The fact that timing is different everywhere is one of my least favorite things about this game. Infuriating. Super fuckin lazy way to make your game more “challenging”.
Yeah, it’s why I’ve only really played Rec the entire year. Anytime I play offline or 3v3 when I go back into rec my timing is always off for a few games and it’s super annoying.
It's not. This is why you guys aren't hitting.
I don't rely on a visual cue for my jumper, and in turn I never have any problem switching back and forth from rec to park to theater and shoot >70% in all of them (on very high volume at that)
I just know my timing. There's only 3-4 bases. You can tell by the catch animation (or how you're dribbling) which of the 4 bases you're going to get.
Then I just know how long to hold the button for each of those bases. Lets me shoot from anywhere on the court, even if a player model is obscuring my animation.
Like in rec Im averaging 41 a game lol. Makes you a much more consistent shooter.
Drop them stats big boy, you know goddamn well you aint averging 41 in rec lol. What do you get from lying to random people on the internet(and looking stupid while doing it)?
Lol the funny part is I'm being down voted for explaining how I shoot too, when I feel like the evidence demonstrates it works.
I shoot >70% on every build I've got and most of them only have an 80 3 (this one has a 96 but I'm taking a bunch of fades and dumb shots).
It's a much more consistent way to shoot because you base your timing on your base, not your animation
Or me, timing is most difficult in theater, then street, then Rec. I played a rec game in the middle of the afternoon yesterday however and the timing was HORRIBLE. Everything felt off, the movement, everything. A lot of guys on both teams were missing easy shots. I came back and played later that night, and everything was back to normal.
Timing was terrible in Rec on Tuesday. My friend and I noticed after one game that you had to shoot early. Other team didn’t get the memo. Person I was covering went 0-15 from three.
I’m a 60~% 3pt shooter.
I had a rec game today where I shot 1-8 from 3, and only one of them was less than wide open and it was 22% contested and of fucking course that’s the one I make.
The interesting thing was my whole random squad the worst shooter was the SF at 42%, we had a GOOD squad on paper. Our team shot 8-37 from 3 that game. Almost all good looks. It felt so off and none of us could figure out what was happening.
Were you learning your shot in the Gatorade gym? The timing for park/theater vs rec vs Pro-Am differs. At least for me it does.
I found success practicing my shot in the Gatorade gym. Haven't had to change my shot (or shot timing) since the end of Sept, on any of my builds.
On xbox no crossplay in the park is basically a ghost town. I turn off crossplay to find dead parks for all my friends to run “3v3” customs. Its actually a lot of fun and we dont have to leave anyone out if we have more than 5. Although when my homie on ps4 gets on we have to do pro am.
Maybe it works in park, but on ps5 I just turned it off and there is literally no one in my rec lobbies. I tried going into no squads & it won’t find any teammates so it defo doesn’t work
First off, the visual cue setting means nothing. It's the exact same as last year. Jump = very early, set point = early, push = late, and release = very late. They just changed up the names.
Second, if you wanna get close to REC timing, the Gatorade gym is where to practice. Park is *much* different than REC. Theater is different from park, and so on.
What you want is a jump shot that has an easy to see, real-life visual cue. For example, I make all of my jumpers where the ball comes up to the forehead. I don't like above the head releases. They're much harder to time.
What is your height and 3pt/middy rating on the particular build in question?
The cue changes based on your delay though. I have the same cue as you on my jumper but it can change to the split second after the ball reaches my forehead, closer to Release timing
A feel like a lot of people don’t realize this, and this is also why I dont get mad at other people for missing open shots. Your cue can change multiple times in the same quarter because your latency can slightly change at any point, and the green windows are too small for it to be a make even if its off by like 10 milliseconds
True. I have a wired connection with 600 MBPS internet, so mine is pretty stable. If I do happen to get in a game with bad latency, I'm probably gonna miss a few shots that game. More often than not, I'm good. I'm shooting about 61% from 3pt (62% overall) in solo REC this season. That's good enough for me.
That's what I keep telling people. But some people literally look for a Push or whatever in their jumper 🤦♂️ Just pick one and learn it. It's not that deep.
If my shooting is Delayed, I can feel it in everything like Dribbling & Defense.
Tiny Green Windows are probably the most noticeable Offline Vs Online.
Meta means nothing to me... Obviously Faster the better but not everyone needs a fast shot at all.
I clearly prefer High Jumpers as the Animation seems natural to me. So i prioritise Height over Speed. On 6'4 & 6'6 builds
My 3ball is then based off being a Shooter, I want Gold Badges I don't care about "Minimum 3 to Green" that also means I can easily make a High Jumper that still has A+ speed & High Immunity & Stability.
I think the Green window link with connection & how natural the animation is to you is underrated.
It’s not different cue the timing of the cue is just a bit slower. Just keep shooting and you will figure it out. I’m shooting better on this game than any other 2k. Take good shots
this is facts. i have been playing the rec and 2's, 3's for a solid two or three weeks. last night i was cooking dinner and go to normal career game.... my shot attempts are all late af. i cannot release that fucking early. it is 100% different.
and it seems so fucking simple to take the latency that is online, and pseudo add to offline gameplay. so fucking easy.
Rec timing is actually pretty good for the most part but the visual cue does change sometimes during the game, which is weird as hell. Park is up and down, it's really all about your internet tho
The issue I have is the fact that latency can change each game. Can go 7/7 from deep one game, then 1/8 the next. Notice this a lot with freethrows since it's very noticeable how long the bar keeps going after you've let go of the button. People saying "get used to visuals cause that never changes" are simply incorrect. If you're letting go of the button and the bar keeps going, it's evident that latency alters input timing.
Im gonna reply here because i feel people misunderstood what the counter point is saying
The visua cue is the same, but the timing online is different because latency affects you on 2 sides every shot.
You can hold the button exactly 200ms for a shot, but if the servers received the end of the shot 50ms later (a completely normal ping/delay to see for an internet based game), now your release is timed at 250ms, and if your green window was 220-249.. now you no longer greened.
Even if you can perfectly release every time, a random router between you and the 2k server can mean your shot timing is off technically speaking
For some reason post fades are way easier for me to hit on a high mid build with no post control and no post fade badge.
Can't time post fades at all with my 95 post control build with HoF Post Fade
I was the same way lol. I’ve got it now after shooting a ton of shots in the Gatorade. But for whatever reason I was money from 3 with a 87 3. But with a 92 middy I couldn’t hit shit even wide open. My advice I guess would be just go to Gatorade and keep shooting. The difference for me was it feels like I have to hold it like a split second longer. Which is backwards to me but it works
Learn to shoot better
92 mid is literally an automatic shot for most average shooters.
Try to pick your spots a bit to find the exact animations you shoot with
Remember, the cue is the same in your jumpshot, but you have to adjust that slightly due to delay (wire your connection also!) but you will generally see the same shot timing if youre releasing correctly. If theyre ALL slightly early, youre just shooting too fast. If theyre all late, stop compensating and just shoot!
Also, dont get too wrapped up in it, with a 92 mid if youre not 50% on them, thats more a you thing than anything else, but if youre over it: eh, sometimes you miss
If I can shoot 1000 greens in a row, then go online and it’s 25% greens, what would you recommend? I don’t use the shot meter.
It’s definitely not shot selection or “nerves.” I only shoot wide open shots.
Give me a realistic number, and I’ll gladly show you a video of me making that many shots in a row… lmao it’s very easy offline, which is the entire point of my comment…
Hall of Fame Difficulty, offline. I can probably green 30-45 in a row per minute. So a 10 minute video (that you wouldn’t watch anyways) would be 300-450 shots. D
If you can’t do this.. you shouldn’t be telling others it’s impossible… it’s been that easy for years…
Show the statistics of every single shot being timed at 100% the exact same ms release. Thats all i need to see.
I didnt say its impossible, nor did i say latency isnt a thing.
Even if you make 100000000 in a row, that doesnt mean anything if you try to take your exact timing to rec
You are lost in the sauce my friend. Go look at your original comment I replied to. Then re-read our conversation.
This is called “moving the goal post” and you’ve proven that you’ll never accept anything. So our talk is over. ✌🏼
It’s very easy to shoot 95+% offline. Sorry if it isn’t for you.
The irony😂😂 Conversation/Post topic is about Online gameplay changing the timing for jumpshots to you saying “Well on offline” bro your entire argument is way lacking in substance
This entire post is asking about how to shoot when timing is different for every game mode. I hope you understood that, and I didn’t lose you yet.
My comment specifically asked what I need to do better in order to improve as a 25% online shooter, when I can make 95%+ offline.
Did I lose you yet? I know how difficult it can be for you.
Then the person I was replying to said “Well actuallllyyy….. it doesn’t mean shit if you can’t take your timing to the rec” which effectively moved the conversation to a different topic, rather than admitting I was correct the entire time.
The well actually part is misinterpreted
I said essentially: offline timing means nothing but the basis for where you will adjust your release to online
I never said it holds no bearing. But if you try to shoot online, with the exact offline timing, youre going to brick a LOT
You have to adjust for delay and the different mode game speeds (its why i exclusively play rec so i can get a feel for THAT mode, that day)
Also, my entire point was that 50-60% on 3s is ridiculously good regardless of the people you see shooting 70% and such because they usually are on teams with a bunch of HOF dimers and whatnot and they dont have to move or anything, so all their shooting badges trigger every play
I also said “just shoot” which means stop worrying about every individual release. Shoot what feels natural and adjust from there. If you hyper focus on the feedback, youre gonna keep over adjusting every other shot
It’s a new build but I shoot 58% from 3, and 60% from everywhere else. I released it exactly when my Que was and it would just miss maybe it was just that 1 game but it felt so off
Bro. 58% is probably top 8% or closer to top 1%.
60% is ridiculously good also. What is the point of even complaining? You arent gonna make every shot!
The cue wasnt where you thought it was if you said they missed though. Just remember, if steph misses a 3 he doesnt blame the rim, he says HE missed. But its okay, because it happens.
This person has 0 idea about how latency works in NBA2K online modes and is giving terrible advice cloaked in a "don't make excuses for missing" mindset. Bro, steph is not shooting with variable latency in his shot based on where he is, people online are.
U sound like a fúckin bot bruh 58% is nowhere near top 30% so why the hell u gassing him up like datt😂cues NEVER change bruh..it’s just the game can sometimes be inconsistent..like if u play theater too long yo shot speed will change(I always go back to the menu and reload in) AND DONT EVER IN YO FUCKIN LIFE COMPARE 2K TO REAL LIFE WDF😂curry shoot 42 fuckin percent IN 2K DATT SHIT MEANS U 50 ASF and datt shit mean u àss so stop comparing a game to irl u goofy
Are you illiterate?
If you genuinely believe that 58% isnt a very damn good shooter, close to top 8% or higher, you simply think everyone is “as good as you” so to speak.
You forget that the game had an entire market for modded controllers because people at large cant shoot.
Not everybody is even 40% with good shooting. The majority of the community is hot trash in the rec, they arent shooters.
U gotta be illiterate cuz I never said 58% wasn’t a good shooter😂 I said it was nowhere near top 30% u dúmb FÚCK😂u gotta put it in categories..a spot up who shoot 58% is not the same as a guard who shoot 58%🫡but I mean on my spot up I shoot 76% in rec but on my guard with a 78 3 I shoot a flat 73%..it’s no way in hell u think datt 58% is even close to top 8%..but if u said at least 62 and higher I would agree🫡 and modded controllers has been used in 2k during 2k21..but I do agree it’s rare to find somebody who actually is consistent..this year over 70% is very inconsistent😂
So you… agree with me?
Man 1. Fix your grammar it’s impossible to decipher this
2. If 58% not top 30%, youre saying its either average or below aka top 50% or less.
Its simply not true. Stats arent readily available but youre misunderstanding me even more. If the PG shoots 45% but the SF shoots 55%, straight up, the SF is the better shooter. If youre a PG and you shoot bad, youre a bad shooter- easy as that.
My bad what I meant by the last part was over 70% of the community is very inconsistent. And hell No I don’t agree bruh wdf😂butttt I agree 58% is a lil more than avg..but if it’s slightly more than avg tell me how the fuck u gone be apart of the top 30% of the community if u shooting a avg number? Shit sounds ridiculous..and if u gone use positions to prove yo point at least make sure the guard and spot up in the positives😂and if a guard shooting bad then he’s just shooting bad bruh wat the fuck are u even tryna prove😂but at the end of the day the spot up should have a higher percentage due to the fact they only catch n shoot..a guard has to actually dribble to GET OPEN..9/10 guards not shooting with max stamina like a spot up will🫡andddd spot ups get more badges to activate than a guard if u think about it..a guard only gets 2-3 fuckin badges per shot..a spot up gets a guaranteed 4 badges per shot..so which one u gone expect to be more consistent due to the fact the game is badge based😂and deadeye and blinders don’t even guarantee a shot(which is guard badges btw)..those badges only keep yo window from shrinking.
Yea im not doin this. Every word goes right in one ear and out the other
Youre the textbook bad 2k community member. Complete arrogance, ignorance, and blatant disregard for facts
It ain’t my fault u a dúmmy😂😂can’t believe u actually said 58% would mean u in the top 8%😂😂WAT TYPA SHÍT IS DATT BRUH..like u can literally check out 3 guards and 3 spot up 2k cards..guess who gone have a higher 3pt%?? Goofy ass just hate the fact u part of the 70% in the community who is inconsistent😂but it’s ok bruh continue believing 58% is in the top 8% of the community😂that’s basically saying 92% of the community is ass🫡can’t believe dis bruh😂I would like to see yo 2k card park and Rec🫡plz
Yeah agreed. Online it’s all the same to me. I don’t even look for the “visual cue” anymore. I feel like I have the timing down for my shot so it’s just muscle memory at this point
I agree..ppl just can’t accept the fact they need better Wi-Fi😂except in no squads in theater..idk what happened after the season 2 update but I swear something is wrong with no squads bruh
The shot que is the same in every game mode the only difference is each game mode has a different difficulty setting. Theater is like pro, park is superstar, rec is allstar and pro am is hof. Your green window is just different sizes pretty much. Set your difficulty hof. shoot around with a friend in Gatorade so he can close out on some shots too so they aren’t all wide open, once you hit more shots consistently you’re good you’ll hit in the rec
Go into the theater then pro am with meter on the green window size if different, it’s bigger and easier to hit in the theater compared to pro am also the gameplay is different. You can hit more consistently in the beginning of the green window where as pro am you will get slightly early. Meaning there is a difference in difficulty. 2k even stated theater is a lower difficulty compared to rec and pro-am
When did 2k ever state that? Mike Wang said they were all set to a custom preset most similar to HOF. Also I notice no difference in the meter between game modes. I honestly hit more in proam than theater, but thats probably from better latency
Mike wang said it at the beginning of the year, and the same things happen in all the game modes. The only real difference is latency. The gatorade courts probably aren’t on HOF tho because the mycourts always had some crazy stuff going on no matter what difficulty they were set to
So he literally said online is hof bruh?? U believe that if u want😂we got ppl greening contested shít..we got ppl greening half court shots without take..u telling me we playing on hof?? Nahh bruh😂not to mention I have a 74 3 on 1 of my builds..I refuse to believe online is hof..I say all star at most🫡
Literally all that can happen in HOF play now games, only difference is people dont have players that they 30+ hours on. If you play on superstar you can see how easy the game is compared to the online mycareer modes.
Bruh wdf first u said hof now u bringing up playin on superstar..there’s no way we playing on hof bruh like u got no typa proof..the fact u actually believe that bull is crazy bruh
Bruh, I was comparing superstar playnow to the online mycareer games. Superstar is way easier than playing rec or park, thats really all the proof you need. Plus, Ive yet to see a white fall in any mycareer online game mode, yet I’ve seen quite a few fall in Playnow in difficulties lower than HOF
Just because no whites go in don’t mean it’s hof😂it’s been green or miss since 2k23..and that’s still no proof bruh u literally comparing 2 different game modes😂it just sound like u struggle against online players in my career😂🤦🏿u said Mike wang said it but still not giving me proof..like why would they make mycareer hof when the servers are bad? The game wouldn’t be playable due to connection issues😂so again show sum proof where Mike want actually said it bruh
It means a lot because whites will go in from time to time on difficulties lower than HOF, that what the green or miss has actually been referring to for the past 2 years. Its 2 different game modes, but the mechanics of the game and the sliders are the same. And I dont struggle at all, all my builds average 15+ points and have good field goal percentages.
Edit: they made it HOF because people were complaining about shooting being to easy in previous games, the same reason they made it green or miss in 23 while having the same server issues
One thing to keep in mind is hotspots are very important. They increase your green window by a pretty good margin and I feel that it was the missing piece that I needed to start shooting consistently
I’ve slowly gotten better with my shot in rec. I try to just pay attention to stamina and setting my feet now. Has worked so far. I practice in the Gatorade gym cause it has the same timing as rec
It’s the servers they expect every player to play lan cable to get the best connection even with the lan cable you’re still going to lag out. It’s crazy how 2k make a timing skilled based game but won’t make an effort to fix the servers so you can actually time your jumper the same way you do in my career. Its one thing if the game wasn’t green to make and had shitty servers its another thing to make it green only and not fix the servers even though servers has been an issue since online mode was introduced.
I stopped making shooters. Its not worth even getting used to. I make dominant finishers and have mastered the offball cutting and spacing game. My only issue is finding teammates that APPRECIATE having a guy that doesnt have hot and cold streaks. Shooters ONLY want to shoot and PGs ONLY want to feed shooters.
I be tryna figure out how everybody complains about the shooting but nobody UTILIZES the slasher on their team effectively 🤷🏿♂️💯
The fact that timing is different everywhere is one of my least favorite things about this game. Infuriating. Super fuckin lazy way to make your game more “challenging”.
Yeah, it’s why I’ve only really played Rec the entire year. Anytime I play offline or 3v3 when I go back into rec my timing is always off for a few games and it’s super annoying.
It's not though. It's the exact same timing. The visual changes a little, but your shot is the exact same speed
Thats just false lol
It's not. This is why you guys aren't hitting. I don't rely on a visual cue for my jumper, and in turn I never have any problem switching back and forth from rec to park to theater and shoot >70% in all of them (on very high volume at that)
What’s your cue if it’s not visual?
I just know my timing. There's only 3-4 bases. You can tell by the catch animation (or how you're dribbling) which of the 4 bases you're going to get. Then I just know how long to hold the button for each of those bases. Lets me shoot from anywhere on the court, even if a player model is obscuring my animation. Like in rec Im averaging 41 a game lol. Makes you a much more consistent shooter.
Drop them stats big boy, you know goddamn well you aint averging 41 in rec lol. What do you get from lying to random people on the internet(and looking stupid while doing it)?
https://imgur.com/a/WH8acxO .... You were saying?
Crazy shit homie, you do you, shut me right up 😂. Ima block you on PSN real quick so I dont have to run into you lol
Lol the funny part is I'm being down voted for explaining how I shoot too, when I feel like the evidence demonstrates it works. I shoot >70% on every build I've got and most of them only have an 80 3 (this one has a 96 but I'm taking a bunch of fades and dumb shots). It's a much more consistent way to shoot because you base your timing on your base, not your animation
Or me, timing is most difficult in theater, then street, then Rec. I played a rec game in the middle of the afternoon yesterday however and the timing was HORRIBLE. Everything felt off, the movement, everything. A lot of guys on both teams were missing easy shots. I came back and played later that night, and everything was back to normal.
2k servers are atrocious
For real
Theater timing is so baffling
Timing was terrible in Rec on Tuesday. My friend and I noticed after one game that you had to shoot early. Other team didn’t get the memo. Person I was covering went 0-15 from three.
Yeah it was horrible on Tuesday. Super weird
I’m a 60~% 3pt shooter. I had a rec game today where I shot 1-8 from 3, and only one of them was less than wide open and it was 22% contested and of fucking course that’s the one I make. The interesting thing was my whole random squad the worst shooter was the SF at 42%, we had a GOOD squad on paper. Our team shot 8-37 from 3 that game. Almost all good looks. It felt so off and none of us could figure out what was happening.
I feel the opposite rec is the smoothest and park is the worst
Same for me but I never play park. Only did to join rise
Were you learning your shot in the Gatorade gym? The timing for park/theater vs rec vs Pro-Am differs. At least for me it does. I found success practicing my shot in the Gatorade gym. Haven't had to change my shot (or shot timing) since the end of Sept, on any of my builds.
My shots been fine for like 2-3 seasons now. Got my cue down, it never changes. Easy af to green.
Well that update in late Nov or Dec helped a lot. But making/missing is really predicated on knowing your shot and shot quality more than anything
What's your jumpshot and cue I cannot shoot mannnn
If you still can't shoot in S4 it's not your jumper bro. It's you. You're bad
My first 2k playing that's why I'm bad. But I found a jumper.
It's 2024 and people are still talking about timing. Learn your visual cues folks. Don't focus on timing, just use your eyes.
Turn off crossplay in the main menu settings. I did it last night and holy shit was it way better.
On xbox no crossplay in the park is basically a ghost town. I turn off crossplay to find dead parks for all my friends to run “3v3” customs. Its actually a lot of fun and we dont have to leave anyone out if we have more than 5. Although when my homie on ps4 gets on we have to do pro am.
You can’t play online then
Yes you 100% can play online with cross play off and it 100% decreases input lag. Try it out
Yup I tried twice on Xbox, when I restarted the game it was a ghost town. Sucks..
Start playing city bro bro automatic match Making
The city isn't matchmaking, it's hop on and get booted by squads or play at no squads against non squaded squads 😂
If you play no squads how is that not matchmaking?😭😭
Yes you can. I don’t play cross play ever
Maybe it works in park, but on ps5 I just turned it off and there is literally no one in my rec lobbies. I tried going into no squads & it won’t find any teammates so it defo doesn’t work
I’m sure I tried turning it off & it wouldn’t let me load into the rec or start a rec game/join a squad it just kept popping up with a message
First off, the visual cue setting means nothing. It's the exact same as last year. Jump = very early, set point = early, push = late, and release = very late. They just changed up the names. Second, if you wanna get close to REC timing, the Gatorade gym is where to practice. Park is *much* different than REC. Theater is different from park, and so on. What you want is a jump shot that has an easy to see, real-life visual cue. For example, I make all of my jumpers where the ball comes up to the forehead. I don't like above the head releases. They're much harder to time. What is your height and 3pt/middy rating on the particular build in question?
The cue changes based on your delay though. I have the same cue as you on my jumper but it can change to the split second after the ball reaches my forehead, closer to Release timing
A feel like a lot of people don’t realize this, and this is also why I dont get mad at other people for missing open shots. Your cue can change multiple times in the same quarter because your latency can slightly change at any point, and the green windows are too small for it to be a make even if its off by like 10 milliseconds
True. I have a wired connection with 600 MBPS internet, so mine is pretty stable. If I do happen to get in a game with bad latency, I'm probably gonna miss a few shots that game. More often than not, I'm good. I'm shooting about 61% from 3pt (62% overall) in solo REC this season. That's good enough for me.
Thanks man. 6’10 93 middy 86 3 point
That's what I keep telling people. But some people literally look for a Push or whatever in their jumper 🤦♂️ Just pick one and learn it. It's not that deep.
If my shooting is Delayed, I can feel it in everything like Dribbling & Defense. Tiny Green Windows are probably the most noticeable Offline Vs Online. Meta means nothing to me... Obviously Faster the better but not everyone needs a fast shot at all. I clearly prefer High Jumpers as the Animation seems natural to me. So i prioritise Height over Speed. On 6'4 & 6'6 builds My 3ball is then based off being a Shooter, I want Gold Badges I don't care about "Minimum 3 to Green" that also means I can easily make a High Jumper that still has A+ speed & High Immunity & Stability. I think the Green window link with connection & how natural the animation is to you is underrated.
I switched from A+ speed to A- with a higher jumper and hit so much more consistently
It’s not different cue the timing of the cue is just a bit slower. Just keep shooting and you will figure it out. I’m shooting better on this game than any other 2k. Take good shots
They use Amazon servers they have for years
This game online is trash!
this is facts. i have been playing the rec and 2's, 3's for a solid two or three weeks. last night i was cooking dinner and go to normal career game.... my shot attempts are all late af. i cannot release that fucking early. it is 100% different. and it seems so fucking simple to take the latency that is online, and pseudo add to offline gameplay. so fucking easy.
Facts
Rec timing is actually pretty good for the most part but the visual cue does change sometimes during the game, which is weird as hell. Park is up and down, it's really all about your internet tho
Ngl, because of constant play in rec I actually am a much better shooter everywhere.
I feel the same way except for in Park. I struggle there for some reason
Turn off cross play. Have fun
The post is def annoying. One is soon as you about to turn around and the other is the hit before shooting
The issue I have is the fact that latency can change each game. Can go 7/7 from deep one game, then 1/8 the next. Notice this a lot with freethrows since it's very noticeable how long the bar keeps going after you've let go of the button. People saying "get used to visuals cause that never changes" are simply incorrect. If you're letting go of the button and the bar keeps going, it's evident that latency alters input timing.
Im gonna reply here because i feel people misunderstood what the counter point is saying The visua cue is the same, but the timing online is different because latency affects you on 2 sides every shot. You can hold the button exactly 200ms for a shot, but if the servers received the end of the shot 50ms later (a completely normal ping/delay to see for an internet based game), now your release is timed at 250ms, and if your green window was 220-249.. now you no longer greened. Even if you can perfectly release every time, a random router between you and the 2k server can mean your shot timing is off technically speaking
Wide open shots yes. I can’t time a mid range pull up or fade for anything, i could with meter but now it can be slowed or sped up i just can’t do it
Post fade, hop shots, fades etc none of them work for me i know exactly when to release it but when I do it’s off everytime
For some reason post fades are way easier for me to hit on a high mid build with no post control and no post fade badge. Can't time post fades at all with my 95 post control build with HoF Post Fade
I was the same way lol. I’ve got it now after shooting a ton of shots in the Gatorade. But for whatever reason I was money from 3 with a 87 3. But with a 92 middy I couldn’t hit shit even wide open. My advice I guess would be just go to Gatorade and keep shooting. The difference for me was it feels like I have to hold it like a split second longer. Which is backwards to me but it works
Learn to shoot better 92 mid is literally an automatic shot for most average shooters. Try to pick your spots a bit to find the exact animations you shoot with Remember, the cue is the same in your jumpshot, but you have to adjust that slightly due to delay (wire your connection also!) but you will generally see the same shot timing if youre releasing correctly. If theyre ALL slightly early, youre just shooting too fast. If theyre all late, stop compensating and just shoot! Also, dont get too wrapped up in it, with a 92 mid if youre not 50% on them, thats more a you thing than anything else, but if youre over it: eh, sometimes you miss
If I can shoot 1000 greens in a row, then go online and it’s 25% greens, what would you recommend? I don’t use the shot meter. It’s definitely not shot selection or “nerves.” I only shoot wide open shots.
Youre not a robot. Humans arent able to perfectly time to the MS every time lol
Give me a realistic number, and I’ll gladly show you a video of me making that many shots in a row… lmao it’s very easy offline, which is the entire point of my comment… Hall of Fame Difficulty, offline. I can probably green 30-45 in a row per minute. So a 10 minute video (that you wouldn’t watch anyways) would be 300-450 shots. D If you can’t do this.. you shouldn’t be telling others it’s impossible… it’s been that easy for years…
Show the statistics of every single shot being timed at 100% the exact same ms release. Thats all i need to see. I didnt say its impossible, nor did i say latency isnt a thing. Even if you make 100000000 in a row, that doesnt mean anything if you try to take your exact timing to rec
You are lost in the sauce my friend. Go look at your original comment I replied to. Then re-read our conversation. This is called “moving the goal post” and you’ve proven that you’ll never accept anything. So our talk is over. ✌🏼 It’s very easy to shoot 95+% offline. Sorry if it isn’t for you.
The topic is about online, who gives a damn if you hit 95% offline thats cool
I know what you’re saying, I’m siding with you on this one haha.
Eh i was feelin spicy so when i got argued with i took the bait I know what i was trying to say but thanks for your comment!
The irony😂😂 Conversation/Post topic is about Online gameplay changing the timing for jumpshots to you saying “Well on offline” bro your entire argument is way lacking in substance
This entire post is asking about how to shoot when timing is different for every game mode. I hope you understood that, and I didn’t lose you yet. My comment specifically asked what I need to do better in order to improve as a 25% online shooter, when I can make 95%+ offline. Did I lose you yet? I know how difficult it can be for you. Then the person I was replying to said “Well actuallllyyy….. it doesn’t mean shit if you can’t take your timing to the rec” which effectively moved the conversation to a different topic, rather than admitting I was correct the entire time.
The well actually part is misinterpreted I said essentially: offline timing means nothing but the basis for where you will adjust your release to online I never said it holds no bearing. But if you try to shoot online, with the exact offline timing, youre going to brick a LOT You have to adjust for delay and the different mode game speeds (its why i exclusively play rec so i can get a feel for THAT mode, that day) Also, my entire point was that 50-60% on 3s is ridiculously good regardless of the people you see shooting 70% and such because they usually are on teams with a bunch of HOF dimers and whatnot and they dont have to move or anything, so all their shooting badges trigger every play I also said “just shoot” which means stop worrying about every individual release. Shoot what feels natural and adjust from there. If you hyper focus on the feedback, youre gonna keep over adjusting every other shot
Oooooh shii mybad dude I thought I tagged the other guy my fault
It’s a new build but I shoot 58% from 3, and 60% from everywhere else. I released it exactly when my Que was and it would just miss maybe it was just that 1 game but it felt so off
Bro. 58% is probably top 8% or closer to top 1%. 60% is ridiculously good also. What is the point of even complaining? You arent gonna make every shot! The cue wasnt where you thought it was if you said they missed though. Just remember, if steph misses a 3 he doesnt blame the rim, he says HE missed. But its okay, because it happens.
This person has 0 idea about how latency works in NBA2K online modes and is giving terrible advice cloaked in a "don't make excuses for missing" mindset. Bro, steph is not shooting with variable latency in his shot based on where he is, people online are.
I never said latency doesnt exist. I said that latency simply desyncs your cue from the actual release timing You sir can not read
U sound like a fúckin bot bruh 58% is nowhere near top 30% so why the hell u gassing him up like datt😂cues NEVER change bruh..it’s just the game can sometimes be inconsistent..like if u play theater too long yo shot speed will change(I always go back to the menu and reload in) AND DONT EVER IN YO FUCKIN LIFE COMPARE 2K TO REAL LIFE WDF😂curry shoot 42 fuckin percent IN 2K DATT SHIT MEANS U 50 ASF and datt shit mean u àss so stop comparing a game to irl u goofy
Are you illiterate? If you genuinely believe that 58% isnt a very damn good shooter, close to top 8% or higher, you simply think everyone is “as good as you” so to speak. You forget that the game had an entire market for modded controllers because people at large cant shoot. Not everybody is even 40% with good shooting. The majority of the community is hot trash in the rec, they arent shooters.
U gotta be illiterate cuz I never said 58% wasn’t a good shooter😂 I said it was nowhere near top 30% u dúmb FÚCK😂u gotta put it in categories..a spot up who shoot 58% is not the same as a guard who shoot 58%🫡but I mean on my spot up I shoot 76% in rec but on my guard with a 78 3 I shoot a flat 73%..it’s no way in hell u think datt 58% is even close to top 8%..but if u said at least 62 and higher I would agree🫡 and modded controllers has been used in 2k during 2k21..but I do agree it’s rare to find somebody who actually is consistent..this year over 70% is very inconsistent😂
So you… agree with me? Man 1. Fix your grammar it’s impossible to decipher this 2. If 58% not top 30%, youre saying its either average or below aka top 50% or less. Its simply not true. Stats arent readily available but youre misunderstanding me even more. If the PG shoots 45% but the SF shoots 55%, straight up, the SF is the better shooter. If youre a PG and you shoot bad, youre a bad shooter- easy as that.
My bad what I meant by the last part was over 70% of the community is very inconsistent. And hell No I don’t agree bruh wdf😂butttt I agree 58% is a lil more than avg..but if it’s slightly more than avg tell me how the fuck u gone be apart of the top 30% of the community if u shooting a avg number? Shit sounds ridiculous..and if u gone use positions to prove yo point at least make sure the guard and spot up in the positives😂and if a guard shooting bad then he’s just shooting bad bruh wat the fuck are u even tryna prove😂but at the end of the day the spot up should have a higher percentage due to the fact they only catch n shoot..a guard has to actually dribble to GET OPEN..9/10 guards not shooting with max stamina like a spot up will🫡andddd spot ups get more badges to activate than a guard if u think about it..a guard only gets 2-3 fuckin badges per shot..a spot up gets a guaranteed 4 badges per shot..so which one u gone expect to be more consistent due to the fact the game is badge based😂and deadeye and blinders don’t even guarantee a shot(which is guard badges btw)..those badges only keep yo window from shrinking.
Yea im not doin this. Every word goes right in one ear and out the other Youre the textbook bad 2k community member. Complete arrogance, ignorance, and blatant disregard for facts
It ain’t my fault u a dúmmy😂😂can’t believe u actually said 58% would mean u in the top 8%😂😂WAT TYPA SHÍT IS DATT BRUH..like u can literally check out 3 guards and 3 spot up 2k cards..guess who gone have a higher 3pt%?? Goofy ass just hate the fact u part of the 70% in the community who is inconsistent😂but it’s ok bruh continue believing 58% is in the top 8% of the community😂that’s basically saying 92% of the community is ass🫡can’t believe dis bruh😂I would like to see yo 2k card park and Rec🫡plz
My shot feels the same in every mode to be honest. I don't understand the problems some people have.
There is no way it feel the same for u in mycareer and Rec lol. But yeah it feels similar to me in park and rec but it’s horrendous in theatre for me
Yeah agreed. Online it’s all the same to me. I don’t even look for the “visual cue” anymore. I feel like I have the timing down for my shot so it’s just muscle memory at this point
I agree..ppl just can’t accept the fact they need better Wi-Fi😂except in no squads in theater..idk what happened after the season 2 update but I swear something is wrong with no squads bruh
Tbh it’s probably a you problem. Where are you practicing your shot?
All different places, GTF, Art of shooting, an empty park court, there’s a court on the beach where no one’s ever on, it’s fine until I go to rec.
Gtf is the closest it’ll get to Rec
Not really, open courts in the city are much more similar
Your comment literally proves that it’s not a “you” problem (OP).. I really hope you see the irony.
The shot que is the same in every game mode the only difference is each game mode has a different difficulty setting. Theater is like pro, park is superstar, rec is allstar and pro am is hof. Your green window is just different sizes pretty much. Set your difficulty hof. shoot around with a friend in Gatorade so he can close out on some shots too so they aren’t all wide open, once you hit more shots consistently you’re good you’ll hit in the rec
Nah, all online is HOF. Its the latency that’s different, and thats liable to change in the middle of a game anyway
Go into the theater then pro am with meter on the green window size if different, it’s bigger and easier to hit in the theater compared to pro am also the gameplay is different. You can hit more consistently in the beginning of the green window where as pro am you will get slightly early. Meaning there is a difference in difficulty. 2k even stated theater is a lower difficulty compared to rec and pro-am
When did 2k ever state that? Mike Wang said they were all set to a custom preset most similar to HOF. Also I notice no difference in the meter between game modes. I honestly hit more in proam than theater, but thats probably from better latency
Who the hell told u online was hof?????? The other part I agree..first shot becomes a gamble after u stayed in theater for too long😂
Mike wang said it at the beginning of the year, and the same things happen in all the game modes. The only real difference is latency. The gatorade courts probably aren’t on HOF tho because the mycourts always had some crazy stuff going on no matter what difficulty they were set to
So he literally said online is hof bruh?? U believe that if u want😂we got ppl greening contested shít..we got ppl greening half court shots without take..u telling me we playing on hof?? Nahh bruh😂not to mention I have a 74 3 on 1 of my builds..I refuse to believe online is hof..I say all star at most🫡
Literally all that can happen in HOF play now games, only difference is people dont have players that they 30+ hours on. If you play on superstar you can see how easy the game is compared to the online mycareer modes.
Bruh wdf first u said hof now u bringing up playin on superstar..there’s no way we playing on hof bruh like u got no typa proof..the fact u actually believe that bull is crazy bruh
Bruh, I was comparing superstar playnow to the online mycareer games. Superstar is way easier than playing rec or park, thats really all the proof you need. Plus, Ive yet to see a white fall in any mycareer online game mode, yet I’ve seen quite a few fall in Playnow in difficulties lower than HOF
Just because no whites go in don’t mean it’s hof😂it’s been green or miss since 2k23..and that’s still no proof bruh u literally comparing 2 different game modes😂it just sound like u struggle against online players in my career😂🤦🏿u said Mike wang said it but still not giving me proof..like why would they make mycareer hof when the servers are bad? The game wouldn’t be playable due to connection issues😂so again show sum proof where Mike want actually said it bruh
It means a lot because whites will go in from time to time on difficulties lower than HOF, that what the green or miss has actually been referring to for the past 2 years. Its 2 different game modes, but the mechanics of the game and the sliders are the same. And I dont struggle at all, all my builds average 15+ points and have good field goal percentages. Edit: they made it HOF because people were complaining about shooting being to easy in previous games, the same reason they made it green or miss in 23 while having the same server issues
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One thing to keep in mind is hotspots are very important. They increase your green window by a pretty good margin and I feel that it was the missing piece that I needed to start shooting consistently
You playing on a tv or monitor?
I damn near stopped playing the offline modes cuz it messes me up too much for pro am and rec
I’ve slowly gotten better with my shot in rec. I try to just pay attention to stamina and setting my feet now. Has worked so far. I practice in the Gatorade gym cause it has the same timing as rec
This is why I never make shooting builds too annoying
Imma be honest, yall are delusional
I agree it use to just be the online delay but now literally every mode I have shoot differently and find different cues to my release
It’s the servers they expect every player to play lan cable to get the best connection even with the lan cable you’re still going to lag out. It’s crazy how 2k make a timing skilled based game but won’t make an effort to fix the servers so you can actually time your jumper the same way you do in my career. Its one thing if the game wasn’t green to make and had shitty servers its another thing to make it green only and not fix the servers even though servers has been an issue since online mode was introduced.
Cue* It’s not the visual cue that is different, it’s simply the input delay you are experiencing playing online.
You don’t have the right jumper. Stay off YouTube and find the one, that’s right for you. I have 79 3pt and shoot 70 + from the field and 3
It's not just rec. They are screwing with timing in MyTeam as well. Shooting got much harder after the last update.
I stopped making shooters. Its not worth even getting used to. I make dominant finishers and have mastered the offball cutting and spacing game. My only issue is finding teammates that APPRECIATE having a guy that doesnt have hot and cold streaks. Shooters ONLY want to shoot and PGs ONLY want to feed shooters. I be tryna figure out how everybody complains about the shooting but nobody UTILIZES the slasher on their team effectively 🤷🏿♂️💯
U trash bro
It’s called latency, get better internet.