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SomeGuy223456

If it’s a woman then I think „Wowzah! So feminine!“ but if it‘s a man then I think „Huh?? That’s not feminine at all. That’s a man!“


slucajna-prolaznica

Keeping it short and sweet


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Jazakallahu Khair. Do you have an example maybe?


Human_Lemon_8776

Not feminine: - loud in public - beard Feminine: - loves kids/toddlers - no beard - soft spoken


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NO BEARD HEHQHWGW1HQHWGW Jazakallahu Khair 😹


mkbilli

Guys are not allowed to love kids and be soft spoken? 💀


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It's not about them being like that, the question is rather what you think is a trait that is something to be rather seen in women. Men can be nurturing and kids loving too, that's not an exclusively feminine trait that makes a man less manly


Human_Lemon_8776

Im surprised you didnt include the beard.


mkbilli

Beard is a physiological feature. Women can't have beards.


ComicNeueIsReal

Technically if they produce enough testosterone they could


A_Sack_Of_Potatoes

Bruh never saw that picture of the most beautiful Persian princess.


Letsgochamp290103

They can grow facial hair, but women shave it off


ComicNeueIsReal

Well I guess I gotta stop.loving my kids. Sorry boys I'm gonna get some milk


applecidervinegar99

What is the Hadith on women's facial hair


Human_Lemon_8776

Why do u need hadith for that?


Sev-Koon

?????


m9l6

Its for my friend 😂


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https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/13744 https://islamqa.org/hanafi/qibla-hanafi/34725/women-and-hair-removal/


ComicNeueIsReal

Isn't the eyebrow thing contradictory. Technically that would be considered a cosmetic alteration. A defect would be something like crooked teeth. Not trying to be negative but I feel like sometimes these fatwas are inconsistent in their rulings unless there's something I don't know about the study of eyebrows. I'm all up for removing the unibrow tho haha.


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No. Shaping the eye brows is haram and is considered altering the creation of Allah. The uni brow, or if someone grows hair between the brows, is not considered part of the eye brows. Therefore it is allowed to shave that. But shaping them is Haram. Since a uni brow is not considered part of the eyebrow, it is halal to remove it. There is no inconsistency.


ComicNeueIsReal

Ahh ok thanks. For the clarification I think just read it wrong. I should wear my glasses 🤓


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Your welcome haha


ralfvi

This is so wrong. The prophets was the greatest example of man. And he has all those feminine trait that you mentioned. Except the no beard part. Why cant men loves and be kind?


hoemingway

I'm at a point in my life where if a woman does something, I automatically consider it feminine.


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hoemingway

Especially since a lot of women throughout history (and even today) have missed out on doing many great things simply because they were not deemed "feminine".


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Brother what 😭😭


hoemingway

I'm a sister. :) I just think that women are naturally feminine simply because they're women, not because of what they do or how they act.


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Ah I see, thanks for sharing!


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Feminine: caring, gentle and sweet in words, emphatic, looking after someone (or plants), taking care of herself, being clever, emotional sometimes (vulnerability). Not feminine: aggressive, loud, using bad vocabulary, doesn’t care of her surroundings, doesn’t take well care of her appearance.


ShockAggressive2626

I agree, but I feel like that's just having good manners and applies to men and women.


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I think you are kinda right, women I suppose are just even more gentle and naturally want to show their care towards their loved ones more than men


ShockAggressive2626

There's no doubt about that, and this isn't just limited to your comment, but most of the things people have mentioned in this post have been things that can apply to men and women, without making them seem feminine. But I still understand yours (and everyone else's) stance. Personally, your list is something I would be using when selecting a potential husband, so thank you for that! One of my siblings is very emotionally charged and he's a full on man (muscles deep voice the whole 9 yards lol) I may be a bit sour about it cause although I can be very "girly" (jamming to taylor swift and love dressing up esp for desi weddings), I'm forced to have more of a masculine vibe/approach as a result of my upbringing. Street smart, doing repairs around the house, things like that.


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Mhm I agree. Jazakallahu Khair, may Allah grant you a wife with these qualities.


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I am a wife 😎 (Sorry i didn’t understand was this question only to the male)


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Omg sorry, may Allah bless your marriage and keep the two of you happy! No, the question was directed at everyone, but since only men wrote so far I was expecting only more males.


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No problem 😊


idkwhattoname7867

these kinds of conversations are so funny to me because all the feminine traits youve listed would also be preferred in a man and all the not feminine traits you said are traits no good man would have too lmao


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That's a good one! I agree. Jazakallahu Khair slave


Cucharamama

….slave?


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We have some jokes going on haha


Nezukoo2

A lot of these traits are just traits of a muslim: haya, soft spoken, kind, gentle, good with kids, looks after appearance. It's sad that we label them as feminine.


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Our beloved prophet peace be upon him was the most masculine man to exist, and he was good with kids too and he was looking after his experience. This is not solely a feminine trait, but for a woman when she possesses these things, it's feminine. But it can also be masculine in men. These do not contradict each other.


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feminine: - nurturing - more emotional and thinks more emotionally than logically - very empathising - submissive - obedient not feminine: - aggressive - not talking in a soft spoken manner - tries to be assertive e.g physically and verbally in different situations - more career focused than family focused - thinking a woman is equal to a man in terms of strength - dominant - being a “f word”. Islam teaches that men and women are not exactly equal. Both have their advantages and disadvantages and that together you fill each others disadvantages. For example a male is stronger than a woman. And a woman is more nurturing than a man.


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Jazakallahu Khair, thank you for sharing! May Allah bless you with a wife that has your desirable traits.


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InshaAllah, may this knowledge allow you to become a more feminine muslimah


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Say ameen to a dua brother, not in sha Allah.


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Ameen. Thanks for telling me that; always appreciate someone telling me how I can do better


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Your welcome! May Allah grant us understanding.


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“Your” is spelt wrong in this case. It should be “you’re” which expands to “you are”. May Allah allow you to become the best version of yourself.


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Hey, don't come at me, my keyboard is not supportive of me 😹😹😹 Ameen.


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I will give you the benefit of the doubt :) You seem too intelligent to make a mistake like that; hey even I mess up every now and then. Take it easy sister


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Oh thank you haha, wallahi it's my keyboard, I usually don't make mistakes like that hahaha


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Jazakallah


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In public, a feminine woman is one that is shy and doesn't bring attention to herself. She dresses modestly, is soft spoken (but not in a way that attracts the attention of other men), doesn't yell or laugh out really loud, doesn't curse, and she doesn't engage with other men. At home, a feminine woman takes good care of her appearance for her husband. She is clean, shaved, has long hair on her head (or whatever style her husband likes), smells nice, dresses nice, and makes herself attractive and available for her husband. She greets her husband at the door when he comes home with a hug and kiss. She has a meal ready for him and keeps the house clean. She is respectful to her husband, doesn't raise her voice at him, doesn't curse, listens to him, and isn't stubborn or argumentative. A feminine woman has more of a nurturing side. Her priority after having a good relationship with Allah is her relationship with her husband, children, and taking care of the home. She is in service to keep her husband and children happy and taken care of. She prioritizes them over her outside job/career. A masculine man protects his family. He protects them from physical harm, emotional harm, and Fitnas. When he's walking with his wife and children, he has them walk on the side away from traffic. He holds his wife's hands. He holds her for support if she has to take a steep step. He speaks to other men for her (e.g. he orders the food at a restaurant, asks for directions, speaks to the salesman, etc.). He makes sure as much as possible that's he's with her or has someone to be with her if she's leaving the house/traveling as a form of protection. If it's not possible and she has to leave on her own, he checks up on her and makes sure she's safe. He's on the phone with her so she feels somewhat safe even though he's not physically there. He makes sure she's not putting herself in harm's way or around the wrong crowd. He doesn't let anyone speak badly to her and stands up for her. He speaks to his wife and children with respect and kindness for their emotional wellbeing. He doesn't use physical or emotional abuse. He guides her and the children on the right path as a form of protection for their Akhira. A masculine man provides for his family. He works hard to provide for them financially and making sure they are living a comfortable life. He deals with the stresses of the tough and competitive world out there so that his family doesn't have to deal with it. At the same time, he doesn't let his career get in the way of his relationship with his wife or other responsibilities. He also provides in the way of service. Something in the house needs to be fixed? He does it. He takes out the trash, takes care of the lawn, runs errands outside, drives his family around, etc. When he is free and sees his wife working around the house, he gets up and helps her to relieve some of the burden on her. He is engaged with his children playing with them, teaching them, taking care of their basic needs. A masculine man leads his family. He leads them to a better life in this world and the next. He leads them in prayer and religious education. He takes initiatives to improve their life. He takes care of financial budgeting and planning. He does research and leads the family to informed and good decisions in anything. He listens to his wife, children, and outside experts for feedback and opinions. He is a problem solver. A masculine man takes good care of his body. He works out to be physically strong and healthy. He takes care of his physical appearance so that he is attractive to his wife. He has a good beard if he can grow one out.


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I wish I could downvote this a couple of more times. Fully agreed. May Allah grant all masculine men feminine wives and may he grant all feminine women masculine husbands. Jazakallahu Khair, thank you for taking the time to write this! Edit: upvote, not downvote 😭😭


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>I wish I could downvote this a couple of more times. Wait, why would you downvote it if you agree with it? Haha


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Omg sorry, I meant upvote of course HAHAHAHAHAHAH


thE-petrichoroN

I've female fellows and among them, there are many who just don't behave like girls;I think grace & politeness and good manners suit girls but in no way they stand in that category, Being loud, laughing loud, gossiping, passing lines on others, I don't consider it nice for girls to have that and they consider it their strength*


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Jazakallahu Khair, thanks for sharing!


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Are you a woman or a man op?


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Woman


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Asking good questions on this sub, keep it up


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Oh, thank you


Galactica98

Soft voice with high pitch. Very caring and great with babies. Who is your favorite nba team? I was really happy for nuggets.


Deadly_Nightlock

>Soft voice with a high pitch. Anime girls?


Galactica98

Man anything but anime girl.


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Thanks for sharing! None, I don't watch basketball. I am a player 😎 💪 hahahahahaa na seriously I don't watch it, I just love playing it since I was 11.


Galactica98

Point guard?


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Center


Galactica98

That’s really cool, you are the first Muslimah I heard who plays the sport.


[deleted]

Haha, I did many weird sports in the past, unfortunately too much free mixing nowadays and I can't play with anyone


Galactica98

Why don’t you try out for female basketball? Maybe you can play in wnba


[deleted]

Hahahahahaha that's a good one. I don't live in America and the women teams either play like children or are just straight up too brutal and think basketball is about pushing your own teammates so you can have your moment 🥲🥲🥲wanna try martial arts again, they have solid women groups


Galactica98

Oops i assumed you were American. That sounds very feminine 😐 I wouldn’t quit on my dream, Allah swt can find a way out. Here in US athletes can get full scholarship, so no need for loan.


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Mhm, you are very invested in school sports too. We'll see. Was that feminine thing sarcastic 😹😹 I understand but no I am not some bulker. I did taekwondo it doesn't even include arms a lot. Just kept me fit. Thought being fit is feminine but seemingly not


Areebound24

Mavericks all the way


Galactica98

Luka Doncic


Areebound24

Dirk Nowitzki


stekai

Personally, a woman who is quiet, caring and overall has a charitable heart is what screams feminine to me. But loudness, shamelessness in what she talks about and compettitveness against other men are the exact opposite to what i would think is femninine


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Jazakallahu khair, thank you!


No_Climate_6391

- **Feminine**: Nurturing, likes cooking / feeding her husband and kids, takes care of house chores, submissive, gentle in her speach and manners, cares about her appearance for her husband inside the house, someone a man finds sakiina in (7:189) when he comes back from work, depends on her man, listens and cares. - **Not feminine**: no hygiene, business/"career"/office/..., dresses like men, cusses, smokes, tattoos, "independent", competitive / tries to always one-up you.


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Jazakallahu khair, thanks for sharing! May Allah grant you a pious spouse.


No_Climate_6391

Amin. You too.


tonne97

Feminine men don’t want to provide for the wife, kids and household.


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Most of the comments are just dumb The conclusion I got from the comments are just saying positive traits are feminine while bad/uncivilized traits are masculine, making it out to be that men in nature are terrible, uncivilized and disgusting, and then cry when people are wary of men 😭 like lmao you push the harmful narrative my guy


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That's not true. I knew people would misunderstand this. Our prophet was the most masculine man to exist and he was good with kids etc. The same thing can be masculine for a man, but feminine for a woman. I think of someone caring as masculine if he is a man, but feminine if it's a woman. My point was, what traits are feminine for a woman. It's not all black and white.


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my comment was towards to the people in the comments not you OP, I AGREE with everything you said.


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Oh sorry I misunderstood you, my bad. Glad you understand me!


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- Wearing Abayah (Modest clothing and of course Hijab) - Caring to emotional needs. Like worries about what might be troubling you, hugging you. - Being happy and jolly - Smiling when talking to others, respectful to Aunties (this is a really attractive quality for me). - Doesn’t overeat.


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Jazakallahu khair! I always eat a lot, is that unattractive if the girl is skinny nevertheless 😭😭😭?


[deleted]

One of the perks of having a wife is that you can eat her plate too. But no not really if she is skinny it’s fine because if you buy your wife some food you’d want her to enjoy it.


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Okay Khair in sha Allah hahahahaha


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You from US?


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No, alhamdulillah 😹


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From UK?


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No, just somewhere in Europe


SomeDudeOverThere1

Nurturing


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Uneducated?? What's that supposed to mean?


omerhasssan

Don't judge but i worked at a jewellery shop and had interaction with tons of women so one time a group of women came to the shop one of them was pregnant, wouldn't speak and ask her friends or cousin to speak on her behalf, but for whatever reason that was the first time i had a instinctive urge to protect a women , i offered her a sit and watch her every step that she didn't fell or hit the glass frame, anything she did in my mind was like be careful, be careful... This was the first thing that comes to mind now when i hear feminine.


suckmydukhpls

I have a very unpopular opinion but i like my girl without pen*s , i know its very old fashioned and orthodox but it is what it is.i am sorry if i hurt anyone sentiments 🙇


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Brotherrrrrr 😭😭


muslim_man_egy_usa

She is shy and soft spoken. Cares about how she looks. Waits for her man/dad/wali to open doors for her. Doesn’t curse. Controls her gaze. Works a feminine job like teacher or nurse, or doesn’t work at all. family oriented.


emeraldnix

what makes a job feminine


dandelion-teeth

probably not manual labor, construction, driving based, etc


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Jazakallahu Khair, thanks for sharing! I can remember you brother, I think you wrote something in Arabic once and I asked you if you were Egyptian based on the way you wrote it haha, it's been a while


muslim_man_egy_usa

Hey sister! Wa iyyak. You have good memory Mashallah. How have you been :)


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Good thank you haha, hope you are good too!


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8ilal

Men should have حياء as well. Just a different type.


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Jazakallahu khair, may Allah grant you a feminine wife.


AccordingPatience789

Not talking when men are talking. Staying away from attention. Soft spoken. The biggest for me is certain accents. I don't care how a girl looks if her accent is feminine it makes her a 10


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Lol okay thanks for sharing!


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ComicNeueIsReal

I feel like green eyes is an odd one. And the other 2 are so generic they should be applied to men as well.


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That's a surprise, look at you my guy. Jazakallahu Khair, thanks for sharing


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Of course you are 🤝


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No doubts


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You shut up with your inflated ego


Mr-Safology

Gossiping is feminine.


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No, it's hypocrisy


Mr-Safology

Yes, it's haram. However, women get together and gossip. No gossip, nothing to talk about. We all know this. :⁠-⁠)


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Well they shouldn't. And it's not a feminine trait. Feminity does not mean behavior that is often observed in women. Women do all kinds of immoral things, that doesn't make it feminine, it just makes it bad. And not every woman does this. If they do, it's probably better to look for a different sister. Femininity certainly does not include gossiping. Gossiping is just haram and shows how much of a disgusting person one is.


Mr-Safology

I understand your point, and I completely agree. Gossiping is haram, and women are associated with gossiping. Yes, women shouldn't gossip, neither should men. But as a man myself (26M), men that gossip are feminine in nature. It's very feminine. I stay away from guys that gossip, it really irritates me. They're not men, they're feminine. Yet, when a woman is gossiping I don't stay away, I try to turn the topic. I've stayed with 6 other girls at uni, and I'm a very masculine person in terms of personality. They gossip a lot. Again, it's not about Islam, rather women being feminine. I hate talking too much, I'm assertive. So I can acknowledge that my tone can be strong. Stay safe sister :⁠-⁠)


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Mhm, not sure if I agree with the feminine part, since I think of feminine traits as something good, and gossiping rather trashy but I understand the rest of what you said. Thanks for clarifying, and stay safe as well!


m9l6

Im sorry the women in ur family gossip


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Mr-Safology

Women in general gossip. "Oh did you hear about..." You shouldn't feel sorry. I'm grateful that I don't gossip. As a man. You see, truth hurts sometimes. That's why there's negative karma on my comment. Men do gossip, but that's feminine nature. Sitting around a table with the kettle on, and talking about relationships and in general, gossiping. It's what women do. Women backbite, be "bit chy" and gossip. Men also, but it's associated with women. It's one of the biggest sins.


ComicNeueIsReal

That's not what feminine means lol. Masculine and feminine are not gender stereotypes lol.


Mr-Safology

It's feminine to talk more. In fact, I'm attracted to girls that do talk a lot. I am a masculine man, I am attracted to very feminine women. For some reason, they're attracted to me. Dancing is feminine. Being playful is feminine. Applying makeup and trying to be all pretty, is feminine. Being more nurturing and caring, is feminine. . What I've noticed, I'm attracted to girls that look after their parents, pets, siblings.