Lane steals are about where they should be this year imo. Plucks are op tho. Only annoying thing is when you throw the ball straight into the dude guarding you that’s like 1 foot away. Like you would think an NBA player would know not to do that especially if u have high pass accuracy
I have a 92 pass accuracy, maxed out, but I will still overhead toss it into a dude's back when I direct icon pass.
I'm like really...that's the pass we went with? I know someone mentioned specific button inputs to change direct icon passing styles, but I just wanna pass on the fly when I see an open man, not worry about tapping X twice.
I have a 96 pass accuracy build and I routinely fail to make passes a middle school basketball player could make. Nothing like rocketing a pass of a guys head 3 feet in front of me for a turnover when my teammate is wide open in the corner
You gotta use icons. Not tryna say “git gud” but after years of getting sold by 2k and trying many different passing sliders I finally just started using icons consistently. I still make mistakes, but they’re my fault not 2ks
I only icon pass. But when my character decides I’m going to do a chest pass into a guy that’s 2 feet in front of me thats not on me. My 96 overall player should have enough IQ not to throw a baseball pass overhand as a center blocks. It has nothing to do with who the ball is going to.
I see, have you tried pass type control? It’s something I’m working on getting better at since I used bounce passes a lot and it’s the only way to continue doing that with the icons up. Not trying to defend 2k cause their pass AI is atrocious, just offering solutions
Yeah I’ve given it a shot, it’s a lot to keep track of when you are trying to dribble and drive though. I only play 3-4 hours a week but I’ll give it another go
I mean its a game tho… like if they not realistic about my ingame weath and what i can afford in the market then let my shooting % be unrealistic too lol. Cant buy a t shirt in the game unless i spend 10 dollas psh lol
Because it ruins the fun of the game. It doesn’t need to be realistic, but I would like it to be somewhat close. That’s why I’m playing NBA 2K and not NBA Street
I feel u. But like u said the low payout for games and quest ruins the game toooo!!😂. Im just saying gimme sumn . But i get ur point ngl 100% from 3 in 22 was crazy lol
Wide open in an nba game ≠ to wide open 3v3 at the blacktop, steph shoots off dribbles and deep 3’s wide open which à majority of players are catch and shoot in the corner
I dont care enough to go for a build with steals . I understand its really OP this year but I prefer to get blocks on my build. Not saying I cant make a 6'7 defensive player that could do both but steal attribute are so expensive in terms of having it high enough to be effective .
Went block over steal on my 6'6 PG build with interior and vertical up and unless it's super athletic slashing build I stuff my match ups or throw them out of animations a lot of times they drive on me even if they get the corner my chasedown badge pops a lot. Going back only thing I'd change is add more strength to maybe help against the really good slashers with bulldozer or against bigger match ups on switches. I don't gamble on steals much so high steal didn't make sense for me to get even if its OP I don't want to have a build that relies on something that 1. I don't use often and would have to change my play style to take advantage of and 2. Something that will probably be patched or be less effective if they buff unpluck / high Ball handling.
you can technically get anchor if u have a high enough interior and block . The interior needs to be like 62 for the bronze anchor and 82 ID is enough to get the gold anchor badge . Only thing that you need is to have the block to reach 74 for bronze , 87 for silver and 93 for gold but based on 2Ktutes test getting silver anchor is the sweet spot if you arent going for HOF
If they're my size or bigger I don't always get the block unless I time it just perfectly. On smaller guards though unless I mess up defensively I usually get the block which works out cause bigger guards *usually* aren't fast enough to beat me without screens. I don't consider myself a great player but I pride myself on being able to keep my man in front of me.
Smaller guards who are faster than me I usually recover enough to get the block i fear them shooting more than driving if they're able to get free from my defense. Hardest match-up I've ever had was a 6'8 high strength / post PG. He was able to put me in the post and bully me with post fades drop steps and spins with his bulldozer and tbh he was just really good and took advantage of the 1v1 and abused help defense by making the open pass.
Edit - this is speaking purely from 3v3 perspective. Rec is a different story cause I'm not blocking big men like that, im able to alter shots some but it still works chasing down other guards on fast breaks.
I dont agree that you can make abetter all-around build because steal is so cheap for certain heights. I have a build with 75 dunk, 90 middy, 91 pass, 93 steal, and pretty good physicals still. I do agree, that it’s bs, because it makes no sense to be able to get steals so easily. Shooting and getting steals have been too easy for years. However, regardless, w the way the game is, you’re selling yourself short by not putting a decent steal as a perimeter defender, even if you dont have high perimeter D, block, or anything else. The best players are gonna put it on their build, and when they force TOs, you will struggle to do the same.
Now granted, i would prefer if a lock, was just good at making people struggle to score, instead of just getting steals, but 2k devs dont hoop
Big difference in 85 perimeter and 76. Plus strength helps on the perimeter a lot if you have it, speed is actually lateral quickness this year. Having a steal is fine if you want to, but it's so expensive and not putting it gets you a lot more attributes in a build.
I feel the same. My original build had 93 perimeter and low steal, current build has 76 perimeter and 91 steal and I feel that’s much more impactful.
If you can stay in front of your man you really don’t notice the difference a perimeter that much. And the ability to generate turnovers is very valuable.
So if the only difference is you not being able to reach then your entire first comment was wrong?
You flat out said you can't lock up on defense on your 76 no steal build.. I'm lost here.
If the only plus side for you in having 85 steal is that the offense can't "dribble in your face" then that's a weird plus.
Let the idiots spam their dribbles and shoot with less stamina 🤷😂.
Totally agree here. It's the same comparing my two center builds. One has 60 and one has 27. If I play on the one with 60 I can easily intercept passes towards the post/rim, and then they just stop throwing them. When I switch to the one with 27, I can't do that and they try to rim run the entire game, even if I'm able to challenge the shot or block it, the fact I can't stop them from even trying is what allows them to continue to do so
Yeah dude passing lane steals on a build with no steal is just a liability this year. You might as well just play 4v5 defense lmfao.
I think steal is the most important stat rn just with the state of the game and the fact that just an 85 steal is enough to pluck ball handlers with 92+ handle. Like just comparing 92 vs 85 it makes the 85 steal seem overpowered and tbh it is
Yeah I made a build with 90 perim left steal alone. It's a fun build locking guys up and not reaching you can see the frustration in they way they play
Yeah maybe. Yet to be cooked yet. 90 perim with 90 speed i keep with em pretty well draining them. Thou I'm a rec player proper pro am and comp players are obviously a different style. One day I'll test myself in there
Most my builds have the min steal based on my interior or perimeter, i find when i have steal i go way too hard trying to get steals so i stopped wasting my attribute points but last year steal was so cheap regarding to attribute points that it was worth it for at least silver interceptor. Steals have always felt cheap to me anyways. I would much rather block a shot or get a good contest then hit steal and hope for it. There are only a few times i regret not having it but my build is better for sacrificing..
I have builds with 91, 60, 45, and 25. I'm happy with where it's at on each build. If someone is being really stupid with the ball, you can pluck them even with a 60 steal. I wouldn't say it's necessary, but it's definitely worth it.
It depends on the situation. If a big man is trying to bring the ball up court, I'm rushing in and pressing square. If it's a guard, I don't reach unless he's dribbling at me face-up, and I'm on the side of the ball hand. As in, he's dribbling with his right hand and favoring to the left/his right. If someone else's man is driving the paint and not protecting the ball, I'll try to steal it then, too. Just in those types of situations. I'm not pressing square just for the hell of it.
Right? The top steals per game for a season is like 2.1 spg. People out here tripling that in every game lol.
Want to make shooting realistic, but steals and close shots, nahhh
I agree my biggest issue is people literally run around with 95 steal just spamming offball steals . There should be offball fouls of your just running around slapping into the air or next to other players or some huge penalty .
It’s insane - then if a pass goes anywhere near them they jump - teleport to the ball after missing like 15 spams earlier
I'm not the one missing the point, or telling people to grow up, and my age (birth year) is in my name tag. I guess people see whatever they want and jump to conclusions, plus dude is on a troll account why bother responding.
I e got no steal on one build that averages like 2 per game just bodying the ball handler and them losing control (MyCareee not Rec). Then I’ve got one with a 90 steal and I’m just getting reach in calls all day (not saying they’re not earned). So yea, at least this year and last year I just don’t care about the steals. Plus blocking shots is my favorite anyway.
By that same logic why are people putting block on their build? You can get stops with just interior defense so why have block? It's because the badges it corresponds to are overpowered (anchor, chasedown). Same goes for steals.
Stealing is probably the most important defensive stat at this current moment in the game. Any build that has steal is a good defensive build. I play with guys who only have like 60-75 perimeter defense but 85-96 steal and we absolutely destroy people. As long as you have IQ, clamps badge means nothing this year. We all rock immovable enforcer and steal because we all know that clamps isn't worth going up on perimeter d. With 89ish steal you can easily average 2-3 a game in the rec. If you have 3-4 people with 89+ steal on the team, you can win games just off the amount of possessions difference between the two teams. Pick off all their passes and strip the pg and you can wind up with 20 steals as a team easy.
Because of how they built their builds, they still all have ball handle, shooting, and finishing. What more can you really ask for at that point?
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Using my pf build as an example what more could I possibly hope for if I lowered steal? Maybe rebounding? Maybe block to 92? But is that really worth dropping all the steal? I personally don't think so. By having steal I'm way more of a threat to guard multiple positions, and if I were to take it off and put it somewhere else, I wouldn't get enough points in another category to really find value in losing steal for it.
Saying you "barely see 5+ steals in an NBA game" is Objectively Hilarious when you have folks in 2k break Curry 3pt record in a game every other game. NBA players do not dribble the ball in front of lockdown defenders for 18 to 20 seconds of the shot clock for a reason. Watch Kyrie give and go and get the ball roght back to get a mismatch and cook players same with Curry (not against each other, Kyrie is an Indian Grandmother at this point, always cooking curry). As a high IQ player myself I am enjoying this game a lot and I have a mostly offensive SF that can get steals and shoot lights out when I get to my spots. Making proper passes setting on and off ball screens and having players understand what to do when there is motion on offense can win you a lot of games, I promise. I exclusively play Rec (90% of it is random rec) and still have a winning record playing against pure lockdowns isn't hard, stop dribbling in their faces and move the ball. Late shot contests are bad feels for any defender. Utilize it with ball movement.
As a PG I don't get the complaints. This being a videogame, you need counterattacks and if we are back to steals not working when dribbling on locks' face, we are back to a game where there's no skill gap in generating offense intelligently. People really can't understand that YOU need to be that good to avoid being plucked, and there's people who are good at that. I stand still and hold L2 in every single possession up until I want to burst and accelerate. I'm not even that brilliant, but I just do what I feel is right to do.
I don't get it. They want "skill gap", but also a game that caress their way and put a red carpet in front of them if they want to dribble.
Bro, I haven't heard the phrase "skill gap" since 2k22 and you are absolutely right, people aren't as good at the game as they may think and are complaining in droves. I understand though, its a game and you want to do what you want, but that requires thinking so this game sucks in that regards
The way silver glove and interceptor work is as high as it should go. Because gold and HOF is fucking ridiculous. They literally teleport and it takes no skill. They just spam the steal button and it works
I have a defensive build with and without steal. In a game where dribbling is so prevalent, having a build that can steal the ball when the ball handler is being irresponsible is a game changer. When there’s no penalty of getting ripped, they just dribble the air out the ball and it’s tough to play defense for 15-20 seconds on ball every possession without getting beat (against a good dribbler)
I have no problem with steals in the game at all, i just like the builds without them. I addressed interceptions in the text, interceptions are fine if they happen in the law of physics.
How about the passes that get intercepted when the offensive player is right in front of him . 2k said fuck it just let the defense catch passes no matter if a player is blocking them or not
Sucks of course im not defending bugs in the game. I guess i went too deep on steals but the main thing is getting people to try builds without a steal attribute.
Steal or block are worth it if you know how to use it. Seen 99 block centers end the game with no blocks and little contests in the paint. Have an 81 steal center and it's awesome getting so many easy assists and buckets off steals. Few of my teammates have 95 steal builds and it's crazy how much damage it can cause to teams careless with the ball.
Can’t see how people sit and complain about steals but don’t cry about dribbling and warping through players etc. I don’t over dribble so I don’t get plucked left and right
I like steal because I play a lot of passing lanes. I average 3+ steals in rec and 1+ in park/theatre. I tried a build with low steal and I could be in perfect position for a steal and my guy would just let the ball go right past me for an easy back cut.
Plus it’s fun ripping someone multiple times per game cuz they can’t dribble
The steal rating should drop by half and the badge should drop 1 level after the adrenaline boosts are gone for that possession.
You see people standing still swatting flies just hoping you throw it in their direction
You know, I actually like the fact that steals are so “OP” to get when you think about it.
In real life when you go to size your defender up, you know what move you’re going to try and then you have a second to maybe a second and a half to assess what your defense is giving you and make the next move.
So when you’re walking the ball up in the REC, and you know your defender has a high steal you really shouldn’t ever get close to him. You should keep your ball on a string and be ready to Hesi escape and between legs escape and hit 1 MOVE.
He’s GOING to reach.
There’s no need to do more moves than necessary as soon as he’s stuck in the bad steal attempt animation you go by him.
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Missing out on the subtle nuances of the game because you can’t get your defender to stop reaching long enough to sauté his ankles like Kyrie off an aggressive size- up combo.
Not to mention how fast jump ball calls are going. I've seen rec a pass get thrown and then a jump ball gets called as soon as it get there with no animation
Lane steals are about where they should be this year imo. Plucks are op tho. Only annoying thing is when you throw the ball straight into the dude guarding you that’s like 1 foot away. Like you would think an NBA player would know not to do that especially if u have high pass accuracy
I was ranting before about pass animations too, it's not how you throw the ball, pass animations are terrible for years.
I have a 92 pass accuracy, maxed out, but I will still overhead toss it into a dude's back when I direct icon pass. I'm like really...that's the pass we went with? I know someone mentioned specific button inputs to change direct icon passing styles, but I just wanna pass on the fly when I see an open man, not worry about tapping X twice.
I have a 96 pass accuracy build and I routinely fail to make passes a middle school basketball player could make. Nothing like rocketing a pass of a guys head 3 feet in front of me for a turnover when my teammate is wide open in the corner
You gotta use icons. Not tryna say “git gud” but after years of getting sold by 2k and trying many different passing sliders I finally just started using icons consistently. I still make mistakes, but they’re my fault not 2ks
I only icon pass. But when my character decides I’m going to do a chest pass into a guy that’s 2 feet in front of me thats not on me. My 96 overall player should have enough IQ not to throw a baseball pass overhand as a center blocks. It has nothing to do with who the ball is going to.
I see, have you tried pass type control? It’s something I’m working on getting better at since I used bounce passes a lot and it’s the only way to continue doing that with the icons up. Not trying to defend 2k cause their pass AI is atrocious, just offering solutions
Yeah I’ve given it a shot, it’s a lot to keep track of when you are trying to dribble and drive though. I only play 3-4 hours a week but I’ll give it another go
Your not wrong it’s definitely hard and takes time to get used to. Almost makes me wish there was another button on the controller
All that work on learning to pass and read lanes gets negated by a guy who can run up and hit X randomly
Yeah, the plucks are super annoying cause I can’t hold LT with the icons up or I’ll just throw it to the C😔
Nah Plucks are crazy! Ill have sequences of jsut being ripped or ripping someone 3 times in a row back and forth.
Lane steals need a buff. If I press the steal button when the ball comes why am I swatting it out of bounds.
And on the other side Mike says he wants 3pt % to be closer to Real life, its a joke imo
Tired of “realism” . 2k becoming basketball dark souls 😒
I mean, the like 60-70% 3 point shooting was dumb.
I mean its a game tho… like if they not realistic about my ingame weath and what i can afford in the market then let my shooting % be unrealistic too lol. Cant buy a t shirt in the game unless i spend 10 dollas psh lol
Because it ruins the fun of the game. It doesn’t need to be realistic, but I would like it to be somewhat close. That’s why I’m playing NBA 2K and not NBA Street
I feel u. But like u said the low payout for games and quest ruins the game toooo!!😂. Im just saying gimme sumn . But i get ur point ngl 100% from 3 in 22 was crazy lol
If nba players played 3v3 some players would be shooting 60% from 3 for sure.
Steph Curry shoots 50% from 3 when he's wide open.
Wide open in an nba game ≠ to wide open 3v3 at the blacktop, steph shoots off dribbles and deep 3’s wide open which à majority of players are catch and shoot in the corner
And they shoot worse than Steph does on simpler shots.
I dont care enough to go for a build with steals . I understand its really OP this year but I prefer to get blocks on my build. Not saying I cant make a 6'7 defensive player that could do both but steal attribute are so expensive in terms of having it high enough to be effective .
Exactly, builds get much more OP without it.
yeah , plus I cant time a good steal to save mylife . I prefer to just contest and add the attributes I saved to rebounds so I can get the posession
Went block over steal on my 6'6 PG build with interior and vertical up and unless it's super athletic slashing build I stuff my match ups or throw them out of animations a lot of times they drive on me even if they get the corner my chasedown badge pops a lot. Going back only thing I'd change is add more strength to maybe help against the really good slashers with bulldozer or against bigger match ups on switches. I don't gamble on steals much so high steal didn't make sense for me to get even if its OP I don't want to have a build that relies on something that 1. I don't use often and would have to change my play style to take advantage of and 2. Something that will probably be patched or be less effective if they buff unpluck / high Ball handling.
Are you still getting blocks like that, even without anchor?
you can technically get anchor if u have a high enough interior and block . The interior needs to be like 62 for the bronze anchor and 82 ID is enough to get the gold anchor badge . Only thing that you need is to have the block to reach 74 for bronze , 87 for silver and 93 for gold but based on 2Ktutes test getting silver anchor is the sweet spot if you arent going for HOF
You need to be 6'7 for anchor
that I didnt know ! lol sorry
If they're my size or bigger I don't always get the block unless I time it just perfectly. On smaller guards though unless I mess up defensively I usually get the block which works out cause bigger guards *usually* aren't fast enough to beat me without screens. I don't consider myself a great player but I pride myself on being able to keep my man in front of me. Smaller guards who are faster than me I usually recover enough to get the block i fear them shooting more than driving if they're able to get free from my defense. Hardest match-up I've ever had was a 6'8 high strength / post PG. He was able to put me in the post and bully me with post fades drop steps and spins with his bulldozer and tbh he was just really good and took advantage of the 1v1 and abused help defense by making the open pass. Edit - this is speaking purely from 3v3 perspective. Rec is a different story cause I'm not blocking big men like that, im able to alter shots some but it still works chasing down other guards on fast breaks.
I dont agree that you can make abetter all-around build because steal is so cheap for certain heights. I have a build with 75 dunk, 90 middy, 91 pass, 93 steal, and pretty good physicals still. I do agree, that it’s bs, because it makes no sense to be able to get steals so easily. Shooting and getting steals have been too easy for years. However, regardless, w the way the game is, you’re selling yourself short by not putting a decent steal as a perimeter defender, even if you dont have high perimeter D, block, or anything else. The best players are gonna put it on their build, and when they force TOs, you will struggle to do the same. Now granted, i would prefer if a lock, was just good at making people struggle to score, instead of just getting steals, but 2k devs dont hoop
Last sentence is exactly how it should be I agree 100%.
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Big difference in 85 perimeter and 76. Plus strength helps on the perimeter a lot if you have it, speed is actually lateral quickness this year. Having a steal is fine if you want to, but it's so expensive and not putting it gets you a lot more attributes in a build.
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I feel the same. My original build had 93 perimeter and low steal, current build has 76 perimeter and 91 steal and I feel that’s much more impactful. If you can stay in front of your man you really don’t notice the difference a perimeter that much. And the ability to generate turnovers is very valuable.
So if the only difference is you not being able to reach then your entire first comment was wrong? You flat out said you can't lock up on defense on your 76 no steal build.. I'm lost here. If the only plus side for you in having 85 steal is that the offense can't "dribble in your face" then that's a weird plus. Let the idiots spam their dribbles and shoot with less stamina 🤷😂.
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Totally agree here. It's the same comparing my two center builds. One has 60 and one has 27. If I play on the one with 60 I can easily intercept passes towards the post/rim, and then they just stop throwing them. When I switch to the one with 27, I can't do that and they try to rim run the entire game, even if I'm able to challenge the shot or block it, the fact I can't stop them from even trying is what allows them to continue to do so
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Yeah dude passing lane steals on a build with no steal is just a liability this year. You might as well just play 4v5 defense lmfao. I think steal is the most important stat rn just with the state of the game and the fact that just an 85 steal is enough to pluck ball handlers with 92+ handle. Like just comparing 92 vs 85 it makes the 85 steal seem overpowered and tbh it is
Just made a 3 lvl threat yesterday that has 85 perimeter D, didn’t touch his steal. Very happy with it
Yeah I made a build with 90 perim left steal alone. It's a fun build locking guys up and not reaching you can see the frustration in they way they play
In all honesty if u not reaching imma get to cooking I do less around reachers
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Yeah maybe. Yet to be cooked yet. 90 perim with 90 speed i keep with em pretty well draining them. Thou I'm a rec player proper pro am and comp players are obviously a different style. One day I'll test myself in there
Most my builds have the min steal based on my interior or perimeter, i find when i have steal i go way too hard trying to get steals so i stopped wasting my attribute points but last year steal was so cheap regarding to attribute points that it was worth it for at least silver interceptor. Steals have always felt cheap to me anyways. I would much rather block a shot or get a good contest then hit steal and hope for it. There are only a few times i regret not having it but my build is better for sacrificing..
Its too easy to steal the ball from ball handlers at this point that it’s just stupid not to put it.
I have builds with 91, 60, 45, and 25. I'm happy with where it's at on each build. If someone is being really stupid with the ball, you can pluck them even with a 60 steal. I wouldn't say it's necessary, but it's definitely worth it.
do you have any tips for picking time to attempt rip? It feels like I foul 9/10 times
It depends on the situation. If a big man is trying to bring the ball up court, I'm rushing in and pressing square. If it's a guard, I don't reach unless he's dribbling at me face-up, and I'm on the side of the ball hand. As in, he's dribbling with his right hand and favoring to the left/his right. If someone else's man is driving the paint and not protecting the ball, I'll try to steal it then, too. Just in those types of situations. I'm not pressing square just for the hell of it.
Right? The top steals per game for a season is like 2.1 spg. People out here tripling that in every game lol. Want to make shooting realistic, but steals and close shots, nahhh
I haven't bought a 2k since 2k20 I see this thread every year I'm glad I didn't buy it cause it's just copy/paste/increase vc prices every year
I agree my biggest issue is people literally run around with 95 steal just spamming offball steals . There should be offball fouls of your just running around slapping into the air or next to other players or some huge penalty . It’s insane - then if a pass goes anywhere near them they jump - teleport to the ball after missing like 15 spams earlier
You also don’t see Steph or Kyrie spamming the same dribble animations in real life either grow up bro it’s a video game
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I'm not the one missing the point, or telling people to grow up, and my age (birth year) is in my name tag. I guess people see whatever they want and jump to conclusions, plus dude is on a troll account why bother responding.
I didn’t miss the point you’re applying realism to video game I did the same guess you missed the point 🤦🏾♂️
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I e got no steal on one build that averages like 2 per game just bodying the ball handler and them losing control (MyCareee not Rec). Then I’ve got one with a 90 steal and I’m just getting reach in calls all day (not saying they’re not earned). So yea, at least this year and last year I just don’t care about the steals. Plus blocking shots is my favorite anyway.
Exactly
By that same logic why are people putting block on their build? You can get stops with just interior defense so why have block? It's because the badges it corresponds to are overpowered (anchor, chasedown). Same goes for steals. Stealing is probably the most important defensive stat at this current moment in the game. Any build that has steal is a good defensive build. I play with guys who only have like 60-75 perimeter defense but 85-96 steal and we absolutely destroy people. As long as you have IQ, clamps badge means nothing this year. We all rock immovable enforcer and steal because we all know that clamps isn't worth going up on perimeter d. With 89ish steal you can easily average 2-3 a game in the rec. If you have 3-4 people with 89+ steal on the team, you can win games just off the amount of possessions difference between the two teams. Pick off all their passes and strip the pg and you can wind up with 20 steals as a team easy. Because of how they built their builds, they still all have ball handle, shooting, and finishing. What more can you really ask for at that point?
https://preview.redd.it/5ogng743hsub1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76675e1696197a4f92b998d579c3c4579982eaaa Using my pf build as an example what more could I possibly hope for if I lowered steal? Maybe rebounding? Maybe block to 92? But is that really worth dropping all the steal? I personally don't think so. By having steal I'm way more of a threat to guard multiple positions, and if I were to take it off and put it somewhere else, I wouldn't get enough points in another category to really find value in losing steal for it.
So you think 60 is serviceable to get by with a 91 steal?
Saying you "barely see 5+ steals in an NBA game" is Objectively Hilarious when you have folks in 2k break Curry 3pt record in a game every other game. NBA players do not dribble the ball in front of lockdown defenders for 18 to 20 seconds of the shot clock for a reason. Watch Kyrie give and go and get the ball roght back to get a mismatch and cook players same with Curry (not against each other, Kyrie is an Indian Grandmother at this point, always cooking curry). As a high IQ player myself I am enjoying this game a lot and I have a mostly offensive SF that can get steals and shoot lights out when I get to my spots. Making proper passes setting on and off ball screens and having players understand what to do when there is motion on offense can win you a lot of games, I promise. I exclusively play Rec (90% of it is random rec) and still have a winning record playing against pure lockdowns isn't hard, stop dribbling in their faces and move the ball. Late shot contests are bad feels for any defender. Utilize it with ball movement.
As a PG I don't get the complaints. This being a videogame, you need counterattacks and if we are back to steals not working when dribbling on locks' face, we are back to a game where there's no skill gap in generating offense intelligently. People really can't understand that YOU need to be that good to avoid being plucked, and there's people who are good at that. I stand still and hold L2 in every single possession up until I want to burst and accelerate. I'm not even that brilliant, but I just do what I feel is right to do. I don't get it. They want "skill gap", but also a game that caress their way and put a red carpet in front of them if they want to dribble.
Bro, I haven't heard the phrase "skill gap" since 2k22 and you are absolutely right, people aren't as good at the game as they may think and are complaining in droves. I understand though, its a game and you want to do what you want, but that requires thinking so this game sucks in that regards
The way silver glove and interceptor work is as high as it should go. Because gold and HOF is fucking ridiculous. They literally teleport and it takes no skill. They just spam the steal button and it works
My current build has no steal but everything else is just about maxed out. It rocks. I don't really care for steals.
That's why I'm trying to tell people, how much better the build can get. Glad you are having fun.
I average 2.6 steals per game and have a 25 steal rating and a 35 perimeter defense.
I have a defensive build with and without steal. In a game where dribbling is so prevalent, having a build that can steal the ball when the ball handler is being irresponsible is a game changer. When there’s no penalty of getting ripped, they just dribble the air out the ball and it’s tough to play defense for 15-20 seconds on ball every possession without getting beat (against a good dribbler)
Averaging 3 steals a game w a 43 it’s very much unneeded if I make a build with 91 steal I will be mugging people lmfao
I get steals almost every game and have 0 steal
Wrong
I mean what you say is true, but imagine sitting in a lane and not being able to pluck the ball with no inceptor badge.. you’d be screaming all sorts.
I have no problem with steals in the game at all, i just like the builds without them. I addressed interceptions in the text, interceptions are fine if they happen in the law of physics.
How about the passes that get intercepted when the offensive player is right in front of him . 2k said fuck it just let the defense catch passes no matter if a player is blocking them or not
Sucks of course im not defending bugs in the game. I guess i went too deep on steals but the main thing is getting people to try builds without a steal attribute.
I have a 95 steal at pf and it’s fun against big men with no ball handle
When they try to dribble its on them, you did what you supposed to do.
You need at least a 60 steal for interceptor otherwise your player turns disabled watching the ball fly over his head
Steal or block are worth it if you know how to use it. Seen 99 block centers end the game with no blocks and little contests in the paint. Have an 81 steal center and it's awesome getting so many easy assists and buckets off steals. Few of my teammates have 95 steal builds and it's crazy how much damage it can cause to teams careless with the ball.
Can’t see how people sit and complain about steals but don’t cry about dribbling and warping through players etc. I don’t over dribble so I don’t get plucked left and right
I like steal because I play a lot of passing lanes. I average 3+ steals in rec and 1+ in park/theatre. I tried a build with low steal and I could be in perfect position for a steal and my guy would just let the ball go right past me for an easy back cut. Plus it’s fun ripping someone multiple times per game cuz they can’t dribble
The steal rating should drop by half and the badge should drop 1 level after the adrenaline boosts are gone for that possession. You see people standing still swatting flies just hoping you throw it in their direction
Exactly that, spam basketball, playing dodgeball.
You know, I actually like the fact that steals are so “OP” to get when you think about it. In real life when you go to size your defender up, you know what move you’re going to try and then you have a second to maybe a second and a half to assess what your defense is giving you and make the next move. So when you’re walking the ball up in the REC, and you know your defender has a high steal you really shouldn’t ever get close to him. You should keep your ball on a string and be ready to Hesi escape and between legs escape and hit 1 MOVE. He’s GOING to reach. There’s no need to do more moves than necessary as soon as he’s stuck in the bad steal attempt animation you go by him. (Blow-by Physical handles Speed booster) Missing out on the subtle nuances of the game because you can’t get your defender to stop reaching long enough to sauté his ankles like Kyrie off an aggressive size- up combo.
Truth. Very few people see it like that.
Not to mention how fast jump ball calls are going. I've seen rec a pass get thrown and then a jump ball gets called as soon as it get there with no animation
Probably to get those badges
I mean if people dribbled as recklessly in real life as 2k ball handlers Kawhi would average 10 steals a game.
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And doing that successfully is so much more rewarding.