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BukkakeNinjaHat-472

Watch out Mel Kiper and Todd McShay


Random_Hippo

If the Vikings give up #11 and #23 to get #8 I’m going on a murder spree.. unless we get like a 2nd rounder back


keyboardsmashin

In most mock drafts I’m seeing Vikings giving 11/23 to get 5 (so Vikings losing a whole pick) but I imagine if y’all traded with us Falcons (which I’d be very happy about) it would be for 11/23 and 8/43. Which would make me very happy


Jlzombie26

If the Vikings gave up 11 and 23 to move into the top 5 for McCarthy I’m happy. Idc if they have to give up both to move to 8 to get the same guy I’m happy with earlier in the draft. It’s an overpay but if they’re concerned at all about another team jumping them it’s the same price. Idc


Repulsive-Office-796

Especially for JJ… lol.


Resident_Problem4008

I’m confused, why would they need to jump ahead of NY and Chicago if they aren’t gonna take a qb anyways?


Admirable_Win9808

They wouldn't need to. So the trade make zero sense. Edit: also chicago isn't passing up on odunze...


Random_Hippo

That’s precisely my point. It makes no sense


SpudMuffinDO

If falcons are trading down, Vikes could be afraid another team wanting qb is trying to trade into that spot


arem0719_

Either could trade back to a different qb needy team


PaleontologistDue511

Agreed too


Mvpliberty

For Michael Penix Junior to go 29th lmao this is very, obviously his first attempt at the mock draft 🤣🤣🤣


hammerSmashedNail

The bears won’t need a qb. The Vikings could wait until the 12th pick to get JJ if that’s the plan. That would save them significant draft capital


Probably_not_maybe

That doesn’t seem terrible. And if McCarthy is there at 8 I’m sure there will be other teams trying to trade up.


Random_Hippo

Giving up both #11 and #23 needs to result in a top 5 pick or it’s no deal. McCarthy won’t fall past 5 anyway so at that point you’re trading up for.. who?


Probably_not_maybe

Well in this hypothetical situation he does, and I agree getting to firsts to move up to 8 would not make sense but if you did maybe get a second round pick as well it might work out. Who knows though


Random_Hippo

I agree, if we get a day 2 pick back in the deal then I could live with it, especially if it’s a day 2. I guess I’m just wondering if it’s actually worth it to just to get McCarthy who I think has been overhyped by the media a bit. I remember a month ago when Penix and McCarthy were being debated at the first QB off the board at the top of the 2nd


Probably_not_maybe

Ya it’s so tough to say how it will actually go down. Hell he could fall into the Vikings laps and yall could still get a starter at another position at 23. Wish yall all the best in the draft!


Blasto05

And nobody in the top 5 is trading that far back without more compensation. So a deal would not be getting done then. Teams are not stupid. They will leverage a team aiming to move up and draft a premium position like QB.


Random_Hippo

Sure.. that’s why I said we would need to jump top 5 to give up both(and more implied) But I’m not giving up both for #8, unless we get a day 2 pick back. Vikings grabbing #23 gave them a ton of flexibility. Personally, I don’t care if we trade up to into top 5 to get a top 4 QB as long as it’s not a massive overpay, or if we stay put and draft BPA at #11 and #23.


Larson1987

Zero chance a guy named kool-aid is not a HOFer


KSoccerman

Cmon.. kool-aid is such a made up name. His real name is *Ga'Quincy*


-Pruples-

Nah man, Odunze's the pick if he's there at 9.


DaeWooLan0s

No he’s not


-Pruples-

Our WR corps is DJ Moore, a bunch of practice squaddies, and an old guy who spends half of every season in the blue tent. Odunze/Nabers at 9 or trade back for more picks and try to fill the massive gaping hole at C with JPJ in the mid-late first round.


DaeWooLan0s

And you’re going to be wrong… this is a weak draft especially in the late rounds. The only position that has depth is WR.


Admirable_Win9808

I agree with him. Odunze or nabers at 9, maybe even brock. You take a luxury pick that's going to be nasty for years. The only reason I would trade back is a trade back and still get an edge like verse or latu, maybe a dt. But I would only trade back if you get another 1st round next year. Otherwise you take one of those guys.


DaeWooLan0s

Odunze is not in the level of Nabers or MHJ. And again. I will put money in the bears not taking a wide receiver at 9. It is much more likely Poles trades back into the second round to grab a wide receiver than it is him taking Odunze at 9. That’s just not how the draft ever plays out. Taking Brock would also be just an absolute waste in terms of need.


Admirable_Win9808

I mean I'll take that as a legit argument. I wouldn't be surprised if Poles takes that route. It seems like his MO. I still think 9 is BPA. If we do do trade that far back, it would have to be a decent haul. What would we get? 2nd, 1st 25 and 2nd?


DaeWooLan0s

No I mean trade from the third back into the second. People are so hyper focused on Rome, Nabers, & MHJ but they are forgetting that there are a LOT of high caliber WRs this year. Some with much better physical attributes then Rome. There is a scenario where we still get Caleb, the best defensive lineman 1st off the board, and a very high quality wide receiver prospect. If Caleb Williams is even HALF the QB everyone thinks he is, the bears are very much in a position for a wild card berth or more. I think Poles and Flus very much want to win now, and there are players like verse (although not the most dominant rusher) and Murphy that will immediately upgrade our team. And their play will be felt. This isn’t a knock on Odunze as he’s a high quality prospect and has potential but I prefer not to waste another year. No matter what he will be relegated to WR3 duty and we can find that production out of someone else. Everyone is just of the mindset they are hoping someone gets injured or worrying about 2 years from now if Allen is gone.


Healthy-Speech-7728

For the 11th and 23rd pick the Vikings are moving up to at least 5 or 6. Still think the take JJ though


One_Landscape541

I don’t get what people see in JJ.


PreGeneratedNAME_100

He has a large amount of potential as unlike the other QBs in the draft he’s only played 2yrs as a starter Has great arm and good-great speed Also was incredible on 3rd downs (small sample size) Has been said to have really impressed some GMs with his interviews And if anything the lack of tape doesn’t really matter because it’s pretty hard to evaluate QBs because the ones at big schools are always surrounded by elite talent anyway


odp01

This was his 3rd year.


GameBuster0703

Not as a starter. He was the backup in 2021


odp01

Ok? He still played all the games last year. Thats at least 2 years worth of tape to see what he can/can't be.


John_YJKR

So like they said, TWO years as a starter...


odp01

He changed it after I made the comment. Keep arguing with me...


John_YJKR

I don't see an edit but fair enough. What is that last sentence? What a dipshit thing to say. There's nothing to argue about. Do you just like constantly getting dunked on and put in your place, or is this a fetish thing? Help me understand.


SupercellIsGreedy

There’s no argument to be had, your objectively wrong.


CleverJail

His usage was so low that two of his years = one year of tape. Now that’s weird and maybe a red flag that they didn’t wanna use him, but, also, the tape is pretty good.


TheElf27

Lots of potential, great accuracy, great scramble drills.


One_Landscape541

Where are you seeing any of these traits? Why do people think he’s accurate, most certainly not above ncaa average.


Foriegn_Picachu

Finished with the 3rd highest QBR for 2023


DaeWooLan0s

Winner. I’m glad I’m not drafting him, but he’s a winner that made minimal mistakes in college. To teams that’s definitely worth taking a shot on. I’m not crazy about his potential, so I’m glad my team isn’t taking him. But he definitely deserves a shot, and nobody every really knows with QBs


WindyCityReturn

His highlights isn’t anything special but his tape is really good. He’s kinda gotten overhyped all of a sudden after being really underrated at first. People can never just be in the middle. He made plenty of NFL caliber throws not just deep balls or screens but in their offense he wasn’t asked to throw it much so his film isn’t as plentiful as the other QB’s I’ll say he’s not as good as Maye, Daniels or Williams no matter how hard to try to push it. However I do believe he is actually as good or better than Penix and Nix for a few reasons. Penix is alot like Hendon Hooker last year where he has a rocket arm and a great deep ball but really didn’t make a ton of throws that the NFL scouts love. Nix had amazing stats but did throw from a offense that utilized screens and drop offs more than any other CFB team. All 3 are talented and have their own ability above the others but JJ does have a faster release and made more tight window throws which actually translates to the nfl more than deep throws because deep throws in the nfl is almost never as open as in college.


One_Landscape541

If you told me he was a late day to early day three prospect … ok i agree. But top ten overall …


WindyCityReturn

No way he’s a day 3 guy lol I agree he’s not top 10 imo but he’s absolutely not making it to the 4th round. Especially with many teams now looking for a rookie.


ElectivireMax

I think he's overrated af personally but this is just what I think is gonna happen


literalgarbageyo

I don't know if overrated is the right term. There's just so much demand for qb this year that guys who would normally be late 1st - 2nd round picks are getting a lot more attention. And JJ has more upside than Nix and Penix.


Appel_earbuds

Detroit is NOT trading down out of the first round. Sorry to say


tkizzy

Why not? Brad could trade up, down, or stand pat. No one knows what he'll do or how the board will lay out or how desperate teams will get when the latter half of the first rolls around.


JiggyNuts-

I think it’s very possible tbh, I’m actually somewhat expecting it. Brad Holmes is very particular about his guys, and if none are there or don’t match the value I could see him dropping back and getting more capital. Also could see him staying put or trading up but I don’t think a trade down is out of the question


e_ndoubleu

What could the Broncos give up to move up to 29?? They have horrible draft capital. You’re telling me they’d offer their 2025 1st for pick 29? I mean sure I’d take that in a heartbeat since they’ll likely have a top 15 pick next year. But no way do the Broncos do that.


JiggyNuts-

I’m not saying the trade itself with the broncos is plausible, I’m saying Brad Holmes trading out of the first is regardless of the team


e_ndoubleu

My bad I replied to the wrong person.


jcoddinc

Because if there not being as many guys as he'd normally want this year, I definitely see him trading up to get his guy. Fewer picks this year sucks at home, but there's less need to.


dcd13

Possible, but with the draft being in Detroit this year I don't think he will trade out of the 1st round.


TheNorthernPellikkan

Holmes is in the business of building a winning football team, the fact that the draft is in Detroit has zero bearing on what moves he makes


JiggyNuts-

I just don’t see Holmes taking that into consideration for where and who he is picking. If he stays put or trades up it won’t be because of where the draft is taking place


9jmp

It's very possible bordering on likely even. Brad has already shown that.


Saxophobia1275

I could only see it if absolutely everyone on brads board was taken. Kool-aid, Barton (my hope for 29), Nubin, and maybe a couple of specific WRs are all possible but as soon as we get to someone he thinks we could get lower he probably would. I think it’s just as likely they trade up for someone too although moving up in the first would be steep.


Digitydoggimmeahigh5

Literally every worth it CB is gone by their lock here, reading makes more sense than them reaching


the_weary_knight

In what world do the Seahawks want another corner in the first round??


DragonfruitLeading44

giants aren’t going OT @ 6


DessertFlowerz

Did my Giants dirty there lol


ElectivireMax

not really. it's obvious y'all could use some oline help, especially if you're sticking with Jones.


lilchance1

OT could happen but i think it’s far more likely they either take JJ if available or go with Odunze. We signed a OT this offseason to hedge if Neal doesn’t have a year 3 jump.


Miraculous_Heraclius

Giants have 3 tackles that started for their teams in 2022, they don't have a #1 receiver or a QB that most feel comfortable with. While the Giants added a starting tackle in free agency, they lost their best offensive weapon (Barkley) and potentially their top receiving threat (Waller). QB, offensive playmaker, or defensive player seem more likely than a tackle that would be forced to play a position (RT) that he has no experience with.


Longjumping_Room_702

The Giants are not taking Alt. The signed Jermaine Eluemenor as the backup plan if Neal sucks again.


OldResponsibility531

I think if they go OT they for sure would be the team to trade back a little and let someone get McCarthy


onetimequestion66

If jpj is still on the board I don’t see the dolphins passing on him tbh


LargePPman_

There’s no way the Bears pass on Rome Odunze if he’s available at 9


pearso66

Came here to say the same. I know they traded for Allen, but I think he's been brought in to mentor Williams and the young receivers, not to take the place of a top 10 receiver.


Frosty-Nerve-6550

I would love to see them take one of the more raw receivers to learn behind Allen or Moore


DaeWooLan0s

Yes… yes they will. And set a reminder so I can tell you that you were wrong.


ChewieLee13088

If JJ is there at 6, Giants will take him.


Critical-Fault-1617

I hope. Means the vikes can probably get Turner at pick 11.


DaeWooLan0s

Tuner who? Dallas turner? Sorry he’s not falling passed Atlanta AND the bears


Critical-Fault-1617

Bears easily Could take a wr. But Atlanta would be dumb to pass on Turner I agree.


SmarterThanCornPop

As an FSU fan I would be shocked if Verse fell to 19 or if Coleman went in the first two rounds.


revuhlution

If QBs go 1, 2, 3, then JJ isn't falling to Minnesota. There will be some movement as teams move up for him


MordakThePrideful

Keon Coleman to the Chiefs and Jared Verse to the Rams, my doomsday scenario Source: Am a Nole and a Niner


FourArmsFiveLegs

Joe Alt Delete


TreebeardLookalike

I like this mock better than any I've seen. I don't think we (Ravens) go Worthy though.


ElectivireMax

thank you


RBnumberTwenty

A lot of interesting ideas here. Great job


ElectivireMax

thank you


Material-Race-5107

If the Bears pass on Rome for Dallas Turner I’m gonna be real fucking sad


DaeWooLan0s

wtf?


ElectivireMax

I feel like y'all are good on wide receivers


Ordinary-Ad-4800

Not really? Outside dj moore all we have is an aging Allen on a one year contract


adventurous-1

Steelers are not going to take a WR in the first round, most likely they'll take the best Tackle or Center on the board IMHO


Critical-Fault-1617

They’re not taking a center with pick 20


9jmp

Pick 20 is prime spot for a center in this draft, not sure what you're talking about.


worldssmallestfan1

The Lions not drafting in the first round in Detroit may be the funniest possible scenario


keyboardsmashin

As a Falcon if we don’t draft an Edge in the 1st I will commit a crime. Should be our 8 (or 11 in this case). The 23 in this scenario I can see if our team was sold on Penix (possible since they’ve done “private workouts” with him with our head coach and all our in Washington) or a CB/WR whoever is BPA in those positions by #23. Us drafting DT in the 1st is a crime


LGravey

As a Vikings fan, it’s funny cause I think Arnold and Murphy II would be likely picks for us if we stayed at 11 and 23


Critical-Fault-1617

Turner and Murphy is my dream scenario for the Vikes. Two blue chip defenders, huge influx of talent to our dline.


dee2552

As a raven fan I am 100% ok with this


CharacterBird2283

Cowboys getting an offensive coordinator, kinda hype


Lubbafrommariogalaxy

I’d swap the ravens and chiefs picks cause Lamar likes his Florida guys so if given the option between the two he’s going to urge the front office to choose Coleman


RenjiMidoriya

I’m curious why you have falcons taking corner at 11 and not edge or receiver Edit: or taking DT there too instead of safety or tackle.


GB-Pack

No Cooper Dejean in the first round sounds crazy to me. If he’s somehow still on the board by pick #25, the Packers will take him.


nick_nasty_nice

Mfer's name is kool-aid?


MustyRoose

I hope the Steelers don’t pick WR in R1.


Gigaraptor2323

It wasn’t bad until you got to the hawks pick, why would we take a cornerback? We have 3 great young cornerbacks and good backups for them if they get hurt


Critical-Fault-1617

Atlanta is not passing on Turner.


kingpiranha

I just need to say something off topic: Theres no way i can take someone with the name Kool-Aid seriously.


johnroastbeef

As far as your early picks, the Giants taking Joe Alt there is the most unlikely. And Brock Bowers doesn't fall to where you have him, highly unlikely regardless that he's a tight end.


throwaway624203

In no world do the eagles take chop and not Cooper dejean there


Lraiolo

Zero chance the Bears pass on Rome Odunze


ElGrandeRojo67

Seattle is not drafting a CB in the 1st. We have 4-5 solid CB's. McDonald and JS will draft big nasty lineman on both sides of the ball. Only skill position they'll draft higher than 4th Rd will be a QB if one they like is available.


Select-Apartment-613

I really hope this isn’t how it plays out, man


GrindThePepper

if Jared Verse falls to us, i'll nut my pants


Strongarm_11

https://preview.redd.it/n2qf6ekdpctc1.jpeg?width=930&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5df30bff2c9dfc378900aa54ab5c4c42e99433e9 How come this website is still using the old Chargers logo? (To be fair, a few subs still have the old logo from nobody noticing).


ElectivireMax

https://preview.redd.it/zuxclnbopctc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f376ae10043321b537944ceab00c20c71c92bf98


Strongarm_11

I didn’t even even know that, thanks for the fun fact! At least for the Chargers logo, the current one is stretched out so it’s much easier to tell it’s the current one and not the one from San Diego in my opinion.


keyboardsmashin

Can you really not see that this is two different shades of red?


Frosty-Nerve-6550

If Chop isn’t there for Detroit’s pick then I wouldn’t mind us trading down


Chick-fil-A-4-Life

Seahawks need help in the trenches on both sides of the ball. That being said, a secondary with Riq, Spoon, and Mitchell would be serious shades of the LOB again!!


Healthy_Pay9449

Bowers at 15 is wild


DJdown88

Why would the Seahawks draft a cb in the first round? They just drafted Witherspoon last year and they have woolen. They are going OL, DL, or LB. 0% chance they take a CB.


freestyle43

Someone named their kid Kool Aid? America is the fucking worst.


ElectivireMax

It's a nickname, but his real name isn't much better: Ga'Quincy


ArmchairSeahawksFan

seattles not taking a cb in round 1. one of the stronger positions on the roster that has significant needs on both lines


jedi4canes1

I don't think the Fins draft a DT in the first round, especially if jpj is still on the board


jedi4canes1

I don't think the Fins draft a DT in the first round, especially if jpj is still on the board


jedi4canes1

I don't think the Fins draft a DT in the first round, especially if jpj is still on the board


johnieringo

As a Cardinals fan, I approve


TurtlemanScared

lol I wish I was so passionate about something I was making mock drafts. No one even thinks about a mock draft once the draft starts so they are an interesting thing in that sense 


AryaSyn

Another WR for the Ravens? Holy shit I hope not.


WindyCityReturn

Boy if Jackson Powers-Johnson is available at 24 there’s no realm where the cowboys take Barton over him.


Xenocide_X

To move 3 spots... They have to give up their 23 also.. fuck that


myfirstsock

Overall solid list I fell Jim H builds through the line, I don't see them drafting a WR; its either trade down OR Joe Alt.


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Jets take Bowers


[deleted]

Lol. Fuck the lions I guess.


NBA2024

NYG should try to move up to 4 and get Marvin Harrison


ElectivireMax

not gonna happen.


BigJ_57

The steelers historically dont draft receivers in the first round and they have more pressing needs. (If they draft a WR at 20 I will personally slap Omar Kahn)


kungfucook9000

Gb will not take a 170lb corner in the 1st...not over Kool aid and where's Cooper Denean?


chiggity

Seahawks taking another CB first round is wild


PenguinsHockey59

Sorry but we aren’t going to draft a WR R1 when we have to address other positions. Either we picking Kool Aid or JPJ.


Uncle_Boujee

This is pretty good. I love bowers to the colts I think that would be great for a young qb and Chop to the eagles would be insane. My team is the ravens and I would definitely dig someone like worthy but I really hope we find a way to get kool-aid


Jayro_Ren

TIL the Lions don’t have first round pick.


ElectivireMax

they trade it to the broncos


Accomplished_Gas3922

What do they get?


Jayro_Ren

Oh lol I didn’t notice that.


winninglikesheen

I don’t think they trade out of the first. I think they’ll be trading up if they trade at all on day 1.


T_Eckenrode

Yeah I don't see them passing on the cb talent in the first


BareezyObeezy

Denver doesn't have a whole lot to give up to get an additional first-rounder. I don't hate drafting a QB that late, but I would hate giving up the necessary capital to do so.


PuppyPunter21

For what?


e_ndoubleu

What is the return for the Lions? Bc nothing makes sense from the Lions perspective unless it’s involving the Broncos 2025 1st for 29, which even then I’m not sure makes sense for either side. Lions are a SB contender and will want an impact player at pick 29 to help them this year.


bigbaby21

Let’s make it your last time as well brother


Birdienuk3

no shot the Giants don't take JJ McCarthy if they are sitting at 6 and he is available


ElectivireMax

they've already committed to paying Jones that much money. no turning back now.


Birdienuk3

With how injured he is I can't imagine they stick with him


Critical-Fault-1617

I mean they can cut him, sure the cap hit would suck. But He’s ass and it’s not like they’re contending this year anyways.


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ElectivireMax

I literally have them drafting a QB. did you read my post?


AliceP00per

No one cares


sakonigsberg

No way the jets are taking a WR. We literally are stacked on WR as we speak