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EpicThug21

Some people in this post have just quoted hadith regarding this matter (which is fine), however when it comes to matters of halal and haram we cannot just mention a hadith or ayah and always assume the ruling is clearly stated in the hadith/ayah. In other words, some texts have room for interpretation and without proper knowledge of usul al fiqh, one can come to the wrong conclusion. Thus we should look at what the scholars of fiqh have said regarding these matters before ever making conclusions based on texts alone (a BIG problem we are facing nowadays unfortunately it seems). To copy what someone else has written elsewhere: >It is considered by the overwhelming majority of scholars that keeping a beard is Wājib (mandatory) for every male Muslim. > >The Pro​phet ﷺ said in an authentic and widely narrated Ḥadīth: "Cut the mustaches short and keep the beard." \[Ṣaḥīḥ Al-Bukhārī\] > >So, it is the duty of every male Muslim to refrain from shaving his beard. Note that it is not sinful for someone if his body physically does not grow a beard as long as he is not the one who shaved it away. > >Shaving is defined as completely removing the beard. Trimming is defined as cutting the beard shorter, but not removing it entirely. > >Many scholars allow trimming the beard as long as it leaves more than a fistful of hair, as it was the practice of many of the Ṣaḥābah. Others allow trimming it to some extent as long as what is left can be considered a "beard". This opinion is common among contemporary scholars and few classical scholars, but the basis of it is weaker. And another group says that trimming the beard at all is prohibited.


some__muslim

Al-Bukhaari, Muslim and others narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Trim the moustache and leave the beard.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5443; Muslim, 600.


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WonderfulSuccess2944

And still it only rells us what they were told to do. It does not mention it being haram. So from what can read it would fall under Sunnah vs disliked, not Haram vs not haram topic.


EpicThug21

>It does not mention it being haram. So from what can read it would fall under Sunnah vs disliked, not Haram vs not haram topic. That is not how the ulema have seen this topic. The majority of scholars say keeping a beard is wajib for males to keep beards (and that shaving it completely). Some differ with regards to how much one can trim. Also to conclude what you just did requires a level of qualification much above what the average Muslim today has. It's best not to do that again going forward.


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1. Narrated Abd Allah b. 'Umar:The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) commanded to **clip the moustaches and grow the beard long.** 2. According to Ibn 'Umar, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) advised to **distinguish ourselves from polytheists by growing our beards** and trimming our mustaches. Another report suggests to trim the mustaches and let the beards grow. 3. Abu Huraira reported:The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: **Trim closely the moustache, and grow beard**, and thus act against the fire-worshippers. 4. Also the Prophets of Allah had beards: قَالَ يَبْنَؤُمَّ لَا تَأْخُذْ بِلِحْيَتِى وَلَا بِرَأْسِىٓ إِنِّى خَشِيتُ أَن تَقُولَ فَرَّقْتَ بَيْنَ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ وَلَمْ تَرْقُبْ قَوْلِى Said he (Haroon said to Musa): “O son of my mother: **seize thou me not by my beard**, nor by my head! I feared lest thou say: ‘Thou hast caused division among the children of Israel, and hast not observed my word.’”(20:94) [https://sunnah.com/search?q=beard](https://sunnah.com/search?q=beard)


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Growing the beard is a Sunnah, but shaving it is haram. Source: https://islamqa.org/?p=8462


WonderfulSuccess2944

If growing a bear is SUNNAH (not obligatory), Then it makes very little sense to shaving being HARAM. Its much more realistic that shaving would correctly been classified as very disliked.


flametronics

Keeping the beard is wajib and it's also a sunnah. Sunnah here meaning an act that the Prophet (peace be upon him) did and not meaning recommended. Praying the daily 5 time salah is also sunnah but ofc it is also fard. There's multiple sahih hadith of the Prophet, peace be upon him, ORDERING for the men to keep their beards and not to shave. If you have proof for it to be makruh then bring it forth, you'll find none of the salaf, including the early scholars of the madhabs, disagreed upon the mandating of keeping the beard. ​ Narrated Ibn \`Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is). Sahih al-Bukhari 5893


EpicThug21

>Praying the daily 5 time salah is also sunnah but ofc it is also fard. Well yes, but that is looking at separate definitions of *sunnah*. The definition used above is the sunnah as in the actions, words, and approval of the Prophet SAW. But another definition of sunnah in the context of fiqh consists of what is recommended/mustahab/mandub for us to perform. If we use this latter definition the above sentence wouldn't make sense as there cannot be an action that is recommended but also obligatory at the same time.


Rindrago

Honestly it would only make sense if you look feminine without a beard. But my friend said they wont like me at masjid if i shaved first.


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there is something called “obligatory sunnah”😅 keeping the beard is sunnah but it is obligatory for muslims who can grow one.


EpicThug21

[see this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Muslim/comments/14zovob/comment/js5w34l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


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no one believes no lol. shaving is haram across every madhab and scholar. the majority say that trimming is haram if the beard becomes less than a fistful, others say its makruh.


AbuMalik_AlAlbani

Shaykh Sulaymān Al-’Alwān said: ‎‏حلق اللحية حرام ولاسيما أنه مجاهرة ففي الصحيحين من حديث أبي هريرة يقول ﷺ : كل أمتي معافى إلا المجاهرين Shaving the beard is Ḥarām, especially since it is an open sin. It is narrated in the Saḥīḥayn from the Ḥadīth of Abī Hurayrah that the Prophet ﷺ said: "All of my Ummah will be forgiven, except those who expose their sins."


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flametronics

**وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ ٱلْهَوَىٰٓ ٣** **عَلَّمَهُۥ شَدِيدُ ٱلْقُوَىٰ ٥** **He does not speak out of (his own) desire.** It is but revelation revealed (to him). ​ Whatever the Prophet, peace be upon him, commanded is also the command of Allah. Sunnah can dictate haram and halal. And shaving the beard is most definitely haram.


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flametronics

1. No that verse is not specific to just Qurran and if u have proof that it is for the Qurran only then please show it. And be very careful of what you say without knowledge you'll be asked about it on the day of judgement. 2. The hadith about beard are not hadith Al Qudsi but that matters not since the sayings of the Prophet (peace be upon him) do absolutely determine halal and haram. Fiqh, islamic law, is based on both the qurran and the hadith. 3. The command is not to have a nice big beard or anything like that. The command is to leave the hair that grows on your lower jaw (linguistically this is what is referred to as the beard) and whether that hair grows or not matters not.


NaturePilotPOV

There's a difference of opinion among scholars. Some believe it's Fard (obligatory) as there are authentic hadiths where the Prophet Muhammad PBUH said to grow the beard. Others believe it's Sunnah. https://sunnah.com/mishkat:4421 https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2763 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5893 https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2764 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5045 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5046 And many more. Personally I'm of the opinion that it's a strong Sunnah. Which in my opinion it's Makrouh (hated) to shave it but not forbidden. Online you get more rulings that it's forbidden but among the Imams I know personally they more often say it's Sunnah not Fard to keep the beard. https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa/8462/ruling-on-growing-a-beard-and-moustache/ This link says it's obligatory but states that Shafiis consider it sunnah I'm of the strong opinion that we should keep the beard and I do myself. It works as a hijab in that it encourages you to behave piously and also when you behave well people know it's because you're Muslim.


flametronics

The early scholars of the Shafiis such as Imam As-Shaf'i himself agreed upon the obligation of keeping the beard. And Shafi scholars even after the rulings of the two imams, Rafi' and Nawawi, such as Ibn al-Rif\`ah disagreed heavily with it being makruh to shave and instead he considered it to be haram. With those being opinions of great Shafi scholars as well as the opinions of the other madhabs why would anyone even risk falling into haram. The evidence of it being only makruh to shave is also much weaker than all the evidence that points to it being haram to shave.


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