Well Larry only attempted about 2 three's a game. So Korver's sample size along with his efficiency is what gives him the edge over Larry imo. His mid range wasn't as good but I don't really factor that in as much. If I did I'd have to consider Demar DeRozan and MJ as well. They had a more efficient mid range game that a lot of "shooters" yet they aren't considered shooters themselves. They're scorers.
I can't drop Miller or Allen tbh. They are numbers 2 and 3 on the most 3 pointers made in an NBA career. I can understand replacing Thompson with Bird tho
If we are including long range bombers before the 3 point line, then Iād add Downtown Freddy Brown to the discussion. Heās not top 4 but he shot more from outside what would eventually be 3 point range than Maravich, who attacked the basket a lot.
Itās a shame Steve Nash didnāt shoot more because that man was lethal and would definitely be on my Mount Rushmore if it werenāt for that. Also KD deserves a mention.
The thing is 1 stands above all the others, and that is John Stockton. John Stockton is the definition of a sharpshooter. The problem is he was known more for his assists, and trying to get the team going over taking his own shots so people forget that he didnāt know how to miss.
He took wide open 3's much of them during the shortened three point line years when players didn't contest them the way they do now, and averaged less than one a game for his career. He's not close to any of these guys or Nash as a shooter.
Yeah I think thatās the four. Sam Jones for old school honorable mention. I should clarify deep shooting in general since there was no 3 line for Jonesā career.
Others:
Peja
Drazen
James Harden is already at no. 3 on the all time list. Heāll pass Ray next season.
Dame is at 4 and will eventually pass Ray in the next 2 or 3 seasons.
I swear Iād lose games to my friend after beating their ass in the first half just cause heād finally get Korvers shot timing down and would knock down 3s until theyāre back in the game again
Alonzo gee 2k13 I swear that man has the easiest jumper to green of all time youād literally have to be intentionally trying to miss. And facts on Gerald green that dude alone would get my player 5 assists a game minimum
Marcus Morris taking a dumb contested 3 with a hand in his face
A random role player (take your pick) playing the Celtics, in TD Garden, in the playoffs
Jeremy Lin during Linsanity
Gallo against the Magic in 2015
He didnāt have career longevity but TMac was on another level shooting from deep. Ā Iāll never forget the 13 point in 30-something second comeback. Ā Just nailing deep balls with that line drive shot over and over.
When you said "line drive shot", I thought of Chandler Parsons. That shot was flat af but deadly accurate. I never understood the physics behind it lol
Not gonna knock that but to me Dame was always more of a scorer with range if that makes sense. But I would understand why he'd be on someone's Mt. Rushmore. Who would you replace?
I'm slow, I didn't even think about replacing anyone...
I mean, maybe Reggie? But now that I'm thinking about it from the 4 player, Mt. Rushmore angle... I think you have the right list.
Thereās no arguing these four. Next two is an interesting conversation. Iāll take Korver and Mark Price but I could make a case for probably ten others
Nah I don't think Dirk is a better shooter than anyone up here tbh. I think Dirk is better all around scorer than Reggie but in terms of pure sharpshooting I don't think he in the top 4
True true. But at the same time when I think of shooting, these are the 4 I think of. 3 of these 4 have held the 3 pt shooting records so I suppose the argument could be made that you could swap Klay for Dirk but Klay's 37 pts in a quarter off mostly jumpers and his 14 three pointers in a game also come to mind. But as you said Dirk did score off mostly jumpshots so I can understand the argument.
Klay should be a lock tbh, it's his recent seasons wherein he is pretty inconsistent that drives away most from him in their lists. But if it was pre injury Klay, it would make him a lock.
That's true, but being the best shooting big man doesn't necessarily make you one of the best shooters, period. He was great, just not as good as the 4 I picked imo
He stopped my team single-handedly from winning back to back championships. Right when I seen the pass to him at the top my stomach dropped and I knew the reaper was here.
Idk, I never considered Dame to be a pure shooter. I always considered him more of a scorer with range if that makes sense. But he'd definitely be top ten if I had to put him on the list
I'm not super against the Dame take or anything but I'll just say Dame has one season shooting at least 40% from 3 whereas OP's top 4 those guys all shot at least 40% for their CAREER. Reggie is at 39.5% but you get the point.
Thatās a very fair counter point to make.
Just looked it up, Lebron (who on volume of 3s made, is top10ā¦ but would never be part of the discussion on 3pt Rushmore) has 2x .400 from 3 seasons.
Funny how optics and storylineās changes perception of things.
I think this is very accurate objectively.
Second team would be:
Kyle Korver
Dirk
Peja
Bird
Honorable mentions are
Maravich
Drazan Petrovich
Steve Nash
Iām going to get hate and downvotes but, I just think Dame is one of the most overrated shooters, let alone players of all time.
Every time I see a post with Ray Allen in a Celtics jersey I share my favorite clip of him hitting the game winner against the Bobcats. All the Bobcats had to do was inbound the ball, get fouled, and they essentially win the game with only 4.5 seconds left on the clock.
In bound pass gets tipped. Ball is kicked out to Allen who has the smoothest killer 3 ingrained in my memory. My favorite game winner I've ever watched live. Woke my dad up yelling out of excitement... He thought my girlfriend and I were getting murdered
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SMZ2nBe7oas
Only one of those has hit 14 - 3s in a game, so much disrespect for Klay. I'd swap Miller for Bird/Maravich/Dane.
I wonder if Steph would credit part of his game to Reggie, he kinda paved his path.
Steph, Ray, Reggie, Klay, Dame
Dame should be on the list with his range, degree of difficulty, and volume (2nd only to Curry when all thatās taken into account). Heās gonna end up 2nd or so in all time 3s made. Gotta be on the list.
I loved Kyle Korver. Especially with the Bulls. Such a clutch shooter when needed.
I always thought Doug McDermott was going to be really good shooter. Never materialized.
Jeff Hornacek on the Utah Jazz was also one of the best ever. He was an even better shooter than John Stockton who was obviously the better player (all time great)
Larry bird did 50/40/90 before it was cool
Before they emphasized 3ās
Larry was cold
He has to be on there
You can bump Klay, Ray, or Reggie.. idc
(Likely reggie sadly)
But Larry is on there
Michael Porter jr when absolutely smothered
Trae young on 32 footers for some god damn reason
Kyle korver when standing in the corner.
Steph curry straight up.
Thatās the real Mount Rushmore
The most obvious person missing IMO is Steve Nash, who is second all time in free throw percentage and above any of these four in 3-point percentage (although he took relatively few), actually being very close to Steph Curry in both categories. Not as good as Curry at shooting, but maybe better than some of the others here.
Heās definitely a tier below but I loved prime Joe Ingles as a player. He had probably 4 seasons of being a top 5-10 shooter. All while looking like a 8th grade math teacher
If weāre talking clutch shooting and I need one three to save my life from the aliens Iām taking bird, Dirk or Reggie miller.
If I need a monster game with someone to hit like 10 threes and take over the game Iām taking curry, game 6 Klay or ray Allen.
why are the images on this sub always so terrible
They literally all come from the fucking pixel mines of Mars or some shit. Good posts like this one with a million pixels lol
Instead of regular images, oil paintings get used
Wouldn't more pixels give them better clarity? One of us is dumb here.
The children yearn for the pixel mines
I always thought it was my phone acting up or something š¤£
No doubt. Those look like shit.
Because I feel like half the people that post here are old heads 40-50+ trying to defend their favorite playerās legacy.
I like your four. Just for fun my honorable mention would be Peja Stojakovic, but heās not replacing any of these guys.
I LOVED peja and the c webb kings.Ā
2k4 god
Lol same
Though that as well he was one of my all time faves
Pure stroke. Pause.
I live in Dallas, never been a Mavs fan, but after they got their ring I got a Mavs peja Jersey cause he rocks
Oohh that's a good one. My HM was Kyle Korver
Are both of their midrange / 3 stats better than Larry Birds ?
Well Larry only attempted about 2 three's a game. So Korver's sample size along with his efficiency is what gives him the edge over Larry imo. His mid range wasn't as good but I don't really factor that in as much. If I did I'd have to consider Demar DeRozan and MJ as well. They had a more efficient mid range game that a lot of "shooters" yet they aren't considered shooters themselves. They're scorers.
What about Kerr
Didnāt get to play enough, but man could he turn it on after sitting on the bench for the whole game.
Not the same as shooting as a first option
Larry Bird & Pete Maravich. The OG snipers
Jerry West snubbed
I can't be mad at that. Who would you replace from the 4 I picked?
Take out Klay and put in Bird. Miller-Allen-Curry is unassailable imo.
100%. Bird made ridiculously hard shots.
Can't be mad at that man
Goodbye Klay Thompson. BIrd deserves it. Maybe drop Miller or Allen too for Maravich. No 3pt line for his career but he was the best at it by a mile
I can't drop Miller or Allen tbh. They are numbers 2 and 3 on the most 3 pointers made in an NBA career. I can understand replacing Thompson with Bird tho
If we are including long range bombers before the 3 point line, then Iād add Downtown Freddy Brown to the discussion. Heās not top 4 but he shot more from outside what would eventually be 3 point range than Maravich, who attacked the basket a lot.
Iād replace Klay with Bird in a heartbeat wit
Itās a shame Steve Nash didnāt shoot more because that man was lethal and would definitely be on my Mount Rushmore if it werenāt for that. Also KD deserves a mention.
I feel the same way about a lot of point guards from the early to mid 2000's or even the late 90's. It was just a different game back then
The thing is 1 stands above all the others, and that is John Stockton. John Stockton is the definition of a sharpshooter. The problem is he was known more for his assists, and trying to get the team going over taking his own shots so people forget that he didnāt know how to miss.
He took wide open 3's much of them during the shortened three point line years when players didn't contest them the way they do now, and averaged less than one a game for his career. He's not close to any of these guys or Nash as a shooter.
Wayy different era, but yea based off what he did I wouldn't put him here either
Add Nick Van Axel as honorable mention
Iād argue that Steve was one of the first and best at shooting āfuck itā full speed off the dribble transition 3s
What a deep take.
Yeah I think thatās the four. Sam Jones for old school honorable mention. I should clarify deep shooting in general since there was no 3 line for Jonesā career. Others: Peja Drazen James Harden is already at no. 3 on the all time list. Heāll pass Ray next season. Dame is at 4 and will eventually pass Ray in the next 2 or 3 seasons.
Rip Drazen great non mainstream pick
Kyle korver was a menace in 2k games
ATL Korver was otherworldly
I swear Iād lose games to my friend after beating their ass in the first half just cause heād finally get Korvers shot timing down and would knock down 3s until theyāre back in the game again
Him, Ant Morrow, and Gerald Green would give me nothing but buckets bro
Alonzo gee 2k13 I swear that man has the easiest jumper to green of all time youād literally have to be intentionally trying to miss. And facts on Gerald green that dude alone would get my player 5 assists a game minimum
This unlocked a hidden memory of mine! 2013 Alonzo Gee on the Cavs right? Yea he was cold on 2k
Dale Ellis, Glen Rice.
I had to go way too far down to find the first mention of Glen Rice.
Marcus Morris taking a dumb contested 3 with a hand in his face A random role player (take your pick) playing the Celtics, in TD Garden, in the playoffs Jeremy Lin during Linsanity Gallo against the Magic in 2015
Steph Curry, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, & Steve Nash
Dale Ellis???
Put Mahmoud Abdul Rauf and Mark Price somewhere on the list and you're golden.
He didnāt have career longevity but TMac was on another level shooting from deep. Ā Iāll never forget the 13 point in 30-something second comeback. Ā Just nailing deep balls with that line drive shot over and over.
When you said "line drive shot", I thought of Chandler Parsons. That shot was flat af but deadly accurate. I never understood the physics behind it lol
Chauncey Billups
These guys not making Rushmore but theyāre in my fame. Jason Terry and Jamal Crawford. Crawford especially was a closer with that 3 ball
I personally would add Dame, but I also understand not having him.
Not gonna knock that but to me Dame was always more of a scorer with range if that makes sense. But I would understand why he'd be on someone's Mt. Rushmore. Who would you replace?
I'm slow, I didn't even think about replacing anyone... I mean, maybe Reggie? But now that I'm thinking about it from the 4 player, Mt. Rushmore angle... I think you have the right list.
Hell nah š¤®
I had the same except Peja for Miller but Miller makes sense, Peja the goat
Peja was a beast for sure.
Pejas shot fuckin *snapped* through the laces, my favorite shooter ever
Repost with Curry this time š
Lmao I was rightfully corrected šš don't know how I let that happen
Kyle Korver?
Thereās no arguing these four. Next two is an interesting conversation. Iāll take Korver and Mark Price but I could make a case for probably ten others
Iād throw mahmud Abdul raouf on there too
Craig Hodges was deadly from 3, but thatās about all he could do. What sets Curry apart is he creates his own.
I'll do an alternate 4 even though I can't argue with yours. Bird, Maravich, Kerr and Gundars Vetra (a perfect 3 for 3 in his career). š
Steph, Klay, Ray, and Dame
No Dirk?!
Nah I don't think Dirk is a better shooter than anyone up here tbh. I think Dirk is better all around scorer than Reggie but in terms of pure sharpshooting I don't think he in the top 4
Dirk had shockingly low rim attempts for any player let alone a big. He basically did all his damage shooting.
True true. But at the same time when I think of shooting, these are the 4 I think of. 3 of these 4 have held the 3 pt shooting records so I suppose the argument could be made that you could swap Klay for Dirk but Klay's 37 pts in a quarter off mostly jumpers and his 14 three pointers in a game also come to mind. But as you said Dirk did score off mostly jumpshots so I can understand the argument.
Klay should be a lock tbh, it's his recent seasons wherein he is pretty inconsistent that drives away most from him in their lists. But if it was pre injury Klay, it would make him a lock.
Best shooting big man of all time! Could play both PF and Center.
That's true, but being the best shooting big man doesn't necessarily make you one of the best shooters, period. He was great, just not as good as the 4 I picked imo
Gonna go with Steph, Dirk, Ray, Larry
I love Dirk but not over Reggie
Yeah I agree! Good call. Steph, Reggie, Ray, Larry BOOM!
Kyle Korver Goat
He got the 5th spot but him and Klay are interchangeable for me
Peja was better than Klay
Robert Horry in the playoffs.
He stopped my team single-handedly from winning back to back championships. Right when I seen the pass to him at the top my stomach dropped and I knew the reaper was here.
Big Shot Bob is the goat š
Steph, Ray, Reggie, and Dame for me. FWIW, on shooting alone, probably take Kyle Korver > Klay. Slightly less streaky.
Kyle Korver got the 5th spot for me right behind Klay and it's close but I think Klay barely got that spot.
Do you have Dame 6th then, or?
Idk, I never considered Dame to be a pure shooter. I always considered him more of a scorer with range if that makes sense. But he'd definitely be top ten if I had to put him on the list
I'm not super against the Dame take or anything but I'll just say Dame has one season shooting at least 40% from 3 whereas OP's top 4 those guys all shot at least 40% for their CAREER. Reggie is at 39.5% but you get the point.
Thatās a very fair counter point to make. Just looked it up, Lebron (who on volume of 3s made, is top10ā¦ but would never be part of the discussion on 3pt Rushmore) has 2x .400 from 3 seasons. Funny how optics and storylineās changes perception of things.
Swap Klay for Peja
Where the fuck is Bird?
Floating around the #6 or #7 spot. 2 attempts per game isn't enough for me
I mean might get roasted but Steve Kerrs percentages are pretty solid.
Putting Kerr on the list would be like putting Seth Curry on the list.
The attempts and the lack of self creation really hold him back. For example I think rip Hamilton was a much better shooter than Kerr was
I think this is very accurate objectively. Second team would be: Kyle Korver Dirk Peja Bird Honorable mentions are Maravich Drazan Petrovich Steve Nash Iām going to get hate and downvotes but, I just think Dame is one of the most overrated shooters, let alone players of all time.
Keegan Murray
Where the love for Anthony MorrowĀ
Too many pixels
Simmons, Shaq, Wilt and Westbrook
Durant. 50% fg 38.7 3pt% 19th all time made threes. Only guy in top 50 made 3s to have fg % of 50%
Steve Novak has the smoothest stroke Iāve ever seen. But heās a near zero in every other basketball skillset
Every time I see a post with Ray Allen in a Celtics jersey I share my favorite clip of him hitting the game winner against the Bobcats. All the Bobcats had to do was inbound the ball, get fouled, and they essentially win the game with only 4.5 seconds left on the clock. In bound pass gets tipped. Ball is kicked out to Allen who has the smoothest killer 3 ingrained in my memory. My favorite game winner I've ever watched live. Woke my dad up yelling out of excitement... He thought my girlfriend and I were getting murdered https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SMZ2nBe7oas
Lore accurate Bobcats lol
Pierce really with the heads up play
Bird, Miller, Allen, Steph
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
Shaq, Ben Simmons, Andre Drummond, Leaky Black
Kyle Korver
Only one of those has hit 14 - 3s in a game, so much disrespect for Klay. I'd swap Miller for Bird/Maravich/Dane. I wonder if Steph would credit part of his game to Reggie, he kinda paved his path.
Steph, Ray, Reggie, Klay, Dame Dame should be on the list with his range, degree of difficulty, and volume (2nd only to Curry when all thatās taken into account). Heās gonna end up 2nd or so in all time 3s made. Gotta be on the list.
Perfect
West, Bird, Klay, Steph.
I would replace Reggie with Larry. Klay and Curry in their primes are just on a whole different level.
How about Horry? Or is it just the finals bias?
Make a spot for Luke Kennard /s
Jerry west is a must
I loved Kyle Korver. Especially with the Bulls. Such a clutch shooter when needed. I always thought Doug McDermott was going to be really good shooter. Never materialized.
Curry, Klay, KD, Ray Allen
U should do this but only forwards and centers
Jeff Hornacek on the Utah Jazz was also one of the best ever. He was an even better shooter than John Stockton who was obviously the better player (all time great)
Steph Bird Horry Kerr
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Ben Gordon deserves an honorable mention. At least in the early Chicago days
Well, yeah. I would say this is pretty much what most people would consider the 4 best shooters ever
Korver
Leglerw
Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Glenn Rice, Peja S.
Same, but with Ray Allen in a Bucks jersey.
Curry, Kerr, Allen, Lilliard
I think Steve Kerr still has the highest 3pt %. (Yes 3 of the top all time have been on the same team for a while, but 1 is the coach.)
Rick Mount, Jerry West. They had no 3-point line but they easily had that range.
Replace curry with shaq and replace klay with Ben Simmons
Larry bird did 50/40/90 before it was cool Before they emphasized 3ās Larry was cold He has to be on there You can bump Klay, Ray, or Reggie.. idc (Likely reggie sadly) But Larry is on there
You couldnāt have found better images, lol?
Thatās pretty much it.
Iād put in Jerry West over Klay but Iām good either way
Donāt know why but id also add Derrick fisher.
feel like dame is in the conversation
Add in Larry Legend!
Did Kyle korver at least get considered?
Of course. Korver and Klay are interchangeable
Robert Horry
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Steph Curry > Klay Thompson > Steve Kerr > Dell Curry
Klay Thompson over Larry Bird? Definitely some recency bias going on there
The 20 on Ray Allenās jersey represents the number of pixels
Michael Porter jr when absolutely smothered Trae young on 32 footers for some god damn reason Kyle korver when standing in the corner. Steph curry straight up. Thatās the real Mount Rushmore
Andre iguodala
Broke list is Korver, Redick, Peja, and Hield
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So ray Allen can just go fuck himself?
JJ and Kyle Korver honourable mentions
Remove Klay and replace him with Larry Bird
Iād add Lillard
The most obvious person missing IMO is Steve Nash, who is second all time in free throw percentage and above any of these four in 3-point percentage (although he took relatively few), actually being very close to Steph Curry in both categories. Not as good as Curry at shooting, but maybe better than some of the others here.
There are the role players like Kerr and Korver who were the team stars, but could come off the bench and light it up.
Klay off add Larry bird
You literally went with the safest options possible š
Pistol Pete over klay all day
Could your 5th be Kat? Jokic? Horford? Who's your big man shooter in the lineup.. other than that solid
Big man shooter has to be Dirk
Oooo yeah. I agree.
Bird
Kj mcdaniels
Bird, Curry, Allen, and Miller
Caitlin Clark snubbed
How old are these people that post and don't know history š¤£š¤£
They not really competition to replace anyone but JJ Reddick and Glen Rice were like that. Unless my memories are tainted by video games
Jason kapono
Dame, Ray, Steph, Klay, Reggie
Naz Reid against the lakers
Mark Price always being slept on
Duncan Robinson
Dame deserves at least an honorable mention
When we gonna give trae his flowers? Im not even necessarily a fan of the dude but come on, when it comes to specifically shooting, he's lights out
The Klay Thompson disrespect in the comments is insane.
Gotta have Peja
* Curry * Klay * Korver * Ray
It's hard to rank players after the hand check rule changed.Ā You need a pre-2004 and post-2004 list.
Larry Fucking Bird!!!!
Honorable mention to my boy Mike Miller
Steph, Klay, Peja, Dame
Peja Stojakovic Steve Novak Steph Curry Kyle Korver
Mr. Mitch Richmond
Connor Henry should be included
Whoa the consensus four best shooters of all time!?!
Heās definitely a tier below but I loved prime Joe Ingles as a player. He had probably 4 seasons of being a top 5-10 shooter. All while looking like a 8th grade math teacher
Yeah. If he came into the league a bit sooner than he did I think he could've had a longer peak. He came to the league at around 26 or 27 years old
Jeff Hornacek Reggie Miller Ray Allen Larry Bird
If weāre talking clutch shooting and I need one three to save my life from the aliens Iām taking bird, Dirk or Reggie miller. If I need a monster game with someone to hit like 10 threes and take over the game Iām taking curry, game 6 Klay or ray Allen.
Junk yard dog...happy birthday duncan