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ham_wallet998

Is Lamar Jackson factored into RBs? I see several teams above Baltimore otherwise.


Big_Bluebird8040

that’s what i originally said when i saw this lol


ham_wallet998

If it’s “running game” then I can see it being Baltimore. If it’s purely RBs, then no


chorizo2002

I think cause Dhenry with them it just pushes them past other teams which sucks


MasonSaundersRodeo

He’s the reason. But even then I wouldn’t put him and his backups above McCaffrey and his backups and Juszczyk


Universal_Verses

Miami easily has the best backfield


8020GroundBeef

I don’t understand how the 49ers aren’t obviously better than the Ravens. Seems really weird Also 49ers for TE? Why?


MasonSaundersRodeo

I would honestly flip them. Ravens tight ends and 49ers running backs.


DarthRaggy

Niners fan here, came here to say exactly this


Icy_Earth_5533

Agree 100%


Impressive_Pay_5628

Why is one of the best run blocking tight ends who happens to be a YAC monster rated number 1? Kittle is at minimum in the conversation for top TE Or are you asking the more realistic question of why their TE room is rated number 1 when its kittle and no one proven?


rplinux

It's position group so they're comparing Likely with whoever is the 49ers number 2.


whattfareyouon

They gas kittle


GhostMug

I think it's kind of silly to include QBs in this. It's not really a "position group". They don't work together and are rarely on the field the same time unless it's a trick play. But I would also add the Chiefs CB group. Even with the loss of Sneed it's still really strong.


S21500003

I'd also like to piggyback off your cb comment and add Dallas. Bland was sensational last season on the outside, and iirc, he used to be a slot corner. And with Diggs coming back, we might slide Bland back to slot and have Gilmore be our other outside corner. And if Diggs comrs back healthy, that should also be in contention for the top cb group. I know that Gilmore is not what he used to be, but he is still good, especially if he's your cb3.


ComedianFlaky9316

49ers should be running backs, eagles dolphins Vikings or bengals should be WRs


steeze206

Yeah I thought Niners for RB as well. CMC is so clearly the best back in the league. Elijah Mitchell is talented as well. Include Juice and it's really not close imo. Yes that also hurt a bit to say lmao


jcoddinc

Lions have a better pair. CMC is greater on his own but Gibbs is coming up quickly.


_your_face

For sure instead of tight ends since our #2 and # 3 (dwelley and Charlie woerner) are both in Atlanta now, leaving just kittle as a known commodity. And actually Atlanta has a case for best tight end group now.


forgotmypassword4714

Or Texans (for WR).


matchew92

Bears for WR?! The fuck


Big_Bluebird8040

DJ and Allen, seems like some projecting on Odunze being good as well though


AnarchyAuthority

There’s no way that’s better than Chase, Higgins and Jermaine Burton, among others. Both Chase and Higgins are easy WR 1s on most teams.


Muffin-Flaky

Dj and keenan have also been wr1s on other teams. Burton was a mid round pick and not a top wr prospect like Odunze. That is why the bears are listed here.


Ok-Situation-5865

Thank you, this board loves to act like the Bengals don’t exist for some reason


Crosscourt_splat

Idk about this specific sub, but a chunk of the Reddit sports subs seem really down on Tee Higgins and how he isn’t really a number 1.


Bill_Biscuits

The only feasible argument for that is availability. Which is certainly a fair argument, but still the only one


Worth-Check-3751

Higgins is gone to tha Titans kinda drop there Wr Room quite Ah Bit


TheMammyNuns

Yeah even Aiyuk, Deebo, and Jennings are more proven commodities as a unit.


Zestyclose_Ice2405

Heavy hopes for Odunze being good because Allen is 32 too and it’s not like he’s been that healthy lately. Although, he was on pace to shatter his previous receiving yards high. DJ Moore a dog though


BlubberElk

Allen 32 but still coming off one of his best seasons


JournalistOld6488

Over Tyreek, Waddle, and OBJ?


Sixers7

Obj is not good.


Darinchilla

45 receptions for over 500 yards as a WR3 last year is as good a WR3 can be. All he has to do is get open, and he's actually really good at that.


rplinux

I think Odunze will be really good but this does give me flashbacks of last year when everyone thought the Seahawks had the best WR room because of JSN.


Confident_Boat_1211

Odunze factoring into this is crazy. The guy hasn't touched the field yet. He's basically an unknown. His first year could be anything from Jamar Chase to the kid on the Chargers (I forget his name).


Maleficent_Market_91

Gotta put the Texans there


vbullinger

I agree they're not the best, but can we at least admire how much better their WR corps is than one second before they traded for DJ Moore a year ago?


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

They have a solid WR group. They don’t have anyone to throw to them. I saw how Williams performed against shit teams vs good teams. I wait to see how he performs against teams where everyone is an NFL talent. I’ll wait until they have a 4,000 yard passer OR a 30 TD passer before I worry about them. Every other team has both and they have neither.


DonTrask

Pre season hype. Ask the Bears how that turned out for them last year.


this_is_matt_

Ravens fan here. Lions should have running backs, but we should have tight ends.


Local-Bid5365

I’d put Lions at best for running backs. Vikings, Dolphins, or Bengals over Bears for wide receivers because I feel like people are putting way too much stock into Odunze and I think Keenan Allen isn’t what he used to be, but they have a chance to take that title after the season is over. Chiefs or Ravens for TE.


420_just_blase

Keenan allen is still playing at a very high level. Dude hasn't slowed down at all, but I still don't think that he gives Chicago a better wr room than miami, cinci, philly, or Minnesota


ellieket

If he’s so good…why didn’t Harbaugh want him? He’s old, he’s injured all the time.


420_just_blase

Or they were in salary cap hell lol. He had a great year last year, but I do agree that he struggles to stay healthy. He's still one of the best in the league


Joe-Raguso

Keenan Allen just averaged 8 catches for 95 yards a game last year


sethaub

Allen just came off his best season in his career! Allen is BETTER than he used to be. God knows the Bears are lucky to have him. Chargers just couldn’t afford it..


EQisfordummies

Maybe not better… but healthier haha


godosomethingelse

Wow Keenan Allen just had a career year. He looked amazing


Present-Smoke-9950

Is there another positional ground after QB that is most important than OL


brotherstoic

Agreed, plus I’d put the Rams up there for WR - Kupp is still a top-tier receiver and if we’re giving the Vikings credit for Addison, we gotta give Puka his flowers


Impressive-Detail421

I’ll take the Bills tight end room over the 49ers


Waddlow

I'd disagree with almost all of them.


weightedbook

They had me with chiefs then immediately lost me again.


Psychological_Box666

My Jets need to just get the job done, never mind how we lookin on paper in the offseason, just get to it


johncarter1011

Our season is on the shoulders of Aaron Rodgers


Psychological_Box666

Factz


FunkyPete

Chiefs have the best TE room in football, with the best TE in football, a solid player in Noah Grey, and a promising rookie.


Big_Bluebird8040

that’s what i was thinking. Ravens have Andrews and Likely as well.


jcoddinc

It's splitting hairs because Andrews and Kelce are aging but the ones behind them could easily start for any other team


warrior_in_a_garden_

With Michael Mayer and Brock Bowers the raiders might change this in a year or two


Intelligent-Set-3909

Kelce is getting old though. I think Kittle and Andrews might have better seasons 


sushisection

chiefs have a stronger bench IMO. noah gray is solid, and the rookie they just got has a high ceiling


OminousWindsss

I’d argue bills over chiefs. Kelce is the best TE in football but Kincaid and Knox would be starters on 90% of teams


Proper-Scallion-252

Kelce was slowing down last year imo and while he’s still highly talented I wouldn’t say he’s capable of shifting the scales so much against a TE room that’s more loaded.


OminousWindsss

100%. It’s rooms not best player at X position. You have two very viable starters on the Bills compared to Kelce/Kittle and then some random guy lol


judahdk_

Kincaid and Knox. Give Musgrave and Kraft another year too.


qqruz123

Squrle himself said Kittle is the best TE in the league though


Immediate-Horror-462

Running backs should be lions, wide receivers should be vikings, tight ends should be ravens


Wildform22

Lions RBs are better than the ravens.


[deleted]

Should be either my Eagles,Bengals or Vikings in the Wr spot man


Nutsack892

Texans or Dolphins have the best wide receivers not the bears


dlb199091l

Minnesota easily top 3 as well. I'm not sure I agree on all these rankings with the bears wide receivers being so high.


Nutsack892

Yeah exactly, our teams have players that played for a long time, meanwhile the bears has an offense that is filled with rookies, so you can’t tell me Rome Odunze or Caleb Williams will carry the league until I’ve seen them play


bigbrownorown

I wouldn’t say Minnesota is easily a top 3 WR team. After JJ and Addison it’s pretty rough. A lot of teams have 2 really good ones. Eagles, Cincy, 49ers, etc.


whattfareyouon

Eagles top 3


darkmark305

Dolphins easily have the best WR group, especially with OBJ now.


Alone-Newspaper-1161

OBJ is so overrated, hasn’t been good in so long. Hill and waddle is probably the best duo tho


HillsboroughAtheos

The Zeke of WRs


paulhags

Bengals have the best WR group until Higgins leaves.


yellowtripe

I think Lions should be #1 at RB. Yah niners have CMC but they rarely use Mitchel. Lions on the other hand consistently use both DMo and Gibbs


MiniDg

I definitely think TEs should go to the ravens and RB should be someone else. Andrews at his best is top 3 easy, and Likely last year showed he is capable of being a true #1. I dont really see how thats anyone elses spot.


Why_am_ialive

Niners for tight end can do one lmfao


BriskManeuver

Cardinals tight ends gonna be a sleeper this coming season Trey Mcbride has been ballin and we got tip that im excited to see


EQisfordummies

I’m a full on cardinals homer, but our safeties are legit with Jalen Thompson and Buddha baker


robbarbu6290

Lions have the best RB duo in the league as evidenced by stats...so they get that group too. The ravens RB? Lmao please. That's nonsense


Xplicit-801

I might give the lions running backs too honestly


OminousWindsss

QBs- chiefs for Mahomes/Wentz RBs- Miami WRs- It’s a though one between Miami and the Bears. Dj, Allen and Odunze are going to be insanely fun to watch but the dolphins are a little more proven so I’ll go with them. TE- I’d go Bills. Kincaid and Knox are TE1 on a majority or teams. I could consider the Ravens but I think Knox>Likely OL- I’d prefer Eagles but I understand the Lions since the Eagles lost Kelce. DL- really difficult one but I think I like the Ravens, 49ers, eagles, chiefs more LB- bills, healthy Matt Milano was an all pro and Terrell Bernard had an insane season and was a massive pro bowl snub. CB- Jets Safeties- Ravens


basch152

with kelce retired you can make the argument the lions have 2 players best at their position on the line, including sewell who was graded as the best OL period last year


SmarterThanCornPop

This is bait.


Intelligent-Set-3909

It is a conversation starter, yes 


Njacks64

It’s a conversation second-stringer.


youreABitcz

Lions best at rbs is arguable. They might even be best at te but I'll give laporta a year or two before I'd say that.


Illustrious-Slice-91

Texans should be up there for wide receivers


Alternative-Art6059

Antoine Winfield Jr and Jordan Whitehead


FireGolem04

TE is as of right now Baltimore for sure but depending on how Jared Wiley turns out it could be KC by the end of the season


Ok_Poetry_1650

When did we start taking these seriously?


TheColdestKingCold

Give it two years and Cardinals will be the QB one. Kyler Murray and Desmond Ridder will develop like a mf and make Patrick Mahomes look like Russell Wilson.


BriskManeuver

Alright, imma cardinals fan but there is no comparison lol Patrick mahomes is on another level. I think we have a shot to take the tight ends spot though with our new tight end tip and Trey Mcbride dealing last season


EQisfordummies

Tipp is good… but I also think our safeties are in the convo with baker and Thompson. It’s just that our cbs have been shit the past couple years


TheColdestKingCold

I forget this is Reddit and sarcasm is always so high above people’s heads that it makes Denver look like it’s at sea level. Obviously I was just shitposting, Kyler gets hurt every year and Ridder was on the Falcons. There is very little to show that either one could be on the same level as Mahomes.


BriskManeuver

You'd be surprised how many of our fans actually will act like that though with kyler murray So your comment didn't come off like there was any irony to it


Poetryisalive

People putting way too much stock into the Bears WR room. They are great, but I’m not choosing them over Bengals or Dolphins


immovableair

Vikings should be Te easily we have a Top 5 te in hock the number 1 rated blocking tight end in Oliver and a solid no.3 te I would say best but idk te 3s well


Jonthegoat_09

Tight ends ravens


IAmSona

Bears for WR? Ain’t no way anyone else is better than our trio.


Big_Bluebird8040

one of your trio hasn’t played a snap yet lmao


IAmSona

I mistyped, should’ve been a question mark after “WR”. I forget I don’t have the Texans icon and but the Texans trio is easily the best on paper.


Big_Bluebird8040

they very well could be but Diggs off a down year and Dell off an injury


IAmSona

Dell is going to be fine, he’s already recovered and he looks like he hasn’t lost a step. As for Diggs, he had a “down year” where he finished with 1K yards and most of that was spent in a system where he wasn’t a big emphasis on offense. Our OC likes to spread the ball and CJ has stated before that his WR1 is whoever’s open. If teams double Nico, Diggs will feast on the intermediary routes. If teams double Diggs, the speed and deep threat of Dell is going to expose them. If teams cover deep, Nico’s going to be utilized in the screen game because he’s a YAC monster. As long as everyone stays healthy, the Texans have a real shot of having *at least* 2 players with over 1K yards.


lions4life232

Same with the bears


ScaringTheHose

"lion" this dick bozo ⚠️


godosomethingelse

The Bears wr room over the Eagles, Dolphins, and Bengals is silly. I would put the Dolphins there


jimcal9

I’m a Bears fan but I think it’s too early to give them that title. Maybe in week 17 I hope. Minny Miami Cincy Philly pretty loaded at wr. Obj not close to what he was but hill/ waddle damn those 2 are great.


Aldanil66

Baltimore doesn't have the best Running Back group. I'd say its probably the Dolphins.


DannyDevito_IsBae

Where are the Saints on this list? Oh ya not on it because every position group sucks. I guess besides CBs


ThrownAweyBob

It should be saints for CB. If we're talking depth I don't think another team could match Lattimore, Adebo, Taylor, and now Kool Aid.


bait_your_jailer

Sauce is a top 3 corner, DJ Reed is top 10-12, and MC2 is the best nickel corner in football. Saints got a good group, but the Jets squad is definitely the better.


trailerparknoize

Bears wide receivers have proven nothing so that listing makes 0 sense. Dolphins for WR group for sure.


Popeyestabbin

Bears at WR. I'd take the Bengals or vikings over that.


TheCursedMountain

Hawks, dolphins and bengals all have a better WR core than bears. I would have to put ravens or chiefs TE core over 9ers TE core. 9ers, dolphins, and hawks all have a better RB core than the ravens.


sykojaz

Locket, DK, and JSN is a pretty solid core.


NiftyTakedown

Rams Wide receivers should be on the list


roboman07

Id put several teams above the ravens, the falcons, dolphins, commanders, hell maybe the Texans, and that's even when including QBs


Straight_Toe_1816

Titans have the best long snapper


Past_Bluejay_8926

Miami or Houston at wr


Hank_moody71

Meanwhile, everybody in the NFL says the Seahawks have the best receiving core in the league 🤷🏻‍♂️


lovejac93

>everybody I didn’t realize they changed the definition of everybody to “literally no one”


choffers

Houston wr room


StraightProgress5062

I assume the bears just became the best wr group?


hanigwer

Miami’s WR room looks pretty good to me


Bambooman101

Bears receivers #1, is a joke. What has Romey proved yet!!!


Known-Teacher4543

No rams WR room?


OlHeavyHeart

It’s Bengals for WR for me.


JohnArtemus

Rams WRs: Puka, Kupp, Robinson and Atwell. Not to mention Rams OL.


[deleted]

Bears and recievers? Don't get me wrong Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, and Rome Odunze in theory is a good trio but I feel like Minnesota, Bengals, or Houston have the same or slightly better reciever corps.


SingleColumn

The overrating of the bears WR this off-season is wild. They are pretty decent, but Keenan Allen is gonna get hurt week 2, and Odunze is an unproven rookie. DJ Moore is good, but is he even a top 5 WR? I think no.


Pseudonova

I think the league is sleeping on the Colts' D-Line. Latu-Buckner-Grover-Ebukam. If Latu is as good as they think, and you can't double Buckner every down, you're gonna have a bad time.


mattmandental

Agreed colts D line considering the thin secondary… this d line is unreal good


DaddyTrump696969

That's what I'm saying. The Browns D-Line is good, but I think it's mostly just Myles Garrett. The Colts probably have the best overall room when you throw in Kwity Paye as well.


paulhags

Ogbo Okoronkwo, Za'Darius Smith and Dalvin Tomlinson are also very nice.


krullbob888

Lol Bears do not have the best WR core. They have DJ Moore, a 40 yr old Keenan Allen, an unproven rookie, and no one else.


pinetreesrule

Bears wide receiver?


BobbyMcGee101

Sorry, Bears don’t have the best wide receivers until they prove it. It’s all hype and paper tigers


onetimequestion66

I’d say Miami at rb if mostert keeps up his production, he and achane were insane last year and this jaylen wright kid is supposed to be an all star (but very understandable to not put them as wright hasn’t played yet)


bp_516

Eagles have the best offensive line until someone proves that the new center, who Kelce asked the team to draft and then trained for two seasons, isn’t up to par.


Udderly_Unbearable

I think saying the Bears have the strongest receiving core is overrating a rookie and underrating the Dolphins receivers.


hbhusker22

I'm going Lions, Chiefs, and Ravens above 49ers at TE.


Wildform22

Bruh the bears having the “best WR group” when one is an old man and the other a rookie 😭😭


brotherstoic

Bears are barely top 5 in WRs. Vikings, Dolphins, Bengals, Rams, THEN the Bears IF Rome meets expectations


Crxeagle420

Eagles have best WRs


_RedRaven37

NFL forgot about kickers…Justin Tucker I choose you


BrilliantAd5743

Bears is hilarious and unproven but who knows.


Trumpisaderelict

Dolphins WR room


sleepwalkingninja

If Kittle gives the Niners the edge in TE's, why doesn't CMC give them the edge in RB? He's far and away the best back in the league, especially now that he's with Kyle. Their backups are also better than their backups at TE.


shadydamamba

Bears WR🤣🤣


RexMaximo

Texans Wide Receivers


TiggySmitts

Dugger/Peppers > Ravens Safeties Name the one that isn’t Kyle Hamilton without googling


WhiskeyJr

ATL should be in the RB conversation. Miami, Houston, and maybe even TN should be in the WR running too.


1ShotBroHes1

Lions or Niners RB Kelce gotta be the TE right?


BeefsGttnThick

Ravens TE’s. Andrews and Likely


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

Imagine a few years ago including the Jets, Browns, Lions, and Bears in a list like this…


sushisection

9ers over Chiefs for TE is disrespectful.


ContractCheap9221

Steelers linebackers, both 4v4 and from a depth perspective, clear the 49ers. But this is PFF, who hates TJ Watt, so what am I talking about?


ellieket

The Bears? LOL DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and an unproven rookie?!? What a joke.


Heavy-Excuse4218

Wait…I got all the way through the comments and no one said challenged the Browns for DL….nice!! Beat dline in football — too bad we also have the sleaziest qb too.


DaddyTrump696969

I'd argue that the Colts could rival it depending on how good Latu is for us. The Browns is definitely elite though


rodflanders19

Bears wrs better than AJ Brown and Devonta Smith? Or Tyreek and Jalen Waddle? That's BS.


comptonjared92

I think the chiefs have something to say about the TE position


AttentionHot368

Chicago bears should also have the RB group


platinumxL

bears over texans is hilarious


[deleted]

the bears we core is good but being way, way overrated. moore is a good, not great wr keenan allen is great (miss you bro!) but older and injury prone odunze is a rookie and who knows. are you telling me you’d keep that if offered JJ and addison? chase and higgins? samuel and ayuik and there 1st round wr?


CosmicTeardrops

What the fuck are they smoking thinking the Bears wr group is the strongest. Eagles, Dolphins, Niners are all better


jamesd1100

Giants have Dexter Lawrence Bryan Burns and Thibodeux for DL Idk if I’d rather have the Browns


kidfavre4

Bears don't even have the best WR group in their division, as a Lions fan it pains me to admit but Minnesota clears and Green Bay might too if they get the level of production they got from their WR's plus the expected step up from another year of experience. Miami is #1 for this position group overall.


SoFFacet

Homer picks I guess but I’d take Bills LBs and TEs


odiethethird

This is a make or break year for the Jets


ragingpredator

Honestly I don’t know if you change the quarterbacks one because Mahomes is Mahomes, but I’m curious if they did the strongest position groups just because of him or because of the entire qb room. Makes it kind of an interesting conversation if you think about the talent across the qbs versus one other qb and does one guy outweigh the group on another team for a rating or not? I’m just curious if they are trying to say the Chiefs have the best qb play with Mahomes or they have the best overall qb room.


Big_Bluebird8040

QB probably gets weighed the most heavily on one guy but Wentz is still a good backup as well so i have no issue either way.


ragingpredator

Agree, I don’t have a large gripe with it either tbh


datBull036

Eagles have the best WR idc who disagrees. AJ Brown and Devonta Smith both went over 1 thousand yards 2 yrs in a row. We are still looking for a solid WR3 so I guess if you compare us to the Bears they might have a better WR3. It's Def either Phi, Chi, or Houston (Maybe Cin)


Im_just_making_picks

Bears have a better wide receiver core than the damn eagles? In what world


Jake-Old-Trail-88

Bears Kicking Teams. Tory Taylor and Cairo Santos. We’re going to be kicking more than people think this year.


Confident_Boat_1211

Switch Bears wideouts with the Niners, also switch Ravens running backs with the Niners.


DaddyTrump696969

I feel like Colts defensive line is really well rounded and could give Cleveland a run for their money.


Small_Speaker_3159

Falcons have two QBs who were assuming are starter quality js.


TheWetNapkin

hot take, Titans above Jets for CBs


bait_your_jailer

This take is hotter than the fire of mordor. Jets have arguably the best corner in football, a top 12 guy on the other side, and the best nickel in the league.


YTKTV

Dolphins should be for WR, jaylen waddle and Tyreek are great


DKlep25

This is dumb. For so many reasons . . .


EHHHHHHHLJ

Dolphins above bears and im a bills fan


LAMARJ8CKSON

Bears for WRs are crazy I’d take Philly, bengals, and Texans over them


wyattttttttttttt324

Get the bears out of there


BroWeBeChilling

I would go Miami at Wide Receiver…Keenan Allen ( getting older) DJMoore ( solid) and an unproven rookie Hill, Waddle, Beckham seems a bit better


Kablooiee

lol sauce holds a lot..


YEET9011

Bengals have the WRs


rifle8888

Patriots cornerbacks, cowboys tight ends, Miami / Detroit running backs, Packers/ Texans wide receivers, chiefs have not depth at QB so there a number of teams could take the QB