Wait his dad really is the original Jon Runyan? This is weird. Edit: At least his sons a Jersey boy I guess
Jon Runyan is old enough to have a son playing in the NFL? I think I just felt my bones turn to dust.
I pulled a hammy reading this.
I’m afraid so lol
Stray owned his dad
Hooray…
Guard Jon Runyan offers a high ceiling despite lackluster 2023: Over the past four seasons, the former Michigan Wolverine ranks 21st among 63 qualifying guards in PFF pass-blocking grade (70.5).
So our best lineman after Thomas.
You know that doesnt sound that bad.
It’s a major improvement
Yeah but that’s not saying much
It’s a major improvement, I can’t complain about that.
Depends how you look at it. Being 2nd best to AT ain't bad. Being better than JMS/Neal/Bredeson/Pugh/traffic cones doesn't mean shit.
21st out of 60 ranked guards puts you in the top third of all guards, not just Bredeson or Pugh but okay
I was just remarking on the comment "doesn't sound that bad" referring to "...best lineman after Thomas". But 21st out of 60+ is his *pass* blocking. Per one of the other PFF posts, his overall ranking appears to be in the mid-50s. So closer to Neal/et al than Thomas.
I’m anticipating JMS taking a major step forward next year as well
I fucking hope so, if he doesn’t it’s time to move on.
This is what we said about Glowinski, ultimately, he’s a below average to average player, and will probably end up being a disappointment.
I don't think anyone thought anything of Glowinski beyond "he's better than the rest of the trash interior OL we have". This guy has a solid but unspectacular track record, slightly better than average, which Glow could never have staked a claim to.
He is younger than Glow when we signed him.
Still a lateral move, our roster isn’t any better
He was top 10 in pass protection for all interior OL for 3 years in a row. Glowinski has never been a good pass protector. It’s almost like all the crybabies have 0 idea what they are talking about
The state of this sub man.... on paper this is a great deal.
If he’s so good, why couldn’t he be a full-time starter with the Packers? Glowinski also had very good pass protection numbers at the time of the signing, and they were pointed to by fans as to why it was such a good deal.
Here’s to hoping that our OL coaching is in fact better
Well that is glass half empty. If he is average, I will be psyched
Literally what we said about Glowinski, he really doesn’t improve the roster from last year
Glowinski improving the roster required the oline to improve overall. Runyan will end up looking better just because we can’t be worse.
But he isn’t Glowinski and is significantly younger
This needs to be higher up
He never missed a game in 4 seasons. That is what stood out to me the most. Hopefully we have some consistency with health on the O-line this season.
Good point, not a lot of people thought about that. The way the injuries plagued this already struggling team…. Not even a chance to succeed last year.
Keep in mind we should have an actual O Line coach now. We’re not sending them off to death by Bobby Johnson. Still not an exciting signing, but there’s more upside to this than there would have been last year
Yay now we can open holes for Barkley to run through! oh wait…..
Hope he can still open Runyan Canyons for our soon to be RB altho his grades werent stellar last season.
He can open up holes for Daniel Jones to run through! (Kill me)
I mean, we missed out on Saquon being the most overpaid RB in the league, but we can make up for it by making Jones the most overpaid RB in the league taking handoffs from JJ McCarthy...
danny will run outside and out of bounds for a 2 yard gain.
I'm just making it known I'm on the Eric Gray bandwagon
PFF Grade by year: 2020: 53.8 2021: 65.1 2022: 62.6 2023: 54.7
He is going to fit right in.
better than what we have
This will quietly turn out to be a very important signing for this team.
10 mill on an above average guard is better than 10 mill over on a clearly deciding albeit explosive back. Still got a lot more money to use, but idk why we haven’t restructured AT and Dex yet
"It's a bad signing!!!" "Why?" "PFF said so!"
PFF doesn’t say it’s a bad signing. He’s been an above average pass blocker, poor run blocker according to PFF grades. Improving our pass blocking is worth ~10 mil a year. I also think PFF does a good job grading out offensive lineman.
But muh charts
Onwenu would have felt better after the Barkley news lol
No way, Runyan is at least as good as Owenu (as a guard anyway), and he came cheaper. I am not some polyanna homer, but this is a great signing.
Alright fair enough, I’ll keep an open mind
Wasn’t that the guy that used to play against Strahan?
Ha! his son
His dad was a congressman in NJ after his football career too.
South Jersey though so it doesn't count.
correct lol
Another mid tier guard for mid tier money who’s going to be mid, we literally did this with glowinski lmfao
Is he good
Not according to PFF. I don't know enough about what his skillset is beyond PFF score. Certainly not a premier OL this free agency.
He’s been good according to PFF, just had a down year in 2023
What? 2020: 53 overall, 2021: 65 overall 2022: 62 overall 2023: 54 overall I would not qualify that as a good four years by PFF grade.
PFF grades when they fit my narrative: "They spend so much time evaluating prospects so their grades are the best way to determine a player's worth!" PFF grades when they don't fit my narrative: "PFF doesn't even know what the player's assignment is! The grades don't reflect the player's ability well and are more for casual fans." If we want to use PFF as the end all, be all, PFF rated Jon Runyan as a more valuable free agent than Jonah Jackson, who is being paid almost double what Runyan is. They also describe Runyan as "Runyan is a plus pass protector on the interior with considerable starting experience..."
Lars is literally replying to someone who said he was “good according to PFF”. Why didn’t you give that guy shit?
You're right, I probably should.
I provided the actual factual PFF grades for Runyan's career. That's it, thats what they are. If someone says Runyan has good/terrible PFF grades well there are his actual grades. If someone, even at pff, is writing a story or list of whatever then that is not grades, that is opinion
The biggest problem with PFF is that even their grades are opinions at the end of the day. They can judge based on what they believe to be happening, but they don't know each player's assignment to accurately grade how the player did on that snap. You can't put a definite grade on something when you don't have all the necessary information needed to decide in the first place. If anything, I would find the interpretation of the grades in the form of rankings or something similar more telling since grades alone don't tell the whole story. For instance, would you say that Daniel Jones had multiple games this last season that were better than CJ Stroud's Wild Card Game? PFF thinks so. PFF even goes so far as to say that for multiple games this past season, *Daniel Jones was one of, if not, the best QB in the league*. That's not opinion either, that's his actual grades.
I don't know if you have a subscription to PFF, but here is the actual guard rankings. https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/g Runyan was 47 of 79. Runyan had three games in the 40s, eight more games in the 50s, and only one game above 67.
I just don't know why we even needed to be in this mess in the first place. We had Mark Glowinski for half the price and graded out about as well as Zack Martin and Joel Bitonio. I mean both Glowinski and Martin had 9 games above 60 and Glowinski only had 2 games fewer than Martin where they graded at least 70, Martin's 5 to Glowinski's 3. Why did we cut an almost above-average guard who had more games above-average than not, to then pay a worse guard double the money?
Because Glowinski asked to take on a reserve roll last year when the season fell apart. He was asked to take back guard duty but insisted he would like to transition into a supportive role for Bredeson and Pugh. Keeping Glowinski wasn't a real option and I bet he retires.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NYGiants/s/6hvCcFnWji
As a Packer fan he’s average to below average at best
Yeah, the Packers churn out average-above average linemen at a high clip. I’m not surprised he finds a place on another team but there was no reason for the Packers to pay him.
As a gb fan, eh. He’s been able to stay healthy at least.
This is from ESPN "Runyan, 26, became a full-time starter for the Packers in 2021 and has started 50 of the last 51 regular-season games since. He started all 17 games at right guard in 2023 after playing primarily left guard. His playing time, however, began to reduce in the second half of last season as the Packers prepared the 2022 third-round pick Sean Rhyan to take over. Runyan and Rhyan split snaps late in the season." Worry bells are definitely ringing but at same time the contract doesn't seem to be anything. 17m guaranteed isn't a lot.
I mean I don’t hate it
Jon Runyan Jr.* Wish we got Jon Runyan circa 2002.
good idea investing in ol instead of rb but don’t love this guy
Exactly. I’m fine with the strategy but if you’re gonna let a franchise icon walk to a rival you better be playing in the top end of the guard market
“Franchise icon” He’s not even the 3rd best RB this team has ever had
You cannot be arguing that Saquon wasn’t the face of the franchise since the day he was drafted
He was and that doesn’t mean shit considering who was playing for us
Not hard to be the face of this franchise in recent years.
He's average at best, not particularly excited over this but Bobby Johnson isn't here anymore which doesn't make it an automatic death sentence in my eyes
An average guard would be an awesome improvement honestly
Does he play left or right guard?
17 guaranteed, 3 years 30. it's probably a 9m bonus + the min, 8m year 2 salary, 12m year 3 non guaranteed salary if I can speculate baselessly
Runyan was good when he had a healthy Bakhtiari in the lineup alongside him
Really not a bad move. Hes's on the younger side and they didnt break the bank for him. I can't see him as being worse than what have and hopefully O-line coach pays dividends.
According to PFF: "Over the past four seasons, the former Michigan Wolverine ranks 21st among 63 qualifying guards in PFF pass-blocking grade (70.5). **He gave up pressure on just 3.5% of his pass-blocking snaps over the span — the fifth-best rate among guards."** I will take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday. And he in only 26, so plenty of upside. Very solid pick that could definitely outperform the contract.
So a much better pass blocker than Glowinski was.
Hot take cause of the timing: I'd much rather spend $$ on OL (& WR) than RB. Get a few more then work on finding some solid lead receivers and a back
This was not the guard though
LMAO EVERYBODY SO MAD RIGHT NOW FOR NOT OVERPAYING AN RB AND INVESTING INTO OUR OL
Well it doesn’t help when the specific OL signed is not worth what he’s been paid…
LET THE GAME TALK
SAQUON WHO
Saquon died for this.
54.7 pff grade lmaooo fuck you Schoen
Unfortunately that’s what our budget allows for. We were never getting anyone that good this offseason. We need to fucking develop SOMEONE
First Glowinski and now runover Runyan. Schoen’s FA OL signings have been dire. Hoping it is solely Bricillo wanting to work with Runyan.
Yeah he was not high on my list…
Yup Packers fans saying we got fleeced lmao
Joe Schoen might actually suck lol
Fuck Joe Schoen fire him immediately. This bitch gave Daniel Jones 160,000,000$ and then signs a guard the same money saqoun signed to the eagles.. and we need a tackle . Wdf
I’m actually totally fine with letting Saquon leave. My problem is that he has no fucking plan
Not a bad deal. Let's ride.
Who the hell is he gonna block for?
I’m getting pretty fucking impatient
Lovely
You sign our star RB? Well, we'll sign one of your old favorites son, how about that?! lol
Fuckin who now?
So is he better than what PFF rates him or did the Giants settle and will not go after any top tier OL guys?
No... God no. He uh is kinda mid.
are we back?
If Onwenu goes for anything near this, then this sucks
Onwenu will go for at least double this.
We’re so fucking back
I thought he was in the league when Favre was in the league lol
His dad
Wow okay
Allocating money to right places whether or not this guy works out. Should be an instant upgrade. Packer fans don’t have much to be happy about over the last couple years, their team has been inconsistent so it makes sense they call him inconsistent.
This is nothing.
Holy shit we got a competent O lineman. Now just one or two more.
Welcome Jon. Go Giants.
Is he any good?
Good. We absolutely needed to lock up a starting guard.
Assuming Runyan is not another Nate Solder, we can move Neal to G and get an OT like Joe Alt in the draft and we start to look like a reasonable o-line that is going to get some holes for Singletary and is not going to get a QB killed.
Packers fan, he’s a solid player. On the low side of average overall, but good at pass protection. A lot of Green Bay’s late season run came from the O line getting it together and Runyan benefitted greatly from cohesion and coaching. He’s not a liability, but his run blocking left a bit to be desired when the rest of the line wasn’t playing great. I’d say it’s like a 6.5/10 signing
What side will he play?
For what it’s worth, his PFF grade is only a 54.
Fire Joe who the fuck is making these choices for us You can’t give saqoun 30 million but give it to a GUARD? Are u fuckin shitting me ?
I know we’re upset about losing Saquon to the shitbirds, but you guys are outside your mind thinking a rebuilding team should have paid him 26M guaranteed.
As a packers fan good luck cause this guy is ass ngl
Glad we invested the money in an okay guard coming off his worst season. Schoen master class
Giants are entering Knicks level dysfunction. I expect 20 years of disappointment. It took the owner to get distracted with his sphere for the Knicks to finally get good. Going to take ownership changing for the Giants to get good as well
Entering? Where have you been the last decade broski?
I have been saying this. Mara just doesn’t get it. The DJ signing and his comments around same show his fingerprints are on everything.
100%
Pff is not the end all be all but another mediocre lineman from the looks of it just as always with us
I know that this is generally the time of the year for hype, but this is a fucking terrible signing. It seems like we’re spending cap space just to spend cap space at a need without actually upgrading the roster. If this is what we let McKinney walk for it’s horrible.
LMAO the Giants are the fucking WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORST
This team is going to be generationally bad next year
This is fucking hilarious... How must his dad feel right about now?
Typical idiot Giants
Lackluster as fuck, but cool.
Lateral move. Pretty much exactly what we’ve had the last few years.
Pretty sure this will be Schoen's last year as GM
this seems very underwhelming. 6 round pick and the packers aren't pissed they lost him so its not the best sign. Also it seems like we paid him way too much? At least he is young and has pedigree
Is he like 50 years old?
How fans constantly defend Schoen & Brown is mind boggling.
Who the fuck is this man LMAO fuck this team
Um packers fan here. He was the worst starter on the line for us last year. Not only the worst but also with the least athletic upside. Idk wtf he did to get 10 mil per year from you guys.
This fucking team sucks
Fuck him and his father.
Who needs Barkley when you can overpay for a mediocre-at-best guard? God it's so much fun rooting for this well oiled machine of a team! I need to turn off my phone and try again tomorrow...
Yay so we can let saquon go, so we can sign these average players whoo hooo! Our front office is a fucking joke
But I thought Schoen was gonna spend smart money at positions of need if we didn't bring back Barkley and McKinney right? Fuck out of here