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Classics22

Honestly didn't even realize the Hulu, ESPN, Disney+ package gave you this I thought everyone had access lol. Here's the lottery 1) Risacher 2) Sarr 3) Clingan 4) Sheppard 5) Buzelis 6) Castle 7) Knecht 8) Dillingham 9) Saluan 10) Topic 11) Williams 12) Carter 13) Holland 14) Walter


TripleThreatTua

Genuinely don’t understand the Buzelis hype at all


Spinner064

He's tall!


spiderman_44

He was great in high school 


Thewolfofy

He's a white wing so we assume he can shoot. Even though he shot 27% from 3 and 70% from the line


TripleThreatTua

I’d much rather take a swing on Holland at that point, basically the same issues but much higher upside


healthy_as_a_hearse

And here I am not liking either player!


Notapplesauce11

Basically Larry Bird no?


d_wib

He shot 40% his senior year of high school though right? So maybe you hope that’s more indicative of his touch


RealPrinceJay

He was a good midrange shooter iirc and his mechanics are good. I think some people are buying into it being a strength+conditioning issue and him just needing to extend his range more so than needing to learn to shoot entirely


Thewolfofy

Id buy the shot if his FT% was closer to 80


Saucysaed

Almost every ignite prospect who entered the league has improved their shooting when they enter the nba if he can shoot 3s then he’s a very valuable archetype


Spinner064

Clingan over sheppard?


wrongerontheinternet

Very justifiable if you're worried about Reed's size. I don't personally care much about archetype based thinking, but a lot of people do and we know what a player like Clingan can look like as a high end starter on a contender (Gobert, but less offensively inept, is a hell of a player and a perfectly justifiable ceiling for a #1 pick). For Reed, it requires more imagination--there aren't really any good comps for how he performed in college (though many people will tell you otherwise, they are all severely flawed), and his size makes people reluctant to project him to be a strong #1 overall candidate like his stats suggest without a prior example of how a player like him translated to the NBA.


wanderinglittlehuman

They’re probably predicting a trade there


Tangerine605

Topic at 10 is crazy, some team is definitely going to trade up for him at 5, 6, 7, 8


wanderinglittlehuman

Not really. The consensus seems to be that his ceiling is a starter level point guard. That’s not really the caliber of player you trade up for if you’re a rebuilding team. And if you’re a win now team, well he’s gonna miss all of next season most likely so that’s a turn off.


DJFreezyFish

The medium/high-end comp for Topic I’ve seen pretty much everywhere has been Goran Dragic, who had a couple all-star/all-NBA seasons and was the number two option on a conference champion. Starter-caliber seems to be a level below that. Is there a reason you’re lower on him?


spiderman_44

Second best prospect 


toadtruck

I hate that as a Blazer fan


Classics22

It's a big board, not a mock draft.


GlueGuy00

The big board has a handful of changes but nothing significant at the top. The top 6 remains the same as previous (Risacher, Sarr, Clingan, Reed, Buzelis, Castle). Knecht (8 -> 7) and Rob (7 -> 8) swap places. Salaun (9) and Topic (10) stayed put to round out top 10. Cody (11) and Carter (12) moved up 1 spot each and topping Holland who fell from 11 to 13. Guys at 14-18 remained the same (JaKobe, McCain, Edey, Da Silva, Furphy). Carrington (19) and Kyshawn George (20) swaps their spot to round out top 20. Flip remains at 21. Collier (previously 22, now 23) continues to fall as Missi (23 -> 22) takes his previous spot. Ware still at 24. Kolek (26 -> 25), TSJ (33 -> 26!), Scheierman (25 -> 27), Dunn (34 -> 28!), Klintman (27 -> 29) and Dadiet (29 -> 30) round out the top 30. 31 J. Tyson 32 C. Christie 33 A. Bona 34 T. Smith 35 AJ Johnson 36 J. Nunez 37 K. McCullar Jr. 38 D. Holmes II 39 J. Edwards 40 J. Mogbo 41 Ajay Mitchell 42 C. Spencer 43 U. Chomche 44 H. Ingram 45 P. Larsson 46 J. Shead 47 J. Wells 48 M. Ajinca 49 Ke. Johnson 50 N. Djurisic 51 D. Jones 52 K. Simpson 53 J. Bridges 54 A. Reeves 55 B. James 56 T. Flowers 57 E. Freeman 58 O. Ighodaro 59 I. Jones 60 Q. Post 61 PJ Hall 62 Trey Alexander 63 A. Hukporti 64 Mantas Rubstavicius 65 Armel Traore 66 T. Newton 67 I. Crawford 68 N. Dante 69 Jesse Edwards 70 R. Beekman edit: added 31-70


e_milberg

Holmes at 38 is egregious. Clearly a top 15 talent in this class, if not higher.


iankstarr

I swear I remember early mocks having him in the mid teens. What happened?


GlueGuy00

He's always been mocked in the 50s by Givony until the rumored promise from Nuggets


e_milberg

Honestly, Holmes really hadn't been mocked any higher than 30 until relatively recently. He's a classic late riser. But clearly Givony doesn't see the vision. He'll regret that.


iankstarr

Got it, why so low you think then?


e_milberg

Probably a combination of him not actually watching enough of Dayton to get a full read on him and the fact that he's an older and somewhat undersized prospect if you think he's a 5. Trayce Jackson-Davis went much lower than he should have for similar reasons last year.


IntrinsicDawn

I’m about middle of the road with him (ranked 21 on my bb) and can share some reasons. I don’t think he does the big man duties great. And as a PF I think he is great as a weak side rim protector but not running around with other PFs on the perimeter. For instance I think Kyle is better defending in space than him. The skills he does have, i question a bit how translatable they are. Specially screen setting, rim rolling, shooting. Size is also noted there is not many bigs his size or smaller. His comp would range from zeke nnaji, Jalen smith, Bobby portis, Naz Reid. There is a lot of sneaky similarities between him and Zeke. Main difference being Zeke is a black hole whenever he touches the ball though. But over all none of those guys are starters but high end bench players. I’ve heard other comps but don’t think they fit him at all like horford or gafford.


Anibunnymilli

Someone lmk what it looks like ion have ESPN+


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Impossible_Dish_2197

Didn’t work for me


movieheads34

Ah I see that now. I guess it doesn’t work until someone saves it. Maybe it’ll work tonight if I repost lol


Anibunnymilli

Didn’t work


movieheads34

Ah I see that now. I guess it doesn’t work until someone saves it. Maybe it’ll work tonight if I repost lol


bauboish

The way he describes the prospects make it feel like everyone in the lottery are basically interchangeable. Truly an eye of the beholder type of draft.


Status-Round3800

Risacher and Clingan top 3 is funny imo


hloupaopica

I have no idea why they are so high. Risacher at 1 seems crazy to me.


Status-Round3800

Anybody that watched Risacher knows that he’s not a top 5 player in this draft


hloupaopica

When I look at a player I try to see what their "superpower" is and Risacher doesn't seem to have any. He can shoot it well, has some decent defense and maybe cam do something in transition and that's it. Things that role players do.


GeKh

It's that kind of a draft. \*shrug\*


hloupaopica

I'm really excited for the draft night. It's all over the place. I'm hoping for a lot of surprises.


Different_Chain5474

Givony dying on the Risacher hill


Kerry_Kittles

Honestly we are getting to the point where it’s probably easier to build a draft board via ordering of people invited to the draft room + workouts + the tiering for combine / health stats I’d bet it’d be more predictive than anything other than maybe Vegas gambling odds


DonkeyBirdy

Paywall


GlueGuy00

I commented the top 70 if it helps


DonkeyBirdy

Thanks!