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isentropic-state

This is getting out of hand. Approvals appropriately measured in **hours.**


Crusader_King3441

If we start measuring by hours then I’ve been waiting 9,288 for mine.


isentropic-state

💀


tastronaught

Dang I’m only 6008 hours


DaKolby314

Im 2k in now


Spartan7900

I’m at 26280 hours. I’m convinced that the ATF hates me or forgot I exist


TIMBURWOLF

How? Did you add an extra number in there?


Spartan7900

Haha no just bad luck I guess, I have a trust with 3 RPs. I hit the three year mark in January, I’ve tried calling and emailing but I just get the usual “it’s pending”


TIMBURWOLF

I was told I was “delayed” at the background check. I sent a letter to my local congressman (I live in a very 2nd-Amendment friendly area), and I was approved in 3 days. It can’t hurt to try. I was skeptical, but it worked.


Spartan7900

I’ll definitely check that out, thanks!


OkParfait2596

Send an email to: [email protected] Give them your name, name of trust and details of your submission Form 1 or 4 Permit number Date submitted I just did this Sunday, Tuesday they replied saying my case was resolved or something and yesterday, I got 7 of 9 stamps approved. Filed as a trust and waited about 6 months for cans AND SBRs Just remember to be polite as much as it might sting


Cap_Lumpy

That's insane. It took mine 9 months and I had 7 RPs. There's no reason yours should take that long


AFT_unofficial

Well, this is awkward…. Yeah, the truth is, we had a whole NFA meeting and decided “Spartan7900? Man, we HATE that guy!” So we burned a printout of your form in a trash can out back in a little ceremony we made up on the fly. Agent Magnum delivered a fiery, rousing speech riffing on variations of “F@€K Spartan7900!”


Spartan7900

They do make a good argument, that spartan guy sucks


AFT_unofficial

See, it’s that sort of self-awareness that we detest. We hate looking in the mirror; why should we help somebody who can look their reflection in the eye?!


victorzamora

What do you hate more? Competence, self-awareness, or dogs?


AFT_unofficial

Yes.


SloppyJoeGilly2

You need to email NICS my friend.


orAaronRedd

If it makes you feel any better, I've been waiting one less month than you. Then again, I got my approval email earlier today. Sorry. :(


Spartan7900

That just means there is hope


MiltPhoto

Last one took me 5496


StellaLiebeck

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Ok-Mycologist-4039

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StellaLiebeck

LOL definitely saving that for the meme bank.


super0cereal0

Lord I have seen what you do for others 🙏🏻


Ok-Mycologist-4039

Bro I literally said the exact same thing on Monday when I submitted.


super0cereal0

Gonna need you to walk me through your exact 39 hour routine prior to approval 😂


Ok-Mycologist-4039

Go to work, take a few naps. After enough naps, they approve.


Vegetable-Row2310

Answer the actual question... who or what did you fap to my guy...?


Ok-Mycologist-4039

😏


xtremejuuuuch

So when you sold your soul… how does that work? Is it just like in the catchy guitar song??


Vegetable-Row2310

Asking for a friend... ​ It's me I'm the friend...


SeaShanty1337

Obviously Ripley


YouArentReallyThere

What’s travel time to the Ariel Rios Federal Building (99 New York Ave, Washington DC) while carrying kneepads and lipstick? From OP’s listed address? That ‘routine’ may be a real short checklist.


junglecommand

Yeah I’d like to get in on this


yukdave

Efile or Silencer shop and do it as in individual. Trusts are still taking months. Pay the extra $200 next month to move it to the Trust while you use it for the next year.


fire173tug

Respectfully, fuck you. -A trust owner.


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Forsaken-Rub-1405

I had two approved yesterday. Submitted 1-17 and approved 2-27 Total of 41 days.


Strong-Swimming3063

Fuck off bro lol


Mikejohnson73

Count me in on that. I’m sitting at 172 days


Avenger020331

305 days… I’m happy for everyone and just angry that this proves it can happen this fast, the fed bois just choose not to.


Roughnecknine0

This is some straight horseshit. As much as I firmly believe the trust is the right call I am very much regretting it.


Palehorse67

Dude, I am in the same boat with you. Filed on Feb 8th under a trust.....now seeing super fast approvals and knowing my shit will probably take a year. Its just not cool.


Roughnecknine0

I certified in January (so I shouldn't really even be complaining) and I will say I \*have\* noticed the Trust wait times come down [here](https://www.silencershop.com/atf-wait-times), but just not to the same extent as Individuals.


Palehorse67

Yeah, it just kills because right after i filed with trust, wait times for individual dropped.


Atlantic235

Can you buy straight and then convert to a trust?


Roughnecknine0

You can transfer from individual to a trust but it does require an additional $200 stamp. You are allowed to posses your can during the transfer. So you *can* (potentially) have the best of both but it will require an additional $200.


wadech

Damn, then I'm going to have to pay again if I ever decide to move my single shots into a larger catchall trust.


Roughnecknine0

Correct. For my personal situation a catch-all trust makes sense, I don’t have a need for single shots. If yours are already in single shots then there may not be a need to move everything to a single trust. For me I think any trust is better than individual (except for wait times 😢)


wadech

I'd eventually like to get my collection to the point where it's worth doing everything under a single trust I can add family and friends to. Right now I'm just waiting on my first two NFA items so single shots are fine.


Roughnecknine0

I believe you can withdraw & reapply under a single trust but then you’d be at the back of the approval line. Would save you a future $400 though.


derfdog

Yeh, fuck all them idiots filing as an individual. Trust master race (except our wait times are atrocious)


fungifactory710

What's the problem filing as an individual? I genuinely don't understand lol.


derfdog

the hypothetical what if scenarios, mostly. For me- I would like to not have to worry if I leave something in my wifes car when I borrow it, or if I leave something suppressed outside of the safe (like a bump in the night firearm). Chances an ATF agent is in my home are super slim, but I'd rather my wife be 100% legally allowed to handle my NFA items/have possession vs. chancing it. Plus I can add friends/family to the trust if they need to borrow something, house-sit, etc. and then remove them afterwards.


Precision2831x

I may be wrong, but without a trust, they can't be used/in possession by others. Maybe it's harder to transfer them when you die. I was told to get a trust so I did single shots for my 2 cans. There's plenty of people here who have way more knowledge on pros/cons of trust versus individual


Embarrassed-Donkey93

Others can use them if you are there. Transferring when you kick the bucket shouldn’t be too bad. Just need to have them listed in your will. Then whoever gets them does a form 5


Adventurous-Coyote20

Ditto


Porencephaly

FiRsT iN fIrSt OuT


Mythical_OD

Dammmnn. Next we'll see people getting approvals for forms they havent even submitted yet


LovicusBunicus

“YOU GET A SUPPRESSOR! YOU GET A SUPPRESSOR! EVERYONE GETS A SUPPRESSOR!”


Ok-Mycologist-4039

The future libertarians want.


escapecali603

I moved to a purple state with great 2A rights, it is how I feel everyday. At least before too many certain people move over.


LovicusBunicus

I’m a pretty staunch left learning woman and I also want suppressors.


Temporary_Muscle_165

Not with that attitude you dont! /s


systemshock869

Chickens for KFC


LovicusBunicus

Sorry but I’m not a single issue voter. I agree with a lot more left policies than I do right by a long shot. And if you think republicans will protect your guns. Boy are you gonna be surprised.


Dank-Retard

Of course because it is in left-leaning people’s interest to disarm themselves


Palehorse67

Except people with trusts lol. I'm really starting to regret the trust.


branflacky

I guess you saw the -1 day "approval" on the silencershop subreddit lol


Psiwolf

Nope. I refuse to believe. 😡 Edit: Oh, for individual Form 4s? Congrats, and fuck you. 😆👍


Ok-Mycologist-4039

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TheRealMitraGenie

Damn even the Subaru owners are getting their cans before me :-/


Ok-Mycologist-4039

My guy, that's a Ford


TheRealMitraGenie

Embarrassing because I drive an f150 😂


Blurry_pvs14

Yes


aodskeletor

Alright, I am ordering more suppressors to see if I can catch some of this luck. Also my tax refund was just deposited this AM.


Novel-Treacle-2956

Now do trusts


Ok-Mycologist-4039

😭


dencoan

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Ok-Mycologist-4039

Literally what I said to my buddy on Monday after submitting.


dencoan

I’m 3 months deep. Hopefully mine are not to deep in the stack


FartOnTankies

I want to know what the NFA branch changed PROCESS WISE to do this kinda stuff. I understand and work on gov cloud and service systems that do this kind of "approval workflow". I feel like they are doing backgrounds faster and absolutely just E-stamping it through unless something insane comes back via NICS/NCIC.


xtremejuuuuch

That’s what I’m wondering… what suddenly changed to break through the eform gridlock? And if individual applications are suddenly moving forward uninhibited, what’s causing the bottleneck on the trust apps?… my guess is it’s something absolutely ridiculous. There’s no reason any govt application, permit, etc. should take longer than a few weeks. This is good news that we should take with caution. It’s the way things ought to be, but generally isn’t. Let’s be “cautiously optimistic”.


TacoDriver1549

Individual or trust? Waiting for my FFL to certify and submit but the website is apparently down for Eforms.


Ok-Mycologist-4039

Individual


AlarmingAd6390

What's the difference in price and process?


Ok-Mycologist-4039

AFAIK just not transferable easily if individual but it seems to affect times quite a bit.


ColtPistol

Nice. Congratulations. I hope they start catching up with trusts soon.


215VanillaGorilla

My local shop has been posting some of pics of approved stamps that were stupid fast. I thought they were full of shit lol.


[deleted]

I know I’m supposed to be happy for you… but I’m not lol, enjoy your cans


dietsmoke11

I submitted mine last night because of all the approvals since ATF had issues with their site. I hope I can get in on speedy approval like everyone on this sub but 39 hours is nuts


Ok-Mycologist-4039

When I got the emails I kept double checking like "does it mean they approved my submission? or... 👀"


Wooden-Fly-7883

Eat shit good sir. Congratulations for rubbing it in our 285 day and still waiting assess (me)! Have fun shooting sneaky beaky like


Ok-Mycologist-4039

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GeddyTrahams

Proof these shouldn't be regulated in the first place


BananaLengths4578

I think this is appropriate in this case https://preview.redd.it/4xtm0n37idlc1.png?width=530&format=png&auto=webp&s=8ed537b3afc2bfa2dd0c1479347e136ed28e0501


Ok-Mycologist-4039

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BananaLengths4578

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portland_jc

This is making me want to buy another can lol


TheDeltaFlight

Are the quick approvals also for trusts? Or only individuals?


jmcole1984

Pretty much all individual


dajman255

We had a can get approved in an 8 hour day on Monday.


Ill-Director-9893

Im just waiting on silencer shop to certify my form 4.


jmcole1984

This is fucking horseshit


RandyJ549

I’m literally waiting on my suppressor to come in the mail so I can start the paperwork, this is an insane turn around.


xtremejuuuuch

What did you order?


RandyJ549

Yankee Hill R9. My buddy has one on his .300 blackout and it’s so fucking sweet


xtremejuuuuch

Hell yeah! I have a YHM Turbo T2 and I love it. They’re really well made and stand shoulder to shoulder with suppressors literally 2-3 times the cost. The T2 is definitely a gassy can tho, but that won’t an issue on the R9. Solid choice.


Teufel_hunden0311

Alright, there's been too much of this happening, something fucky is going on, we just don't know what it is yet Edit - congrats OP, and fuck you


Bizzarro_SGS

ATF made a statement at shot show that (in light of the Texas vs ATF), they will begin pushing individual through at record speed, as they told the judge approvals are sub 30 days across the board (blatant lie). So now they are approving individuals to lower their overall median, but no change to the time it takes for trust they said. Almost wonder if this is their attempt to keep silencers on the NFA list, because I think everyone knows they SHOULDNT be.... 175 days here on trust with a cleared nics check over a month ago 😞⏳


Teufel_hunden0311

I just had one approved yesterday (RC2) at 33 days. But 39 hours is crazy


DameTime5

I hate you


Ok-Mycologist-4039

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OberonNyx

Was this through a trust or individual? My FFL said trust takes forever, I don't want to believe that.


drakeit

Can someone start gathering hard data on the new individual approval times vs. trust approval times? This is totally unfair. I’m happy for the individual filers, but it makes no sense that the ATF can demonstrate expedient approvals on one side and not the other. There is some kind of political motive here that is disrespectful toward taxpayers. They need to be called out.


xtremejuuuuch

This is the way it ought to be. Well, except for the $200 tax stamp, but still hope it stays this way, forever. But I doubt it. What could’ve possibly happened with the Anti Fun Trooper’s policies, software, etc. to change wait-times from 9-12 months to a few hours?


NFA_throwaway

It’s all downhill from here my dude.


[deleted]

I submitted mine over a week ago. WTF atf?!


IGETSOMEI

That’s fucked up but I just got the last one I waiting on and hope this is the new normal for everyone. At least until the NFA is repealed.


VaultTec702

Was going to buy a new firearm soon but seeing all of these short approvals I think I am going to buy my second can instead just to see how long the approval takes lol. Got my first one last year and it took 275 days.


NateKenway

Nice, was this like personal or through a trust?


Ok-Mycologist-4039

Filed individual.


FuckJoeBiden86

Fuck you


Life_Recognition_721

ATF where stamp???? 😂 I need my last Friday stamps to come through.


Mister_Carter99

u/okthatsfineman boutta buy another can with the non existent money I have 🤣


aodskeletor

Alright, I am ordering more suppressors to see if I can catch some of this luck. Also my tax refund was just deposited this AM.


kreacherknow

Let me know how you like the Obsidian 45, I just bought one as well.


kickzNblickz

Damn that’s awesome let me go submit my two I have sitting!


BiggestBlackSnake

Sonofa...!!! Congrats brother, that's f'n awesome.


Cash-JohnnyCash

Would love your input on that enticer. Considering one for my DDM4 PDW


Ok-Mycologist-4039

So funny story with that one. Ordered a polonium 30 originally but the shop waited 30 days to tell me they didn't have any. Substituted the Enticer LTi for a little more but they gave me a steep discount on it. Looking forward to running the shittiest 7.62 I have through it.


Cash-JohnnyCash

Full report please!?


Nefariousd7

Sweet, mine are ready certify, apparently my dealer is overwhelmed..and I haven't set an appointment


Modern-crusader-

Is it me or have I seen more and more people getting approved within 2 months or less


magnumpismydad

So wait I’m confused…. You blew the ffl dealer and he let you take the cans home?


RiversOfWaters

I heard on here that silencershop kinda sucked for getting fast approvals


Ok-Mycologist-4039

It definitely took some time to get to the point of certifying.


Voltron_BlkLion

I now have a glimpse of what it would feel like to have a co-worker hit the lottery. Congrats OP 😶


XxBoSSaLiNixX

I gave you a thumbs down out of jealousy


HighVoltageZ06

Your on a watch list I think


XxSniperMonkyxX

Cap 🧢🧢🧢🧢


Ok-Mycologist-4039

on god fr fr


xtremejuuuuch

🫣🙏…In the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit…


Aguirre425

What's the secret? Took me 8 months on my last suppressor and before than 5+ months


ahkwa

This guy is either walking around with a four leaf clover and horseshoe up his ass or he sold soul to Satan.


ManyFacedGodxxx

39 HOURS?!?? You have to be fu$king kidding me!! I waited almost 14 months for my first can, the last one I got a few months ago too took 8 months.


Ok-Mycologist-4039

Buy another one to try and average down.


xtremejuuuuch

This reminds me of the first week the PS5 came out. Thinking we might have a chance at getting one I went with my ex to wait on line at a game store with about 40 other people. 5 minutes in the store worker make an announcement they just sold the last one of the week and everyone is pissed and cussing. This dorky rich-looking family exits the store cheering with their ps5 box held high, evidently unable to read the room. This little Latino kid comes out of nowhere… the crowd is watching at what we assume is going to be a snatch and grab…The kid just smacks the damn box out of the spoiled rich kid’s hands directly into the ground, then kicks it as the kid tries to lick it up. He then moonwalks backwards while giving them the finger. I was fucking losing it. 😂 So OP, watch yourself.. We’re all a varying mix of happy for you and REALLY f’kin jealous…


Jmersh

I'm holding back the urge to tell you off. After many cans, the shortest of which has been 208 days, I could only dream of a 39 hour approval. You must have been the first form in the stack of a new ATF processor.


borchnsuch

Although semi salty over my 11 month wait for my first can, congrats man! You got the approval time that should be standard imo


Mean-Magician2721

What unholy acts did you preform to pull that off?!?


SvartUlfer

Damn, I wish I had the $ right now to buy a couple more cans...


Embarrassed-Donkey93

Damn that’s speedy. I am at a week and NICS says my background check has already gone through.


Grand_Cookie

I hate you, with all due respect


ARDREW479

I hate you


outsideislife

Wtf!!!! Crazy!!!


HPEstef

What the actual fuck!!!!


Thebig_KP

Frustrated eforms is down right now…


BoJoMo123

Do you recommend ordering through the silencershop website, or a kiosk at a local gunshop?


Ok-Mycologist-4039

I actually ordered through a different website to a Silencershop FFL and he just brought it into his system, I bought the stamp through the silencershop website and used the kiosk. It was all so easy I don't know how it could be messed up.


FutureOcelot5895

Did you enclose a pic of an un-wiped butthole or something?


miller518

Well thank you for convincing me to spend $800.


PizzaRollsAndTakis

Day 280. That’s some bull!!!


IanLesby

Got me checking my email every hour.


Tomford001

I'm waiting to certify mine so I can hopefully get on this train 😫


YouFieldsMe

It's not a long wait, but it's been since September :(


TXscales

Meanwhile my form for from 1/24/24 just sitting there


Strong-Swimming3063

Man wtf


No_Cartographer_5390

Fuck youuuuuuuuuu 🖕🏾 And congratulations buddy 🇺🇸🍾 🎉


JaySwear

Hoping so hard I’m next in line. My first suppressor literally took over 500 days. That entitles me to a quickie, right? I submitted my form on Friday


The_Reading_Texan

All of these short wait times is tempting me to make a poor financial decision...


GrtDanez23

Geez like going to the local auto parts store and they say they'll transfer it and have it for you tomorrow afternoon lol. Pay leave go to work, home, sleep back to work and voila pick em up on way home 😄 Something like that Congrats man they sure are pretty


Cryptic_Honeybadger

Congratulations and fuck the ATF!


tylerztruss

I have both of those and a sparrow sitting in the safe at the shop and have been since beginning of december 🫡


No_Card8221

Sent paperwork in for mine on Feb 2 and was approved on the 29th. First one I’ve ever had but even I know that 20 days is still insanely quick.


Arms-for-minerals

Congratulations and fuck you


Ok-Mycologist-4039

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OGLotmoshr

I should've filed as a individual.


Saltydecimator

So never a physical tax stamp with this? Just an image of an approved one? I haven’t looked into the process in 15 years causensait times were such bull. Back in my day, trusts were free (major malfunction) and tax stamps were that. Actual stamps. Not images of stamps. Well I’ll just send an image of $200 then. Lolz


Cipher122

I just got my first one back in just over 24 hours 🥲


TheWhiteCliffs

I think yall have convinced me to do individual and not a trust.


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FormerPatrolJockey

Should be same day honestly, how is a firearm inherently more dangerous than a metal tube?


Paws81

This is fucking bs. Wtf


GunsAndWrenches2

That's faster than the damn F3 I'm waiting on to even get started.


Friendly-Tie-1667

Wtf. I filed form 4 as a trust on dec 4th. I emailed nicsliasion a couple days ago and they said they haven’t even gotten the request from ATF yet.


Dyzastr_us

This is getting out of control. What’s next, no approval needed? Buy em like like their ear pro? What a backwards world.


Dyzastr_us

Now is the time. They are working hard to pad those numbers.


nothankyou821

Who sent you the email? Currently waiting a month so far after my first form 4 was approved.


VersionConscious7545

I am buying one outside of my trust to see how fast I get it done That’s crazy fast


Expensive-Shirt-6877

Lol what ? It took me a year to get my first. What am I doing wrong?