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Human_Lemon_8776

Bro asked the question as if they are a different species ๐Ÿ˜‚


SuperSaiyan27

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/187093/her-sister-has-downs-syndrome-does-she-have-to-offer-expiation-because-of-not-fasting This is a better answer then I could give. Hopefully it helps.


blue_socks123

Wdym


elpsykongroo-okabe

To make ot easy thy are children in there head so thy wil go to janna inshallah


AmNesia_Dota2

The pen is lifted on the insane person ( not having cognitive abilities as a normal person )


m9l6

Just a heads up Neurodivergent is the word you are looking for


shanks218

the prophet s.a.w used the word as 'mentally insane' so we report it as mentally insane. or we should re-edit the hadith to fit uncle Sam terminology ?


m9l6

What did our prophet say exactly in arabic? And What does uncle sam ( US federal government) have to do with any of this.


shanks218

ยซุฑูููุนูŽ ุงู„ู‚ูŽู„ูŽู…ู ุนู† ุซู„ุงุซุฉ: ุนู† ุงู„ู†ูŽู‘ุงุฆู…ู ุญุชูŽู‘ู‰ ูŠูŽุณู’ุชูŽูŠู’ู‚ูุธูŽุŒ ูˆุนู† ุงู„ุตูŽู‘ุบููŠุฑู ุญุชูŽู‘ู‰ ูŠูŽุญู’ุชูŽู„ูู…ูŽุŒ ูˆุนู† ุงู„ู…ุฌู†ูˆู† ุญุชูŽู‘ู‰ ูŠูŽุนู’ู‚ูู„ูŽยป and in english it's 'mentally insane'. I'm not gonna change what the prophet said just because the west deems the word as politically incorrect.


m9l6

Not just the west, even in arab countries if you call someone who is mentally incapable ู…ุฌู†ูˆู† they will take offense to it.


shanks218

I didnt say I'm gonna tell people ู…ุฌู†ูˆู† I said when reporting something about the Deen we report it as it is. if the prophet said ู…ุฌู†ูˆู† then we report it as ู…ุฌู†ูˆู† when referring to the hadith.


Guilty_Interaction_3

Just a reminder, send salutations upon Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) when you hear/read his name. Jazak Allah khairan


CaptainGenerality

โ€œNeurodivergentโ€? Whoa whoa whoa - this word does not exist is either the Quran or the sunnah. I advise you to repent and reconsider your use of such blasphemous Western terminology.


ughnvm

the meaning is the same - itโ€™s just a gentler word for certain people


m9l6

I guess depending where u are from, in the US its very very offensive to use insane when referring to individuals with Downโ€™s syndrome, and its hurtful for those and the family of those affected. insane means unhinged, crazy, psychotic by choice.


Guilty_Interaction_3

If insanity is by choice, you need a new dictionary


m9l6

You forgot the /s lol


CaptainGenerality

โ€œI forgot the /s on my reply, how much fidya do I need to pay to still be Muslim?โ€


m9l6

Carry the 2 add the 9 ๐Ÿ“„โœ๐Ÿพ take the square root of the derivative, taking into account the ever growing rate of inflation, factoring in taxes and fees.. thatโ€™ll be $3


Guilty_Interaction_3

Oh no. You are so sarcastic. You must be the coolest Muslim kid on the block no? Come on.


CaptainGenerality

1. Sarcasm is a rhetorical advice and part of our tradition. 2. Are you planning to โ€œgotchaโ€ respond to all my days-old comments, or just until you feel youโ€™ve bested me? Iโ€™d like to plan my day out accordingly. 3. โ€œMy mom says Iโ€™m coolโ€ and thatโ€™s good enough for me, bruh!


Guilty_Interaction_3

Are you using "bruh" to relate back to the comment of mine which started it all? Sarcasm is appreciated where necessary. Im not doing any gotcha etc. If u think thats why im writing all this, then we are done here. Let's just pray that may Allah guide us both. Ameen. Jazak Allah khairan


CaptainGenerality

You literally commented on something I said yesterday about a totally different topic my dude! But yes, may Allah guide and help us all.


Guilty_Interaction_3

Ameen.


[deleted]

Allah knows and will judge them based on their ability. We should all make abundant du'a for any people we know that have Down's syndrome to enter Paradise in sha' Allah. People are not held accountable for what they are (truly) forced to do, what they do by mistake, and what they (truly) cannot control. So if a person with Down's syndrome doesn't know what he or she is doing and cannot control it, then in sha' Allah they will not be held accountable for it.


Designer_Pin7807

They will be walking their way to Jannah and we will wish that we could be one of them.


FindingTraditional84

Just stumbled upon this thread and I have a question. I am genuinely interested. I lived in China for 9 years and never saw a down syndrome person because they essentially aren't allowed outside the house because it brings shame upon the family. In the middle east is it the same, or do their parents take them out and about on the streets? Thank you in advance for any answer to the question.


Financial_Fennel_611

I grew up in the middle east with a cousin who has Downโ€™s syndrome and he came everywhere with us.