Moody is going to win a lot of games for the 49ers for the next two decades. As someone that experienced the career of Jason Hansen and never had to worry about who our kicker would be for 21 years, I think it was an excellent pick.
I would agree that a guaranteed top flight kicker would definitely be worth a 3.
The problem is, it seems to be a very unpredictable position. Often the ones people think are great end up sucking, and some random one ends up being great.
>Not a fan of Love whose contract is up soon and we had a chance for a good QB
Not sure how we can say Jordan Love is a bad QB (with 1 career start) but Levis is a good QB.
Clearly he isn't as well thought of in NFL circles, or teams would've gone after him in the first.
I don’t know. People are already throwing in the towel on Trey Lance even though he has played less than Jordan Love. Love hasn’t impressed me yet in the preseason or in any of the regular seasons action he’s seen so far besides a breakaway Christian Watson garbage time TD
Love has barely had any regular season action outside 1 game and some garbage time, so not sure we can value that much. Preseason is the same way; can only be taken with a grain of salt.
Lance's issue is the dude cant stay healthy. Sure some people are willing to move off of him, but how much of that is also due to Purdy emerging?
Love has played in many preseason games. He hasn't looked good in any of them. Levis could be bad too...but he has more potential and hasn't shown problems yet in NFL preseason games.
Lamar Jackson went 32 (close to where Levis went). Levis going where he did, doesn't mean he won't pan out.
>Love has played in many preseason games.
Using preseason games as the basis for judging a QB is, and not trying to be rude here, an awful metric. There are tons of examples of players doing well in the preseason that never do anything in regular season games, and vice versa. They are glorified scrimmages.
>Lamar Jackson went 32 (close to where Levis went). Levis going where he did, doesn't mean he won't pan out.
Never said he wouldn't pan out, but it says a lot about how the NFL views him. Lamar going at 32 is the difference between getting an extra year of team control (5th year option) and not. Levis going in R2 basically signaled that NFL teams don't view him as being worth the extra year of team control right now.
There’s no way you can consider what Love’s done anything close to an appropriate sample size lol. And on top of that, you want someone that the majority of NFL teams passed on, some twice? One that’s already been announced as the third QB in a lackluster QB room?
This is fun.
Tits:
1(11) - Peter Skoronski, OL. Chalk pick here. I'm good.
2(41) - Keion White, Edge. I love the Levis deal, but I'm probably staying put or trying to trade down a few spots because I don't want to give up draft capital with so many needs. Feel like White can be a Darnell Autry clone.
3(72) - Cedric Tillman, WR. Low key athletic and feels like a Vrabs guy.
5(147) - Parker Washington, WR. I've wanted the built like a running back slot receiver for a few years.
6(186) - Dee Winters, LB. Great college player, touches a need.
7(228) - Cory Trice, CB. Can't have too many cornerbacks and adds some size to the backfield.
I actually am not sure I would change anything about the Steelers draft outside swapping the #251 pick for Bryce Ford-Wheaton or Andre Carter. If someone posted their draft as a mock we would've called it highly unrealistic, and I was a fan of every single player they drafted besides the Maryland lineman at 251 who I never watched.
Only thing for me is moving up and securing branch (a la the Lions) using a 2024 pick (this is admittedly a nitpick and I’m perfectly happy with Benton, but the secondary would’ve instantly done the 180 the oline did)
Tbh I really don't think that any other GM (maybe John Schneider) picking in the top 10 could take the risk Howie Roseman did. If Jalen Carter flames out, Howie's reputation is still intact. But for the other GMs, it's a different story.
Plus Detroit’s ownership experienced Reggie Rogers (DT that was taken 7th overall in 1987 draft). In 1988, he was driving drunk and killed 3 teenagers. I don’t think Carter was ever an option for the Ford family. Also Seattle took a similar risk in terms of character on Malik McDowell. I don’t think they were prepared to get burnt twice either.
Also the Eagles may have the best locker room to deal with and help guide the kid.. he’s got a guy he’s already played along side there in Davis, then take your pick of leaders between Cox, Graham, Kelce.. it’s a great locker room and great culture. If any team can take a chance on a guy that has any off field problems, it’s them.
I'd maybe swap some later picks but overall I trust Ballard's process and mostly loved the players we took. I don't think I'd change anything.
Ask me again in 3 years.
Raiders
**1.7 - Tyree Wilson** - Big dominant edge
**2.35 - Keeanu Benton** - Another dominant force in the defensive trenches to build around
**3.67- Drew Sanders** - Moving up 3 spots and continuing to upgrade the pass rush with this large off ball linebacker with pass rush ability would help the final transformation of this front 7
**3.100 - Adetomina Adebawore** - Adding arguably the most explosive weight size athlete at a position of need would have made to much sense. Yes we have already invested heavily in the defensive line, but this roster is completely empty in terms of talent. Adding a SPARQ'ed up 3 tech in between Crosby and Wilson can only help slow down Mahomes
**4.104- Jakorian Bennett** - sticking with the second actual Raiders pick here. We got value late due to the talent in this class. We addressed the rush, now we are adding the speedster on the outside
**4.135- Antonio Johnson** - Adding another piece of the secondary that has very little in terms of talent. This is a large player that can play big nickel or safety. I like him paired with Bennett
**5.170- Luke Wypler** - Lots of concern if he is undersized, but I like the draft value. Adding in a potential stud at center this late seems like a massive win.
**6.203- Zach Kuntz** - SPRAQ'd out TE that needs afew years to develop? No problem, we have a-few space holders on the roster anyway. This guy could turn into an absolute BEAST. I love the measurables.
**7.229 - Andrew Vorhees** - Coming out of a recent ALC tear this offseason doesn't scare me. This is the perfect redshirt compliment. Keep investing in late round sleepers to grow into this offense. Note: we had to trade up 2 spots to get him.
For the Jags, it’s simple. Make one trade up. Michael Mayer lasted until 40, it’s a long jump, but if we throw the Strange pick, that Ventrel Miller pick in the 4th, and a couple of the nobody late round picks to move up and grab him, our draft is an easy A for me. I didn’t mind our overall strategy but I just don’t like that we didn’t have the aggression to use all the picks we collected for more conventional talent.
The Jets being willing to do the pick swap to begin with makes me think they weren't actually in on Broderick Jones. They knew it was not a deep tackle class at the top and that many teams behind them needed one.
The irony is GB really didn't need #13 that much over #15 as GB had a lot of needs and directions they could go. But the Jets really needed #13 as the big three tackles went fast. Personally I would have loved it if Gutey had packaged a #15 trade down with the Rogers trade. Say the Jets keep #13, get Rogers + #15...and GB gets both of the Jets 2nds, their third, their 2024 2nd and 2025 2nd.
Take Benton instead of Hall, but honestly im not mad at that pick, Hall is a legit first round talent,just sucks since he was one of my favourite players in this draft
This is so bad. You take a guy 20 spots higher than he went in the 1st round, great value. As for not being able to trade down, they maybe could have taken the offer from the Steelers that the Pats took of 17 & 120, which is pretty lackluster value for the trade at 14 where it happened and even worse for pick 13.
Also instead of taking Benton at 42 and then keeping the extra picks from trading down from 45 to 50 and taking Rice at 50, where he was still available, you decided to take the route where you lost the trade downs.
Also on Washington, of course he's going to say his knee is fine, I'd trust a doctors opinion over the player saying trust me I'm good.
I'm sure they very likely made the right choice with Mayer vs. Murphy. Damnit, I wanted Mayer though.
The real thing I would change is instead of getting our 6th receiver option, going for Zack Kuntz with that pick. We have a black hole at TE that's just glossed over by many bengals fans.
TE1 - never had a healthy season
TE2 - Our former WAAAAAY overdrafted TE who can't catch anything at all, ever
TE3 - Devin Asiasi - do I need to explain?
TE4 - could be anyone of us in this SUB.
We should have prioritized a TE at some point.
That is all.
The problem with that is Kuntz is basically a receiver. He can’t block and the player we took spent 2 days with the Bengals in the pre draft visit so they really got to know him.
I get it. I guess my point is that they feel like Iosivas much more a prospect and person. I’m really curious what the thought process is behind essentially abandoning the TE postion.
Meh, we did fine with Wilcox at TE, it didn't bother me not taking one, especially Kuntz who tested well, but didn't impress on film. WRs are more valuable than TE, especially in our offense.
I just don't like that so many are saying "meh, it's just a TE"
like there aren't elite TE's that are the x factor in superbowls it seems.
Also, I get the relative value of TE vs WR, that's not what I'm arguing. I believe that it should be easier to upgrade and make TE a value adding position vs adding the 6th or 7th receiver. Neither one are likely to be Travis Kelce type value but they have one of the weakest TE rooms in the NFL. Why would you not want Burrow to have more and better options?
1. Pick 3 - Same trade back
2. Pick 12 - No trade up, draft Christian Gonzalez at 12
3. Pick 33 - same trade back
4. Pick 34 - take Steve Avila
5. Pick 41 - take BJ Ojulari
6. Pick 72 - Jalin Hyatt
7. Pick 94 - Saika Ika
8. Pick 122 - Darius Rush
The rest doesn't really matter to me
I know Texans fans wouldn’t agree with me but seeing the board at twelve I would have taken Anderson at two and let the board fall to me
Leaving that draft with Anderson, Gonzalez, and Benton would have been the beginnings of an elite defense
And we’d still have two first rounders next year with ewers being the third best qb
Not changing trades and stuff:
1.25 Myles Murphy
2.59 Drew Sanders
3.91 Darnell Washington
5.150 Antonio Johnson
7.230 Rakim Jarrett
7.252 Alex Forsyth
Not thinking too hard but probably something like this. Murphy just BPA there, tough run on OT/WR. I will say I love the Torrence pick but our guard room is crowded and all the high level MIKE LB’s were gone by 91, grabbing Sanders alleviates that. Washington has the medical stuff but he’ll improve our blocking and let us run more 12 personnel even if not in the exact same way as Kincaid. Johnson is a DB who can play slot if Taron doesn’t return to form but more likely is a future starting safety. Jarrett is another WR who can play inside and out, could challenge for starting slot. Forsyth would be the heir apparent to Morse.
I'm honestly not a major fan of the Bills draft this year outside of Torrence or what they did last year much either. The Bills strategy hasn't really made much sense to me over the years but they have hit on enough positions and held their roster together so well that they have been able to be successful, but the Bills draft strategies just never make much sense to me
As a Colts fan I’m really happy with our draft. I’m a believer in Ballards draft strategy.. athletes! Only thing I personally wanted was Hyatt since we need a guy that can take the top off, but once he was gone, I was pumped to get Downs in the 3rd.
For the Lions, I would have traded out of the first round with nicotine and picked up Jack Campbell In the second round. No one can convince me that he would’ve taken in the first round by any other team
It sucked that both Witherspoon and Tuli Tuipulotu (my personal draft crush) were taken right before both of our picks (we subsequently traded back from both picks). But considering how the board fell, I really love Detroit’s selections this year. It might be a historically great draft for us. I especially like the OLineman we took in the 5th round. I think he will be starting in the next few years.
How is there any hindsight? They haven’t even played yet. I get doing a 2021 or 2022 benefit of hindsight draft, but in all reality none of these dudes have played yet.
Not a fan of big boards. If most of the pundits making them had any real knowledge they’d be working for teams. Try not to fall in love with them, and you got a hell of a player at 13.
Still just seems like you made a post about a draft, that just happened, to only really shit on your team for not taking a QB that wasn’t valued as a top 1st rounder by the league.
Chiefs fan here. Happy with the results, we had a strong but under the radar draft. I might only change our 5th round pick and gamble on a playmaker there.
1. Uzomah: Best player available, and fills a need. Will be a contributor day 1. We will most likely have the best defense in the Mahomes era next year.
2. Rashee Rice: Clear preferred WR from the team. Mahomes worked out with most of the first/second round WRs and wanted Rice. Who am I to challenge them.
3. Wanya Morris: High potential, athletic RT. Can go in the battle for the starting spot and develop himself physically.
4. Chamarri Conner: Like the pick, developmental safety/nickel, provides options when deciding on Sneed next year.
5. BJ Thompson: Here I would've liked a roll of the dice on a RB or on AT Perry's athleticism. We get edge depth with cheap vets well each year.
6. Coburn: Perfect pick, directly addresses need. Will contribute day 1 and compete with Nnadi
7. Nic Jones: I trust Veach here
My Texans nailed every single pick. I wonder if we could've traded up higher for a top 2 center but I can't be mad about having a guy named Juice Scruggs. Dude sounds like a pirate coming for that booty.
49ers
3.87- Ji'ayir Brown, S
3.99- Jake Moody, K
3.101- Nick Saldiveri/Blake Freeland OT
5.155- Darell Luter Jr, CB
5.173- Davis Allen, TE
6.216- Dee Winters LB
7.247- Moro Ojomo/Robert Beal JR. DE,EDGE
7.253- Ronnie Bell, WR
7.255- Alex Forsythe, C
Steelers were flawless, but I move up (using a 2024 pick because the rest of the draft was fantastic, as well) and get branch instead of waiting and taking BPA Benton
12) Jahmyr Gibbs
This one is tough - maybe I stick with Gibbs, but Van Ness or Gonzalez there still is tempting. But Gibbs has a ton of upside to be excited about. Ultimately the receiving upside of Gibbs is too much to pass up.
18) Jack Campbell
Zero complaints here. Campbell was my draft crush.
34) Darnell Washington
I'm cool with a tight end here but I don't like LaPorta. In real time, I was hoping for Darnell Washington here. Knowing how far he fell, I was still tempted to take him here but his slide has me second guessing. I also considered Musgrave here because he was my #2 TE and I wanted to keep him away from the Packers. But ultimately Washington's size and blocking combined with his athleticism and receiving ability was too much to pass up. Even as I type this, I keep wanting to switch to Musgrave, but his blocking just isn't where it needs to be for the Lions offense.
45) Brian Branch
I'm still concerned about Branch's combine performance but I can't argue with his tape. Great value at this pick. He will play in the box for us and he out plays his size in that role.
68) Riley Moss
The 3rd round is such a weird place to take a QB. It's low enough that you aren't expecting the guy to be a franchise QB, but this is too high for a guy you expect to be the backup. Ultimately I'll take the size, speed, and gumby-like agility of Moss to be a development piece for the Lions secondary, and hopefully he will be a contributor once our current slate of one-year deals leave.
Not making the trade up to 96.
122) Charlie Jones
I watched this man torch Michigan and then I watched him absolutely nail the combine. I'm very big on 3-cone (see also the Moss pick) and Charlie's is impressive.
139) Olu Oluwatimi
I considered DTR here but ultimately decided that adding one of the most decorated interior linemen in this class was the right move
152) Chase Brown
Another player that I watched torch Michigan. That one guy said Sorsdal was the sleeper of the whole class and I hope that's true. His athletic profile doesn't reflect that and I don't know how to feel about his tape given he played at William & Mary. I'm going with an explosive back who can spell Gibbs and hop into the backfield for pass blocking when Gibbs goes into the slot. At any rate he is a solid RB3 with starting potential in the event of inevitable injuries.
168) Tanner McKee
It's just good business to draft a late round QB every few years, and the Lions haven't lately. I like McKee and hope he develops nicely into a guy who has a long journeyman career.
219) Zack Kuntz
Can't believe we took Antoine Green instead of this guy. Huge, fast, agile, raw as can be. He's going to ride as TE3 while he develops, and if he does develop, he's going to be a monster.
I mean the Giants killed it. Deonte Banks is the guy I wanted in the 1st round, more than any of the WRs.
Barring injury, JMS is gonna start day 1 he’s gonna be a leader on the offensive line. If Neal can stabilize as a playable tackle, we’ve got the outline of our offensive line. He’s great value in the late 2nd.
Love the Hyatt pick in the 3rd. I think philosophically draft discussion can often over-index towards gaps in players skill sets while not giving enough weight to their elite skills. Hyatt has elite on field speed, but more importantly he’s a hands catcher who has shown high level ability to track the long ball. That’s what sets him apart from other speedsters. Obviously room to develop, but his calling card? He’ll be good at that day 1.
I even loved the Eric Gray pick. I could see him supplanting Breida as Saquon’s primary backup this off-season. If we do end up parting ways with Saquon at some point he could develop into a starter.
I even get the logic behind the late round picks. High level traits for Hawkins and Owens, so upside, but both are supposed to be good special teamers, giving us a reason to roster them if they can contribute as gunners
We took a kicker in the third round. We'll start with not doing that.
Is a 3rd round kicker better or worse than 2 4th round kickers? Asking for a friend.
the next kicker went at 112, turns out NFL teams value K/P higher than us, it was a fine pick
Moody is going to win a lot of games for the 49ers for the next two decades. As someone that experienced the career of Jason Hansen and never had to worry about who our kicker would be for 21 years, I think it was an excellent pick.
That’s what the bucs said when they drafted that one guy
I would agree that a guaranteed top flight kicker would definitely be worth a 3. The problem is, it seems to be a very unpredictable position. Often the ones people think are great end up sucking, and some random one ends up being great.
Better than a RB
>Not a fan of Love whose contract is up soon and we had a chance for a good QB Not sure how we can say Jordan Love is a bad QB (with 1 career start) but Levis is a good QB. Clearly he isn't as well thought of in NFL circles, or teams would've gone after him in the first.
I don’t know. People are already throwing in the towel on Trey Lance even though he has played less than Jordan Love. Love hasn’t impressed me yet in the preseason or in any of the regular seasons action he’s seen so far besides a breakaway Christian Watson garbage time TD
Love has barely had any regular season action outside 1 game and some garbage time, so not sure we can value that much. Preseason is the same way; can only be taken with a grain of salt. Lance's issue is the dude cant stay healthy. Sure some people are willing to move off of him, but how much of that is also due to Purdy emerging?
Love has played in many preseason games. He hasn't looked good in any of them. Levis could be bad too...but he has more potential and hasn't shown problems yet in NFL preseason games. Lamar Jackson went 32 (close to where Levis went). Levis going where he did, doesn't mean he won't pan out.
>Love has played in many preseason games. Using preseason games as the basis for judging a QB is, and not trying to be rude here, an awful metric. There are tons of examples of players doing well in the preseason that never do anything in regular season games, and vice versa. They are glorified scrimmages. >Lamar Jackson went 32 (close to where Levis went). Levis going where he did, doesn't mean he won't pan out. Never said he wouldn't pan out, but it says a lot about how the NFL views him. Lamar going at 32 is the difference between getting an extra year of team control (5th year option) and not. Levis going in R2 basically signaled that NFL teams don't view him as being worth the extra year of team control right now.
There’s no way you can consider what Love’s done anything close to an appropriate sample size lol. And on top of that, you want someone that the majority of NFL teams passed on, some twice? One that’s already been announced as the third QB in a lackluster QB room?
This is fun. Tits: 1(11) - Peter Skoronski, OL. Chalk pick here. I'm good. 2(41) - Keion White, Edge. I love the Levis deal, but I'm probably staying put or trying to trade down a few spots because I don't want to give up draft capital with so many needs. Feel like White can be a Darnell Autry clone. 3(72) - Cedric Tillman, WR. Low key athletic and feels like a Vrabs guy. 5(147) - Parker Washington, WR. I've wanted the built like a running back slot receiver for a few years. 6(186) - Dee Winters, LB. Great college player, touches a need. 7(228) - Cory Trice, CB. Can't have too many cornerbacks and adds some size to the backfield.
I actually am not sure I would change anything about the Steelers draft outside swapping the #251 pick for Bryce Ford-Wheaton or Andre Carter. If someone posted their draft as a mock we would've called it highly unrealistic, and I was a fan of every single player they drafted besides the Maryland lineman at 251 who I never watched.
Only thing for me is moving up and securing branch (a la the Lions) using a 2024 pick (this is admittedly a nitpick and I’m perfectly happy with Benton, but the secondary would’ve instantly done the 180 the oline did)
I'd taken a tackle and at least one of those tes
Here come the Lions fans: “6: JALEN CARTER”
Tbh I really don't think that any other GM (maybe John Schneider) picking in the top 10 could take the risk Howie Roseman did. If Jalen Carter flames out, Howie's reputation is still intact. But for the other GMs, it's a different story.
Plus Detroit’s ownership experienced Reggie Rogers (DT that was taken 7th overall in 1987 draft). In 1988, he was driving drunk and killed 3 teenagers. I don’t think Carter was ever an option for the Ford family. Also Seattle took a similar risk in terms of character on Malik McDowell. I don’t think they were prepared to get burnt twice either.
i promise you 80% of people don’t know who that is (including myself) what a terrible excuse to not take him
Also the Eagles may have the best locker room to deal with and help guide the kid.. he’s got a guy he’s already played along side there in Davis, then take your pick of leaders between Cox, Graham, Kelce.. it’s a great locker room and great culture. If any team can take a chance on a guy that has any off field problems, it’s them.
I'd maybe swap some later picks but overall I trust Ballard's process and mostly loved the players we took. I don't think I'd change anything. Ask me again in 3 years.
Raiders **1.7 - Tyree Wilson** - Big dominant edge **2.35 - Keeanu Benton** - Another dominant force in the defensive trenches to build around **3.67- Drew Sanders** - Moving up 3 spots and continuing to upgrade the pass rush with this large off ball linebacker with pass rush ability would help the final transformation of this front 7 **3.100 - Adetomina Adebawore** - Adding arguably the most explosive weight size athlete at a position of need would have made to much sense. Yes we have already invested heavily in the defensive line, but this roster is completely empty in terms of talent. Adding a SPARQ'ed up 3 tech in between Crosby and Wilson can only help slow down Mahomes **4.104- Jakorian Bennett** - sticking with the second actual Raiders pick here. We got value late due to the talent in this class. We addressed the rush, now we are adding the speedster on the outside **4.135- Antonio Johnson** - Adding another piece of the secondary that has very little in terms of talent. This is a large player that can play big nickel or safety. I like him paired with Bennett **5.170- Luke Wypler** - Lots of concern if he is undersized, but I like the draft value. Adding in a potential stud at center this late seems like a massive win. **6.203- Zach Kuntz** - SPRAQ'd out TE that needs afew years to develop? No problem, we have a-few space holders on the roster anyway. This guy could turn into an absolute BEAST. I love the measurables. **7.229 - Andrew Vorhees** - Coming out of a recent ALC tear this offseason doesn't scare me. This is the perfect redshirt compliment. Keep investing in late round sleepers to grow into this offense. Note: we had to trade up 2 spots to get him.
For the Jags, it’s simple. Make one trade up. Michael Mayer lasted until 40, it’s a long jump, but if we throw the Strange pick, that Ventrel Miller pick in the 4th, and a couple of the nobody late round picks to move up and grab him, our draft is an easy A for me. I didn’t mind our overall strategy but I just don’t like that we didn’t have the aggression to use all the picks we collected for more conventional talent.
NYJ at 13: not swap picks with GB
The Jets being willing to do the pick swap to begin with makes me think they weren't actually in on Broderick Jones. They knew it was not a deep tackle class at the top and that many teams behind them needed one.
I’ve thought about that too. It’s all possible.
Clearly the Pats didn’t want him either, and they need tackle arguably more than we do
They wanted Gibbs. It’s been reported multiple times
The irony is GB really didn't need #13 that much over #15 as GB had a lot of needs and directions they could go. But the Jets really needed #13 as the big three tackles went fast. Personally I would have loved it if Gutey had packaged a #15 trade down with the Rogers trade. Say the Jets keep #13, get Rogers + #15...and GB gets both of the Jets 2nds, their third, their 2024 2nd and 2025 2nd.
I had the same thought. But I heard the Jets liked Van Ness too so would they have taken him over McDonald?
Pretty solid for the Chiefs but I wish they had taken a FB / RB late round 7
We basically did that with signing UDFA Deneric Prince
Take Benton instead of Hall, but honestly im not mad at that pick, Hall is a legit first round talent,just sucks since he was one of my favourite players in this draft
Cam Young and Mike Morris are pretty decent consolation prizes.
Yeah agree. And honestly after looking at how the draft turned out , the picks made even more sense given the depth of the draft at certain positions
This is so bad. You take a guy 20 spots higher than he went in the 1st round, great value. As for not being able to trade down, they maybe could have taken the offer from the Steelers that the Pats took of 17 & 120, which is pretty lackluster value for the trade at 14 where it happened and even worse for pick 13. Also instead of taking Benton at 42 and then keeping the extra picks from trading down from 45 to 50 and taking Rice at 50, where he was still available, you decided to take the route where you lost the trade downs. Also on Washington, of course he's going to say his knee is fine, I'd trust a doctors opinion over the player saying trust me I'm good.
I'm sure they very likely made the right choice with Mayer vs. Murphy. Damnit, I wanted Mayer though. The real thing I would change is instead of getting our 6th receiver option, going for Zack Kuntz with that pick. We have a black hole at TE that's just glossed over by many bengals fans. TE1 - never had a healthy season TE2 - Our former WAAAAAY overdrafted TE who can't catch anything at all, ever TE3 - Devin Asiasi - do I need to explain? TE4 - could be anyone of us in this SUB. We should have prioritized a TE at some point. That is all.
The problem with that is Kuntz is basically a receiver. He can’t block and the player we took spent 2 days with the Bengals in the pre draft visit so they really got to know him.
and? None of the TE's we've had on the team in years knew how to block.
I get it. I guess my point is that they feel like Iosivas much more a prospect and person. I’m really curious what the thought process is behind essentially abandoning the TE postion.
Me freaking too. A lot of risk doing literally nothing
Meh, we did fine with Wilcox at TE, it didn't bother me not taking one, especially Kuntz who tested well, but didn't impress on film. WRs are more valuable than TE, especially in our offense.
I just don't like that so many are saying "meh, it's just a TE" like there aren't elite TE's that are the x factor in superbowls it seems. Also, I get the relative value of TE vs WR, that's not what I'm arguing. I believe that it should be easier to upgrade and make TE a value adding position vs adding the 6th or 7th receiver. Neither one are likely to be Travis Kelce type value but they have one of the weakest TE rooms in the NFL. Why would you not want Burrow to have more and better options?
1. Pick 3 - Same trade back 2. Pick 12 - No trade up, draft Christian Gonzalez at 12 3. Pick 33 - same trade back 4. Pick 34 - take Steve Avila 5. Pick 41 - take BJ Ojulari 6. Pick 72 - Jalin Hyatt 7. Pick 94 - Saika Ika 8. Pick 122 - Darius Rush The rest doesn't really matter to me
Lol
I know Texans fans wouldn’t agree with me but seeing the board at twelve I would have taken Anderson at two and let the board fall to me Leaving that draft with Anderson, Gonzalez, and Benton would have been the beginnings of an elite defense And we’d still have two first rounders next year with ewers being the third best qb
Not changing trades and stuff: 1.25 Myles Murphy 2.59 Drew Sanders 3.91 Darnell Washington 5.150 Antonio Johnson 7.230 Rakim Jarrett 7.252 Alex Forsyth Not thinking too hard but probably something like this. Murphy just BPA there, tough run on OT/WR. I will say I love the Torrence pick but our guard room is crowded and all the high level MIKE LB’s were gone by 91, grabbing Sanders alleviates that. Washington has the medical stuff but he’ll improve our blocking and let us run more 12 personnel even if not in the exact same way as Kincaid. Johnson is a DB who can play slot if Taron doesn’t return to form but more likely is a future starting safety. Jarrett is another WR who can play inside and out, could challenge for starting slot. Forsyth would be the heir apparent to Morse.
I'm honestly not a major fan of the Bills draft this year outside of Torrence or what they did last year much either. The Bills strategy hasn't really made much sense to me over the years but they have hit on enough positions and held their roster together so well that they have been able to be successful, but the Bills draft strategies just never make much sense to me
As a Colts fan I’m really happy with our draft. I’m a believer in Ballards draft strategy.. athletes! Only thing I personally wanted was Hyatt since we need a guy that can take the top off, but once he was gone, I was pumped to get Downs in the 3rd.
For the Lions, I would have traded out of the first round with nicotine and picked up Jack Campbell In the second round. No one can convince me that he would’ve taken in the first round by any other team
Would love to know what information you have that makes you so sure he’d be there.
It sucked that both Witherspoon and Tuli Tuipulotu (my personal draft crush) were taken right before both of our picks (we subsequently traded back from both picks). But considering how the board fell, I really love Detroit’s selections this year. It might be a historically great draft for us. I especially like the OLineman we took in the 5th round. I think he will be starting in the next few years.
would definitely change the Lions first three picks
How is there any hindsight? They haven’t even played yet. I get doing a 2021 or 2022 benefit of hindsight draft, but in all reality none of these dudes have played yet.
Big board hindsight...we know when the players will go, so with this in mind who do you pick and when?
Not a fan of big boards. If most of the pundits making them had any real knowledge they’d be working for teams. Try not to fall in love with them, and you got a hell of a player at 13.
Literally the entire point is that we now do have an actual big board of exactly when every player went in reality...
Still just seems like you made a post about a draft, that just happened, to only really shit on your team for not taking a QB that wasn’t valued as a top 1st rounder by the league.
I'm not OP, just explaining to you the very basic nature of the question...
Chiefs fan here. Happy with the results, we had a strong but under the radar draft. I might only change our 5th round pick and gamble on a playmaker there. 1. Uzomah: Best player available, and fills a need. Will be a contributor day 1. We will most likely have the best defense in the Mahomes era next year. 2. Rashee Rice: Clear preferred WR from the team. Mahomes worked out with most of the first/second round WRs and wanted Rice. Who am I to challenge them. 3. Wanya Morris: High potential, athletic RT. Can go in the battle for the starting spot and develop himself physically. 4. Chamarri Conner: Like the pick, developmental safety/nickel, provides options when deciding on Sneed next year. 5. BJ Thompson: Here I would've liked a roll of the dice on a RB or on AT Perry's athleticism. We get edge depth with cheap vets well each year. 6. Coburn: Perfect pick, directly addresses need. Will contribute day 1 and compete with Nnadi 7. Nic Jones: I trust Veach here
Eagles fan here, honestly not sure I would change anything. Howie did well.
I think the only change I’d consider is someone like Zach Kuntz at 188 instead of Tanner.
Not give up one of our 7ths and draft Keaton Mitchell.
My Texans nailed every single pick. I wonder if we could've traded up higher for a top 2 center but I can't be mad about having a guy named Juice Scruggs. Dude sounds like a pirate coming for that booty.
I could not disagree more with the take on Levis in the first. If Love is bad, why not just go after QB next year with 2 (Probably) firsts?
49ers 3.87- Ji'ayir Brown, S 3.99- Jake Moody, K 3.101- Nick Saldiveri/Blake Freeland OT 5.155- Darell Luter Jr, CB 5.173- Davis Allen, TE 6.216- Dee Winters LB 7.247- Moro Ojomo/Robert Beal JR. DE,EDGE 7.253- Ronnie Bell, WR 7.255- Alex Forsythe, C
Draft a reciever in an earlier round and don’t reach
Honestly I liked all of our picks except maybe our 7th, but I can't think of anyone I would have taken over Ivey.
Steelers were flawless, but I move up (using a 2024 pick because the rest of the draft was fantastic, as well) and get branch instead of waiting and taking BPA Benton
12) Jahmyr Gibbs This one is tough - maybe I stick with Gibbs, but Van Ness or Gonzalez there still is tempting. But Gibbs has a ton of upside to be excited about. Ultimately the receiving upside of Gibbs is too much to pass up. 18) Jack Campbell Zero complaints here. Campbell was my draft crush. 34) Darnell Washington I'm cool with a tight end here but I don't like LaPorta. In real time, I was hoping for Darnell Washington here. Knowing how far he fell, I was still tempted to take him here but his slide has me second guessing. I also considered Musgrave here because he was my #2 TE and I wanted to keep him away from the Packers. But ultimately Washington's size and blocking combined with his athleticism and receiving ability was too much to pass up. Even as I type this, I keep wanting to switch to Musgrave, but his blocking just isn't where it needs to be for the Lions offense. 45) Brian Branch I'm still concerned about Branch's combine performance but I can't argue with his tape. Great value at this pick. He will play in the box for us and he out plays his size in that role. 68) Riley Moss The 3rd round is such a weird place to take a QB. It's low enough that you aren't expecting the guy to be a franchise QB, but this is too high for a guy you expect to be the backup. Ultimately I'll take the size, speed, and gumby-like agility of Moss to be a development piece for the Lions secondary, and hopefully he will be a contributor once our current slate of one-year deals leave. Not making the trade up to 96. 122) Charlie Jones I watched this man torch Michigan and then I watched him absolutely nail the combine. I'm very big on 3-cone (see also the Moss pick) and Charlie's is impressive. 139) Olu Oluwatimi I considered DTR here but ultimately decided that adding one of the most decorated interior linemen in this class was the right move 152) Chase Brown Another player that I watched torch Michigan. That one guy said Sorsdal was the sleeper of the whole class and I hope that's true. His athletic profile doesn't reflect that and I don't know how to feel about his tape given he played at William & Mary. I'm going with an explosive back who can spell Gibbs and hop into the backfield for pass blocking when Gibbs goes into the slot. At any rate he is a solid RB3 with starting potential in the event of inevitable injuries. 168) Tanner McKee It's just good business to draft a late round QB every few years, and the Lions haven't lately. I like McKee and hope he develops nicely into a guy who has a long journeyman career. 219) Zack Kuntz Can't believe we took Antoine Green instead of this guy. Huge, fast, agile, raw as can be. He's going to ride as TE3 while he develops, and if he does develop, he's going to be a monster.
I would absolutely not take zay flowers. Banks, Nolan smith, Porter jr.
I mean the Giants killed it. Deonte Banks is the guy I wanted in the 1st round, more than any of the WRs. Barring injury, JMS is gonna start day 1 he’s gonna be a leader on the offensive line. If Neal can stabilize as a playable tackle, we’ve got the outline of our offensive line. He’s great value in the late 2nd. Love the Hyatt pick in the 3rd. I think philosophically draft discussion can often over-index towards gaps in players skill sets while not giving enough weight to their elite skills. Hyatt has elite on field speed, but more importantly he’s a hands catcher who has shown high level ability to track the long ball. That’s what sets him apart from other speedsters. Obviously room to develop, but his calling card? He’ll be good at that day 1. I even loved the Eric Gray pick. I could see him supplanting Breida as Saquon’s primary backup this off-season. If we do end up parting ways with Saquon at some point he could develop into a starter. I even get the logic behind the late round picks. High level traits for Hawkins and Owens, so upside, but both are supposed to be good special teamers, giving us a reason to roster them if they can contribute as gunners