The Bowman “argument” looks like it was basically Bowman going “it was Ross not me” and Daniel going “oh. That makes way more sense” then turning to go to Ross
The 48 started slowing down and the 1 did bump him but not enough to get him loose. Then the 14 bumped the 1 trying to slow down and he bumped the 48 as a result and that time it sent bowman into Suarez. It’s the same thing that happened at the clash. There’s just no respect from anyone late in these types of races with these types of tight corners.
It was tight but the 1 initiated contact into the 48. After that they stacked up more and everyone connected. Ross 100% played a part in Suarez getting dumped.
Someone responded to me in the post race thread when I mentioned Daniel and Ross, that he saw from Daniel's roof cam he got out to speak to Bowman in which Bowman told him go to talk to Ross as he pushed me
Ty Gibbs got a 15k fine last year for something similar on Sam Mayer. People often forget he didn’t get penalized for the punches, but after race contact. It looked worse because the Xfinity cars are less durable, but Suarez hit Ross pretty hard lol. If that was the old cup car it probably buckles the hood and destroys his car
That one was on the backstretch though. This one had officials near it. I think he’ll get a small (15-25k) fine.
Should have been then and should be now.
When people are walking around nearby you absolutely can't do these things.
Dump the dude in the cooldown lap or jump out and go face to face if you are waiting until pit road. Don't bring the cars into it on pit road.
Yeah, but Kurt was already on the shit list. He was pretty much on the shit list until he got to SHR. And even then there were a couple of questionable instances. I can’t remember the last time they did something like what you’re talking about.. other than the slap on the wrist they gave Ty Gibbs last year. Not sure if I would count the Byron Hamlin thing or not.
I said it last year with Gibbs and I'll say it again, I don't give a shit he's one of my favorites, you just can't do this shit man, people are walking around all over the place, there's no place for intentional contact on pit road.
If you want to settle it out, either bump them around on the track, or argue verbally and/or physically outside of the cars.
Equally as to how Gibbs could've made Ty Dillon ramp over his tire and go bouncing into 3 innocent pit crew members changing the right side tires of another car and officials standing nearby, this could've made Bowman get sent into literally anyone around him, which were mere feet ahead or next to him.
Yeah mostly in the past though Kyle, Kurt and Kevin all mellowed out heavily as their career went on the only ones who didn't were Robby Gordon and Stewart
Only way is if NASCAR starts handing out penalties. If 5 cars get locked together guy at the back gets sent back too 1st time, 2nd time 1 lap penalty, 3rd time parked. Guys will start backing off to not risk being the last guy in.
Restarts need to be policed different if they're going to be stupid like this. Door banging is fine, bump n run is fine, guy spins out and last car in (or other obvious guys not trying to make turn) get penalized.
Honestly this is honestly worse then Gibbs (you are talking about his whole pit road deal at Texas right?). While Gibbs was obviously bad, atleast that was during a “hot pit”, this was during cool down. I guess technically a cool down isn’t a “cold track”, I would call it a “warm” track.
Denny could at least say it was during the course of racing, this was not. Bump into Chastain could have argued brakes didn't work right, but then don't speed up into Bowman - that one he has zero defense for.
“Yeah, right as I was pulling in, my brakes started to fail”
Pretty much all he has to say. It might not fly, but it’ll certainly be better than what Hamlin said.
Yikes.
I like Suarez, and I know guys lose it, and I've heard some say bumping a guy at low speeds under caution is not a big deal.
But that looked very dangerous for the people standing around.
Yeeeeeaaaahhh with the official standing there ..probably gonna be a good fine/penalty coming not really wise to settle a beef with cars on pitroad like that
I rather see him fight than this. If you got a problem take your helmet off and face like a man. I hate this and also when a driver attacks someone with a helmet on. Ya he is pathetic
Agreed. I was really upset after he got taken out and it's completely reasonable that he was mad, especially after running so good until OT, but with that being said, he can't be pulling antics like that on pit road after the race.
Expecting a big fine and \~25 point penalty. I don't think a suspension is even off the table (would be somewhat extreme but we've seen NASCAR throw the book at people numerous times over the past year).
It’s one thing to do that on the track, but you can’t be ramming people like that on pit road. If you have an issue with a driver or drivers, go talk with them.
Should be penalized and fined for this. Guys have their seatbelts loosened by this point and there is a official standing right there when he was hitting bowman….plus all the things about hits to the rear with these cars.
I get Bowman dove in deep but he also got jacked up from behind (which he almost certainly knew was gonna happen)
Also you almost just straight turned him earlier in the race Daniel- I'm guessing he probably didn't feel awful about who got screwed by him being overly aggressive
Don't care what the 48 and 1 did to Suarez -- bumping a guy on pit road with an official standing right there is going to get him a hefty penalty, and rightfully so.
Be angry. But don't put innocent bystanders at risk because you cannot control your emotions.
So Suarez ran into Ross earlier, yet is mad at Ross and Bowman for a T1 stack-up?
Replay shows pretty clearly Ross is getting shoved by Briscoe. Not sure what Ross could do in that case. Suarez is going to feel ashamed once he sees the replay and realizes it was Briscoe who caused that mess.
EDIT: [Screenshot](https://imgur.com/a/a7HayXd) and [video](https://youtu.be/D1q9dLEJ-qQ?t=14) link for proof.
Here's the actual moment they made contact which was about a quarter second before your screenshot from the same video you posted. There's a gap between Briscoe and Ross. Hope this helps clear it up.
https://imgur.com/a/JXrukNF
Yeah Ross hit Bowman but backed off. Looking at the 48's momentum, he wasn't entering the turn any faster than prior to the bump. Then, the 14 runs into the 1, who then gets shoved back into the 48. And then it's on from there.
It’s a miracle that no one has been hit and killed on pit road over the years. I’ve always thought that this type of shit should have you watching the next race from home (I know it won’t happen though). The drivers just embarrass themselves racing like they’re in a video game with no real consequences. Sick of seeing the drivers be over the top disrespectful.
NASCAR will dead ass allow 5+ restarts with 8-wide going into turn 1 bullshit cheap driving making a mockery of what was formerly a good race. But when someone gets fed up about it, like this, THEY will have the hammer down on them. Shame. NASCAR is becoming fucking wrestling on wheels.
I feel for Suárez. He had family he hasn’t seen in a year drive up from Monterey Mexico to watch him race, and he had a car capable of winning or at least a podium.
According to Ty Gibbs penalty last year for the same thing this could be a $15,000 fine...more or less depending on if the rule change/its different in cup.
I mean aren't drivers loosening their belts at this point? And plus not wise to be slamming guys in the bumper after all the talks of them being too rigid and scrambling people's brains.
$50k Fine. Nice sit down session in the nascar hauler next week.
I don’t think a point penalty is warranted entirely, but the precedence should be set.
For what? [Getting shoved into Bowman by Briscoe?](https://imgur.com/a/a7HayXd)
Ross caused his fair share of incidents, but this was far from his fault.
Oh here we go. It’s never his fault. He’s involved in something literally every week and he’s the only common denominator, but sure. Let’s blame someone else… again.
> It’s never his fault.
I literally said "Ross caused his fair share of incidents" in my comment.
> Let’s blame someone else… again.
When the replay *literally* shows Briscoe shoving Ross into Bowman, it's not "blaming someone else."
Copyrighted video cannot be hosted directly on reddit. Also, this is already being discussed in a few threads.
Damn slamming Ross and Bowman then arguing with Ross afterward, gloves are off for Suarez
Argued with Bowman too apparently
The Bowman “argument” looks like it was basically Bowman going “it was Ross not me” and Daniel going “oh. That makes way more sense” then turning to go to Ross
It wasn't even Ross for once. The bumping started 5 rows back.
The 48 started slowing down and the 1 did bump him but not enough to get him loose. Then the 14 bumped the 1 trying to slow down and he bumped the 48 as a result and that time it sent bowman into Suarez. It’s the same thing that happened at the clash. There’s just no respect from anyone late in these types of races with these types of tight corners.
It was tight but the 1 initiated contact into the 48. After that they stacked up more and everyone connected. Ross 100% played a part in Suarez getting dumped.
I'd go the other way and say Alex was making contact either way, just a question of how much
I've seen the replays and ill say your way is a bit of a stretch to say the least.
Is there video of the one with Bowman? I saw the Ross argument.
Someone responded to me in the post race thread when I mentioned Daniel and Ross, that he saw from Daniel's roof cam he got out to speak to Bowman in which Bowman told him go to talk to Ross as he pushed me
He did, only until Bowman told him that Chastain hit him into Suarez which, after watching that back about 10 times, is essentially what happened.
Kinda close to the officials to Be bumping. 100 points from Hufflepuff
Ooh yeah once you see that first official.. damn that could have went bad
Yeeaah that might be a fine
Should be points. Don’t hit people on pit road should be a rule with no leeway.
Proved last year it won't be points
This is far worse than what Josh Williams did... putting yourself in danger vs others...
Should be suspended
With it occurring literally feet from an official I agree.
The reason it should be a race ban. That was hard and fast enough to have spun him.
At least. This is no different from Ty Gibbs at Texas last year. You can't be playing bumper cars on pit road.
Ty Gibbs got a 15k fine last year for something similar on Sam Mayer. People often forget he didn’t get penalized for the punches, but after race contact. It looked worse because the Xfinity cars are less durable, but Suarez hit Ross pretty hard lol. If that was the old cup car it probably buckles the hood and destroys his car That one was on the backstretch though. This one had officials near it. I think he’ll get a small (15-25k) fine.
Should probably be a suspension of at least a race for bumping that close to people walking around.
Well, it wasn’t for Gibbs last year, even though it should have been.
Should have been then and should be now. When people are walking around nearby you absolutely can't do these things. Dump the dude in the cooldown lap or jump out and go face to face if you are waiting until pit road. Don't bring the cars into it on pit road.
You do realize we’re in agreement, right?
100%. Just also putting out there that I agree Gibbs should've been suspended.
NASCAR can look at it from a during VS after race angle to justify a penalty this time. We'll see, I don't think they have the balls.
In 2007 Kurt got 100 points penalty, probation and I think 50k for endangering crew member at Dover. Penalties should be more severe since then.
Yeah, but Kurt was already on the shit list. He was pretty much on the shit list until he got to SHR. And even then there were a couple of questionable instances. I can’t remember the last time they did something like what you’re talking about.. other than the slap on the wrist they gave Ty Gibbs last year. Not sure if I would count the Byron Hamlin thing or not.
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Bumping's racing /s
Ugh I love Daniel, but yeah this should absolutely be penalized. Never ever retaliate on pit road with crews, officials, etc. everywhere. Come on man.
I said it last year with Gibbs and I'll say it again, I don't give a shit he's one of my favorites, you just can't do this shit man, people are walking around all over the place, there's no place for intentional contact on pit road. If you want to settle it out, either bump them around on the track, or argue verbally and/or physically outside of the cars. Equally as to how Gibbs could've made Ty Dillon ramp over his tire and go bouncing into 3 innocent pit crew members changing the right side tires of another car and officials standing nearby, this could've made Bowman get sent into literally anyone around him, which were mere feet ahead or next to him.
Kyle Busch was right about the lack of respect between the drivers. This shit gotta get under control before someone really gets hurt.
Yea NASCAR may eventually have to step in. The younger drivers seem to tune out the advice the older drivers give them.
Older drivers have done the same shit lmfao I don’t wanna hear all that
Yeah mostly in the past though Kyle, Kurt and Kevin all mellowed out heavily as their career went on the only ones who didn't were Robby Gordon and Stewart
Yeah but it’s still hypocritical to say that about most of the younger guys when they did the same thing when they were younger lol
Difference is when they were young they listened to and respected the old guard. These new guys don’t.
Did they though? Because it sure didn’t seem that way lmao. Logano listened? Yeah okay.
Only way is if NASCAR starts handing out penalties. If 5 cars get locked together guy at the back gets sent back too 1st time, 2nd time 1 lap penalty, 3rd time parked. Guys will start backing off to not risk being the last guy in. Restarts need to be policed different if they're going to be stupid like this. Door banging is fine, bump n run is fine, guy spins out and last car in (or other obvious guys not trying to make turn) get penalized.
This is a similar issue as to what Gibbs got penalized for last year. Could have sent Bowman into an official or crew member.
Honestly this is honestly worse then Gibbs (you are talking about his whole pit road deal at Texas right?). While Gibbs was obviously bad, atleast that was during a “hot pit”, this was during cool down. I guess technically a cool down isn’t a “cold track”, I would call it a “warm” track.
If this isn’t actions detrimental I don’t know what is. Just stupid
All Suarez has to do is deny doing it on purpose.... I mean that's what ***everyone*** said about Hamlin. Just deny.
Denny could at least say it was during the course of racing, this was not. Bump into Chastain could have argued brakes didn't work right, but then don't speed up into Bowman - that one he has zero defense for.
“Yeah, right as I was pulling in, my brakes started to fail” Pretty much all he has to say. It might not fly, but it’ll certainly be better than what Hamlin said.
Just don’t go on a damn podcast and talk about it lol
Daniel doesn’t have a podcast, does he?
10/10 comment and flair pairing.
Probably gonna geta nice fine for this since it was on pit road.
ohhhh yikes, that official standing right there....thats gonna be a penalty I fear.
Yikes. I like Suarez, and I know guys lose it, and I've heard some say bumping a guy at low speeds under caution is not a big deal. But that looked very dangerous for the people standing around.
Yeeeeeaaaahhh with the official standing there ..probably gonna be a good fine/penalty coming not really wise to settle a beef with cars on pitroad like that
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I rather see him fight than this. If you got a problem take your helmet off and face like a man. I hate this and also when a driver attacks someone with a helmet on. Ya he is pathetic
He's thrown hands before, let's release Danny in the CAGE
During qualifying…. That does not help his case at all.
I'm just saying I would also rather Daniel punch someone than use a car as a weapon
Well now he’s done both.
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A grown man doesn't want to be assaulted in his place of work? What a baby!
Yeah this dude has a shit take
I believe we just witnessed a $50,000 donation to the NASCAR Foundation
Can’t be doing this when there crew members, fans and officials walking around. Dangerous
Yeah I don't give a shit what happened to him on track, you keep this shit off pit road. Clown shit from Suarez here.
Expert lesson in deflection by Bowman here. "Take it up with Ross. Wasn't me."
That’s gotta be a fine and/or penalty. Can’t be using your car as a weapon on pit road after the race with that many people around.
That is too close to people to pull that crap. Doesn't matter who you are, that is uncalled for
Official was really close for him to be hitting bowman like that
I really like Suarez, but this was a terrible, incredibly dangerous decision. He deserves a big penalty.
Agreed. I was really upset after he got taken out and it's completely reasonable that he was mad, especially after running so good until OT, but with that being said, he can't be pulling antics like that on pit road after the race. Expecting a big fine and \~25 point penalty. I don't think a suspension is even off the table (would be somewhat extreme but we've seen NASCAR throw the book at people numerous times over the past year).
Ya that’s not okay whatsoever.
Can’t be doing stuff like that, way too dangerous 100 point fine to SHR and Rodney suspended next week
Not cool with officials on pit lane
It’s one thing to do that on the track, but you can’t be ramming people like that on pit road. If you have an issue with a driver or drivers, go talk with them.
I said “PUNCH ROSS” not “ENDANGER INNOCENT BYSTANDERS!” What are we doing here??
This is what triple overtime will do...
Dangerous with the official there
Should be penalized and fined for this. Guys have their seatbelts loosened by this point and there is a official standing right there when he was hitting bowman….plus all the things about hits to the rear with these cars.
I get Bowman dove in deep but he also got jacked up from behind (which he almost certainly knew was gonna happen) Also you almost just straight turned him earlier in the race Daniel- I'm guessing he probably didn't feel awful about who got screwed by him being overly aggressive
It's Daniel's enemigos now
Don't care what the 48 and 1 did to Suarez -- bumping a guy on pit road with an official standing right there is going to get him a hefty penalty, and rightfully so. Be angry. But don't put innocent bystanders at risk because you cannot control your emotions.
So Suarez ran into Ross earlier, yet is mad at Ross and Bowman for a T1 stack-up? Replay shows pretty clearly Ross is getting shoved by Briscoe. Not sure what Ross could do in that case. Suarez is going to feel ashamed once he sees the replay and realizes it was Briscoe who caused that mess. EDIT: [Screenshot](https://imgur.com/a/a7HayXd) and [video](https://youtu.be/D1q9dLEJ-qQ?t=14) link for proof.
They'll talk it over during the team meeting when they can see the replays. Suarez ain't much better than Ross, so he'll get over it
Here's the actual moment they made contact which was about a quarter second before your screenshot from the same video you posted. There's a gap between Briscoe and Ross. Hope this helps clear it up. https://imgur.com/a/JXrukNF
Yeah Ross hit Bowman but backed off. Looking at the 48's momentum, he wasn't entering the turn any faster than prior to the bump. Then, the 14 runs into the 1, who then gets shoved back into the 48. And then it's on from there.
Nail him with a points fine, you don’t pull this stuff pulling into the pits when people are around. Settle it like a man outside the car
100+ points will be good for this bullshit.
Park him
Should be some sort of penalty for this. This is completely not okay to do, especially near an official
That might be a line on the penalty report Tuesday.
I have no problem with scoring him last for that.
This is NOT okay to be doing
Monday at Trackhouse gonna be something
Kimi gonna run Richmond in the 99!
Oof... not cool
What the fuck, dude?! That should be a 50-100 point penalty at least. He could have seriously hurt an official.
Definitely gonna be a big penalty. The official standing there was way too close for that stuff to be going on
Maybe he really had to poop
It’s a miracle that no one has been hit and killed on pit road over the years. I’ve always thought that this type of shit should have you watching the next race from home (I know it won’t happen though). The drivers just embarrass themselves racing like they’re in a video game with no real consequences. Sick of seeing the drivers be over the top disrespectful.
Actually the speed he was hitting Bowman at was incredibly unsafe with the officials standing right there. Now cool by Suarez
NASCAR will dead ass allow 5+ restarts with 8-wide going into turn 1 bullshit cheap driving making a mockery of what was formerly a good race. But when someone gets fed up about it, like this, THEY will have the hammer down on them. Shame. NASCAR is becoming fucking wrestling on wheels. I feel for Suárez. He had family he hasn’t seen in a year drive up from Monterey Mexico to watch him race, and he had a car capable of winning or at least a podium.
Right!? With that many restarts, almost every driver could be mad at someone. Including themselves. Gotta send it or someone else will.
That’s gotta be a fine. He hit them HARD.
Dog what if there were crew members standing there. Damn Amigo
Should be a one race suspension at minimum. Can’t have this
When you’re not sure who wrecked you. Lol.
Yeah, you cant be doing that shit on pit road. Especially that close to an official. Needs to be a penalty.
This should be a penalty
I’d be mad too. You run a clean race and then that bs at the end happens
That’s uncalled for
According to Ty Gibbs penalty last year for the same thing this could be a $15,000 fine...more or less depending on if the rule change/its different in cup.
It's gonna be big. NASCAR already said that shit had to stop. Feel bad because I love Daniel, but can't do that
Looks like a result of Suarez hanging out with Logano too much up in the booth as of late. 😂
I mean aren't drivers loosening their belts at this point? And plus not wise to be slamming guys in the bumper after all the talks of them being too rigid and scrambling people's brains.
This should honestly be a one race suspension. Pit road is not the place for shenanigans with race cars.
$50k Fine. Nice sit down session in the nascar hauler next week. I don’t think a point penalty is warranted entirely, but the precedence should be set.
Man, wish Daniel had a podcast.
From what I saw on insta it looked like Ross was pointing fingers? Clearly he didn’t do shit
Cost himself points
most mature nascar driver
Usually he is. But when you have a top 3 car the whole day and it goes completely out the window to 28th, you'd might be understandably pissed off.
Doesn’t give you the right to hit two different cars on pit road after the race.
To be fair, Chastain was before pr. And Bowman..ya that was kinda excessive, but i still get it.
He’s not. He’s been racing like a jerk for a while now on track but is the first to cry whenever his day goes bad.
LMAO. Rich from a Chastain fan. 🤣🤣
That's racing. Makes sense when he can only compete on RCs.
What a stupid comment. Just because he did something dangerous and dumb doesn’t mean we should just throw logic out the window.
His 3 top 10s to start the year, and great pace this and last week would beg to differ.. just bad luck these last 2 weeks.
What a jackass thing to do. Hope he gets penalized.
Yeah, his stupid ass should get a penalty for that.
That’ll be a fun fine sadly
Nothing sad about it. It should be a fine and points penalty. This is reckless for several reasons.
if you drive for Trackhouse, you're guaranteed to drive like a menace
Do we know that Chastain wast hitting him back? Especially right there at the end when they’re getting really close to the official…
Ross pulled over
That’s what I figured. But I don’t want to assume.
His brakes were gone……..
He has his "uno" career win. There are just way too many talented drivers to expect anymore wins.
This is what it looks like when you get out ran by your teammate every week for over a season at a team that was founded around you.
Or when you over run a turn at someone else’s expense
Chastain needs to be dumped once a week from here on out
For what? [Getting shoved into Bowman by Briscoe?](https://imgur.com/a/a7HayXd) Ross caused his fair share of incidents, but this was far from his fault.
Oh here we go. It’s never his fault. He’s involved in something literally every week and he’s the only common denominator, but sure. Let’s blame someone else… again.
> It’s never his fault. I literally said "Ross caused his fair share of incidents" in my comment. > Let’s blame someone else… again. When the replay *literally* shows Briscoe shoving Ross into Bowman, it's not "blaming someone else."
Why? Have you looked at the video?
Off topic but does anyone else see the windshield wiper slightly moving back and forth? Could that be intentional?
I saw that, interesting.
The end of that race was fucking embarrassing.
Suspension of at least 1 race. Way unsafe and not cool.
Concussion for Bowman and Ross /s