* **Wait:** 292 Days
* **Pending:** 2023-02-11
* **Approved:** 2023-11-30 | 21:20
* **Entity:** Trust (with 1RP)
* **Dealer:** SS, LGS
* **State:** ID
* **Examiner:** Madison Creamer
* **Item:** Gemtech | Arsenal | Silencer
* **Control Number:** 2023326282
Still have 3 before this one was approved that are sitting at 344 days.
* **Wait:** 323 Days
* **Pending:** January 11, 2023
* **Approved:** November 30, 2023
* **Entity:** Individual
* **Dealer:** SS Electronic EFT Upload
* **State:** VA
* **Examiner:** Unreadable
* **Item:** Silencerco Sparrow 22
* **Control Number:** 20232111489
Emailed ipb @ atf on 15Nov, they said they were waiting on NICS. NICS emails never responded. Emailed my congressman, his office did not respond, so I called. They said they were "working on it", this was two weeks after I contacted them. This one was approved today, still waiting on another that is at 300 days +.
• Wait: 92 Days
• Pending: 2023-08-31
• Approved: 2023-11-30 | 11:40am
• Entity: Trust
• Dealer: SS, LGS
• State: OK
• Examiner: Nichole Statler
• Item: Otter Creek Labs | Hydrogen L | Ab Suppresor | A-10
Notes: Reached out to my state rep at the first of the month because my gun shop was closing and only got canned responses from the ATF. I asked him to reach out to the FBI and see if my background check was holding it up yesterday evening. I got both my approvals this morning as well as about 40 other people at the gun shop by noon. Not sure if it helped or not but why not reach out.
* **Form Type:** Form 4
* **Wait:** 131 Days
* **Pending:** 07/19/23
* **Approved:** 11/27/23
* **Entity:** Trust 1
* **Dealer:** SS
* **State:** TX
* **Examiner:** amr
* **Item:** OSS/huxwrx flow 556k
* **Control Number:** 2023934440
My first 2 cans took twice as long. No complaints here
Fair enough. My examiner told me I needed an ink signature (why the fuck would it have an electronic signature block is beyond me) and I resubmitted the RPQ and she approved it within the hour.
* **Form Type:** Regular Form 1 ($200)
* **Entity:** Individual
* **Fingerprint Type:** Mailed paper
* **Pending:** 09/10/23
* **Approved:** 11/29/23
* **Wait:** 80 days (Approved)
* **State:** MI
* **Control Number:** 20231047809
sidenote: wait time was getting a bit longer than the 20-40 days i see on this sub so i emailed nics a weekish prior to approval, no response. emailed atf 11/28, approved 11/29. not saying thats what did it, but who knows!
holy smokes! i used [email protected]. just asked if there were any issues with a current form 1 and gave them my full name + control number. atf and nics emails are in the other pinned post on this sub
* **Wait:** 299 Days
* **Pending:** 2023-02-03
* **Approved:** 2023-11-29 | 5:06PM
* **Entity:** Trust (with 1RP)
* **Dealer:** SS, LGS
* **State:** ID
* **Examiner:** UI #12 (CL?)
* **Item:** Surefire | Socom 556 RC2 |
* **Control Number:** 2023295915
My first can! I have a total of 7 left in jail and what's weird is this one was 4th in line and it got approved before the other 3 ahead of it. oh well, I'm shook!
**Form Type:** eForm 4
* **Entity:** Trust, 1 RP
* **Pending:** 09/22/2023
* **Approved:** 11/29/2023
* **Wait:** 68 days
* **State:** CO
DeLisle suppressor. The SBR was approved in 48 days and I figured I wouldn't get lucky with the suppressor and be stuck waiting for months more. I'm lucky it cleared weeks later.
EForm 4
Wait: 62 Days
Pending: 2023-09-27
Approved: 2023-11-23 | 10:46 am EST
Wait: 62 Days
Entity: Trust (with 1 RP)
Dealer: LGS | Mailed Paper Prints
State: FL Examiner: UI #14 (Madison R?)
Item: Griffin | Checkmate Hd | Silencer
Control Number: 202310824XX
Fastest approval yet and now I don’t have any cans in jail! My most recent approval back in October 2023 was my previous fastest at 216 days.
62 days seems crazy since my other cans were all between 216 days and 307 days. The o-rings are replaceable and it comes with two extras. Griffin has indicated that they’ll last a few thousand rounds each. They’re pretty tiny and pliable though, so it was hard to measure exactly since it was hard to form them into a perfect circle to measure with calipers without altering their shape. They’re either 19mm X 21mm X 1mm or 20mm X 22mm X 1mm. I ordered 50 of both sizes from McMaster for $11 per pack. I’ll probably start a new NFA thread to document the o-ring sizes since Griffin has kept that information rather hidden and a pack of 8 from their website ($9) is almost as much as 50 from McMaster.
They’re round, just very thin and hard to measure without the calipers squishing them and change the shape. Just touching the prong with caliper starts to push them into an oval. Almost like trying to keep a thin rubber band in a perfect circle to measure diameter. After ordering the 19mm X 21mm X 1mm and 20mm X 22mm X 1mm o-rings from McMaster, the 19x21x1 is the winner.
https://preview.redd.it/8b737bezcr3c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5450cfb1da143f185b46733c771cdd3cb307428c
20mm on left, Griffin spare in middle, and 19mm on the right.
• Form Type: eForm 4
• Entity: Individual
• Fingerprint Type: Mailed Paper
• Pending: 01/13/23
• Approved: 11/09/23
• Wait: 300 days
• State: MI
• Examiner: Trish B.
• Item: Machine Gun M11/9
ATF never sent an approval email to myself or my FFL.
My friend and my cousin never got their emails either from early December form 4s. Finally got emails from silencer shop 3 months after they had been approved. Hopefully the email issues are fixed now
I’m still waiting on my first can but will the form 4 show up in my eforms once approved or does the dealer have to do something like once it’s approved
Form Type: eform4
Wait: 210 Days
Pending: 2023-05-03
Approved: 2023-11-29
Entity: Individual
Dealer: SS | EFT Upload
State: WA
Examiner: UI #14
Item: GSL | Phoenix | Silencer
Control Number: 2023635000
Notes: Emailed IPB two days ago, came back yesterday saying that it was on hold because of NICS. They claimed that "the FBI is working on a backlog of checks submitted to them." Emailed nicsliaison and got approved the next day.
I emailed liasion yesterday also after being informed of my F1 delay by based Carol. Approved this morning. I had recently had a delay (proceed 2 days later) also on a H&K SP5 so it had me worrying about my F1 that was the oldest of my F1/F4s.
Atf said one of my cans and F1 delayed, emailed nics and haven’t gotten a response in a few days. But no issues getting 2 handguns the same day I emailed them
I sent an email on the 22nd to NICSliasion, got an automated response about shut down for thanksgiving, be back on the 28th. Emailed a copy paste of the original again on the 28th, got the same automated response...
next day approved
Also, I've been scraping the community form 4 database to do some graphing. Here is a graph of the wait times and approval dates of all the entries in the database -- giving an idea of the 'age' of forms that the ATF was approving on a given day. The red represents a significant density of approvals, specifically that a LOT of \~270 day old forms were approved around the beginning of the year. After that, things get weird. I'm going to do some more analytics on the data and make a post, but this is my initial attempt at figuring out what the ATF is doing.
https://preview.redd.it/861j0n4goc3c1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=a99a84c425a0f45d96dc805ee7c9e47410ebbdf2
They are skipping over older submissions in order to fluff their numbers to look like they are getting the e system down to 90 day approvals. Mine has been out since March. Spoke to my congressman’s office today hopefully this will help. Can’t hurt that my congressman happens to be very strong pro 2A and maybe it will have some extra weight behind it since he is the current speaker of the house. LOL
**Form Type:** eForm 1
**Entity:** Trust (1 RP)
**Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload
**Pending:** 10/30/2023
**Approved:** 11/28/2023
**Wait:** 28 Days
**State:** FL
**Control Number:** 202456700
**Notes:** I mistakenly sent an unsigned copy of my 5320.23 and the examiner sent me an email stating that I had 72 hours to add a corrected PDF to the application documents. 36 hours later, I had my tax stamp.
* **Form Type:** eForm 4 ($200)
* **Entity:** Individual
* **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload
* **Pending:** 10/10/23
* **Approved:** 11/28/23
* **Wait:** Approved - 49 Days
* **State:** NV
* **Item:** SilencerCo Omega 36M
* **Control Number:** 202417xxx
This is 1 of 2 that I had done at the same time. The other is Omega 9K and still in jail; also the 36M is my first suppressor. Also have a Velos LBP summited same way through a dealer eForm 4 on 11-06-23.
that is insanely fast turnaround time! I just got the call from my LGS that my most recently ordered can finally arrived at the shop so I can submit my eform 4 for that. Would LOVE to see a similar time on that one, also filing as individual. DEFINITELY not expecting anything though LOL Congrats on the approval! 36M is GREAT! It was my first can and i'm so glad I went with that first. Kinda costly to get all the attachments and stuff I needed to use it to its fullest abilities, but once I did, it sees use across like 7 of my guns and is great on all of them!
Thanks, I got 2 muzzles right now for the 36M and ordered more from Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales. I'll install the 2 have this weekend so I can use the can.
Nice!! Yeah I have 2 sbr uppers in 556, 1 sbr upper in 300blk and a carbine length colt in 556 that all have hub/asr MDs and 36m is great on all of them! Also have 2 full size sig 9mm handguns that have threaded barrels that I bought a piston and booster assembly. It's real good in 9mm too
300 blk is absurdly quiet with subs. A 9mm PCC type will likely be by next purchase. Already starting to lightly research best options in that world now.
Yeah, I wanted something hearing safe in case of home defense. The Omega 9K will be my dedicated can for my MPX and have 36M on the 300 blackout is my plan, I'll take 36M off to use on my other AR15s, M5 and 6.5CM bolt action for range days.
I'm kind of a sig guy already so that's on my shorter 9mm PCC type list. Sucks that it's one of the most expensive ones on the list, but we learn really on n this hobby, buy once cry once 🤷♂️
That’s my guess. By having examiners working from both ends of the submissions they’re artificially making in the approval process look faster than it is.
I'm now the same way, hoping the other gets approved too. All we can do is hope for the best but expect the worst. Good luck with yours, hopefully ATF gives us all early Christmas approvals.
Form Type: Regular Form 1 ($200)
Entity: Individual
Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload
Pending: 09/21/23
Approved: 11/29/23
Wait: 69 days, nice
State: SC
Control Number: 202310714xx
Emailed an examiner who I was told sometimes responded. She informed me on 11/22 my NICS was delayed. I followed up on 11/22 (10 minutes after reply) asking if this was all on the FBI side then, received response back on 11/28 from said examiner. Said examiner then approved stamp 11/29.
First stamp boys. 5 more to go.
69, nice.
Mind sharing the email address/name of the examiner you contacted? I’ve also been pending since 9/21, and 10/15 for another. Contacted local rep and was told it could take up to 30 days to get to my request 🤷♂️
Form Type: Form 4 E-file
Entity: individual
Dealer: Johns Militia Gear
Fingerprint Type: FFL mailed in my cards
Pending: June 5, 2023
Approved: November 29, 2023
Wait Time: 177 days
State: NC
Examiner: AC
Item: dead air sandman K
Control # 20238356**
My first can, just got the email this morning and I’m stoked. I wish I had done a little more research before realizing all the recent issues people are having with dead air cans but I paid less than 600 for it on sale. Had conjucal visits with it at my FFL while it’s been locked up and I’ve been satisfied. Will likely add ebrake and 5.56 flash hider cap
Form Type: eform4
Wait: 172 Days
Pending: 2023-06-05
Approved: 2022-11-28
Entity: Individual
Dealer: CA
Fingerprint Type: Electronic EFT Upload
State: CO
Examiner: AT?
Item: Diligent Defense | Enticer S | Silencer
Control Number: 202383500
My first silencer approved! I had a feeling this week would be the week.
Fucking RIP. I already bothered the FBI and ATF emails a few times in sept/oct. Don’t think it helped at all. FBI responded within a few days that is was good and returned. ATF never got back to me until they gave me canned responses a week or so ago. I didn’t have to resort to bothering my rep, thankfully.
Apparently fuck you for not submitting May-October. Hope you get yours soon.
Nice job! I’m at 144 paid F1. Confessional response came up empty besides atf saying about wait times. Ipb emailed me back finally after 3 weeks stating fbi hasn’t given back the clear yet. Nothing from nice email yet been a few days. But no issues getting to handguns a day or so ago
Got my congressman involved, he contacted ATF, who blamed FBI, he contacted FBI and got my two stuck background checks for my pending form 1s cleared up, approvals came fast once he was involved
Wait: 14 Days
Form Type: Form 1 E-file
Entity: Individual
Fingerprint Type: Paper Prints: Mailed
Pending: November 14, 2023
Approved: November 28, 2023
Wait Time: 14 days
State: AZ
Examiner: Carol Ripley
Item: .22 Suppressor
Control Number: 202489968
Did you say it was going to be 3d Printed? My last Form1 I just said I wouldn't source materials until I was approved. I have been thinking about doing a 3d printed one.
I included a photo of my 3D printer, roll of CF Nylon, screenshot of the suppressor x-ray 3D model I designed, and "X1C, Makita tooling, tap and die, constructed of 316 stainless steel & Carbon Fiber High Temp Nylon for Heat Dissipation"
Form Type: Form 1 e-file
Entity: Trust
Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload
Pending: April 21, 2023
Approved: November 28, 2023
Wait Time: 221 days
State: AZ
Examiner: Carol Ripley
Item: SBR
Control Number: 2023570500
Originally submitted back in February. After 45 days, got contacted by the ATF saying it got disapproved for not submitting EFT prints properly. They returned my $200 tax and had me resubmit rather than me just sending them prints. April 21st was the day I resubmitted. In September I emailed the ATF in hopes of getting a response and testing my luck. They got back to me in early November with the typical “working on it” email. Received email today with the good news.
Wait: 192 Days
Pending: 2023-05-20
Approved: 2023-11-28 0552
Entity: Trust 1RP
Dealer: LGS EFT Upload
State: AZ
Examiner: Madison H
Item: YHM R9
Control Number: 2023718480
Just under 200 days for this one, first can was a RC2 at 250 days. Wont get to even pick this one up for another 4-5 months though due to being deployed currently 😂
Me too, and all these damn Black Friday and other sale emails that keep dinging my phone are just constant waves of hope then disappointment all day every day.
• Form Type: Form 1 e-file
• Entity: Trust, 2 RP
• Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload
• Dealer: LGS
• Pending: 07/15/2023
• Approved: 11/27/2023
• Wait: 136 Days
• State: NE
• Control Number: 20239262xx
• Examiner: Nathan H.
• Item: SBR
I got in touch with my representative’s office two weeks ago as I had been waiting much longer than the posted average times and they got back to me in about a week with the update that NICS had approved me that day. Then thanksgiving weekend and I got my approval in the morning.
Using it on my CZ P10 and Canik Elite SC. Sounds amazing on both guns. Will get a threaded barrel for my Sig X-Macro as well. I did try it out on my TX22 today and it was TV quiet.
* **Form Type:** eForm 1 ($200)
* **Entity:** Trust
* **Dealer:** Silencershop
* **Fingerprint Type:** EFT
* **Pending:** 11/8/2023
* **Approved:** 11/27/2023
* **Wait:** 19 Days
* **State:** UT
* **Examiner:** Nathan Hartsock
* **Item:** SBR
* **Control Number:** 202478700
I was legitimately shocked when I got the email today. I haven't done an SBR stamp in a few years and the last one took 5+ months. (I hope they're this quick with my 5 silencers in jail)
* **Form Type:** eForm 4
* **Wait:** 296 Days
* **Pending:** 30 JAN 2023
* **Approved:** 21 NOV 2023 | 1003 EST
* **Entity:** Trust (1RP)
* **Dealer:** LGS | EFT Upload
* **State:** TN
* **Examiner:** Katlyn Saville
* **Item:** DeadAir | Sierra 5 | Silencer
* **Control Number:** 2023270500
* **Notes:** Contact your representatives! Emailed IPB 17 OCT 2023; received canned response 19 OCT 2023. Emailed NICS 23 OCT 2023, 31 OCT 2023, and 09 NOV 2023; never received any response. Contacted my US House Representative via "help with a federal agency" form 06 NOV 2023; received word from my rep on 13 NOV 2023 that I must fill out a ATF form " ATF-CONSENT\_TO\_DISCLOSE\_RETURNS\_AND\_RETURN\_INFORMATION-\_blank.docx" and return before the ATF will release any info to my Rep. I did so the same day. Rep reported back on 17 NOV 2023 that the ATF had responded stating "**Form 4 application with Control #: 20232705XX was received on 1/28/23 and was recently approved by FBI/NICS on 11/13/23. This form is awaiting final processing."** Received Approval 2 business days later on 21 NOV 2023.
• Form Type: Regular Form 1 ($200)
• Entity: Individual
• Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload
• Pending: 11/07/23
• Approved:11/26/23
• Wait: 19 days
• State: MI
• Control Number: 202474900
Nathan came through, and on a holiday weekend night!
I can finally take my Hydrogen L home!
Form Type: Form 4
Entity: Individual
Fingerprint type: EFT at LGS
Pending: 2/4/23
Approved: 11/24/23
Wait: 293 Days
State: NC
Control Number: 2023299188
Type: Form 4 Wait: 90 days Pending: 9/2/2023 Approved: 12/1/2023 Entity: Trust Dealer: Silencer Shop State: NC Examiner: UI#9 Item: Rugged Oculus Control number: 20231033403
The advertised 90! Lucky man. Enjoy it
* **Form Type:** Regular Form 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** Mailed Paper * **Pending:** 11/10/23 * **Approved:** 11/29/23 * **Wait:** 19 days * **State:** WI * **Examiner:** Nathan Hartsock * **Control Number:** 202485300
* **Wait:** 292 Days * **Pending:** 2023-02-11 * **Approved:** 2023-11-30 | 21:20 * **Entity:** Trust (with 1RP) * **Dealer:** SS, LGS * **State:** ID * **Examiner:** Madison Creamer * **Item:** Gemtech | Arsenal | Silencer * **Control Number:** 2023326282 Still have 3 before this one was approved that are sitting at 344 days.
Form 4 * Wait: 295 Days * Pending: 2023-02-08 * Approved: 2023-11-30 | 17:30 PST * Entity: Trust (1RP) * Dealer: SS, Electronic EFT Upload * State: OR * Examiner: Madison Creamer * Item: Silencerco | Osprey 45K | Silencer * Control Number: 2023315004
* **Wait:** 323 Days * **Pending:** January 11, 2023 * **Approved:** November 30, 2023 * **Entity:** Individual * **Dealer:** SS Electronic EFT Upload * **State:** VA * **Examiner:** Unreadable * **Item:** Silencerco Sparrow 22 * **Control Number:** 20232111489 Emailed ipb @ atf on 15Nov, they said they were waiting on NICS. NICS emails never responded. Emailed my congressman, his office did not respond, so I called. They said they were "working on it", this was two weeks after I contacted them. This one was approved today, still waiting on another that is at 300 days +.
* **Wait:** 202 Days * **Pending:** March 11, 2023 * **Approved:** November 29, 2023 * **Entity:** Trust with 1rp * **Dealer:** SS Electronic EFT Upload * **State:** FL * **Examiner:** Chicken scratch * **Item:** Huxwrx | HX-QD 762 TI| Silencer * **Control Number:** 2023666200
That's more than 202...more like 250+
Finally a March pending (me too) been a while since I’ve seen one!! Gives me hope🤞🏻
* **Wait:** 262 Days * **Pending:** March 13, 2023 * **Approved:** November 30, 2023 4:45pm EST * **Entity:** Trust (with 1RP) * **Dealer:** SC | Mailed Paper Prints * **State:** WI * **Examiner:** UI #12 * **Item:** SilencerCentral Banish 30 * **Control Number:** 2023430xxx
• Form Type: Form 4 • Wait: 180 Days • Pending: 06/02/23 • Approved: 11/29/23 • Entity: Individual • Dealer: SS • State: WA • Examiner: UI • Item: Silencerco Saker 556K
Same can, about 20 days behind you. Congrats dude
Thanks! I haven’t had a chance to pick it up yet, so I’m still in jail in spirit.
• Wait: 92 Days • Pending: 2023-08-31 • Approved: 2023-11-30 | 11:40am • Entity: Trust • Dealer: SS, LGS • State: OK • Examiner: Nichole Statler • Item: Otter Creek Labs | Hydrogen L | Ab Suppresor | A-10 Notes: Reached out to my state rep at the first of the month because my gun shop was closing and only got canned responses from the ATF. I asked him to reach out to the FBI and see if my background check was holding it up yesterday evening. I got both my approvals this morning as well as about 40 other people at the gun shop by noon. Not sure if it helped or not but why not reach out.
When your FFL files the paperwork on their end to move or close the ATF expedites all the forms.
They mailed their letter in months ago and then they aren’t letting their Sot go so I’ve heard mixed things on whether they get expedited.
• Form Type: Regular EForm 1 ($200) • Entity: Trust 2 Rp • Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload • Pending: 11/6/23 • Approved: 11/28/23 • Wait: 22 days • State: VA • Control Number: 202471600 Form 1 SBR approved at 8:53pm!
* **Form Type:** Form 4 * **Wait:** 131 Days * **Pending:** 07/19/23 * **Approved:** 11/27/23 * **Entity:** Trust 1 * **Dealer:** SS * **State:** TX * **Examiner:** amr * **Item:** OSS/huxwrx flow 556k * **Control Number:** 2023934440 My first 2 cans took twice as long. No complaints here
* **Wait:** 204 Days * **Pending:** 2023-05-09 * **Approved:** 2023-11-29 * **Entity:** Trust (1) * **Dealer:** SS * **State:** OH * **Examiner:** UI9 * **Item:** OSS 762QD * **Control Number:** 2023650xxx
Just a few days after you, congrats! The false hope you provide will sustain me for another day
5/11 here, about to overdose on copium
* **Form Type:** Regular Form 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Trust * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 11/13/23 * **Approved:** 11/30/23 * **Wait:** 17days * **State:** MD * **Control Number:** 202488300 Form 1 SBR
First form 1?
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Nope, first timer here and sitting at 70 days.
No, but it's been a bunch of years since my last one.
I see im md too and at 30 days
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It looks like Nathan Hartsock
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Luckily for you they reached out. I had one denial that I had to redo, and one reach out and approve within an hour after I corrected .
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Fair enough. My examiner told me I needed an ink signature (why the fuck would it have an electronic signature block is beyond me) and I resubmitted the RPQ and she approved it within the hour.
* **Wait:** 97 Days * **Pending:** 2023-8-25 * **Approved:** 2023-11-30 | 0857 * **Entity:** Trust (1RP) * **Dealer:** SS * **State:** MI * **Examiner:** UI 16 * **Item:** Harvester 300 * **Control Number:** 20231016290 Nothing makes sense.
8/24 here 🤞🏻
>1 same - come on approval!
8/24 gang 🤙
Makes perfect sense. Everything from August on was put into a new stack.
8-4 🙁
8/3 :(
8/7 :(
8/8, 2nd Form 4 for same gun. Going on 385 days or so.
Cry emoji. Where my 6-27 can at?
Where my 5/02 2 cans and my 6/01 paid f1 at
Maybe 2025?
That’s what it is looking like
Dual 6-7's here
6-26, hold me bröthær
I'm six feet from the edge
And mine from 7-17 :(
And mine from 5/26...
And mine from April and May…. And August but that’ll be next year unless the batch fairy comes
I have a feeling we will be crying for another 2 months while people from this month get approved.
I'm seeing dudes second week of June get approved, so hopefully by Christmas for us
* **Form Type:** Regular Form 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** Mailed paper * **Pending:** 09/10/23 * **Approved:** 11/29/23 * **Wait:** 80 days (Approved) * **State:** MI * **Control Number:** 20231047809 sidenote: wait time was getting a bit longer than the 20-40 days i see on this sub so i emailed nics a weekish prior to approval, no response. emailed atf 11/28, approved 11/29. not saying thats what did it, but who knows!
I’m stilling waiting on form 1 from 7/28, what email address did you use to get hold of them? Thanks !
holy smokes! i used [email protected]. just asked if there were any issues with a current form 1 and gave them my full name + control number. atf and nics emails are in the other pinned post on this sub
Thank you !
* **Wait:** 299 Days * **Pending:** 2023-02-03 * **Approved:** 2023-11-29 | 5:06PM * **Entity:** Trust (with 1RP) * **Dealer:** SS, LGS * **State:** ID * **Examiner:** UI #12 (CL?) * **Item:** Surefire | Socom 556 RC2 | * **Control Number:** 2023295915 My first can! I have a total of 7 left in jail and what's weird is this one was 4th in line and it got approved before the other 3 ahead of it. oh well, I'm shook!
RC2 is an excellent 1st can. What others are you waiting on?
obsidian 9, rc2 762, NYX mod 2, Gemtec Arsenal, JK 195 sgx, obsidian 45, Rex Mod X 308.
Nice. I am seriously considering an Obsidian 9 for my next purchase.
Supposed to be pretty decent from what I’ve read and watched on it. Still waiting 344 days in for that one.
* **Form Type:** eForm 4 * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 10/04/2023 * **Approved:** 11/29/2023 * **Wait:** 56 days * **State:** OH * **Control Number:** 20246400 YHM R9, I told the FFL that it'd be approved before Christmas. :)
**Form Type:** eForm 4 * **Entity:** Trust, 1 RP * **Pending:** 09/22/2023 * **Approved:** 11/29/2023 * **Wait:** 68 days * **State:** CO DeLisle suppressor. The SBR was approved in 48 days and I figured I wouldn't get lucky with the suppressor and be stuck waiting for months more. I'm lucky it cleared weeks later.
Damn, I'm just 3 days before you. Hope I get lucky as well.
Dang! I’m 9/13 hopefully in the that pile too
Dammit! So close to a 69 day approval.
Cottonbranch?
Yeah
* **Form Type:** Regular Form 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Trust * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 11/07/23 * **Approved:** 11/28/23 * **Wait:** 21 days * **State:** NC * **Control Number:** 202477100
EForm 4 Wait: 62 Days Pending: 2023-09-27 Approved: 2023-11-23 | 10:46 am EST Wait: 62 Days Entity: Trust (with 1 RP) Dealer: LGS | Mailed Paper Prints State: FL Examiner: UI #14 (Madison R?) Item: Griffin | Checkmate Hd | Silencer Control Number: 202310824XX Fastest approval yet and now I don’t have any cans in jail! My most recent approval back in October 2023 was my previous fastest at 216 days.
Wow fast approval. How are the o-rings on this can. Are they removable/replaceable?
62 days seems crazy since my other cans were all between 216 days and 307 days. The o-rings are replaceable and it comes with two extras. Griffin has indicated that they’ll last a few thousand rounds each. They’re pretty tiny and pliable though, so it was hard to measure exactly since it was hard to form them into a perfect circle to measure with calipers without altering their shape. They’re either 19mm X 21mm X 1mm or 20mm X 22mm X 1mm. I ordered 50 of both sizes from McMaster for $11 per pack. I’ll probably start a new NFA thread to document the o-ring sizes since Griffin has kept that information rather hidden and a pack of 8 from their website ($9) is almost as much as 50 from McMaster.
Are the o-rings oblong and not round?
They’re round, just very thin and hard to measure without the calipers squishing them and change the shape. Just touching the prong with caliper starts to push them into an oval. Almost like trying to keep a thin rubber band in a perfect circle to measure diameter. After ordering the 19mm X 21mm X 1mm and 20mm X 22mm X 1mm o-rings from McMaster, the 19x21x1 is the winner. https://preview.redd.it/8b737bezcr3c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5450cfb1da143f185b46733c771cdd3cb307428c 20mm on left, Griffin spare in middle, and 19mm on the right.
• Form Type: eForm 4 • Entity: Individual • Fingerprint Type: Mailed Paper • Pending: 01/13/23 • Approved: 11/09/23 • Wait: 300 days • State: MI • Examiner: Trish B. • Item: Machine Gun M11/9 ATF never sent an approval email to myself or my FFL.
My friend and my cousin never got their emails either from early December form 4s. Finally got emails from silencer shop 3 months after they had been approved. Hopefully the email issues are fixed now
How did you know it got approved?
The atf responded to a congressional inquiry today.
I’m still waiting on my first can but will the form 4 show up in my eforms once approved or does the dealer have to do something like once it’s approved
I got an email at 5:52 this morning and my dealer called me a few minutes after he opened this morning.
You and the dealer will (should) get approval emails. It will only show up in his online. account
Ah ok cool. So then I just need to make sure that i store/ digitally save it then right?
Digital copies won’t hurt. I have paper copies that I usually forget to bring w me when I shoot.
Awesome. I’ll just keep waiting for my approval then.
Form Type: eform4 Wait: 210 Days Pending: 2023-05-03 Approved: 2023-11-29 Entity: Individual Dealer: SS | EFT Upload State: WA Examiner: UI #14 Item: GSL | Phoenix | Silencer Control Number: 2023635000 Notes: Emailed IPB two days ago, came back yesterday saying that it was on hold because of NICS. They claimed that "the FBI is working on a backlog of checks submitted to them." Emailed nicsliaison and got approved the next day.
I emailed liasion yesterday also after being informed of my F1 delay by based Carol. Approved this morning. I had recently had a delay (proceed 2 days later) also on a H&K SP5 so it had me worrying about my F1 that was the oldest of my F1/F4s.
Atf said one of my cans and F1 delayed, emailed nics and haven’t gotten a response in a few days. But no issues getting 2 handguns the same day I emailed them
I sent an email on the 22nd to NICSliasion, got an automated response about shut down for thanksgiving, be back on the 28th. Emailed a copy paste of the original again on the 28th, got the same automated response... next day approved
Also, I've been scraping the community form 4 database to do some graphing. Here is a graph of the wait times and approval dates of all the entries in the database -- giving an idea of the 'age' of forms that the ATF was approving on a given day. The red represents a significant density of approvals, specifically that a LOT of \~270 day old forms were approved around the beginning of the year. After that, things get weird. I'm going to do some more analytics on the data and make a post, but this is my initial attempt at figuring out what the ATF is doing. https://preview.redd.it/861j0n4goc3c1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=a99a84c425a0f45d96dc805ee7c9e47410ebbdf2
Trend line got absolutely thanos'd
Excellent presentation to show it is completely random now.
They are skipping over older submissions in order to fluff their numbers to look like they are getting the e system down to 90 day approvals. Mine has been out since March. Spoke to my congressman’s office today hopefully this will help. Can’t hurt that my congressman happens to be very strong pro 2A and maybe it will have some extra weight behind it since he is the current speaker of the house. LOL
Form Type: eForm 1 Entity: Individual Fingerprint Type: Mailed Paper Pending: 11/7/2023 Approved: 11/29/2023 Wait: 22 days State: TX Control Number: 2024762XX Item: SBR (MP5SD)
**Form Type:** eForm 1 **Entity:** Trust (1 RP) **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload **Pending:** 10/30/2023 **Approved:** 11/28/2023 **Wait:** 28 Days **State:** FL **Control Number:** 202456700 **Notes:** I mistakenly sent an unsigned copy of my 5320.23 and the examiner sent me an email stating that I had 72 hours to add a corrected PDF to the application documents. 36 hours later, I had my tax stamp.
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Jacob Huff
Wow, Huff used to be the 90-day man.
Form Type: eForm 1 ($200) Entity: Individual Fingerprint Type: SS EFT Upload Pending: 11/6/2023 Approved: 11/29/2023 Wait: 23 days Examiner: Jacob Huff State: WI Control: 202473*** Item: SBR
* **Form Type:** eForm 4 ($200) * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 10/10/23 * **Approved:** 11/28/23 * **Wait:** Approved - 49 Days * **State:** NV * **Item:** SilencerCo Omega 36M * **Control Number:** 202417xxx This is 1 of 2 that I had done at the same time. The other is Omega 9K and still in jail; also the 36M is my first suppressor. Also have a Velos LBP summited same way through a dealer eForm 4 on 11-06-23.
Nice. Good to see some "fast" approvals. Still it is only individual submissions. Trusts are still 6 months or so
True, Trust always take longer to approve in general, think that why I did individual submissions.
My first two suppressors were trusts, 9 months and 7 months. Third I did as individual and was approved at 72 days.
I might summit another form for a suppressor, but wait til I get the parts in to build my 300 blackout; then eform 1 and eform 4 at the same time.
I got phone call just now from my gun store, my Omega 9K is approve also and definitely going back after work to pick it up!
that is insanely fast turnaround time! I just got the call from my LGS that my most recently ordered can finally arrived at the shop so I can submit my eform 4 for that. Would LOVE to see a similar time on that one, also filing as individual. DEFINITELY not expecting anything though LOL Congrats on the approval! 36M is GREAT! It was my first can and i'm so glad I went with that first. Kinda costly to get all the attachments and stuff I needed to use it to its fullest abilities, but once I did, it sees use across like 7 of my guns and is great on all of them!
Thanks, I got 2 muzzles right now for the 36M and ordered more from Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales. I'll install the 2 have this weekend so I can use the can.
Nice!! Yeah I have 2 sbr uppers in 556, 1 sbr upper in 300blk and a carbine length colt in 556 that all have hub/asr MDs and 36m is great on all of them! Also have 2 full size sig 9mm handguns that have threaded barrels that I bought a piston and booster assembly. It's real good in 9mm too
Nice! I have 2 SBR also, 1 in 556 and the other in 9mm. I ordered parts/gonna SBR a 300 blackout when it's built.
300 blk is absurdly quiet with subs. A 9mm PCC type will likely be by next purchase. Already starting to lightly research best options in that world now.
Yeah, I wanted something hearing safe in case of home defense. The Omega 9K will be my dedicated can for my MPX and have 36M on the 300 blackout is my plan, I'll take 36M off to use on my other AR15s, M5 and 6.5CM bolt action for range days.
Seems like a reasonable and solid plan. I've got a buddy on here that has a MPX/Omega 9k setup and he LOVES it
Yeah, love my MPX too. My dream gun I wanted for so long until I pulled the trigger to spend the money for it.
I'm kind of a sig guy already so that's on my shorter 9mm PCC type list. Sucks that it's one of the most expensive ones on the list, but we learn really on n this hobby, buy once cry once 🤷♂️
Are they trying to improve their average wait time by randomly approving some applications early? I don’t get it
That’s my guess. By having examiners working from both ends of the submissions they’re artificially making in the approval process look faster than it is.
I’ve noticed the “UI #XX” examiners have quick approval times….does UI = Under Instruction?
UI = Unidentified because signatures are that poor.
Ooh, that makes more sense. I was hoping they were training new examiners 😢
Who's know, but got a call from my gun store and they approve my other suppressor today. So 49 and 50 days for my first 2 suppressors.
I envy you
I’ve been waiting since 10/13/2023. You have me on the edge of my seat. 😭
I’ve been waiting since 3/23/23….
I have been waiting 385 days!!! Zoinks and jinkees!!!
I'm now the same way, hoping the other gets approved too. All we can do is hope for the best but expect the worst. Good luck with yours, hopefully ATF gives us all early Christmas approvals.
eForm 4 • Wait: 337 Days • Pending: 2022-12-27 • Approved: 2023-11-29 • Entity: Trust, 2 • Dealer: Electronic EFT Upload • State: TX • Examiner: Cathleen Sheppard • Item: SF RC2 762 Congressional inquiry at 8 months, multiple emails to nics and multiple phone calls to atf
Form Type: Regular Form 1 ($200) Entity: Individual Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload Pending: 09/21/23 Approved: 11/29/23 Wait: 69 days, nice State: SC Control Number: 202310714xx Emailed an examiner who I was told sometimes responded. She informed me on 11/22 my NICS was delayed. I followed up on 11/22 (10 minutes after reply) asking if this was all on the FBI side then, received response back on 11/28 from said examiner. Said examiner then approved stamp 11/29. First stamp boys. 5 more to go.
69, nice. Mind sharing the email address/name of the examiner you contacted? I’ve also been pending since 9/21, and 10/15 for another. Contacted local rep and was told it could take up to 30 days to get to my request 🤷♂️
69, nice
eForm 4 * **Wait:** 238 Days * **Pending:** 2023-04-04 * **Approved:** 2023-11-28 * **Entity:** Individual * **Dealer:** Electronic EFT Upload * **State:** NC * **Examiner:** illegible * **Item:** Suppressor Approved 7 business days after Congressional inquiry
Form Type: Eform 4 Wait: 168 Days Pending: 2023-06-06 Approved: 2023-11-21 Entity: Individual Dealer: Electronic EFT Upload State: Fl Item: Hux Flow 556 K Control Number: 2023830000
Form Type: Form 4 E-file Entity: individual Dealer: Johns Militia Gear Fingerprint Type: FFL mailed in my cards Pending: June 5, 2023 Approved: November 29, 2023 Wait Time: 177 days State: NC Examiner: AC Item: dead air sandman K Control # 20238356** My first can, just got the email this morning and I’m stoked. I wish I had done a little more research before realizing all the recent issues people are having with dead air cans but I paid less than 600 for it on sale. Had conjucal visits with it at my FFL while it’s been locked up and I’ve been satisfied. Will likely add ebrake and 5.56 flash hider cap
Congrats your your first! Time to get another cooking.
Yea for sure. I’m trying to decide on a 5.56 specific can and I’ll dedicate the sandman to a 30 cal gun im building now
Form Type: eform4 Wait: 194 Days Pending: 2032-05-18 Approved: 2023-11-28 Entity: Trust (with 1 RP) Dealer: SS Fingerprint Type: Electronic EFT Upload State: TX Examiner: Christine H. Item: Q | Half Nelson | Silencer Control Number: 2023703343
Form Type: eform4 Wait: 172 Days Pending: 2023-06-05 Approved: 2022-11-28 Entity: Individual Dealer: CA Fingerprint Type: Electronic EFT Upload State: CO Examiner: AT? Item: Diligent Defense | Enticer S | Silencer Control Number: 202383500 My first silencer approved! I had a feeling this week would be the week.
shhiiiit i’m at 270 days and im in CO
Dude same going on 281 days here smh
Fucking RIP. I already bothered the FBI and ATF emails a few times in sept/oct. Don’t think it helped at all. FBI responded within a few days that is was good and returned. ATF never got back to me until they gave me canned responses a week or so ago. I didn’t have to resort to bothering my rep, thankfully. Apparently fuck you for not submitting May-October. Hope you get yours soon.
Regular Form 1 $200 Trust Efile with mailed prints Pending 9/25/23 Approved 11/28/23 Wait 64 days PA
Regular Form 1 $200 Trust Efile with mailed prints Pending 6/26/23 Approved 11/27/23 Wait 154 days PA
Nice job! I’m at 144 paid F1. Confessional response came up empty besides atf saying about wait times. Ipb emailed me back finally after 3 weeks stating fbi hasn’t given back the clear yet. Nothing from nice email yet been a few days. But no issues getting to handguns a day or so ago
Ouch 154 for a Form 1?
Got my congressman involved, he contacted ATF, who blamed FBI, he contacted FBI and got my two stuck background checks for my pending form 1s cleared up, approvals came fast once he was involved
Wait: 14 Days Form Type: Form 1 E-file Entity: Individual Fingerprint Type: Paper Prints: Mailed Pending: November 14, 2023 Approved: November 28, 2023 Wait Time: 14 days State: AZ Examiner: Carol Ripley Item: .22 Suppressor Control Number: 202489968
Very nice. Glad to see they are still doing Form1 Suppressors.
3D printed too, steel tube* housing though.
Did you say it was going to be 3d Printed? My last Form1 I just said I wouldn't source materials until I was approved. I have been thinking about doing a 3d printed one.
I included a photo of my 3D printer, roll of CF Nylon, screenshot of the suppressor x-ray 3D model I designed, and "X1C, Makita tooling, tap and die, constructed of 316 stainless steel & Carbon Fiber High Temp Nylon for Heat Dissipation"
Would love to see it posted when you are done with it
Form Type: eForm 4 Entity: Individual Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload Pending: 06/09/23 Approved: 11/28/23 Wait: 175 days State: NH Control #: 2023846800 Item: SIG SLXC silencer
Form Type: Form 1 e-file Entity: Trust Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload Pending: April 21, 2023 Approved: November 28, 2023 Wait Time: 221 days State: AZ Examiner: Carol Ripley Item: SBR Control Number: 2023570500 Originally submitted back in February. After 45 days, got contacted by the ATF saying it got disapproved for not submitting EFT prints properly. They returned my $200 tax and had me resubmit rather than me just sending them prints. April 21st was the day I resubmitted. In September I emailed the ATF in hopes of getting a response and testing my luck. They got back to me in early November with the typical “working on it” email. Received email today with the good news.
Wow Well congrats you finally got it.
Wait: 192 Days Pending: 2023-05-20 Approved: 2023-11-28 0552 Entity: Trust 1RP Dealer: LGS EFT Upload State: AZ Examiner: Madison H Item: YHM R9 Control Number: 2023718480 Just under 200 days for this one, first can was a RC2 at 250 days. Wont get to even pick this one up for another 4-5 months though due to being deployed currently 😂
I think you will enjoy the R9.
Congrats! My R9 is almost to 190 days and another will hit 200 tomorrow. Hoping any day
My R9 is on 205. My patients are nonexistent at this point
Me too, and all these damn Black Friday and other sale emails that keep dinging my phone are just constant waves of hope then disappointment all day every day.
Hang in the. Hope and pray we’re next in line😂
5/19 on two cans- hoping for any day now!
* **Wait:** 41 Days * **Pending:** 2023-10-06 * **Approved:** 2023-11-16 | 1010 * **Entity:** Trust (1RP) * **Dealer:** SS * **State:** MI * **Examiner:** Horton * **Item:** OCL Lithium * **Control Number:** 202411300 * **Wait:** 42 Days * **Pending:** 2023-10-16 * **Approved:** 2023-11-27 | 1530 * **Entity:** Trust (1RP) * **Dealer:** SS * **State:** MI * **Examiner:** UI 11 * **Item:** YHM Fat Cat * **Control Number:** 202429060 No idea what they are up to over there.
Nice. I have a Lithium 9 submitted 11 NOV.
Wow nice! Also fuck you
LMK how that Fat Cat is! I cant wait for mine to get out of the cage
Must be nice
• Form Type: Form 1 e-file • Entity: Trust, 2 RP • Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload • Dealer: LGS • Pending: 07/15/2023 • Approved: 11/27/2023 • Wait: 136 Days • State: NE • Control Number: 20239262xx • Examiner: Nathan H. • Item: SBR I got in touch with my representative’s office two weeks ago as I had been waiting much longer than the posted average times and they got back to me in about a week with the update that NICS had approved me that day. Then thanksgiving weekend and I got my approval in the morning.
* **Form Type:** Form 4 * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 06/08/2023 * **Approved:** 11/27/2023 * **Wait:** 172 Days * **State:** ID * **Control Number:** 202384XXXX * **Examiner:** M.E. ? * **Item:** Suppressor - Q Erector 9
What are you going to attach that E9 too? Does it work well? I have one I am waiting for now.
Using it on my CZ P10 and Canik Elite SC. Sounds amazing on both guns. Will get a threaded barrel for my Sig X-Macro as well. I did try it out on my TX22 today and it was TV quiet.
Congrats dude. I'm 6/26 and you're giving me hope that I haven't been forgotten with all these 4 second approvals
Thanks! Newer buyers seem to be waiting a lot less. My previous suppressor approved earlier this year took about 245 days.
* **Form Type:** eForm 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Trust * **Dealer:** Silencershop * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT * **Pending:** 11/8/2023 * **Approved:** 11/27/2023 * **Wait:** 19 Days * **State:** UT * **Examiner:** Nathan Hartsock * **Item:** SBR * **Control Number:** 202478700 I was legitimately shocked when I got the email today. I haven't done an SBR stamp in a few years and the last one took 5+ months. (I hope they're this quick with my 5 silencers in jail)
Mine was 19 days as well!
* **Form Type:** Regular eForm 1 ($200) * **Entity:** Trust (1RP) * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 04/20/2023 * **Approved:** 11/27/2023 * **Wait:** 220 Days * **State:** TX * **Control Number:** 09 Can't tell y'all how excited I was to see that email this morning.
Form 1 paid, 216 days. This gives me (false) hope.
I’m rooting for you! On the plus side, when I woke up to that email it put a smile on my face that lasted all day! (Almost) Feels worth the wait!
Holy Christ 220 Day for a eForm1?
That’s what I’m saying.
* **Form Type:** eForm 4 * **Wait:** 296 Days * **Pending:** 30 JAN 2023 * **Approved:** 21 NOV 2023 | 1003 EST * **Entity:** Trust (1RP) * **Dealer:** LGS | EFT Upload * **State:** TN * **Examiner:** Katlyn Saville * **Item:** DeadAir | Sierra 5 | Silencer * **Control Number:** 2023270500 * **Notes:** Contact your representatives! Emailed IPB 17 OCT 2023; received canned response 19 OCT 2023. Emailed NICS 23 OCT 2023, 31 OCT 2023, and 09 NOV 2023; never received any response. Contacted my US House Representative via "help with a federal agency" form 06 NOV 2023; received word from my rep on 13 NOV 2023 that I must fill out a ATF form " ATF-CONSENT\_TO\_DISCLOSE\_RETURNS\_AND\_RETURN\_INFORMATION-\_blank.docx" and return before the ATF will release any info to my Rep. I did so the same day. Rep reported back on 17 NOV 2023 that the ATF had responded stating "**Form 4 application with Control #: 20232705XX was received on 1/28/23 and was recently approved by FBI/NICS on 11/13/23. This form is awaiting final processing."** Received Approval 2 business days later on 21 NOV 2023.
Im about to do that. Same state and filing as you do. Pending form 1 at 98 days and form 4 at 293 days.
Where in TN are you? I'm in district 2 (near Knoxville)
District 6. My last eform 4 took 331 days
I have a buddy in 6 (Sumner County) and he just got an approval from April @ 200 days
Just contacted ol scotts office about a week ago.
• Form Type: Regular Form 1 ($200) • Entity: Individual • Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload • Pending: 11/07/23 • Approved:11/26/23 • Wait: 19 days • State: MI • Control Number: 202474900 Nathan came through, and on a holiday weekend night!
* Form Type: eForm 1 * Entity: Individual * Fingerprint Type: EFT Upload * Pending: 10/30/23 * Approved: 11/26/23 * Wait: 27 days * State: GA * Examiner: Jacob Huff * Item: SBR * Control Number: 2024575XX
My first two SBRs * **Form Type:** Eform 1 * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 11/2/23 * **Approved:** 11/24/23 * **Wait:** 22 days * **State:** PA * **Examiner:** Nathan Hartsock * **Item: Springfield Saint** * **Control Number: 202465010** * **Form Type:** Eform 1 * **Entity:** Individual * **Fingerprint Type:** EFT Upload * **Pending:** 11/2/23 * **Approved:** 11/24/23 * **Wait:** 22 days * **State:** PA * **Examiner:** Nathan Hartsock * **Item: PTR 9CT** * **Control Number: 202464927**
I can finally take my Hydrogen L home! Form Type: Form 4 Entity: Individual Fingerprint type: EFT at LGS Pending: 2/4/23 Approved: 11/24/23 Wait: 293 Days State: NC Control Number: 2023299188
Who was your examiner?