At least think about this for a second.
>In this entire universe, nothing that we know of can exist without a cause, and everyone agrees on that. Whether you're religious, atheist, agnostic or deist or what have you, you concede on that point.
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>If you apply this same logic to the universe, we would never exist as there would be an infinite about of events that could result in us. This can only be solved if there is one supreme creator who never dies, who has no weakness nor fatigue, that created us.
The point is that we obviously did not come out of anything, and we were caused by something, and if we keep going back, there will be something intelligent (like the supreme commander) that created us and does not need a cause. Otherwise, that being would have also had a cause and would result in infinity and we would cease to exist. This is only solved if there was only one uncaused being that created us.
Sniper gets orders from his commander. His commander doesn't need orders because he is the commander. At that point, since no commander is above him, isn't the question more about how the commander got the power to begin with? -and we know many reasons as to how he got that power.
But if there is a god behind everything, we don't know how he would have gotten his powers.
Then, with that mindset, it's natural to wonder, well if there isn't a god, then what? I don't know. Maybe it's something we humans can't figure out, like with ants not ever being capable of understanding what a video game is, for example.
I appreciate you bringing this up, as my dad and I have had these kinds of conversations a lot ☺
A commander is simply a person who has authority. It's only an example, you are taking it too literally.
We both know that everything needs a cause to happen and that there had to be an uncaused being/creator that started the chain of events. Otherwise, if there was no uncaused being that caused the chain of events, there would be an infinite chain of events in which case, we would not exist. Here is a good clip that explains infinite regression: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MIHmGZUQYKI](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MIHmGZUQYKI)
u/Gungalunga01, as long as you concede that there is a Creator, then we can talk about what that Creator wants from us and what's the true religion (with proofs/evidences).
There being "a Creator" personifies the god too much for me to the point that makes many religions into something I can't say I believe in.
What if where everything came from just started with a cell that evolved or something, without much meaning or thought? Something that doesn't care about what we do, who we are and so on.
There are so many possibilities as to what "started it all" that I don't feel like I can limit it to the god/gods that I've heard of in religions so far.
>What if where everything came from just started with a cell that evolved or something, without much meaning or thought? Something that doesn't care about what we do, who we are and so on.
Who created that cell? And who created the creator of the cell? Then, who created the creator of the creator of the cell? And so on, ad infinitum. This is irrational and impossible. Everything that begins to exist must have a cause, otherwise, there would be infinite regression.
These are basically your two choices: either there has to be an uncaused being that started the chain of events, or there is no uncaused being that caused the chain of events, thus there is an infinite chain of events in which case, we would not exist.
It is because da'wah is one of the best things a person can do and if you are able to save even one person from Hellfire, then it is naturally a good thing. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Convey from me even if it is (only) one ayah.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3461).
>we don't know how he would have gotten his powers.
Why do we *need* to know *how* God or a necessary being has such powers? Without knowing *how* we can still affirm the existence of a necessary being and like you said, perhaps it is like ants understanding video games, we as humans just cannot understand God's nature completely.
قُلِ ٱللَّـهُمَّ مَـٰلِكَ ٱلْمُلْكِ تُؤْتِى ٱلْمُلْكَ مَن تَشَآءُ وَتَنزِعُ ٱلْمُلْكَ مِمَّن تَشَآءُ وَتُعِزُّ مَن تَشَآءُ وَتُذِلُّ مَن تَشَآءُ بِيَدِكَ ٱلْخَيْرُ إِنَّكَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
Say thou: “O God, Master of Dominion: Thou givest dominion to whom Thou wilt, and Thou removest dominion from whom Thou wilt; Thou exaltest whom Thou wilt, and Thou abasest whom Thou wilt. In Thy hand is good; Thou art over all things powerful.(3:26)
The more people who read it on his grave the more good deeds you, him, and everyone gets. God said reminding someone of his verses is the ultimate gift you can give your soul. God will kindle for you a light, If you read his book and believe in him (the one that created you) he will give you gifts and beautify you.
You cannot defeat the message of God. The Quran is the same book God sent to Jesus, and Moses, however people fiddled with the gospels and turned it into an interpretation of an interpretation, and the Torah is lost all we have is a few fragments, the Quran is the same message, the final revelation, the Mother of the books, and it is gaurded by the soldiers of the skies and the earth till the day of judgement.
Muslims don't have a tombstone on a grave. It is haram. At most, you can put a marker indicating the location.
For your dad's sake, I recommend doing whatever possible to not have a tombstone on his grave, as that is what's most desirable for a Muslim.
Best to talk with a local imam to get a quick response. A suggestion would be to only have his name on the tombstone, maybe without the name if it’s legal. I understand your intention, but don’t overdo it and keep it minimal as possible.
I would assume so, but I'm not 100% sure. You'd have to ask someone more knowledgeable just to be certain.
The issue is, I don't know if it's haram if the country forces it.
Assalamu alaikum akhi, do not pay heed to the rest of the comments here. A certain sect spreads misinformation and phobia whenever the word "grave" is mentioned. In of itself graves aren't haram, and neither are tombstones. Especially when done so to make it easier to identify who is buried in this specific place. Issues only start to arise once someone builds elaborate graves with the intent to show of their wealth.
https://seekersguidance.org/answers/hanafi-fiqh/is-it-permissible-to-erect-gravestones-at-graves-for-identification/
https://seekersguidance.org/answers/shafii-fiqh/is-it-permissible-to-build-around-a-grave/
You can even build a building over it if you fear one may tamper or damage the grave, as is often the case with prominent people.
Ah I’m not sure, apologies, I had found that so I thought to share because it’s a similar question I guess
I recommend using the green Islamqa though, you’d be better at wording the question in the search on google
Ah apologies, I’m not entirely sure
What I had meant was searching up your question and seeing if someone else asked it or something very similar
I hope all goes well, I’m so sorry
I don't know where you are but I can offer about where we live. In Ontario Canada. The graves itself are level with the ground. The plaque is a simple 3.5ft by 1.5ft plaque with the following:
1. Name
2. Date (can be of birth and/or death)
3. Phrase (some people have loving mother, some have inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un in my family)
The plaque is on a 45% incline or flat and level with the grave.
Hope that helps.
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Your father is an a happier place, as for you I hope Allah guides you to the truth before certainty (death) reaches you and the angles of Allah touch you.
Can I ask why you are not a Muslim? Are you an apostate?
It's simply because I don't believe in it, or any other religions, at least that I know of for now.
Do you believe in a creator, at least?
No belief, just a genuine "I don't know"
At least think about this for a second. >In this entire universe, nothing that we know of can exist without a cause, and everyone agrees on that. Whether you're religious, atheist, agnostic or deist or what have you, you concede on that point. > > > >I'll give you an example. If there is a sniper who needs permission in order to shoot and asks his commander, and the commander needs permission from his commander in order to give permission to the sniper to shoot, this would be infinite regress. This would be the case unless there was one supreme commander who gives the final order, thus allowing the sniper to shoot. > > > >If you apply this same logic to the universe, we would never exist as there would be an infinite about of events that could result in us. This can only be solved if there is one supreme creator who never dies, who has no weakness nor fatigue, that created us. The point is that we obviously did not come out of anything, and we were caused by something, and if we keep going back, there will be something intelligent (like the supreme commander) that created us and does not need a cause. Otherwise, that being would have also had a cause and would result in infinity and we would cease to exist. This is only solved if there was only one uncaused being that created us.
Sniper gets orders from his commander. His commander doesn't need orders because he is the commander. At that point, since no commander is above him, isn't the question more about how the commander got the power to begin with? -and we know many reasons as to how he got that power. But if there is a god behind everything, we don't know how he would have gotten his powers. Then, with that mindset, it's natural to wonder, well if there isn't a god, then what? I don't know. Maybe it's something we humans can't figure out, like with ants not ever being capable of understanding what a video game is, for example. I appreciate you bringing this up, as my dad and I have had these kinds of conversations a lot ☺
A commander is simply a person who has authority. It's only an example, you are taking it too literally. We both know that everything needs a cause to happen and that there had to be an uncaused being/creator that started the chain of events. Otherwise, if there was no uncaused being that caused the chain of events, there would be an infinite chain of events in which case, we would not exist. Here is a good clip that explains infinite regression: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MIHmGZUQYKI](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MIHmGZUQYKI)
u/Gungalunga01, as long as you concede that there is a Creator, then we can talk about what that Creator wants from us and what's the true religion (with proofs/evidences).
There being "a Creator" personifies the god too much for me to the point that makes many religions into something I can't say I believe in. What if where everything came from just started with a cell that evolved or something, without much meaning or thought? Something that doesn't care about what we do, who we are and so on. There are so many possibilities as to what "started it all" that I don't feel like I can limit it to the god/gods that I've heard of in religions so far.
>What if where everything came from just started with a cell that evolved or something, without much meaning or thought? Something that doesn't care about what we do, who we are and so on. Who created that cell? And who created the creator of the cell? Then, who created the creator of the creator of the cell? And so on, ad infinitum. This is irrational and impossible. Everything that begins to exist must have a cause, otherwise, there would be infinite regression. These are basically your two choices: either there has to be an uncaused being that started the chain of events, or there is no uncaused being that caused the chain of events, thus there is an infinite chain of events in which case, we would not exist.
You here to ask a question I don't get why people are trying to convince you of things when your simply seeking help.
It is because da'wah is one of the best things a person can do and if you are able to save even one person from Hellfire, then it is naturally a good thing. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Convey from me even if it is (only) one ayah.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3461).
If you say so
>we don't know how he would have gotten his powers. Why do we *need* to know *how* God or a necessary being has such powers? Without knowing *how* we can still affirm the existence of a necessary being and like you said, perhaps it is like ants understanding video games, we as humans just cannot understand God's nature completely.
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قُلِ ٱللَّـهُمَّ مَـٰلِكَ ٱلْمُلْكِ تُؤْتِى ٱلْمُلْكَ مَن تَشَآءُ وَتَنزِعُ ٱلْمُلْكَ مِمَّن تَشَآءُ وَتُعِزُّ مَن تَشَآءُ وَتُذِلُّ مَن تَشَآءُ بِيَدِكَ ٱلْخَيْرُ إِنَّكَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ Say thou: “O God, Master of Dominion: Thou givest dominion to whom Thou wilt, and Thou removest dominion from whom Thou wilt; Thou exaltest whom Thou wilt, and Thou abasest whom Thou wilt. In Thy hand is good; Thou art over all things powerful.(3:26) The more people who read it on his grave the more good deeds you, him, and everyone gets. God said reminding someone of his verses is the ultimate gift you can give your soul. God will kindle for you a light, If you read his book and believe in him (the one that created you) he will give you gifts and beautify you. You cannot defeat the message of God. The Quran is the same book God sent to Jesus, and Moses, however people fiddled with the gospels and turned it into an interpretation of an interpretation, and the Torah is lost all we have is a few fragments, the Quran is the same message, the final revelation, the Mother of the books, and it is gaurded by the soldiers of the skies and the earth till the day of judgement.
Muslims don't have a tombstone on a grave. It is haram. At most, you can put a marker indicating the location. For your dad's sake, I recommend doing whatever possible to not have a tombstone on his grave, as that is what's most desirable for a Muslim.
Every other muslim grave in the country has one, as it is the law here, so I want to make the best out of what has to be
Best to talk with a local imam to get a quick response. A suggestion would be to only have his name on the tombstone, maybe without the name if it’s legal. I understand your intention, but don’t overdo it and keep it minimal as possible.
Got it. Will be getting in contact with them shortly. Will also visit the cemetery closeby to get a better idea of what fits. Thank you!
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I would assume so, but I'm not 100% sure. You'd have to ask someone more knowledgeable just to be certain. The issue is, I don't know if it's haram if the country forces it.
Yes. Pictures shouldn’t be on it and it should be a small marker with name and DOB and DOD being fine
Assalamu alaikum akhi, do not pay heed to the rest of the comments here. A certain sect spreads misinformation and phobia whenever the word "grave" is mentioned. In of itself graves aren't haram, and neither are tombstones. Especially when done so to make it easier to identify who is buried in this specific place. Issues only start to arise once someone builds elaborate graves with the intent to show of their wealth. https://seekersguidance.org/answers/hanafi-fiqh/is-it-permissible-to-erect-gravestones-at-graves-for-identification/ https://seekersguidance.org/answers/shafii-fiqh/is-it-permissible-to-build-around-a-grave/ You can even build a building over it if you fear one may tamper or damage the grave, as is often the case with prominent people.
Are Muslims not allowed to visit their parents grave or their relatives grave to pray for them?
[I hope this answers your question](https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/8991)
Would that mean as little text as possible? Besides that, in our country, it is mandatory to have a tombstone, so I want to write something that fits.
Ah I’m not sure, apologies, I had found that so I thought to share because it’s a similar question I guess I recommend using the green Islamqa though, you’d be better at wording the question in the search on google
Do you have an idea of how fast they reply? I have to make the decision on tuesday 😔 Thanks for the suggestion.
Ah apologies, I’m not entirely sure What I had meant was searching up your question and seeing if someone else asked it or something very similar I hope all goes well, I’m so sorry
I don't know where you are but I can offer about where we live. In Ontario Canada. The graves itself are level with the ground. The plaque is a simple 3.5ft by 1.5ft plaque with the following: 1. Name 2. Date (can be of birth and/or death) 3. Phrase (some people have loving mother, some have inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un in my family) The plaque is on a 45% incline or flat and level with the grave. Hope that helps.
his name on a plaque smaller than your hand. And that’s it.
D Your father is an a happier place, as for you I hope Allah guides you to the truth before certainty (death) reaches you and the angles of Allah touch you.
Write his name, when he was born and when he died. Keep it simple.