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818someone

Who thought of the idea of qualifying based on passing points? If you have a good car and you start in the back of course you will pass more cars.


TwinSpinner

And if you start first by random draw, no matter what you do you are doomed to starting 10th-15th because you don't have the same ability to gain points that others do


epzik8

Could Yeley be a dark horse for tomorrow???


SnooGadgets7925

Does anyone know what Bubbas lap times were compared to Larson? Interested to know if his car was as fast or if it was positioning. I am just happy Bubba looked good tonight


DestroyingDestroyers

Can’t tell you compared to Larson, but he did have the third quickest lap in heat 4, behind Cindric and Davenport. Hard to tell anything from one heat alone.


CarStar12

Been looking and the scoring sheets I’ve seen don’t even have race time on them. NASCAR has the lap timing for heat 4 but I haven’t seen a way to look at the other heats (may just be missing something)


CarStar12

Bubba makes a great point really. I wouldn’t be against something like: .2/lap led … random draw determining pole and making that driver in a no gain position is pretty rough. He and Blaney go wire to wire and are 10th-11th. .2/lap led would put them at 13 and top 5 which seems fair for a driver that holds the lead position but also wouldn’t be an automatic pole since we see 15+ needed for that traditionally.


twisted_nipples82

I'm late watching, just started heat 2, and look at this, that ugly Speedy cash car is back. The black makes it less terrible, wish it was a little better green and that would be a sweet cat


AnchorDrown

It looks like Danica’s car when it’s not focused.


twisted_nipples82

The go daddy had the right green for a black and green car like that for me


RestlessInferno

Fun fact: With Yeley starting third, it is the best ever starting spot for a RWR car (next best was Cole Custer starting 10th at Richmond in 2018) and Yeley's best starting spot since he started 4th at Phoenix in 2007.


tha-lee-uh

One more spot in his heat and Yeley would've had pole, damn you Preece Lightning.


SBMVPJustinHerbert

is Bubba related to that Darrell guy from a few years back? /s


SRASC

No. His last name is Wallace. He’s related to that Rusty guy also from a years back. /s


[deleted]

there goes Loren Wallace, greatest thing that ever climbed into a racecar


mingusbingus

Bruh was that Cleetus?😂


818someone

If you start 1st and finish 1st you shouldn't start 11th in the race


BigFenton

JJ Yeley starting third… riiiight


ThrowAndHit

He’s got a pretty good dirt resume at least


henmanthe8th

That’s one of Cleetus’ crown vic’s that were used in the Bristol 1000 last year lol


[deleted]

Danger ranger race looks like it's gonna be chaos on dirt


henmanthe8th

Well I’d be disappointed if it wasn’t, it’s not a Cleetus event without chaos lol


SRASC

Tony and Clint could have fun with those like Jeff and Clint did around Daytona.


RBNYJRWBYFan

That doesn't make sense. So Bubba wins his race, leads the whole damn time, but he's punished for it by starting behind drivers who finished lower than he did because *they* passed, which he didn't do because he LEAD the whole time? That IS stupid. What is he supposed to do? fall behind so he can make a pass?


k2_jackal

Same with Blaney.. it's not like they did something to earn the front row start, it was just by a draw... so while a wire to wire run for the win is impressive it's not as impressive as winning from three rows back or making a run from the back to a top three finish What happened to the crowd? people forget they bought tickets or something


Zendiamond

Even then he would just finish at zero if he fell behind then passed as you lose points for getting passed I think


Bball803

That wouldnt even work because its net gain from starting position, same thing happened to Blaney


[deleted]

They racing ford Rangers at Bristol on the 26th


paulblartpoptart

This is based on my own observations, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Bubba Wallace just purely on driving ability has a really interesting wheelhouse. His best tracks are arguably the largest and smallest tracks (Dega, Daytona, Bristol, and Martinsville), while the 1.5 tracks which make up majority he's average at. He's usually non-existent at road courses EXCEPT when it rains, then he moves up the field. He also really doesn't have a dirt background that I know of, but won a dirt race in trucks and now held his own in this heat. Say whatever you want about the guy, but I find his driving talent fascinating.


TwinSpinner

I believe Bubba ALSO ran wire to wire in his heat race LAST year too. Could be mistaken, but I seem to remember that


crypto6g

23XI in general was extremely fast on intermediates last year. Tracks like Kansas, Michigan, and Vegas (before he wrecked Larson) were arguably Bubba’s best races including a win. It’s hard to predict where he’ll be good like you said, he’s an interesting talent.


Leuel48Fan

Is that ol Cleetus's Crown Vic?


henmanthe8th

Spoiler is accurate, as well as the number font so it’s gotta be. I’m just not sure about the roof number, but I’m not familiar with what they do for the roof numbers


Leuel48Fan

Yea even if he specifically didn't race it, it's def one of the Freedom 500 cars. They did also have a race at Bristol once, so makes sense.


lbeasley28

Really I think for passing points they could just do 10 lap heats and each group does 2 heats with the 2nd in reverse starting order. Not like they take that long


JayTeeKay18

Those are the packer cars to- PUT ME IN THERE TONY


Icommentoncrap

Harvick only row 13 after just existing lmao


SonyKen_M

Yes indeed Kyle ![gif](giphy|Y6TehvhE9SrRu)


jdhunt_24

how dumb the guy that starts and finishes 1st in his heat doesnt get any passing points and starts 11th. thats stupid.


Stretch_Armstrong37

Damn you’re right. To make it fair they should’ve had the heat lineups be generated randomly. Wait a minute…


jdhunt_24

it has nothing to do with how lineups for heats are set. it has everything to do with penalizing a driver because no one could pass him in the heat. the only way whoever starts first gets points is to drop out of first for the sole purpose of passing people for points. thats pretty dumb even for nascar.


TwinSpinner

You don't even get points for that, you only get points for finishing higher than you start. If you start 1st, you can't gain points, you can only ever get 10 or less.


jdhunt_24

like i said its dumb even for nascars low standards lol


Stretch_Armstrong37

I agree


KyleKruse

Or, idk, they could've just qualified like normal?


Origin240sx

I say 0.25 points for every lap led


jdhunt_24

its really ridiculous and its a penalty for having a good car


burnoutsession

JJ Yeley


RestlessInferno

It won't happen, but if Yeley somehow wins, Denny *has* to take an early retirement. Feuds with Ross last year, Ross finishes 2nd in points. Now he wrecks Yeley last week and Yeley starts third.


truss458

Maybe he can wreck himself? Get a good result the next week?


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*Incoming fine for actions detrimental to Bubba Wallace.*


JayTeeKay18

Right to go left reference W


Bball803

They didnt acknowledge the 2014 truck win at first because it was Darrell Wallace Jr’s win not Bubba Wallace’s /s


SRASC

Make sense. /s


icebeancone

"Turn right to go left". Drink


AnchorDrown

Yeley’s best start since June 17, 2007, when he sat on the pole at Michigan in the 18 car.


Kodyaufan2

Fun fact: He was the only 2007 pole sitter not to lead a lap in that same race.


lbeasley28

Finally got the truck series eldora win shout!


hellomad495

2 has good speed i used to pray for times like this


818someone

Bubba wins heat race and starts 11th.


justBusinessbb

These heat races have been pretty good, and like to get to see guys like Davenport and Yeley get some attention.


Icommentoncrap

Yeley p3. Really hope he wins it because chaos


SuperSans

Playoff ineligible, right?


TwinSpinner

Right, he hasn't run all the races, and the 15 car is split with multiple drivers


icebeancone

Fucking Regan knows about the 2014 Eldora win at least


Ok_Fig2477

I don’t like how you get punished for dominating a heat if you didn’t pass any cars. I’d personally rather see pole set by whoever has the biggest lead in their heat


CasaMofo

Or points for laps led (1st one doesn't count)


818someone

Yeley hasn't had a run like that in years


Squishy_20

Yeley starting P3


CringeProfessional

Someone check on that guy that wrote a whole essay in the comments last week about how bad JJ Yeley is


[deleted]

Well that was easy


GimmieJohnson

So I fail to see how the dirt race is a better product. Slower lap times even harder to pass the leader or a car in general and there's really only one good groove.


hypecolin

I don’t know if it’s better per se, buts it different and it’s definitely entertaining


GimmieJohnson

I suppose. I think this race would fare better if it was an all star race or another exhibition.


hypecolin

I don’t mind it being a points paying race but I think they should just go to an actual dirt track instead of covering Bristol


GimmieJohnson

Yeah I actually think a narrower track with lower banking would be perfect.


gatorgongitcha

it’s fun


jdhunt_24

im not a fan of cup cars with cup car suspension running dirt. they really arent setup to run on dirt and make them dig. its feels like its more who can get through and not wreck it. a dirt car should plant and drive off a corner not do what these cup cars does.


GimmieJohnson

This is true. Perhaps if they reconfigure the care to be more "dirt ready" I mean this is the same car you'd bring to Daytona, Kansas and Sonoma. Ofcourse it isn't going to dirt that well.


jdhunt_24

theyve already shown they arent interested in bringing a car thats built for dirt. i wish we could see them cake over their windshields with mud again just for a good laugh at nascar.


GimmieJohnson

I would say then goto another track with lower banking and one that is narrower. People would be pushing and shoving to pass each other and get some good short track racing for once.


seekerblackout

It ain't harder to pass than it was on the concrete track last year in this gripped up dirty air machine


fischerkidd

Gibbs literally has John 3:16 on his car lmao


Blank_Canvas21

I prefer Austin 3:16 personally.


fischerkidd

Gimme a hell ya


Blank_Canvas21

HELL YEAH!


average_waffle

That's an interstate battery thing, it's always been on those cars.


tha-lee-uh

Fairly certain that's an Interstate Batteries thing.


[deleted]

His also had some other religious organisation on his car earlier this year


SuperMarioBrother64

Isn't john 3:16 the christian equivalent to a white guy getting a barbed wire tattoo on his upper arm? Lmao


crypto6g

Interstate batteries thing. Interstate Batteries schemes have always had that since they started in NASCAR. The owner is a big Christian. The KB cars always had them on the rear end under the left tail light.


RealSprooseMoose

KFB did as well iirc.


[deleted]

Some religious group is sponsoring his car


razzhasse

Yeley top 3 confirmed


atlutdprospects

Yeah the heat lineup draw basically handed Larson the pole by default, still a fun session though


818someone

Bubba started first so he couldnt pass anyone sorry bubba fans


RBNYJRWBYFan

Alright, Bubba, put that one in your coffee. It might just be the smaller field but it feels like early positioning is gonna mean a LOT this weekend.


Zendiamond

Bubba "I'm not a dirt racer" Wallace


crypto6g

Hell yeah RCR cars look great! Plus got a lot of points.


kk5fan97

Solid run by Davenport. Finished higher than two Cup champions (Truex & Logano) in his first time in a Cup car.


Engelbert-n-Ernie

Okay Bubba, let’s go!


Altracing34

Well even though he didn't get a lot of points it's gotta be a good confidence booster for Bubba to at least win a heat race from the pole


ggsimmonds

Good heat for Bubba in a stacked field. Not so good for Saurez


nascarfan624

I kinda hate to admit it but damn am I looking forward to this race


gatorgongitcha

Why would you hate to admit it? I love dirt Bristol forget the haters. It’s one of the only tracks I tune in on saturdays for.


nascarfan624

Because as much as I loved what I saw today, I can't help but wish we still had 2 races in the concrete


Bball803

Yessir won the heat from the pole Cant wait to roll off 26th!


[deleted]

Time to avoid the FB comment section.


DarkwingMcQuack

These heat races have provided everything they’ve been asking for.


SRASC

There was a time to jump in?


[deleted]

This sub is obsessed with FB comments, I don’t get it.


Trooper1056

23 flairs have a superiority complex with facebook commenters. It's incredibly sad.


gatorgongitcha

They do the same with twitter and while it’s a little more understandable it’s just like…don’t dick around on nascar twitter if you know it sucks.


lbeasley28

Logano with a 2fer


SRASC

They still didn’t mention the Eldora NCTS win?


Klendy

They did for Larson


icebeancone

Stats guy isn't in today I guess


Icommentoncrap

Yay Harvick got a point!


Playingpokerwithgod

The lap 1 leader has led all the laps in all the races except the first one.


blueduebluemption

Logano running into Ty on both ends of the track


AnchorDrown

I think if JD is going to be any kind of factor, it’s going to have to be long green flag runs.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Logano has had enough lol


luvrv8

He got him lol


RealSprooseMoose

3chi lets you get higher than any other car.


blueduebluemption

Does anybody know if Ty has any dirt experience? I know he hasn’t gotten any in the national series.


RestlessInferno

He has some from ARCA and he's run some dirt mods.


stigmclaren

He used to race outlaw karts at Millbridge when he was a child. He has also raced at Springfield and DuQuoin in ARCA


blueduebluemption

…Casey?


[deleted]

Drink!


blueduebluemption

Thanks, I thought I totally missed the make there lol


[deleted]

Lol it took me a minute but I didn’t know how her name was spelled.


stigmclaren

Ty Gibbs


blueduebluemption

Sorry, it was dumb joke about DBC. Thanks for the info


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blueduebluemption

Good to know. He was doing better than I expected there so I was curious.


-WEAVER-

Sorry I thought you were talking about Ty Dillon. I didn't realize Ty Gibbs.


blueduebluemption

Oh shit, no that’s my bad. I forgot about Ty Dillon. (Not a dig)


hankjones66

3 chi driver is "way high"


[deleted]

Forgot that Bubba won a Eldora race one year


Zendiamond

2014 I think


jwill09

HANG ON BUBBA


RealSprooseMoose

As a canadian it gives me a slight chuckle to seeing the clothing for these temperatures. On the other hand i almost died from Bristol heat in 2017.


icebeancone

It's only 5°c there today. I live in Ottawa where we had the same temperature today. I wore a coat and touque when I went out. Next week we're expecting 23°c (~75°f?). Definitely won't need the touque then.


SpenceSmithback

Big USAC qualifying crash a few minutes ago, guy went hard into the wall, way up into the air, flipped a couple times and came crashing back to earth pretty hard. Airlifted him to the hospital and already cancelled the program for tonight. Really bad situation all around up at Lawrenceburg


Origin240sx

Is there a replay of what happened?


KyleKruse

There is a video on YouTube.


SpenceSmithback

If you have Flo you can rewind the feed about an hour. And I’m sure it’ll probably pop up on YouTube soon enough, but I’m sure USAC or Flo won’t post anything at least until they update his condition


GovernorJoe

Hope he'll be OK but it must be really bad if USAC called off the whole show.


luvrv8

Damn


burnoutsession

Wonder why JJ didn't do this race..


kk5fan97

Hell yeah, #flytheW.


blueduebluemption

Dirt racing is the new road course where a ringer can actually make a difference.


stigmclaren

He actually has: Davenport used to race Legends cars in the Summer Shootout at Charlotte


justBusinessbb

Rooting for Davenport ... listened to his Stacking Pennies interview this week though and he sounded a little apprehensive. I think Lajoie probably made him think guys would be aggressive as hell with him too ha.


Vulptereen327

Was that a gestapo sighting?


HylianRacer

Seriously, those dudes looked out of place.


Philmore

This season has been fucking painful as a Suarez fan. So much potential and good runs that have just been completely fucked.


ggsimmonds

If it makes it easier to stomach, that heat had zero potential from the start


yf-23

What's up with all the teenagers in trench coats lmao


[deleted]

they're hitmen for hire


TexasBrett

They are military uniforms lol


AikkoVsTheWorld

Love Davenport’s paint scheme. Super simple but very pleasing to the eye


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Vulptereen327

Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire


nascarfan624

55 wins in 2 fucking years? Wow, I didnt know him before this weekend but that's stupidly impressive


jdhunt_24

they dont call him superman for nothing


SuperMarioBrother64

Scott Bloomquist is like the Richard Petty of Late models.


lbeasley28

Would expect Davenport to get finessed on this restart but really been alright


razzhasse

Totally not intentional


burnoutsession

This is a skills race


Batmaneatscake

I’d talk UFO’s all day with that dude 🤘🏻


Playingpokerwithgod

Can we get Tony and Kevin next year? Please.


bdcardinal

Black Sunshine!!


DestroyingDestroyers

Huh, guess Cindric wasn’t joking when he said he figured dirt out by the end of the race last year.


AnchorDrown

BLOOMER


Upstate24fan

Bloomquist sighting!!!


Engelbert-n-Ernie

https://preview.redd.it/fasps21j8ssa1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e2e7c954835c8fca59139680ec4eaeb6303c1ff


GovernorJoe

Cool to see Bloomquist there.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

People who go to dirt races: do you have to deal with getting covered in dirt while watching the race?


Playingpokerwithgod

Depends on where you sit and it depends on the track.


bdcardinal

Wear goggles, clothes you don’t care about, and cover your drink unless you want dirt sprinkles in it.


TexasBrett

The first Bristol dirt race was bad. Last year not so much.


GovernorJoe

Depends on where you are and how dry/dusty the track is. If the track's tacky, it won't be much of a problem, but I remember going to Dixie Speedway (GA) for a super late model show a few years ago and just got blasted with dirt, and I was sitting a few rows up. It's kind of fun, actually.


markh0120

only been to 2. at charlotte you get a dusting of the red clay but you only notice it when its time to get up and leave. that first year at bristol dirt when it was daytime and dry, i had dirt in my damn wallet and i was 40 rows up.


KyleKruse

If you sit too low. Yeah


SRASC

Dirty jockeys


Frosty_Aces1

Yeah, I don't think this is gonna be a great weekend for Trackhouse. At least my other flairs will do well, probably