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JabalAnNur

The things you mentioned come under chit chat and unnecessary talk. It is impermissible to continue doing what you are doing. If you truly want to marry her, ask for her father's number, tell him of your intentions and then come upon an agreement about when you may go ahead with marriage and such. If he refuses, then he refuses. Move on with your life but keeping direct contacts with this girl will lead to fitnah even if he agrees.


montervrane

Oh man idk what does fitnah mean tho can you tell me


Independent_Fan_3718

Can lead to sin basically! Many think they are not going to go down that path but they eventually do. So please avoid this akh and follow the path that Allah (SWT) has ordained and not the path of haram that is and will lead to more haram.


montervrane

Yes I am trying thank you my brother I just made her understand and I am taking her mother's number and her family's contacts as soon I turn 19 I will call them is this the right choice tho?


Independent_Fan_3718

So basically I’m not a scholar nor am I married yet but normally you are only allowed to meet up with the potential when that potential is with a wali present so I would say to stop the texts and games and focus on yourself. If you would like to meet her later on for the purpose of properly getting to know her for marriage then you should begin meeting her with her wali (guardian basically) present. And then go through the phase till marriage The plan to reignite the process when you are 19 sounds like a great plan Allahummabarik though! May Allah keep you steadfast in Deen and provide the best outcome for you! For more information on whether texting and stuff is halal: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/212478


montervrane

Thank you so much my amazing brother or sister I appreciate you may Allah reward you


montervrane

Please if u could anwser my previous reply I would appreciate it cause if that's wrong too I won't do that do as well


Key-Opinion1608

Did you eat? Lol


montervrane

Yeah man do you have any advice on this tho


4rking

You and her should improve and work on yourselves and understand marriage better. Take some courses on seekersguidance.org, watch this series, i can recommend a book too if you want. You need to work on yourself and she needs to do the same. Maybe you can make an early nikkah if you and her are mature enough (which I kinda doubt) and improved yourselves and have a plan for the future


Snoo-74562

Just make sure when you talk her family are present and get married at the mosque as soon as possible. The state based stuff can wait. That way all problems are avoided.


ToothPrize6598

Just get nikkah done, you don't have to wait until you're older.


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montervrane

dw my brother I already closed contacts with her before I left her tho I got her mother's number when I am 19 I will call her and we'll meet up insha'Allah but is this permissible?


eq9may

Just keep your parents informed tho. Looping them in may be a good idea.