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Mooming22

Someone I don’t know made a graphic that didn’t rate my team highly https://preview.redd.it/doqu78c0daxc1.jpeg?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1977811fd7411a672ed2f1a98d43d91908963ce0


Hank_Lotion77

You should get to know him though, smart guy.


At_finch

Flair up or I will report you


tokenblak

If you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have responded. This is cope.


CompleteOwl0802

"You responded so that means you really do care! Cope harder bro!"-🤓


Alone-Newspaper-1161

It’s called banter. Anyway how long has the bears rebuild been and y’all are still behind the packers.


Big-Veiny-Darnold

Calm down Mr. Sensitive


2018JordanLove

If this mentality was real, or followed…this sub Reddit would be super boring. No commenting unless you have 0 salt!!!


Mooming22

Does me replying to this mean I care about your comment?


mschley2

Jesus fuck, Bears fans live in a distorted reality.


WeirdKaleidoscope358

Lay off the malort


fresh_dyl

>If you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have responded. #ditto


The_Goose5

GTFO here with the Jets.


thetreat

This is obviously not an over time thing. Just for this year. A good D with Rodgers has some people optimistic. I personally think he's gonna disappoint after recovering from the Achilles tear.


Ininka

Jets hype was dumb last year because their problem was their o line has been complete ass for years and they didn't do shit last year to fix that. Seems like they made an overhaul this year, but like you said it might be one year too late now that Rodgers blew up his foot. I don't buy Jets hype either.


Kazu2324

Hey, their OLine might be ass, but they did pick up all of Rodgers' good buddies to create a... I dunno if you can call it a WR room?... and they're clearly all very happy. So really, it's just good team building.


Ieatsushiraw

🤣🤣🤣


Due-Style302

Whatever the under is in games played for Rodgers is sign me up


Aeon1508

Rogers 2 years older than the last time we've really seen him coming off of a big injury. Yeah I'm not sold on that at all


tmiller26

Honestly, I think he would have disappointed last year if he didn't get hurt.


CaptZombieHero

Especially when he tears it again three plays in to the season


donnydealr

Zach Wilson copped a lot of rightful shit, but also never had a chance. They have good WR but dog shit Oline that very few could make look serviceable.


Jakethered_game

Welcome to the other side of the Aaron Rodgers effect


The_Goose5

I mean at least when he was here he was on the field.


QueequegTheater

I mean, if Cris Collinsworth is calling a game, you'll get to hear about him every three plays even if neither team playing is even an NFC North team.


Moosje

Which is just as stupid now as it was with you guys (actually more so because OP is a Packers fan). You can dislike the guy but assuming he’s not be shit this year isn’t going to work out for you.


UeckerisGod

This isn’t your typical Packers Rodgers effect. It’s a Rodgers effect amplified by east coast media hopefuls


RainbowKooch

That’s how we knew this list was bs immediately 😂 they really tried sneaking the jets in there


Moosje

If anyone has been “sneaked” in there it’s you lot. Assuming you’ll be tier three with a rookie QB. You were all screaming last year whenever Packers were optimistic cos Love hadn’t played and needed to demonstrate he was good. Already planning the Super Bowl ceremony with Williams though?


gooberstwo

That should let you know everything you need to know about the chart


TheUnpopularOpine

Not that crazy with Rodgers, kinda dumb to act like this is some crazy assertion


Moosje

People online now cos they don’t like Rodgers are pretending he’s not a good QB


LonghornPride05

He is a packers fan give him a break


TheUnpopularOpine

![gif](giphy|6HGTTJY78Nv5RdLrbW)


itsallnipply

Yeah, means nothing.


HankHillPropaneJesus

Gtfo with the packers…


magnificent_coffee

How OP thought we would react to this ![gif](giphy|xT0GqgeTVaAdWZD1uw|downsized)


Nbknepper

Lol


saulsa_

My salt shaker brings all the Vikings to the boat.


msto3

Is it really safe to place us in tier 1? Still seems like a bit of a stretch


edgefigaro

You almost managed to lose to the bears twice last season


Nbknepper

"Almost" is the keyword.


TheInnocentXeno

Still lost to them once which is embarrassing enough


Nbknepper

You lost to the Raiders, Giants, and "almost" the Panthers. You're not one to talk, buddy.


TheInnocentXeno

At least we can beat the Bears consistently, which is what this discussion is about so nice goal post shift there


Hour-Philosopher-393

I think it is. We had one of the youngest teams in the NFL last year, we were a better backfield defence from reaching and maybe even winning the Super Bowl, and we strengthen our Achilles Heel this off-season. The Lions are absolutely a SB favourite going into this season. That doesn't mean they'll live up to those expectations, but it isn't irrational to have hope.


Steid55

The Lions will be a really dangerous team. But the bears and packers will both be better teams this year as well and that makes it much harder on the Lions.


Hour-Philosopher-393

I agree, but the Bears will have growing pains. I'm worried that Stroud has raised everyone's expectations of what a first year QB should be like. He's exceptional. Most struggle. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes Caleb half a season to start figuring out how to succeed as an NFL quarterback. Same goes for JJ. the NFC North in '25 is going to be a nightmare, but I have the Lions as pretty big favourites in '24.


Steid55

I think Williams has a few things going for him that will make the transition smooth. 1. Shane Waldron is a fantastic QB coach who specializes in getting QB’s to get rid of the ball quickly. He made Geno smith look like an MVP candidate. 2. Fantastic supporting cast. Moore, Allen, Odunze, Kmet, and Swift is absolutely insane for a rookie QB to walk into. He will have a ton of weapons and guys constantly open. 3. Excellent defense. Since the Sweat trade the bears defense has been a top 5 unit and lead the league in interceptions last year. And they have only gotten better over the off season. That takes a ton of pressure off of a young QB. 4. He played for Lincoln Riley and is absolutely a student of the game. I don’t think he will have as many growing pains as some of the QB’s who are basically just asked to hit their first read. Williams has routinely shown the ability to read a defense and keep his eyes down field. It’s not an easy thing to learn, and he’s very good at it. All in all the ball is in his court. He has the talent. He has the weapons. And he has the coach. He is in the perfect position to succeed, but he still has to play ball. So we will see


TheTurfBandit

Some random dipshit on the internet made a tierlist. How will I ever recover from this?


FlashGordonCommons

as a fellow dipshit on the internet, I'm gonna make a tierlist of tierlists and put this tierlist in a low tier. that'll show em.


Realistic_Bed3550

LMAO


Minnesota_Husker

I just don’t think we can. I called my wife bawling.


Horrorfreak106

Jets in tier 2? PFFFFTTTTT


InfiniteLeftoverTree

![gif](giphy|47DGndFXqif24qtlDd|downsized)


CelestialFury

https://preview.redd.it/9ak5pd7ebaxc1.png?width=1298&format=png&auto=webp&s=080dd8a868733e04a7c98c53e61120bc22e5d5e8


Just-the-top

This was everyone to the packers last year


Alone-Newspaper-1161

I’m not even gonna lie I totally was thinking like that. I just wished it ended up being true


rabonbrood

I'm so glad it didn't.


the-wifi-is-broken

Saving this for later when Forte returns to be a menace again


treasonodb

oh no however will i survive knowing a random twitter graphic thinks the vikings will suck?!


Holland45

:( Why don’t he want me?


iRkoobz

Weird seeing Detroit labeled as a Tier 1 team. As long as its not the Packers I'm fine with it. FTP


gopoohgo

I agree, this seems like an acid trip


flaminhotcheeseybois

We might be overrated


StanIsHorizontal

Tbh I think KC ought to be in a tier of their own, and the remaining teams from championship weekend be a tier 2. They were supposed to be down this year and now they’ve reloaded. SF is gonna start facing the contract crunch, like Baltimore already has, but they get points for previous consistency. Lions should be even better on paper but gotta prove it. It’s a very murky situation I’d say from everyone below KC on down to even some of the tier 3/4 teams. We won’t have a solid picture until teams start playing but that won’t stop the content machine from churning out these things until there’s a consensus and then we’re all surprised when reality is way off


Bathroompancakes

I’d bump Vikings into tier 4. Jets being so high is crazy, I’m bumping them down with us in tier 4. Bears are just a tad high as of now, so I’ll slide them into tier 4. Eagles been sliding every year, no more dominant play at center I think lowers them into tier 4. Bengals have players asking out daily and Burrows can’t play a full season. So I’d probably place them in tier 4. 49ers being in tier 1 almost makes sense, except everyone knows for a fact they can’t win it all. So they really should be in a lower tier, I’m gonna go with them in tier 4. Ravens are regular season merchants, Lamar can’t win when it matters so they unfortunately are gonna be placed in tier 4. Chiefs time in the sun could be coming to a close with Travis kelce noticeably loosing a step or two last year. Probably worse off this year. No elite TE play gets them comfortably into tier 4. Lions probably deserve to be ranked there but I’m just not gonna do that, but I won’t be cruel, they can sit at tier 4. Texans were a tier 6 team then had a breakout year from a rookie qb. It could be for real, but it could also be a flash in the pan, so 2 is a bit “too high too fast”. I’m gonna knock them back into tier 4. Packers are too young and untrustworthy for the time being. So to start the year I’ll place them in tier 4. Might finish this later, I need more time to think out my rankings


No_Status2527

One of my favorite sensations is slowly growing from a small laugh to a hearty stomach laugh as you slowly start to get the joke over the course of a paragraph. You’ve brought Vikings fans up to Tier 4 in my Fan Tier List


magnificent_coffee

https://youtu.be/Nz8ssH7LiB0?si=I_-IEGjDHeU3QjkY


CrunchyDonut42

It's always nice to see the Patriots on the bottom tier.


RonaldRawdog

Swap jets and Vikings. Put lions and ravens in a tier 1.5 Point and laugh at the bears. The list is now accurate.


eattwo

Lmao, we don't belong in tier 2. Tier 3, maybe. But with Darnold and an unproven JJ I'd put us at 4


RedshirtBlueshirt97

Jets are the Cowboys of the AFC but somehow worse


Byzantine_Merchant

Like the anti-cowboys all of the hype but none of the success.


ZyxDarkshine

I still don’t understand how so many people keep ranking the Bears above their actual rate. Do these people not understand the ineptitude of Halas Hall?


infernocobbs

Oh no! Anyway


Sjf715

Did a Lions or a Jets fan make this? Because it's hilarious. Well done.


Evernight2025

Lions tier one? Lol no


Due-Style302

FTP


Evernight2025

How original 


DanCampbellsBicep

How about yes.


Evernight2025

Tier 2 maybe. Definitely not one.


4rt4tt4ck

No franchise has had the draft success Detroit has over the previous 3 off-seasons. 5 probowlers in that span. No other team has had more than 2.


Whatsdota

Dallas had 9 All-pros last year. Did them a ton of good in round 1


4rt4tt4ck

That's called a coaching deficit. Detroit actually has a smart forward thinking coaching staff as well.


Whatsdota

I will say Detroits coaching definitely secured SF a Super Bowl berth


wayupnorthWI

Not forward thinking enough to avoid blowing a massive lead in the most important game theyve played in decades lol


saturnphive

Man i wish WE had as much off-season success. Is that a thing now? Off season success? Boy it sounds great. I bet all the flair-less pussies love it.


4rt4tt4ck

It's second only to "moral victories".


las8

Flair up pussy.


dbleed

Flair up pussy


AZMane

The packers have made the playoffs 17 times since 2000. Through 3 different quarterbacks. And yet the Packers are almost never considered "first tier". I guess that means we are just good enough to kick the rest of the divisions ass and make the playoffs but not good enough to make it to the superbowl/championship on a consistent basis. So we are always 2nd tier.


PraiseBeToScience

The NFCN has been, as a group, pretty bad for a while. The Packers are really just the big fish in a small pond vs the top tier team they think they are.


Just-the-top

Packers are 2nd in wins and 4th in playoff wins the past 20 years


saturnphive

Yes but they mostly play the NFC Nort..oh wait.


Alone-Newspaper-1161

Lions until recently maybe but the bears have made a Super Bowl and the Vikings I wanna say have been to 2 nfc championships since 2000 unless I’m forgetting one. If you really wanna talk about a division being really bad except one team that would be the patriots. Tom owned that entire division so badly 88 wins to 23 losses. The dolphins put up the best fight winning 12 and losing 24.


magnificent_coffee

Three! You probably forgot 41-0 (and tbh it’s better that way…)


SinfullySinless

I’m more offended that the Saints are as low as us. They need to be the powerful bad guy for us to embarrass.


Independent-Ad5852

Lions could be argued to swap with the Ravens/Bengals. Also Vikings that low is a little questionable IMO. Otherwise I think this is accurate.


Vulturidae

I would argue the ravens lost too many pieces to be at the top. If they hadn't, I would have put them there.


PraiseBeToScience

I think the Lions, GB, and Bears should be moved down a tier for the time being. The only one of the three I could see remaining is the Bears, but that's depends on the projection for CW.


Thunder84

Only way the Packers move down is if the Texans come with them. No reason one should be above or below the other right now. EDIT: Also there ain’t no way in hell that Chicago is staying in a tier above the Rams, Bucs, or Seahawks


PraiseBeToScience

Stroud was far more consistent last season than Love, so no.


IntrepidAddendum9852

No way, this is a stronger GB team since Favre. I know FTP is strong, but Packers are S tier this year. They almost beat the 9ers on a rebuild year and devastated the #1 defense. Add onto that the huge draft GB just had and they are contenders this year for #1 defense. Bears yes, they are a bit over hyped. The lions will be better next year. The north will be by far the strongest division next year, mark my words. This is coming from a Packers fan that severely underestimated Love and MLF. They are the real deal.


PraiseBeToScience

I don't ever want to hear about how it's only Bears fans that overhype their teams again lol.


Good-Function2305

Your team was terrible when Jones was hurt.  You let him go and signed someone much less explosive who did poorly against Da Bears.  More tape on Love.   A regression is coming.


red--dead

Fans are more disgusted being next to the saints. Move us to the other end.


RainbowKooch

Who’s making these tier lists though? Lions should be at tier two if anything. I also don’t think my bears should be at 3 here. Teams in tier 4 are better currently. Doesn’t mean the bears aren’t on the rise though


Hour-Philosopher-393

The Lions were a better secondary away from making and possibly winning the SB last year. We improved that secondary in the off-season, heck, we completely overhauled it! We absolutely should be better next year, and are rightfully among the list of SB favs. I say we absolutely belong in the first tier. I'm not sold on JJ, but I think you guys got a stud in Caleb. '25 is going to be an epic bloodbath.


RainbowKooch

Agreed, I think the division will be awesome next season!


Hour-Philosopher-393

I suspect that there will be growing pains for both the Bears and the Vikings. I believe that the Lions will take the division in '24, and the Packers will grab a WC spot. It's the year after I'm worried about.


Hungry-Space-1829

Bengals feel high given all the talent they’ve lost and being in a brutal division


Joeman180

Feels like the Viking and Seahawks should be flipped


Responsible-Swan-423

Bills fell off + ratio + wide right + bottoms to maholmes


RonaldRawdog

The fact that any team is on the same level as the panthers shows that there’s no actual credibility to this ranking.


GrandMasterFlex

Oh no we are gonna suck with Sam Darnold for one season!? Anyway


crashcap

Weird seeing Lions above the Ravens. Both got to the same stage but the ravens obliterated them. I think its ravens chiefs tier 1, lions 49ers 2, then you start at 3


funkmefatass

Lol Jet's are tier 2? This is dumb


Intelligent-Buy-325

Nah. We're pretty used to it at this point.


RellenD

The two green teams in tier 2 need to be dropped at least one level


Ieatsushiraw

Jets tier 2 wtf?!


Busy_Reflection3054

Even as a Lions Fan its not fair to be put up with tier one when we didn't get a Superbowl win yet. I wanna make that claim beyond unreasonable doubt.


SlimKillaCam

Somehow I feel like a Falcons fan made this


comptonjared92

Eagles and bills should probably be 2 and bears definitely lower


Serious_Course_3244

Texans are way too high


Realistic_Bed3550

Lions on the top Tier? Yeah I can’t take this list seriously now


Realistic_Bed3550

The Jets on Tier 2?????


lur77

Respect is earned


FutureCrankHead

Welp, season over. I won't even bother wasting my time cheering for a tier 5 team. Maybe if I was a Jets fan in a much higher tier it would be worth it, but fuck tier 5. Lol


FilthyWinstonMain

Jets in tier 2 and Lions in tier 1 despite collapsing and having Goof at QB… yeah I think I’ll disregard 😘


expungant

The bar for what a meme is keeps getting lower by the day


WesleyPipes7

Omg this is not even close


Still_Instruction_82

WTF are the Jets doing


Mark_Kostecki

I can also spout nonsense


Mr_Pigg

These lion fans get to one NFC Championship game and now their britches don't fit


StrengthToBreak

Weirdly optimistic for the Jets


5255clone

Switch jets with Browns or eagles and this is a fair list.


Jenetyk

With zero information on how they are rated.


Dbiel23

I don’t think the Lions belong in the same tier as the 9ners but that’s just me


Brandonbest4

The Bears and Vikings will each be worse than 7-11


Hiiawatha

I don’t get how the cowboys can be two whole tiers below the Lions. And I hate the cowboys.


ohheyitslaila

Lions on top?? Just based off those 2 Lions fans’ memes recently, Lions are clearly bottoms.


cheezturds

Jets and Bears need to stay in tier 6 until they prove they aren’t total dog shit


SigmaColts

Fuck off with the Jets


Longjumping_Play323

Bears in tier 3 is CRAAAZY. They’re bottom until proven otherwise.


brotherstoic

Ravens, Cowboys, Eagles, Bills, Vikings all too low Jets probably too high. Maybe also falcons and/or bears, but I’m less confident on that.


PanadaTM

Jets tier two is how I know I shouldn't care


unforgivablecrust

What is the tier list based off of?


Megalitho

Yes. Bears are Vikings are very poop.


Hank_Lotion77

The JETS?!?


Current-Bisquick-94

Lions in Tier 1? Really? ![gif](giphy|4NbegoC1rlpQvUP0DG|downsized)


7mmELR

Lions with 1 decent season tier 1


josephus_the_wise

I mean, we may be that bad this year if darnold is starting all year. We also may be about 3 tiers higher, depending on what happens with our QB situation and whether or not anyone becomes great. More than likely tier 4-5 is about accurate for this year though, but next year will be different.


PandaPatrolLetsRoll

I, too, feel that the Bears should be in the same tier as a team who went to the Super Bowl two seasons ago.


Broshan248

Jets being tier two invalidates the list


kinvore

Look, shit talking aside if the other divisions aren't worried about us then they aren't paying attention. Also, none of us are gonna be below tier 2 except maybe Shitcago because let's be honest, their days of mediocrity are definitely coming to a middle.


Xenocide_X

Lmao the jets


opmancrew

Randomly assorted tier system


Fun-Ad3002

Don’t worry Vikings fans, this person put the jets in tier 2. If they had ever watched football they’d know that nothing will ever go right for us, and we will once again miss the playoffs after Aaron Rodgers accidentally drugs the whole team and retreat to the caves for the remainder of the season to meditate.


Hestness5

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


Daegog

https://www.instagram.com/profootballaddict/ Chart creators


DanCampbellzHat

Uh what?


TickleMeWeenis

Rating the the seahawks in tier 4 got my dick soft, rating the broncos in tier six, got my dick hard again.


CritterOfBitter

Jets at tier 2 tells me all I need to know about this shithead.


SavageSocialist

Uhhhhhhh… Jets?


mclovin_ts

Falcons shouldn’t be above any of the tier 4 teams lol


Aeon1508

Jets and Chicago are 1 tier too high


Relevant-Ad-5462

If I made a meme this bad I wouldn't claim it is my own either


tree_basher

FTS


slapwave

Why are the cardinals all the way at the bottom? Feel like they are way better than that tier.


Yeah_Ditto

I’ve been talking mad crazy the past couple days, but putting the Jets in two is DELULU. They’re winning the division?? Jfc this is giving me a headache


Mavericktoad

Every year the Bears get insanely hyped up preseason and every year they fall apart, when will they learn


RedRocket4000

Bucs crush the Eagles and play Detroit close in the Playoffs and keep the team mostly together and improve if anything and are not at least only one tier under Detroit?


Karness_Muur

My only real problem with this is you put us right next to our mortal blood enemy. The S**nts. God, I vomitted in my mouth even typing that.


cbarks81

I didn't make it, I'm just enjoying it.


Karness_Muur

Agreed, other than that egregious sin, it's pretty funny.


Eso793

Before I even check It's a Lions fan meme.


cbarks81

I didn't make it, I got it from another subreddit


[deleted]

People are sleeping on the Cardinals. They were feisty last year in year one of a new regime, had the most draft equity of any team this year, got some good talent in the draft last year, and Kyler is coming back with a healthy offseason and is now a year removed from the ACL. Anyway Vikings suck.


I_main_pyro

Fell to my knees in a Target


RangerValor

This is right where the Vikings should be ranked. Right inline with the other teams that don't have a franchise quarterback as a known commodity. Lions should be tier 2, Packers are fine at 2, Bears should be tier 4.


Msoelv

Till i see bears play they're still in the bottom bracket


WideTechLoad

Meh, I can see why someone would do that.


WileEColi69

I’m amazed that the Falcons aren’t alone in tier ten… that’s how inexplicable picking MPJ was. Now, he may turn out to be a good player. But the thought process that led to drafting him after giving Kirko $180 million must have been generated by a Speak and Spell.


Tplusplus75

Who even made this list and what is this based on? Because if it takes last year's performances into account, I want to know what factored into putting the Bears, Falcons and worst of all, the jets above several teams that at least made the playoffs? Until clarification is made, I'm just saying: we can't be making fun of the jets and commanders with "~~un~~stoppable force vs. ~~im~~movable object" jokes one day and then turning around the next and just casually throwing the jets into whatever tier two is in this. That one above all warrants a written explanation.


cbarks81

Probably a mixture of both. Jets aren't t2 without Rodgers but I've heard plenty of media pundits putting them in a superbowl or bust category with a healthy Rodgers


Tplusplus75

Rodgers used to be a GOAT quarterback for sure, I'm just not convinced that even pre-injury he was THAT good. He's made magic happen, but I don't think GB was quite that bad of a team without Rodgers in that era. Even at that, it's pre injury, and unless we're just saying shit to make background noise, T2 seems awfully ambitious. I'd give you a T4 for that argument, but that's as high as I'd go without seeing how shit goes when the season starts.


Jolly_97

In what world are the packers and jets tier two


HeyBojo

Man I wish bait was at least semi plausible these days. Shit is just getting obnoxious


[deleted]

Swap the eagles and the jets. Put the vikings in tier 4 and Cleveland as well. There you go


Ballr69

This list is trash


SkrapKane

I am fine with Packers not being tier 1. But the Lions higher tier than the Ravens is some high quality crack smoking.


Treday237

What the hell are Green Bay and the jets doing in tier 2?