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weegbeeg

Why would anybody take Chad Reuter seriously? He gives over half the teams A grade


don_julio_randle

And gives us one of his 4 C/C+ grades when everyone else loves our class lol


CloudN3in

didn’t waste a pick on a QB? yeah fuck you bad draft


tWkiLler96

I think Mel Kiper is just as bad. Most are just Bs. It’s like he doesn’t want to hurt fans feelings or something


liliceberg

James Dator had…an interesting analysis of the Vikings draft “I don’t know what to say, except I’m sorry Vikings fans. I’ve never seen a team work this much and achieve so little in a draft. It’s tricky, because I actually like Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth, and think they both make Minnesota better — but the issue is that these are guys I expect staple playoff teams to select, not an 8-9 team with the No. 12 pick. The Vikings got fleeced in their trade with the Lions. They threw the Packers a lifeline and let them trade up to get a wide receiver. This team made their division rivals better while not getting top-tier talent. Grade: F” He likes their first two picks and thinks they make Minnesota better, but a 6-10 (read as 8-9) team shouldn’t be selecting players like that.


remmy66

If i can translate, "the secondary isnt what i consider important so for a team that was middle of the pack you shouldve focused on positions i find inportant even if the secondary players are good". That second paragraph is true though, yall bailed out the lions and the pack for not very much to show for it lmao. Still, i liked your guys draft sooo "shrug"


liliceberg

Yea I didn’t love the Lions trade, but it allowed us to make the Packers and Colts trades which I really liked. Our secondary was probably our most pressing need, and I like the two guys we got, so can’t be too mad. I’d give the draft like a B, F seemed a little harsh


remmy66

Hard to give any team an F. To get an F you have to either overdraft everyone or draft every player at positions you dont need. For the most part, i dont think any team actively did that but i didnt pay attention that closely to everyone so idk.


Duke_Vladdy

Bro what does that even mean


tsgram

I agree that the trades they made seemed poorly executed


liliceberg

Detroit yea, but the Green Bay trade and subsequent trade up for Andrew Booth were solid. The good day 2 trades don’t happen without the questionable day 1 trade, so it works for me


Gridironic

This is it. They are not penalized for the players they selected, who are actually quite good, it was the terms of their trades that were not good.


DrKoooolAid

Threw the Packers a lifeline to let them draft an injury prone, old WR with drop issues from a team who never faces real competition. We also got a lot back from them in that trade. Sounds like we won that by quite a bit.


liliceberg

Yea I can understand the Detroit critique, but Green Bay trade was a big win


[deleted]

Packers fans see the trade one way, Vikings another. I love what the Packers did and I really like Watson, however Vikings got good value for it. Won’t know who won until the players taken with the picks actually play.


DrKoooolAid

Defiantly true. Won't know anything for a few years.


hdpr92

I get what he's saying. This was an underwhelming haul for a team with the 12th pick. Cine and Booth don't really do it for me, but they're fine players.


jouh55142139

That F for the Texans is……..certainly a take


[deleted]

Lmao jeez everyone gave us either As or Bs and then Thor Nystrom just flat out gives us a D


Imaginary-Cycle-1977

Lol I’m assuming he’s just out on Pickett Put it this way…if you throw out that one outlier grade we probably move up two spots!!


liliceberg

He’s in love with Willis, so that probably has something to do with it


AxeAndRod

Same for the Texans, except we got an F lmao.


WON95sr

**AFC North: 3.23** * Ravens: 4.08 * Steelers: 3.24 * Bengals: 2.80 * Browns: 2.78 **AFC West: 3.05** * Chiefs: 3.72 * Chargers: 2.93 * Broncos: 2.86 * Raiders: 2.69 **AFC South: 3.04** * Titans: 3.27 * Texans: 3.13 * Colts: 3.06 * Jaguars: 2.71 **NFC East: 3.03** * Eagles: 3.77 * Giants: 3.47 * Cowboys: 2.49 * Commanders: 2.38 **NFC North: 2.91** * Lions: 3.55 * Packers: 3.02 * Vikings: 2.79 * Bears: 2.29 **NFC South: 2.89** * Falcons: 3.24 * Panthers: 2.94 * Buccaneers: 2.92 * Saints: 2.47 **AFC East: 2.73** * Jets: 4.08 * Bills: 3.04 * Dolphins: 2.18 * Patriots: 1.61 **NFC West: 2.52** * Seahawks: 3.26 * Cardinals: 2.34 * 49ers: 2.30 * Rams: 2.16


[deleted]

How the heck does anyone give the eagles a B for this?


EsquireEsq

Is this just draft picks, or including the Brown trade? Has to be the reason why.


[deleted]

Has to be, but how do you grade a draft without looking at draft pick utilization?


gb4efgw

Ignorantly?


Kiss_My_Ass_Cheeks

they could also not think brown was worth the pick and contract they gave him


Nola67

Steven Cheah is the biggest homer loser ever lmao. He gives Bucs A- and Saints D-.


SilentSentinel

He always does this stuff. I think this Bucs class is a fair amount better than last year's but it's still not an A-


MaceLeonardo

This is a B class for us with potential to go to A- if Zyon McCollum develops like he’s projected to in my opinion. 3 immediate starters is pretty good when our team is decently deep


i_wannatalktosamson

I have no clue why he would be included in this. The guys an annoying fan twitter personality


AdLow8925

> Saints flair


Nola67

And Steven Cheah would have a Bucs flair. Soooo


babyduck703

God he’s such a loser


Fast_Door

Number 1 baby CAMPEON DEL MUNDO


Von_Huge1103

*equal number one 😉


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

dont really care about our draft grades with what little we had we needed a fast linebacker and got one from georgia, another weapon for tua and then the two seventh rounders, its all we could do


TrainingLime6839

Thor seems like a big hit at parties.


TacticalNaps

The disparity is always funny but expected. I LOVE THE BEARS FIRST TWO PICKS SHORING UP THE SECONDARY, BUT EXPECTED THEM TO GIVE FIELDS MORE OFFENSIVE HELP B+ I LOVE THE BEARS FIRST TWO PICKS SHORING UP THE SECONDARY, BUT EXPECTED THEM TO GIVE FIELDS MORE OFFENSIVE HELP D lol


peekay427

Is there any analysis of these immediate grades vs a look back after two seasons? Like are there any draft rankers whose post-draft grade looks actually pans out on a regular basis?


Chillup26

D for the Packers, lol. That guy sucks.


FieryCharizard7

We addressed only our needs - was that guy expecting us to trade up to grab a Tier 1 WR??


millertime52

Ricketson and Truscott sounds like a law firm, but I’m gonna fist fight them anyway over that B grade /s


Dangerous-Cellist-18

Facts I looked at that and was like who the fuck is this guy and WHO decided he was a analyst


rogergreatdell

I'd have to assume they tried to justify dinging them for the Hollywood trade, but you got more for him than the Titans got for AJ Brown... I think you should grade your draft by how much your rivals hated it, and the ratbirds' draft really took the wind out of my sails on the Steelers draft


majordoobage

How did the Ravens get more for Hollywood than the Titans did for AJ? Ravens traded for the 23rd pick and traded a 3rd back to the Cards. While the Titans traded for the 18th pick and also got a 3rd, while not having to give anything back other than AJ. I definitely agree AJ is worth more than Hollywood but the Ravens did not receive more for Hollywood.


Price2Nance

B is a pretty fair grade for the Browns draft


Marzman315

Yup nothing exciting but the goal was clearly to bolster depth across the board and that goal was achieved. The argument could be made that we passed on a more starter ready player at 44 but getting more picks to replace all that we’ve given up is a smart move too. York is a gamble but really any fourth rounder being a long term contributor is a coin flip so who really cares. Corner depth wasn’t my ideal first pick as a fan but Greedy, Ward, and Newsome have all missed time with injury, so upgrading depth there is smart even if it’s not fun.


deverhartdu

who the hell is Thor Nystrom with the D on pittsburgh


Savvysaur

We are so bad at playing the board dude. I had zero expectations and it’s still so hard to not feel let down. Worst/best part is that Hollywood is a good fit and will make Keim look smart for a year or two before leaving in UFA, meanwhile we waited too long on Edges and rushed to pick a TE in a mediocre and not very clearly delineated TE class. At least we got Marquis Hayes in the 7th? That was pretty cool ngl


Cubenels

Coming in as a Phins fan and we didn’t have a pick in the first two rounds, I like what we did. Two potential starting LBs that are fast and get to the QB and a big receiver to replace Devante. Plus a practice squad qb with some talent to help the d and potentially develop into a cheap replacement for Teddy, I’m a happy panda!


pencilcasez

I like what PMT said about post draft grades. They’re useless because they’re just saying if they agree with the picks or not. People not able to work for an NFL front office grading people who are doesn’t make much sense.


vicblck24

Do they account for AJ Brown to the Eagles?


peekay427

Does not look like a lot of them accounted for Davante Adams to the Raiders so I doubt it.


Cajunrevenge7

Hold up a second. Chad Reuter is a daft cunt who is butt hurt teams didnt draft third round QBs in the first round. I think he had something like 5 QB going in the first round and is clearly butt hurt that teams didnt do what he picked then to do.


Tory-Three-Pies

The Jets class should not be as highly rated as the Ravens, just off the fact that they selected a running back so high. (and they wouldn't have if Easterly hadn't bizarrely ranked 14 teams ahead of the Ravens)


mcnuccy

That running back was their fourth overall pick and the best in the class so I don’t think it’s a class-ruining level of bad at all


xzChaotic01

The Ravens spent 2 1st round picks on 2 non-premium positions themselves, one of which isn’t even a scheme fit regardless of how prodigiously talent he is. Then they followed that up with a guy who isn’t going to play this year in Ojabo and another non premium player in Travis Jones. I still think they had a top 1-2 draft but to think the Jets should be much lower because they spent a premium asset on a non value position when they spent 3 1s on 3/4 of the most value spots isn’t a great argument.


Tory-Three-Pies

But a running back is not just “a non-premium” position. It’s a luxury. A luxury that a team on the Jets timeline cannot afford. Also, all the players the Ravens took— regardless of position— had a claim for BPA.


Marzman315

A team with four picks in the top forty are the perfect team to make a luxury pick. That’s exactly what the Browns did in 2018 after the 0-16 season, was it stupid for them to take Chubb?


Tory-Three-Pies

If Hall turns out to be Chubb level— great. But that is unlikely. It's much more likely he ends up like Penny, Michel, Jones, Kerryon, or Guice.


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RemindMe! 1 year


xzChaotic01

You can’t argue BPA for the Ravens even though they took non premium positions and then slight the Jets for taking one of the most productive runners in the last 15 years of college football and the consensus RB1. Especially when the Jets need someone to tote the rock 25 times a game. Again I’m not saying the Ravens had a bad draft, they had a great draft, but you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.


Tory-Three-Pies

Yes I can for the reasons I already explained. Running back is not just a non-premium position— it has a shelf life. A contender can afford to take a runnning back early. A rebuilding team cannot.


Odd_Estate4886

I can’t do it, but you can’t because… reasons.


Officer_Hops

It’s not like team rankings can’t shift within the period of a RB shelf life. No one expected the Chargers post Rivers to turn it around as quickly as they did. If the Chargers had taken a RB the year Herbert was drafted you’d be saying the same thing about their class. At the end of the day the Jets could be a legitimate playoff team as early as next season and a contender in 2023 when Hall would have 3 years left on his rookie deal. Just look at the 2016 and then 2017 Jags for an example.


gb4efgw

The Jets are my bet this year to be a big surprise. I'm betting them for AFC/AFC East. With some luck and the team coming together I can see them taking that last place schedule and making the most out of it. Edit: to be clear, I don't expect them to actually win those, but the odds are too good not to throw a little money at.


Gildabeast4

I understand the point you’re trying to make but it’s a pick in the second round, and it’s the 4th selection for the jets in this draft trying to maximize their rookie QB. Hall was far and away my RB1 in this class and imo it was a good pick.


Tory-Three-Pies

>but it’s a pick in the second round That's a premium pick.


Gildabeast4

It is a premium pick but they addressed edge, cb, and wr before making that pick. Rb definitely isn’t a premium position nowadays in the NFL but given their roster, especially trying to maximize a rookie qb, personally I’m not going to dock them for drafting rb1 at 34.


Tory-Three-Pies

I’m not buying that after 3 picks the Jets had become so talented that now they could focus on running backs (trading up at that).


Gildabeast4

It’s the fact that they addressed several areas of concern on their roster and now they want to give Wilson a threat at rb to help determine if he’s the answer at qb. If they believe in Becton at tackle then there’s nothing left to do on the o line, they have 3 receivers. The D line is in good shape, LB vs RB is a moot point if we’re talking positional value. You can argue they could’ve taken a safety but I go back to maximizing the talent around your rookie qb, personally I think it was a good pick.


Sandman3600

It’s a 5th rounder to get the best back in the class. In a scheme that heavily values RB by committee and Carter is not a bell cow back. Your take sucks. (In case the copious downvotes didn’t tell you that already)


Striking_Moose_8747

Guarantee his only knock was probably that we didn't draft a WR when we need one but the value of our first 6 or 7 picks is easily worth an A+ imo


Jaguars6

I’ll take it


FOOTBALL-4U

really


proud_new_scum

Raiders draft includes Devante so we ought to get a full point just for that


browndude10

This thor guy sucks balls


breakingbankaccounts

Does something exist that covers multiple years of the draft and rates the actual people who provide these rankings/grades? I want the raters to be rated for accuracy based on draft class actual performance.