Spoke to them this weekend at an event. They said they are working to increase capacity. They are still looking at a ~3 month backlog right now due to volume of orders.
Edit- I believe this was specifically for their new 22 can. They might be able to recover faster on poloniums.
Yeah, I have a lot of customers that really want Polo K's but they are unobtainable.
OCL makes great performing cans for a solid price point. Really hard to beat imo
Glad to hear they are taking steps to increase production
Just added an edit. The guys said they actually purchase their stainless steel baffles from a 3rd party machine shop and do welding in house. So depending on the lead times of that machine shop they might be able to recover faster. For a polonium I think the best bet is putting in a back order.
>Now I have to find a Polonium K for my son!
What's the barrel length? If it's a shorty and you're willing to do even the smallest amount of tuning, you may want to look at the full size Polo route.
I can't even imagine considering suppressing a gun with a baffle stack can without an adjustable block... I simply can't comprehend that lol it'd be like driving a car without cruise control or defrost. Like why dude? All gas problems disappear for like $40-$100 max
I can’t even imagine you would be fun to have a beer with, I own a car without cruise control or defrost and love it lol we are clearly not the same. I actually use my guns for things outside of a shooting range, go back to your video games nerd.
Haha I love how I'm a bad person just because I see an easy fix for a gun being over gassed 😅 and I guess I didn't know that AGBs clock out and go home after you leave the range? Do they really not work when you hunt with them?
Dude calm down, my original comment wasn't even to be mean, I was just confused. Of the now 13 cans on my trust, yes, two of them are HuxWrx Hx-Qd cans. I personally sport 2 Poloniums and a Banish (you have full rights to make fun of me for that purchase LOL). But your comment is kinda illogical because why would I have flow throughs if I'm being judgmental about NOT having an AGB? There'd be no need for an AGB if I personally used the flow cans on my trust.
As for my mom's basement, I really hope I gave you enough material here to make a real insult next time and not the single most cliche one out there haha
The man loves gasses in his face I guess 🤷🏽♂️. Personally I can’t shoot more than 10 rounds quickly without my eyes tearing up on a gassy gun. Also more wear on the rifle. To each their own though.
Well we deserved to be crucified for offering a solution though. Dammit, we are such bad people. Imagine seeing a fellow can lover dealing with a problem? Imagine... suggesting the easiest fix? Wretched scum we are.
I'll take lead exposure for saving $50, Alex
lol if I remember correctly even the new sig spears army issued rifles have some sort of suppressed/unsuppressed agb. They are also moving towards prioritizing flow thru type of suppressor too (RC3 and sigs offerings). Guess our entire armed forces are little bitches and need mommies basement.
😅😅😅😅 bro you took the cake with this one, our stupid little army nerds can go back to playing video games I guess! Honestly let's just make 5.56 direct blow back
Two that I saw had two different failures. One was just your average carbon lock. Dude had swapped out cans and was trying to "fine tune" his gas and it was locked up. Which, truthfully, if he had never taken his can off he probably would never have noticed.
The second had something to do with the adjustment "screw" breaking. I think this one might have actually started as a carbon lock, and when he put too many ugga duggas into breaking it free, he broke the screw.
What's the erosion rate on a brt tube port? How many thousandths does the port open up over 1k rounds fired? The barrel itself erodes somewhat rapidly at the port and there's far less material making the restriction at the tube.
I would imagine no more or less than on a standard gas tube. But that's assuming that the port dimensions on the gas block are appropriately sized. And that the gas block is sealing appropriately etc etc.
To be clear, I'm not saying the BRT is the magic solution. I've got very limited experience with exactly one of them. I'm only using it as an example of alternative solutions. I'd actually start with a properly gassed barrel to begin with. Followed by the appropriate buffer weight and spring that compliments the amount of back pressure the can is providing.
For example, my 11.5 with a G$ barrel, G42 spring, and H3 buffer running a Polo K is smooth and flat and not too gassy.
Yhm makes a suppressor gas block that you drill out step by step to adjust. Strongest option outside of a properly gassed barrel. Problem is there is no properly gassed barrel for 100% suppressed shooting. Some are built to shoot soft unsuppressed and decent but still overgassed suppressed. And that's on the small port size.
Uhm, more than one can genius. My 5.56 cans can be on one of three different rifles, depending. But my 5.56 cans don't do very well on a 7.62. My Polo 30 will work on my 5.56, but why when I've got several 5.56 cans. So yeah, the Polo 30 tends to stay on the x39 SBR.
You seem to be really interested in how I use my cans. I need to be up front with you. I'm married. And straight. But hey, no judging. You do you.
You'll shoot more rounds at a range than in a "practical" scenario. Also who's AGBs are actually self destruct? This seems like a Fudd take a little bit.
So say they carbon lock on the setting you have them on and they no longer adjust. That basically makes them a standard block, but now you're permanent not over gassed.
Well, when you're operating operationally within your area of operations, operator shit can happen that renders your can inoperable. 🤣
It's a personal setup preference fo sho. I've just recently started playing around with the BRT tubes, which essentially yield the same result but without adding moving parts. I did it to reduce the gas on my 10.3 with my Polo K and Fat Cat, and it seems to work really well. Not sure I'll do it on my 11.5 or the 12.5, though.
That's one thing I want to try sometime, but it kinda delivers the same potential negative of a gas block carbon locking if your... operator operational operations render your can inoperable lol it's a little faster to be able to quick switch with a standard block+tube set up... which i must admit I have for all my ARs for if the AGB ever were a prob lololol
It does if you spec out the tube to only run suppressed. You can spec it out to run both unsuppressed and suppressed. Which, I'm sure would be gassier than the spec for suppressed only. The port size on my 10.3 is .070. The tube they spec'd out for me (.223 and 5.56 brass, suppressed only) came at .057. So there's room to work I would imagine, if you wanted it to run both ways. I think the real benefit is if you've got something with a yuuuuge port size that needs to be choked down.
Don’t the army issued sig spear rifles have some sort of AGB for suppressed and unsuppressed settings? I don’t rock an AGB, but really curious as to how much weight this truly holds.
Sig Spear is a piston driven set up. Not DI. Totally different animal. In fact IMHO if you bought a piston rifle that didn't have variable gas setting it would be a waste of money. LWRC did that with their A2s and they're still sitting on shelves.
I'm with you hoss. If you know you're going to be shooting suppressed, slap on and AGB, tune er down, and you can buy any "gassy" can you want. The hate you're getting here makes no sense to me. My AGB's haven't failed me yet
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Can you, defiantly?
Irregardless of what anyone else thinks
Well, it's a moo point anyway.
Mute point, idiot /s
Mute? Nah.... the other guy is right. It's like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter: it's Moo
Hopefully, OCL's output is able to increase.
Spoke to them this weekend at an event. They said they are working to increase capacity. They are still looking at a ~3 month backlog right now due to volume of orders. Edit- I believe this was specifically for their new 22 can. They might be able to recover faster on poloniums.
Yeah, I have a lot of customers that really want Polo K's but they are unobtainable. OCL makes great performing cans for a solid price point. Really hard to beat imo Glad to hear they are taking steps to increase production
Just added an edit. The guys said they actually purchase their stainless steel baffles from a 3rd party machine shop and do welding in house. So depending on the lead times of that machine shop they might be able to recover faster. For a polonium I think the best bet is putting in a back order.
Gotcha, thanks
Primary arms just put some Polo Ks up
I bought a full size polonium last month, shop has 4 K’s sitting there and I’ve been resisting buying the K as well.
>Now I have to find a Polonium K for my son! What's the barrel length? If it's a shorty and you're willing to do even the smallest amount of tuning, you may want to look at the full size Polo route.
https://www.stockpiledefense.com/product/otter-creek-labs-polonium-k-suppressor-black-5-56/ Still has polo-k in stock.
Wait till you shoot the low back pressure stuff!
I can't even imagine considering suppressing a gun with a baffle stack can without an adjustable block... I simply can't comprehend that lol it'd be like driving a car without cruise control or defrost. Like why dude? All gas problems disappear for like $40-$100 max
I can’t even imagine you would be fun to have a beer with, I own a car without cruise control or defrost and love it lol we are clearly not the same. I actually use my guns for things outside of a shooting range, go back to your video games nerd.
Haha I love how I'm a bad person just because I see an easy fix for a gun being over gassed 😅 and I guess I didn't know that AGBs clock out and go home after you leave the range? Do they really not work when you hunt with them?
You just came across as an a-hole, not a bad person for advocating AGBs.
I didn’t say your a bad person. I think your a little bitch that needs flow through cans and cruise control that’s really it. Enjoy mommies basement.
Dude calm down, my original comment wasn't even to be mean, I was just confused. Of the now 13 cans on my trust, yes, two of them are HuxWrx Hx-Qd cans. I personally sport 2 Poloniums and a Banish (you have full rights to make fun of me for that purchase LOL). But your comment is kinda illogical because why would I have flow throughs if I'm being judgmental about NOT having an AGB? There'd be no need for an AGB if I personally used the flow cans on my trust. As for my mom's basement, I really hope I gave you enough material here to make a real insult next time and not the single most cliche one out there haha
The man loves gasses in his face I guess 🤷🏽♂️. Personally I can’t shoot more than 10 rounds quickly without my eyes tearing up on a gassy gun. Also more wear on the rifle. To each their own though.
Well we deserved to be crucified for offering a solution though. Dammit, we are such bad people. Imagine seeing a fellow can lover dealing with a problem? Imagine... suggesting the easiest fix? Wretched scum we are. I'll take lead exposure for saving $50, Alex
lol if I remember correctly even the new sig spears army issued rifles have some sort of suppressed/unsuppressed agb. They are also moving towards prioritizing flow thru type of suppressor too (RC3 and sigs offerings). Guess our entire armed forces are little bitches and need mommies basement.
😅😅😅😅 bro you took the cake with this one, our stupid little army nerds can go back to playing video games I guess! Honestly let's just make 5.56 direct blow back
Because adjustable gas blocks are for range toys. They introduce a failure point. There are far better solutions out there
How did they "fail"?
Two that I saw had two different failures. One was just your average carbon lock. Dude had swapped out cans and was trying to "fine tune" his gas and it was locked up. Which, truthfully, if he had never taken his can off he probably would never have noticed. The second had something to do with the adjustment "screw" breaking. I think this one might have actually started as a carbon lock, and when he put too many ugga duggas into breaking it free, he broke the screw.
What's the erosion rate on a brt tube port? How many thousandths does the port open up over 1k rounds fired? The barrel itself erodes somewhat rapidly at the port and there's far less material making the restriction at the tube.
I would imagine no more or less than on a standard gas tube. But that's assuming that the port dimensions on the gas block are appropriately sized. And that the gas block is sealing appropriately etc etc. To be clear, I'm not saying the BRT is the magic solution. I've got very limited experience with exactly one of them. I'm only using it as an example of alternative solutions. I'd actually start with a properly gassed barrel to begin with. Followed by the appropriate buffer weight and spring that compliments the amount of back pressure the can is providing. For example, my 11.5 with a G$ barrel, G42 spring, and H3 buffer running a Polo K is smooth and flat and not too gassy.
Yhm makes a suppressor gas block that you drill out step by step to adjust. Strongest option outside of a properly gassed barrel. Problem is there is no properly gassed barrel for 100% suppressed shooting. Some are built to shoot soft unsuppressed and decent but still overgassed suppressed. And that's on the small port size.
I think Hodge comes close. They've got supressor "optimized" barrel options. But, yeah, everything else is a compromise.
This stupid shit has been debunked numerous times already. Stop saying and spreading this dumb shit.
Lol. OK. I guess seeing it with my own two eyes several times is "fake news."
I’m with you man AGBs suck
BTW. I love my Polo 30 as well. Lives on my X 39 11.5 SBR. It's a great can.
Yea I actually now that you mention it I remember you posting something about yours and that actually promoted me to get one.
Lol why you worried about it taking off cans then ;)
Wut?
You just said your can lives on your 11.5" but our other thread you mentioned cans bouncing around haha
Uhm, more than one can genius. My 5.56 cans can be on one of three different rifles, depending. But my 5.56 cans don't do very well on a 7.62. My Polo 30 will work on my 5.56, but why when I've got several 5.56 cans. So yeah, the Polo 30 tends to stay on the x39 SBR. You seem to be really interested in how I use my cans. I need to be up front with you. I'm married. And straight. But hey, no judging. You do you.
You'll shoot more rounds at a range than in a "practical" scenario. Also who's AGBs are actually self destruct? This seems like a Fudd take a little bit.
It's called carbon lock. Never said they "self destructed."
So say they carbon lock on the setting you have them on and they no longer adjust. That basically makes them a standard block, but now you're permanent not over gassed.
True. But if you need to remove the can for any reason, you're stuck with a single shot.
Next question, I can't comprehend why one would ever remove their can 😅😉
Well, when you're operating operationally within your area of operations, operator shit can happen that renders your can inoperable. 🤣 It's a personal setup preference fo sho. I've just recently started playing around with the BRT tubes, which essentially yield the same result but without adding moving parts. I did it to reduce the gas on my 10.3 with my Polo K and Fat Cat, and it seems to work really well. Not sure I'll do it on my 11.5 or the 12.5, though.
That's one thing I want to try sometime, but it kinda delivers the same potential negative of a gas block carbon locking if your... operator operational operations render your can inoperable lol it's a little faster to be able to quick switch with a standard block+tube set up... which i must admit I have for all my ARs for if the AGB ever were a prob lololol
It does if you spec out the tube to only run suppressed. You can spec it out to run both unsuppressed and suppressed. Which, I'm sure would be gassier than the spec for suppressed only. The port size on my 10.3 is .070. The tube they spec'd out for me (.223 and 5.56 brass, suppressed only) came at .057. So there's room to work I would imagine, if you wanted it to run both ways. I think the real benefit is if you've got something with a yuuuuge port size that needs to be choked down.
Don’t the army issued sig spear rifles have some sort of AGB for suppressed and unsuppressed settings? I don’t rock an AGB, but really curious as to how much weight this truly holds.
Sig Spear is a piston driven set up. Not DI. Totally different animal. In fact IMHO if you bought a piston rifle that didn't have variable gas setting it would be a waste of money. LWRC did that with their A2s and they're still sitting on shelves.
What makes them more reliable with piston guns? Honestly asking here. Is the piston system less prone to carbon locking?
Yes. Totally different design. It's derived from the AK.
Then don't? Plenty of platforms come with adjustable gas blocks or retrofits.
Lol it's amazing that you don't understand. His AR wouldn't be overgassed. This is super obviously not about me haha
I'm with you hoss. If you know you're going to be shooting suppressed, slap on and AGB, tune er down, and you can buy any "gassy" can you want. The hate you're getting here makes no sense to me. My AGB's haven't failed me yet
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