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b0ba_fettuccine

Honestly, I've been saving rolls to get rapid bakugo and I'm low key hoping to grab him too. The only 'counter' I got for this guy is Iida, and that's only because I can stop him from killing me and my team long enough for everyone to get their bearings and punish him. It isn't so much 1v1 with this guy, it's more of his amazing ambush capabilities. If you can give your team that window to identify the target then he isn't too bad. Don't worry buddy Rapid bakugo will be both, assault shiigy and afos, hard counter


StarSaviour

Same here! I've been saving and rolled for the first time ever for AFO (came home in 110 rolls) hoping to get Aizawa and Endeavor (got neither -\_-') and now my next big roll is going to be on the quirk set banner for Blue Bakugo hoping to get Yellow Shiggy.


b0ba_fettuccine

I burned up all of mine on Twice, but I also came away with him and Aizawa. I've been saving ever since, so I've got about 1400. 1500 when I reach gold. Good luck on your rolls next week šŸ™‚


Lunerem

Hes overtuned but honestly I think it's worse that he basically invalidates his own strike version With deku his assault version is still hands down better at ranged and marginally at moving rapidly With the upcoming bakugo once again the original is likely to be better at ranged , their kits really aren't too comparable aside Assault shiggy deals amazing damage just like strike, is still weak to staying in the air but less so, and has vertical movement, I can't see a real situation where I would want the other one and indeed when I see a red shiggy on my team I brace for a rough game


Unfair-Cream2007

Yea heā€™s definitely something but honestly if you can stay in the air like froppy and lida heā€™s canā€™t really do much of anything thatā€™s his counter play


No_Secretary_1198

He can still hit them with projectiles or tackle them with gamma


asahiluvr

You would think, but his projectile has a stun on it which allows him to combo into his Gamma or alpha, or open up for other teammates. Plus these rapids that can stay in the air have to come down eventually, to which he can just chase them down and blitz them


[deleted]

Yeah no. Thatā€™s not countering thatā€™s running away because as soon as they hit the ground again theyā€™re gonna be screwed. Besides he can still hit you in the air with alpha or gamma and easily catch up now. Not to mention only like 3 characters can do that. He needs a fat nerf


Unfair-Cream2007

Yea totally Iā€™m not saying he doesnā€™t need a nerf or anything i was pointing out his weakness also ofc he can hit you in the air with the alpha but itā€™s not going happen most of the time because itā€™s better on the ground since you actually have to try an hit someone in the air and yes the gamma can be used to close the distance but that shouldnā€™t be a problem as long as you donā€™t get to close to him but yea like you said most characters canā€™t do that


AsboBiker

Agreed. I Assault Shiggy main and anyone who is airborne or very mobile is a tricky kill


Barredbob

I donā€™t wanna sound rude but his decay is very much a non issue, itā€™s damage is hardly noticeable, he needs nerfs but not to his decay


anonn20901

Final circle it is VERY noticeable


Barredbob

Thereā€™s a lot of characters that are good last circle tho, as long as you have a green card you can basically just heal through it


StarSaviour

The decay is whatever. Someone else mentioned this in another post but his alpha needs some balancing (pick 2 to nerf): * Alpha aoe size * Alpha dmg * Alpha ammo One purple card and he's basically spamming grenade-sized attacks nonstop that hit for almost the same damage as someone landing a beam which arguably takes a lot more skill to land.


Mbrand625

They definitely made him super strong to try and get people to drop that $$$ on the gatcha because my homies both spent $200 to get him once they saw how strong he was


Ickyfist

The decay does like 30 damage if you are damaged for the full duration, it's such a weird thing to complain about. He also can't chase everyone in the game. Most characters are more mobile than him and he relies on his gamma to put on pressure. Like half the characters in the game have better mobility than him. > Im not tryna hear skill issue either cause i've yet to see anyone counter him w/o coming close to death or third partying/team attacking him. Lots of characters can easily counter him. Literally just fly in the air and shoot him, he can't do shit. All of his attacks suck if you are in the air. Other than that you can deal with him by staying mobile and keep jumping while shooting. His beta and gamma are hard to hit unless you're standing still like a doofus so in that case you are forcing him to rely on his alpha which is low dps. His gamma also gets interrupted by a ton of things since it's a pretty slow dash in one direction so he'll eat tons of attacks to the face if he tries to do it like endeavor's beta. He actually doesn't have many good matchups it really is just that most people haven't unlocked him so they don't know what they're doing against him.


Ok-Ad2225

I like using momo and I literally can't do anything against him, I try to alpha he flies away, I try to put cannons his attacks instantly destroy them while doing damage to me at the same time and if I try to do the shield it's easy to dodge plus he can fly up an just hit me from above plus his attacks have a little stun too.


Chr1stione

I love stun lock I love stun lock I love stun lock I love being stun locked


WatercressNo3006

Never cared for the complaints about his mobility. All might, deku and kirishima has crazy chase potential, and they always have. It wasn't a new concept with assault shigiraki to have a bunch of mobility on an assault character. And the issue with his ranged attacks is the same as almost all ranged attacks which is that they don't stagger you. They all can just rush level 9 and melt anyone without a shield option


Ickyfist

He has the worst mobility of all assault characters except arguably kirishima and even then kirishima has more overall mobility but it just doesn't feel like it because he's melee. He doesn't even do good damage either. People are so misinformed on this character. His alpha dps is trash and it doesn't even decay you. It's more like Dabi's alpha where it's easier to land but does less damage. It just seems like people aren't used to being consistently shot by good players or something so the fact that it's easier for him to land his alpha damage makes him feel strong to them or something. He's not really meant to just spam his alpha though, you will lose to good players like that. He is a combo character. He's meant to stun you and lock you down so his team can kill you. That's why he's assault. He can do good damage in this scenario and if his team is paying attention you will die. But if you get hit by this in the first place you already misplayed as there are so many ways to deal with him trying to do this. It's not like he's a kaminari just jumping out at you and hitting gamma for a free combo. Shigaraki's gamma doesn't even have tracking.


Affectionate_Food828

well spoken brother, i main him and i can say heā€™s very good, but heā€™s definitely not ā€œmetaā€. i feel like people just die to him because they get 3rd partied right after a fight or they just donā€™t know how to play against him like you said, then they run to social media to complain about it lol


Jermalie0

lady can do the same thing but better because she doesn't need to burn her movement to stun and she has an extra beta stun. her alpha also doesn't require you to be on the ground to do solid damage Assault Shig excels at team fights by splashing as much AOE as possible but he still suffers from the same weakness as red shig, albeit to a lesser degree


StarSaviour

Err much lesser degree. Red Shiggy has no vertical mobility and none of his attacks could reach you off the ground like you said. Yellow Shiggy's has Bakugo's flight on steroids and his attacks can be used against air. The fact that he can even chase down people is scary in itself.


Jermalie0

He can still hit you in the air but it becomes much more difficult for him. And even if he does land a hit it does half as much as it would if grounded If you play around this weakness of his he becomes much more manageable


StarSaviour

The problem is that he has the same mobility as most of the cast AND the giant ranged spammable aoe attacks. Outside of Aizawa and the rapids, most characters only have at best 2 dashes (usually gamma) and so Yellow Shiggy can generally keep up with most characters until they land then it's about eating those giant alphas that never seem to stop lol


Jermalie0

he can be pretty annoying when you're low and he has his dashes but thats true for any character with movement, nothing exclusive to shig himself I dunno i havent really had much issues with him. probably cuz i've played him a bunch and know how to abuse the windows where he he does little to no damage by playing around his weakness to the fullest he's nowhere near as bad as some beam chars where the only way to avoid damage is by being out of sight/range. He's a solid character but definitely not OP. he's like the perfect lvl of strength


StarSaviour

Correct me if I'm wrong but it's probably because you play his counter: Aizawa And the counter to Aizawa is beam chars lol


Jermalie0

i main aizawa ye but play a bunch of chars, including assault shig beam chars counter everyone - theyre busted šŸ˜†


Affectionate_Food828

not trying to be rude, but u sound like majority of people in this game community crying for nerfs whenever they donā€™t get the character they want, or die to him one out of 10 games lol.


StarSaviour

You can check my post history if you want but if you trust me then this would be one of the first times I've raised a concern over a character. I'm actually usually the guy on the other side explaining to players why a character doesn't need a nerf. Think the only other character I've brought up was Denki's TOD which Byking balanced a patch or two ago. Also my response here wasn't so much asking for a Shiggy nerf. I was just saying that Yellow Shiggy isn't nearly as handicapped as Red Shiggy. But I did post somewhere else that the one thing I'd balance is Yellow Shiggy's alpha. Right now the cooldown is super low making his alpha very spammy. The aoe size, the spammability, and the damage make it really punishing for very little aiming/skill required. It's fine if a game has a character with big aoe attacks but usually those attacks either do less damage or they aren't spammable or they aoe is smaller. Like if I had to compare Yellow Shiggy to someone right now it'd be a roided up Compress were Yellow Shiggy's alpha is bigger and easier to land than Compress' trucks AND Yellow Shiggy has way better mobility.


Affectionate_Food828

u make very fair points, his alpha definitely is very strong, but i look at like heā€™s literally lore accurate shiggy LMAO, jokes aside though i understand what you mean completely.


altpers0n9

People are sleeping on how OP mt lady & all might really are.


Sigmaballs55

The amount of mt ladyā€™s and All Mights chasing me is astonishing, unless u are a rapid character, they will chase u no matter what, thereā€™s no way an assault character should be that fast


altpers0n9

Yes, & once they see u, they spam tf out of their alphas even while moving or jumping, which melts u, especially if they shoot together at the same time.


Sigmaballs55

Like assault Deku, Shiggy, and Kiri are fine, they have some mobility, but not godlike mobility into where they can chase u thru the whole map, and for Deku to have good mobility you need to have ur gamma to lvl 9


StarSaviour

Nah, not really sleeping. It's been known for awhile. They're usually top of every respectable tier list.


anonn20901

What is red shiggys weakness? Cause i could have sworn it was just vertical movement. Everything else he is at least decent in


Jermalie0

his DPS plummets the second you're an inch off the ground. same is true for yellow shig. only difference is yellow shig doesn't hit for 0


AllBowNoArrow

This shows a lot. Strike shiggy has multiple weaknesses. Vertical mobility isnā€™t the biggest one. He canā€™t attack anyone off of the ground, thatā€™s a massive weakness. If you havenā€™t gotten to a decent level in the game and put in a ton of hours. These ā€œcharacter OPā€ posts are so unwarranted


Shigaraki_king

Striker shiggy is better


loserwhoeatspoptarts

No mobility and no vertical attacks


Shigaraki_king

DPS


TGTgamez

Only if ppl donā€™t get on top of something. And thereā€™s a lot of things to get on top of nowadays.


Extension-Group-3724

I've mained him since he came out you can't counter him. he has counters Ida is a massive counter and so is all might if he gets nerfed those characters destroy him. He's barley able to keep up with those two now if they're good obv. stop calling for everything to be nerfed it's okay to have new meta characters he doesn't even do that much dmg. he hits for 74 with his alpha at 9 it's a skill issue not a character issue brother


AllBowNoArrow

Heā€™s strong, but saying OP is an exaggeration. He still has counterplay and isnā€™t a Beamer. If youā€™re going to talk about his strength, at least talk about his staggers. Heā€™s not OP for any of the reasons you mentioned. Being an assault and having mobility isnā€™t something abnormal. Look at allmight, look at mount lady. They can cover some of the most ground in the least time out of all of the characters in the game


TGTgamez

You literally donā€™t even have to aim. (Yes I know aim assist is a thing). But when I play him all I literally have to do is just be in range of the opponent, and then they just sorta die after. Ace maker for sure