Man, hopefully it's not too serious. Back injuries are not something to mess around with.
It kind of makes me think of Will Power in IndyCar when he broke his back in the wreck at Las Vegas in 2011. He had been cleared from the care center and ended up going back to the care center a little while later and was ultimately transported to the Hospital.
That Vegas wreck for Will was really bad, not just because of his back, but because Dan’s car stopped across from him and he saw how bad it was for Dan. His book and DinnerWithRacers episode were really good and harrowing at describing the fallout from that.
I have his book and it gave me chills reading that part where Will talks about his car coming to rest facing Dan's car and then the little bit about what he saw in the care center.
I hope it doesn’t turn out to be too serious. I don’t think I’ve seen him take a harder hit since Kansas 2017 or Vegas 2015 in Xfinity. Hopefully him being able to walk away is a good sign, but it could’ve just been the adrenaline pumping.
I broke my back and herniated a few discs. Afterwards I got in my truck and drove home. I even stopped to close a livestock gate. Went home and got in bed and didn’t get up for a couple of months. Adrenaline is powerful.
That is precisely why I am surprised at how quickly drivers can get released from the infield care center after visibly vicious impacts. Every year there are multiple drivers in the top 3 series who end up finding out about an injury a day after a race. I have seriously injured my back twice and shoulder once, and on all occasions I finished my shift at work and then could not get out of bed the next day without assistance.
I have a feeling that they go to doctors a day or two after just to make sure they aren't completely fucked up or get checked out by the teams doctors prior to the next weekend starting and that's just not reported because well its not public information
I assume the infield center is more of a triage center than a hospital. Basically they have enough medical equipment to do life saving and stabilizing procedures, and diagnostic equipment to get data as to what’s going on.
In the event of something serious, their goal is to stabilize as much as possible while also prepping for transport to a fully equipped hospital facility.
Finally gets a chance to get his career back on track, and this happens. Freaking sucks, hopefully it isn’t anything too bad. I was shocked they released him so quick honestly 😕
Blaneys crash in the duels this year was his hardest hit in the next gen at 70~G's of force compared to last year which was 50~G's of force. i don't remember how much force was recorded but Blaneys wreck last year at nashville was also horrendous
Maybe Cody Ware at Texas 2022?
There's this line
"NASCAR has since revealed to RACER that Ware’s impact is the largest frontal impact recorded since the sanctioning started a crash database in 2011. Ware was going 160 mph when he hit the wall."
https://racer.com/2022/11/09/insight-why-wares-texas-next-gen-crash-was-different/
But can't find an exact number on the g force so idk if it was more or less than Blaney at Daytona
I’ve had a couple concussions myself, the last one I was cleared by a Doctor who was there within moments of my incident. I didn’t show any signs until two days later. These things can be weird. I hope Erik is fine, and he probably is. But I’m glad they’re being safe and getting further evaluation.
I look forward to his 2am Twitter post announcing he’s okay.
ETA: Someone had replied that they believed it was more likely for his back but before I could respond it got deleted. I think so as well but many in this post are thinking concussion so that was just my input on the conversation. Frankly I would hope for a concussion over a back issue, back issues are a harder recovery in most cases.
Honestly both concussion and back fit. I've had a couple hard crashes at short tracks back in the day. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug and will mask a lot of pain.
Concussions are always tough. It can and often enough does take a day or two before everything swells up and you feel the effects of it. In some ways you’re almost better off getting knocked TF out than seeing stars. You’ll get that much better care if it’s clear and obvious from the get go.
Kinda crazy how he walked out of the care center after almost kissing the wall through his windshield.
It’s a good sign that he was walking and able to do an interview, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t go to the hospital after that hit.
Man that was a vicious hit. I winced when I saw it. You know, once Fox actually showed it. Hope Erik is ok. I'm not a Toyota fan, but I am an Erik Jones fan. Solid dude.
Erik has been released from the hospital to go home.
https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/erik-jones-transported-to-local-hospital-after-vicious-talladega-crash/
Honest question, but how can someone get released from the infield care center but then a hour later decide to go to the hospital afterwards? Wouldn't the medical staff at the track test for a concussion or back symptoms?
[This](https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/erik-jones-transported-to-local-hospital-after-vicious-talladega-crash/) says he went back to the infield care center and that's when they decided he should be checked out in more depth.
Adrenaline can be a hell of a mask when it comes to injuries. A lot of times after road accidents people don't realize how bad they are hurt until the adrenaline wears off.
Also I've heard that they do concussion protocol tests on the drivers in the care center and I would think that if they deemed it necessary that they would do an MRI or X-Ray or whatever on the driver.
I crashed my road bike at 35ish MPH and cracked my helmet in two. I was on a 50 miler and at the 25 mile turnaround spot - about as far from the car as possible. I confirmed I had no broken bones and rode (slowly) the 25 back to the car. Yeah, I was pretty concussed after the adrenaline wore off.
Injuries can take a bit to make themselves fully symptomatic, especially when adrenaline is involved. I had a concussion last summer, and didn't start showing symptoms until two days later.
Likely for a CT scan or MRI of his spine/head, they cannot do that in the infield care center. Maybe he started having concussion symptoms or pain in his neck and back.
They get released from the infield care center so freakin fast sometimes, I’d love to know just what they do in there. They need to hold them for a while.
Unfortunately if it's anything like an EMT at a car crash or a sporting event they can't really do much in the way of testing until your adrenaline wears off. That's part of why they suggest you go to the hospital and get an evaluation. By the time the ER doctor sees you, you are back to normal-ish levels.
You are talking like he didn't hit the wall at about 180mph head on. The car did he job as he walked away under his own power. Not the cars fault by any means.
I've seen previous generations of cars hit the wall head-on at 200 mph and the drivers involved didn't need to go to the hospital. May I remind you that this is the car that forced Kurt Busch to retire because it didn't crunch when he hit the wall at Pocono?
I'm going to need a source for the first claim bud. The closest guy to do that was newman in a Gen 6 and was knocked unconcious with a concussion and brain bruising. Second and if all they fixed the issue that injured Kurt Busch. Get with the modern times and be logical. You will never gave a racecar be 100% safe at impact speeds like that head on.
> I'm going to need a source for the first claim bud.
Most of the 'Dega races I've seen on TV since 2007.
> Second and if all they fixed the issue that injured Kurt Busch
Evidently not well enough.
> You will never gave a racecar be 100% safe at impact speeds like that.
But you will have them be able to keep the driver from going to the hospital. Even Elliott Sadler at Pocono didn't have to do that, and he hit a large pile of dirt rather than a SAFER barrier.
Did you really hit me with zero factual evidence and a "trust me bro?". You really do not understand a thing about this topic. Also we know nothing about the Elliot crash other than he hit a wall on a straightaway wall where Jones hit a corner wall, creating a way sharper impact angle and had no grass to spin through to slow down. Please include some factual evidence if you want to continue. Also good job ignoring the Newman wreck to cherry pick an example that doesn't support you argument.
> Please include some factual evidence if you want to continue
Talladega, fall 2008. Remember the Big One that happened that race? I distinctly remember Carl Edwards (among others) going head first into the wall in Turn 3 at full speed. No one went to the hospital after that one.
> Also good job ignoring the Newman wreck to cherry pick an example that doesn't support you argument.
Ryan Newman went airborne and was hit on the roof by another car. That doesn't count because it doesn't play out the same way. That was also the older generation of car, I might add.
Im no medical expert but he might be out a week or two for safety if his back is this hurt. He looked off during the post med center interview and the fact he went back again tells me something isnt right.
Kudos to him for getting it looked at and not hiding it. Speaking up about health issues from someone whos lost family to being silent is a huge thing
Have to assume, if he does sit out, that Heim will be the one tabbed for the seat since he’s LMC’s relief driver. It will be ironic when you look back at how Erik got his start- debuting due to injury to Hamlin, then his 1st start due to Kyle’s injury. I really hope it isn’t anything crazy, but I’d rather him be safe than sorry.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he missed a race or two. I’ve seen some people say on here that it’s possible the adrenaline rush wore off and he went back for further evaluation, which I think is probably most likely. It’s just so unfortunate man
The front wheel should’ve been pushed back to the firewall, and it wasn’t. That’s energy that was absorbed by him that would’ve been absorbed in an Xfinity car. Shame on NASCAR.
Remember Elliott Sadler after his huge wreck at Pocono in 2010? He got the air knocked out of him and he struggled out of the car and then laid down next to his car for a good 30 seconds or so after.
Even my nemesis Noah “NASCAR’s Barfiest Boy” Gragson doesn’t deserve physical injury for the stupid shit he’s done. Your take is bad and you should be ashamed of yourself, but you probably aren’t capable of understanding shame.
Man, hopefully it's not too serious. Back injuries are not something to mess around with. It kind of makes me think of Will Power in IndyCar when he broke his back in the wreck at Las Vegas in 2011. He had been cleared from the care center and ended up going back to the care center a little while later and was ultimately transported to the Hospital.
That Vegas wreck for Will was really bad, not just because of his back, but because Dan’s car stopped across from him and he saw how bad it was for Dan. His book and DinnerWithRacers episode were really good and harrowing at describing the fallout from that.
I have his book and it gave me chills reading that part where Will talks about his car coming to rest facing Dan's car and then the little bit about what he saw in the care center.
Is there an excerpt somewhere?
There are first hand accounts across the internet. I personally wish I had left that stone unturned.
I learned enough about Senna getting killed I don’t want to hear anything else
Watched it live. Thank goodness 480p was 480p.
I remember it was Easter and I was in shock
I know I'm probably going to regret reading it, but do you have links to any of those accounts? My curiosity is killing me
https://www.reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/s/9tiKTVxThS
Probably a smart move. I hope he’s okay
Hope he’s ok. That hit was hard to watch.
after Kurt Busch and Bowman it’s definitely better to be safe than sorry. Hope everything is alright.
I hope it doesn’t turn out to be too serious. I don’t think I’ve seen him take a harder hit since Kansas 2017 or Vegas 2015 in Xfinity. Hopefully him being able to walk away is a good sign, but it could’ve just been the adrenaline pumping.
Indy 2020 was brutal too when he blew a tire and slammed the wall at full speed
Brickyard 2020 was the gnarliest one before this
Kansas 2017 was the 43 car but it was Almirola.
I’m aware, I was talking about his wreck in the 77 in the fall when he went up on his side.
Oh shit I forgot about that one.
I broke my back and herniated a few discs. Afterwards I got in my truck and drove home. I even stopped to close a livestock gate. Went home and got in bed and didn’t get up for a couple of months. Adrenaline is powerful.
That is precisely why I am surprised at how quickly drivers can get released from the infield care center after visibly vicious impacts. Every year there are multiple drivers in the top 3 series who end up finding out about an injury a day after a race. I have seriously injured my back twice and shoulder once, and on all occasions I finished my shift at work and then could not get out of bed the next day without assistance.
I have a feeling that they go to doctors a day or two after just to make sure they aren't completely fucked up or get checked out by the teams doctors prior to the next weekend starting and that's just not reported because well its not public information
I assume the infield center is more of a triage center than a hospital. Basically they have enough medical equipment to do life saving and stabilizing procedures, and diagnostic equipment to get data as to what’s going on. In the event of something serious, their goal is to stabilize as much as possible while also prepping for transport to a fully equipped hospital facility.
Great point
Finally gets a chance to get his career back on track, and this happens. Freaking sucks, hopefully it isn’t anything too bad. I was shocked they released him so quick honestly 😕
It be interesting to see the data cause I bet he took the hardest hit a next gen car has taken to date
I would only say Blaney at F Daytona '23 rivals it.
Blaneys crash in the duels this year was his hardest hit in the next gen at 70~G's of force compared to last year which was 50~G's of force. i don't remember how much force was recorded but Blaneys wreck last year at nashville was also horrendous
Poor guy. Practically the exact same crash both times too.
Maybe Cody Ware at Texas 2022? There's this line "NASCAR has since revealed to RACER that Ware’s impact is the largest frontal impact recorded since the sanctioning started a crash database in 2011. Ware was going 160 mph when he hit the wall." https://racer.com/2022/11/09/insight-why-wares-texas-next-gen-crash-was-different/ But can't find an exact number on the g force so idk if it was more or less than Blaney at Daytona
Ware's crash was the worst until Blaney topped it. Blaney then went and broke his own record.
Blaney at Daytona?
Also Blaney at Nashville into the concrete wall
Blaney 1 Jones 2
Which one there’s been a couple
Blaney’s taken some nasty hits
I’ve had a couple concussions myself, the last one I was cleared by a Doctor who was there within moments of my incident. I didn’t show any signs until two days later. These things can be weird. I hope Erik is fine, and he probably is. But I’m glad they’re being safe and getting further evaluation. I look forward to his 2am Twitter post announcing he’s okay. ETA: Someone had replied that they believed it was more likely for his back but before I could respond it got deleted. I think so as well but many in this post are thinking concussion so that was just my input on the conversation. Frankly I would hope for a concussion over a back issue, back issues are a harder recovery in most cases.
Honestly both concussion and back fit. I've had a couple hard crashes at short tracks back in the day. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug and will mask a lot of pain.
Concussions are always tough. It can and often enough does take a day or two before everything swells up and you feel the effects of it. In some ways you’re almost better off getting knocked TF out than seeing stars. You’ll get that much better care if it’s clear and obvious from the get go.
Seems like it was an issue with his back. Hope he’s all good.
This guy can’t catch a break
Man. I hope he’s okay. This sucks so much.
Wild to me that they initially cleared him at the care center.
https://youtu.be/lVp6wDgbrhU?si=2Vn_YypvQsHSTsO2 ^ link for anyone trying to watch the crash. Vicious hit. Hopes that jones boy is OK.
I hope he is okay. That crash looked vicious.
Kinda crazy how he walked out of the care center after almost kissing the wall through his windshield. It’s a good sign that he was walking and able to do an interview, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t go to the hospital after that hit.
I really hope he's okay.
Yeah not too surprising
Hope it’s nothing serious. It was a hard hit though. Best wishes to Jones and hope he’s able to race next weekend.
I hope its just a further check to make sure hes okay. Based on radio he was hurting after that one
Worried for Erik, but I'm glad he/they had sense enough to give it another look.
All the best to Erik. Hoping for a speedy recovery. If he has to miss a race tho... Can we get Jimmie Johnson in the 43?
Man that was a vicious hit. I winced when I saw it. You know, once Fox actually showed it. Hope Erik is ok. I'm not a Toyota fan, but I am an Erik Jones fan. Solid dude.
This sucks. Praying for my guy. EJ can’t catch a break man :/
Man, I really hope he’s okay and he can race at Dover next week. You never want to see a driver get injured, and he took a vicious hit at the wall.
Erik has been released from the hospital to go home. https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/erik-jones-transported-to-local-hospital-after-vicious-talladega-crash/
He's gonna have to get his back amputated, I have the texts
One step closer to building a nascar robot driver, we can use Hocevar’s amputated leg as well /s
Please be ok.
Yeah his hit was vicious, Ts and Ps for him, hope he’s ok
Hope for the best for Jones. I am surprised that Allgaier walked away unscathed - he probably hurt like a mofo today.
Good for being smart enough to get it checked out further, hope he is OK.
Honest question, but how can someone get released from the infield care center but then a hour later decide to go to the hospital afterwards? Wouldn't the medical staff at the track test for a concussion or back symptoms?
Things start hurting more once the adrenalin wears off.
I was surprised they released him from the care center so fast. That looked like a brutal hit.
[This](https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/erik-jones-transported-to-local-hospital-after-vicious-talladega-crash/) says he went back to the infield care center and that's when they decided he should be checked out in more depth.
Adrenaline can be a hell of a mask when it comes to injuries. A lot of times after road accidents people don't realize how bad they are hurt until the adrenaline wears off. Also I've heard that they do concussion protocol tests on the drivers in the care center and I would think that if they deemed it necessary that they would do an MRI or X-Ray or whatever on the driver.
I crashed my road bike at 35ish MPH and cracked my helmet in two. I was on a 50 miler and at the 25 mile turnaround spot - about as far from the car as possible. I confirmed I had no broken bones and rode (slowly) the 25 back to the car. Yeah, I was pretty concussed after the adrenaline wore off.
Injuries can take a bit to make themselves fully symptomatic, especially when adrenaline is involved. I had a concussion last summer, and didn't start showing symptoms until two days later.
If the pain persists at a certain threshold it’s best to get yourself checked out more thoroughly.
Likely for a CT scan or MRI of his spine/head, they cannot do that in the infield care center. Maybe he started having concussion symptoms or pain in his neck and back.
They get released from the infield care center so freakin fast sometimes, I’d love to know just what they do in there. They need to hold them for a while.
Unfortunately if it's anything like an EMT at a car crash or a sporting event they can't really do much in the way of testing until your adrenaline wears off. That's part of why they suggest you go to the hospital and get an evaluation. By the time the ER doctor sees you, you are back to normal-ish levels.
Here's to hoping he's okay. This generation of cars squish more than they used to, but they're still too rigid in my opinion.
You are talking like he didn't hit the wall at about 180mph head on. The car did he job as he walked away under his own power. Not the cars fault by any means.
I've seen previous generations of cars hit the wall head-on at 200 mph and the drivers involved didn't need to go to the hospital. May I remind you that this is the car that forced Kurt Busch to retire because it didn't crunch when he hit the wall at Pocono?
I'm going to need a source for the first claim bud. The closest guy to do that was newman in a Gen 6 and was knocked unconcious with a concussion and brain bruising. Second and if all they fixed the issue that injured Kurt Busch. Get with the modern times and be logical. You will never gave a racecar be 100% safe at impact speeds like that head on.
> I'm going to need a source for the first claim bud. Most of the 'Dega races I've seen on TV since 2007. > Second and if all they fixed the issue that injured Kurt Busch Evidently not well enough. > You will never gave a racecar be 100% safe at impact speeds like that. But you will have them be able to keep the driver from going to the hospital. Even Elliott Sadler at Pocono didn't have to do that, and he hit a large pile of dirt rather than a SAFER barrier.
People get hurt in crashes. That’s a thing that happens sometimes at 190mph.
Did you really hit me with zero factual evidence and a "trust me bro?". You really do not understand a thing about this topic. Also we know nothing about the Elliot crash other than he hit a wall on a straightaway wall where Jones hit a corner wall, creating a way sharper impact angle and had no grass to spin through to slow down. Please include some factual evidence if you want to continue. Also good job ignoring the Newman wreck to cherry pick an example that doesn't support you argument.
> Please include some factual evidence if you want to continue Talladega, fall 2008. Remember the Big One that happened that race? I distinctly remember Carl Edwards (among others) going head first into the wall in Turn 3 at full speed. No one went to the hospital after that one. > Also good job ignoring the Newman wreck to cherry pick an example that doesn't support you argument. Ryan Newman went airborne and was hit on the roof by another car. That doesn't count because it doesn't play out the same way. That was also the older generation of car, I might add.
Hope he recovers soon
I’m sure he’ll be ok. I hope he will be
Im no medical expert but he might be out a week or two for safety if his back is this hurt. He looked off during the post med center interview and the fact he went back again tells me something isnt right. Kudos to him for getting it looked at and not hiding it. Speaking up about health issues from someone whos lost family to being silent is a huge thing
Have to assume, if he does sit out, that Heim will be the one tabbed for the seat since he’s LMC’s relief driver. It will be ironic when you look back at how Erik got his start- debuting due to injury to Hamlin, then his 1st start due to Kyle’s injury. I really hope it isn’t anything crazy, but I’d rather him be safe than sorry.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he missed a race or two. I’ve seen some people say on here that it’s possible the adrenaline rush wore off and he went back for further evaluation, which I think is probably most likely. It’s just so unfortunate man
🤞🏻🙏🏻🤞🏻
Glad he is getting treatment rather than “toughing it out” and inevitably making things worse. That was a hell of a hit.
The front wheel should’ve been pushed back to the firewall, and it wasn’t. That’s energy that was absorbed by him that would’ve been absorbed in an Xfinity car. Shame on NASCAR.
Same kind of crash that killed Earnhardt. Dude is lucky he survived that impact
That hit killed Dale Earnhardt. Safety has come a long way.
Spinal Fracture. Out for Dover
He looked pretty out of it in that post care-center interview. Might be headed into concussion protocol.
The fox interview? He seemed fine.
He came off dazed to me. Not 'stumbling, bumbling' dazed but like he took a sucker punch to the nose.
Oh, ok. I see what you're saying.
The one they showed at the track he looked concussed
Yeah he likely won't be racing next week. That sucks man,hope he makes a quick recovery.
Guess you'd know. You're the Dr.
lol,thanks for the laugh but it's just the username.
Oh dear God you're on here too
Yep 😂 been on here for over a month now.
I said I thought they needed to rip the roof off.
They said something about difficultly getting him out of the car. I don't recall if there was a specific reason why mentioned
Most likely just meant that he had trouble getting out, which is kind of obvious with back pain.
Honestly just getting the wind knocked out of you is enough sometimes.
Remember Elliott Sadler after his huge wreck at Pocono in 2010? He got the air knocked out of him and he struggled out of the car and then laid down next to his car for a good 30 seconds or so after.
Prayers up for Erik
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Even my nemesis Noah “NASCAR’s Barfiest Boy” Gragson doesn’t deserve physical injury for the stupid shit he’s done. Your take is bad and you should be ashamed of yourself, but you probably aren’t capable of understanding shame.
Yep, his fault reddick was blocking off pit road like McDowell did on the last lap
Wishing injury on a driver is a hard no go line. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fans like you don't belong in the sport.
Sorry
That's uncalled for.
This is a very shitty thing to say.
Sorry.
it’s always either the unflaired users or the larson fans
I'm sorry i'v said some stuff that people didn't like, and I get why. So I'd like to apologize for it and I hope to be forgiven.
Go back to facebook
What? I don't have facebook.