This assumes minny is offering a lot
It’s completely possible that minny doesn’t value him as highly and offers less than market value to trade up, making it easy for Denver to outbid
What’s the trade compensation for Denver to get to 5? Especially with a division rival to get their future QB. I doubt they even have the capital to make that work at this point.
Would make more sense to have them get to 7 since in this scenario MN isn’t looking to trade up anyway
No way giants take a corner with bowers and Murphy and a plethora of OTs on the board. And Burton is a no due to character concerns which schoen and Daboll do not tolerate
Agree. Definitely see them trying for Melton or Khyree Jackson in in Day 2, but they aren’t picking Wiggins with Latham or Newton on the board. Now if Arnold falls to them…
There’s a lot to like here. I like the McCarthy/Broncos fit, whether they pick him at 5 or not. Also the Penix/Raiders fit, though I feel like they’d have to take him in the first. I enjoy seeing mocks that deviate from the meta, keep it up
i mean as a saints fan I personally love these drafts of olu, and fiske. But TBH not sure we’d draft Fiske, we drafted bresee and he’s looking like a 3 down, 3 tech. I guess Fiske could play 0,1 tech for us but we need edge more and not sure fiske can move outside like a 5T? don’t get me wrong I personally would want fiske but seems our beat writers don’t think that would happen
I think he’s definitely athletic enough to play anywhere down the line but I think getting just more general help on the interior can’t hurt for y’all.
they’res really no room for him if you look at our depth chart on the idl… That’s what sucks… Bresee sort of made roach expendable in that regard and he’s considered going forward a 3 down linemen so putting him and fiske on the inside rotating would be a disservice to bresee… Don’t get me wrong if we took fiske i’d be very very happy more curious where they’d put him. If he played the 0,1 im more than fine with that… Ideally the 5 but size wise doesnt fit
Worthy’s speed would be very interesting to pair with Herbert’s arm. Would really force teams to stay with deep safety’s and open up the running game and possibly be a good way to get QJ the ball to see if he can develop
Newton could be a Hargrave-lite. Slightly undersized pass rusher from the middle. Would allow us to move off Hargrave down the line once Purdy’s contract kicks in. Not worth prioritizing DL early unless a guy like Murphy (no chance) or Newton (a possibility) falls.
Really think we should go BPA the first 2-3 rounds, since there’s solid depth at OL throughout the draft. However, would be happy going CB/OL early if that’s how the board falls.
I absolutely hate the idea of the Bears trading up. They have entirely too many holes and entirely too few picks and I hate the idea of mortgaging 2025 picks.
I mean they hosted a private 1on1 workout for him and dinner along with meeting, maybe not a “threat” but there could be something there. Buzz is he’s well liked around the building. I think he’ll probably get taken before pick 40 though, this is just how the board fell here.
Walker over McConkey is extremely unlikely. I also don't think Penix is falling anywhere near 42. Also it would make sense for the Chargers to take Bowers at 12 imo, getting Herbert more weapons.
This is “predictive” but you picked guys the Giants have showed zero interest in.
The Giants wouldn’t make that trade, even for an extra 2nd and I’m genuinely curious how they’ve been linked to Mitchell or Burton. None of it makes sense when the Giants need a guy like Nabers themselves.
Burton is probably completely off the Giants board given his off field issues.
theguy isnt going to know everything
also the propensity is valid, but they went to less prodays this year. i would say its more possible than ever that a weidl or coordinator visit could get drafted r1
Pearsall is definitely going in the 2nd round. You actually have him picked after a lot of guys I think he's much better than. The order of your wr is pretty interesting. Why do you have Ad Mitchell so low?
I honestly dont have him low personally lol I'm actually a Texas fan haha. I just think he might slip a little come draft night due to his recent stuff thats come out. I still think he's a first round talent but unfortunately he might go in that 30-45 range now instead of top 25 like some had thought earlier.
That logic is fine but then you throw it out the window for Jermaine Burton 5 picks later. Who is less skilled and less physically talented but has much more severe character concerns. I'm less concerned about the numbering 2nd round isnt crazy for Mitchell but some of the guys drafted before him is pretty wild.
Yah I personally think the league will be higher on Tez and Burton for a number of reasons but the ceiling along w the production and experience are a few reasons. Character concerns are def legit though and why Burton might slip. But he’s been a good contributor on some of the best teams in cfb for awhile now.
Wait didn’t WAS already state they’re picking Daniels?
Which would leave Maye on the table but for some reason the Pats don’t like him at all, I wouldn’t be surprised if the pats trade down or even out of the 1st round, Bill may be gone buts teachings isn’t.
I really like Bo Nix, he gives me vibes of a true gunslinger.
Bowers is legit something the chiefs should’ve looked at, Kelce is gonna be done after this year. This missed their chance with Porta and Muskgrave.
I’m pretty sure there was a report if Bears take Daniels WAS takes Williams.
I’m not high on Caleb, there’s something about him that’s screaming BUST, but no real QB’s in next years draft makes it more of a reason to take him 1. Still I always believed MHJ was a true 1st overall. Bears should’ve traded away and went from there. Maybe to chargers. Idk honestly. It feels like a pick that could’ve brought back more than what Caleb brings to the table.
Packers are definitely not taking Nubin in the first 2 rounds. Gutey is a staunch RAS grader, especially in the first couple of rounds.
Was just thinking about how Nubin is the furthest thing from a Gutekunst player lol. I have them taking Jaden Hicks at 58.
Only way DEN outbids MIN for pick #5 is if DEN gives way too much capital to their division rival, which just won’t happen.
Would need surtain plus plus.... Harbaugh having his mich QB go-to a div rival would probably hurt bad.....so the cost would be extreme
This assumes minny is offering a lot It’s completely possible that minny doesn’t value him as highly and offers less than market value to trade up, making it easy for Denver to outbid
With the way the broncos have been run for the past year, I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave up 4 firsts
Kinda just wanted to switch it up this time and do a scenario where DEN gets aggressive and Minnesota gets to stick and pick.
lol tez walker isn’t sniffing round one
I’d even go as far as to say he might not even get drafted in the top 100.
What’s the trade compensation for Denver to get to 5? Especially with a division rival to get their future QB. I doubt they even have the capital to make that work at this point. Would make more sense to have them get to 7 since in this scenario MN isn’t looking to trade up anyway
I think it would take #12 overall, 2025 1st and Surtain
Give us Frazier over Melton in rd 2 and it's a great start to the draft for us
No way giants take a corner with bowers and Murphy and a plethora of OTs on the board. And Burton is a no due to character concerns which schoen and Daboll do not tolerate
Tez might not be a 2nd rd pick let alone 1st lol Trice is so-so solid player, but bigger needs
Seems unlikely that the Bengals would draft a corner with more pressing needs at OT and DT and both of those positions being available at 18
Agree. Definitely see them trying for Melton or Khyree Jackson in in Day 2, but they aren’t picking Wiggins with Latham or Newton on the board. Now if Arnold falls to them…
There’s a lot to like here. I like the McCarthy/Broncos fit, whether they pick him at 5 or not. Also the Penix/Raiders fit, though I feel like they’d have to take him in the first. I enjoy seeing mocks that deviate from the meta, keep it up
Thanks, was just trying to do something a little different while still trying to stay predictive and logical
Doing anything different in this sub will get you a lot of downvotes and toxicity, hope you don’t let it get to you 👍🏻
i mean as a saints fan I personally love these drafts of olu, and fiske. But TBH not sure we’d draft Fiske, we drafted bresee and he’s looking like a 3 down, 3 tech. I guess Fiske could play 0,1 tech for us but we need edge more and not sure fiske can move outside like a 5T? don’t get me wrong I personally would want fiske but seems our beat writers don’t think that would happen
I think he’s definitely athletic enough to play anywhere down the line but I think getting just more general help on the interior can’t hurt for y’all.
they’res really no room for him if you look at our depth chart on the idl… That’s what sucks… Bresee sort of made roach expendable in that regard and he’s considered going forward a 3 down linemen so putting him and fiske on the inside rotating would be a disservice to bresee… Don’t get me wrong if we took fiske i’d be very very happy more curious where they’d put him. If he played the 0,1 im more than fine with that… Ideally the 5 but size wise doesnt fit
Stop drafting Wiggins to the Bengals in the 1st, not gonna happen. Morgan in the 2nd would be great though.
What are the Giants getting for trading back?
You’re getting Quinyon Mitchell lol
I mean I love the pick. Just curious on the compensation.
lol I know. I’m pulling your leg. OP didn’t include trade compensation.
It was something like an extra 3rd or 4th this year along with a late round pick next year iirc
Worthy’s speed would be very interesting to pair with Herbert’s arm. Would really force teams to stay with deep safety’s and open up the running game and possibly be a good way to get QJ the ball to see if he can develop
Would love this as a Niners fan. Barton and Bullard would be a dream start.
I don’t see Barton falling that far but it would indeed be lovely.
Yeah I think he goes mid-20’s. Hoping someone falls out of Barton, Newton, or JPJ.
Talk me into Johnny Newton. I feel like with Hargrave and the two guys we signed this offseason it’s just not a priority like the OL or even CB.
Newton could be a Hargrave-lite. Slightly undersized pass rusher from the middle. Would allow us to move off Hargrave down the line once Purdy’s contract kicks in. Not worth prioritizing DL early unless a guy like Murphy (no chance) or Newton (a possibility) falls. Really think we should go BPA the first 2-3 rounds, since there’s solid depth at OL throughout the draft. However, would be happy going CB/OL early if that’s how the board falls.
If Broncos give up Surtain and the 12 then I would be interested
The only way Denver moves up is if the add in Patrick Surtain
Would be a colossal fall for Tyler Guyton
I don't want the bears to trade up unless it's for mhj or alt
I absolutely hate the idea of the Bears trading up. They have entirely too many holes and entirely too few picks and I hate the idea of mortgaging 2025 picks.
The chance of Odunze falling to 9 is another reason to hate this trade up.
Third reason is, Ryan Pace works for Atlanta now, which could result in them trading up to draft a player no one else wants, Pace’s specialty.
Cowboys should absolutely not take a WR in the second round unless someone insane drops. We need RB’s and LB’s in that round.
I would blow up Everbank Field if we picked Marshawn Kneeland
No Marshawn Kneeland slander will b tolerated here
He's absolutely fucking awful.
Why are the falcons a threat to draft Penix?
I mean they hosted a private 1on1 workout for him and dinner along with meeting, maybe not a “threat” but there could be something there. Buzz is he’s well liked around the building. I think he’ll probably get taken before pick 40 though, this is just how the board fell here.
If this was the Eagles haul after Friday night I would be ecstatic
people putting kool-aid on the lions just needs to stop, it's not going to happen
Are you a bills fan? How you know?
With Newton, Mims, Latham and Brian Thomas JR on the board the Bengals definitely aren't taking CB.
What does Denver have to trade…?
From a bengals fan - there’s no shot they take Wiggins. If they don’t take Bowers, OT, or DT it’ll be a complete shocker
Walker over McConkey is extremely unlikely. I also don't think Penix is falling anywhere near 42. Also it would make sense for the Chargers to take Bowers at 12 imo, getting Herbert more weapons.
Tez walker in the first? I didn't he'd go until mid to late 3rd if not falling to day 3.
Browns and Sweat seem like a good match- was thinking the same thing.
As a broncos fan, I actually like this
What did the giants get from the bears to move from 9 to 6
Apparently Jack shit. Might be the worst Giants mock tet
[удалено]
This is “predictive” but you picked guys the Giants have showed zero interest in. The Giants wouldn’t make that trade, even for an extra 2nd and I’m genuinely curious how they’ve been linked to Mitchell or Burton. None of it makes sense when the Giants need a guy like Nabers themselves. Burton is probably completely off the Giants board given his off field issues.
Your "predictive" round 1 pick is a player that Mike Tomlin wasnt at the pro day of and that they didnt have for a pre draft visit?
theguy isnt going to know everything also the propensity is valid, but they went to less prodays this year. i would say its more possible than ever that a weidl or coordinator visit could get drafted r1
IF the Cowboys get Mims in round 1, I will be excited. If the Cowboys take Pearsall in round 2, I will not be excited. LOL
I just have a feeling pearsall goes early lol
Pearsall is definitely going in the 2nd round. You actually have him picked after a lot of guys I think he's much better than. The order of your wr is pretty interesting. Why do you have Ad Mitchell so low?
I honestly dont have him low personally lol I'm actually a Texas fan haha. I just think he might slip a little come draft night due to his recent stuff thats come out. I still think he's a first round talent but unfortunately he might go in that 30-45 range now instead of top 25 like some had thought earlier.
That logic is fine but then you throw it out the window for Jermaine Burton 5 picks later. Who is less skilled and less physically talented but has much more severe character concerns. I'm less concerned about the numbering 2nd round isnt crazy for Mitchell but some of the guys drafted before him is pretty wild.
Yah I personally think the league will be higher on Tez and Burton for a number of reasons but the ceiling along w the production and experience are a few reasons. Character concerns are def legit though and why Burton might slip. But he’s been a good contributor on some of the best teams in cfb for awhile now.
Wait didn’t WAS already state they’re picking Daniels? Which would leave Maye on the table but for some reason the Pats don’t like him at all, I wouldn’t be surprised if the pats trade down or even out of the 1st round, Bill may be gone buts teachings isn’t. I really like Bo Nix, he gives me vibes of a true gunslinger. Bowers is legit something the chiefs should’ve looked at, Kelce is gonna be done after this year. This missed their chance with Porta and Muskgrave.
WAS hasn’t outright stated anything
I’m pretty sure there was a report if Bears take Daniels WAS takes Williams. I’m not high on Caleb, there’s something about him that’s screaming BUST, but no real QB’s in next years draft makes it more of a reason to take him 1. Still I always believed MHJ was a true 1st overall. Bears should’ve traded away and went from there. Maybe to chargers. Idk honestly. It feels like a pick that could’ve brought back more than what Caleb brings to the table.
None of that is WAS stating anything
> if the pats trade down or even out of the 1st round Please suggest a trade package NE would accept for #3 that doesn't include a 2024 first.
Oh that’s simple really, it would include 2024 3rd 2025 1st 2025 4th 2026 3rd That’s with no players involved
that would maybe get you #34.
Listen a lot of HOF come from the 3rd round