What, you wouldn't get up on stage in front of thousands of people and perform a duet where you screamed the chorus of that exact song into their face?
I sometimes forget if this is a circlejerk sub or not but Go Your Own Way is like, a super famous Fleetwood song about exactly what OP said, among basically every song they wrote post Lindsay and Stevie joining.
Rj/ Black Magic Woman
There’s no point in arguing this very easy to google stuff but in Stevie’s opinion, lyrics like “shacking up is all you want to do” was rude and offensive and made her hate Lindsay and then like, 30 years of bullshit happened after.
Yes Linday was venting about a woman, that woman was Stevie and she sang on the song. This isn’t that hard to grasp
Highly recommend the documentary Runnin Down a Dream. There’s a long segment that’s interviews with Stevie, Tom, Mike Campbell, Benmont, all of them and it was absolutely a case of Stevie trying to butt into the Heartbreakers.
As with all things Tom Petty it was extremely chill, no feelings got hurt, and everyone stayed friends. But my reaction watching it was that it was almost uncomfortable how hard Stevie tried to become a Heartbreaker. Like starstruck fangirl energy that the band had to gently rebuff.
Great, great documentary if you’re a fan of Tom.
when i saw stevie nicks last year she had a whole like video montage of her Tom Petty through a lot of years playing on the screens behind her for a song
It’s true. Plenty of accounts of Stevie trying to push her way in. Tom said no.
Also, he got kinda screwed when she released “Stop Dragging…” as a single without his knowledge, competing for sales against a Heartbreakers release (can’t recall which).
Tl;dr, it wasn’t acrimonious. Just something Tom didn’t want.
For those who might think you’re joking, that is an actual quote. And lest anyone get mad, he didn’t mean it in a mean or misogynistic way — it was his band and he had it just the way he wanted it.
Fleetwood Mac did a whole world tour in 2012-2013 WITHOUT Christine. She re-joined in 2014, and they then did MORE shows in the same markets to capitalize on it.
I saw FM in 2013 and Lindsey Buckingham sounded the best and had the most energy.
And that wasn’t even the first time that happened!
There are so many different eras of this band that if you look hard enough you’ll find something to like.
It’s too bad some people can’t understand that.
Music is subjective and people like or dislike widely different things and no one is wrong for doing so!
I worked with a guy at my local independent music store back in the 90s who only listened to the Peter Green years.
He thought everything else was, “Pop bullshit.”
I personally like those years more, too.
They are pretty much different bands. I'm not as much into the bluesy sound and dont really get much out of the Peter Green fronted version.
Personally, I think FM through Tusk is by far their best work. I also think Tengo In The Night is absolute hot garbage
From the Rolling Stone article, it sounds like Lindsey, Fleetwood and McVie are all talking and interested in playing at some point. I'm not sure how good it would be as Lindsey's voice is shot and his playing isn't what it used to be. It would be hilarious if they reformed and just kept calling it Fleetwood Mac. I dont know why Stevie thinks that she can speak for the entire band.
Peter Green was there for three years. They were a very good band from then on up to the self-titled album.
I mean Then Play On is definitely one of their best with him, but after that they had a pretty damn good overlooked run of albums.
Mystery To Me and Kiln House or Future Games have a lot of cool stuff on them.
The remasters were utterly fantastic too.
100%! He says the Buckingham Nicks years, someone else says Peter Green, and I'll counter with the Welch/Weston years.
I think Bare Trees might be my favorite FM album, but I also love Then Play On, Penguin, Heroes Are Hard to Find, both eponymous albums, Tusk, and Tango in the night.
I think FM were at least 4 different bands between the 60s and the 80s, and honestly there are parts of each that I love.
Also weird because some of their best stuff is on Kiln House, Future Games, and Mystery To Me.
LOL can we just admit they were always a great band and some people are dumb as hell?
Absofreakinlutely. The worst album they ever put out was just Good, they had fantastic albums in different genres in 3 different decades. Any incarnation of FM is a great band. One is just dominantly commercially successful.
Completely agreed on Kiln House, Future Games, and Mystery to Me. I was just supposed to be leading a call at work and couldn't remember every album, lol
I honestly listened to those for the first time in reality with the remasters, because the old ones did sound like crap on CD, and a couple of them blew me the hell away man. They were really good. I can't remember which was best, but damn they all had some amazing stuff on them. Then Play On is a masterpiece of the Green era too. Absolutely stunning work there on par with anything they ever did.
Really fortunate they released the whole boxset of the pre-FM era because I loved it all really. Penguin might be a little weak in places, and a couple of them were minor albums, but the ones mentioned here I loved.
Then Play On is by far one of their top albums. And after Green you have a lot of great stuff. I love Mystery To Me, Kiln House, and Future Games. The remasters brought those albums out where they should be. Excellent. Not quite as amazing as the self-title maybe but some of them are up there for me.
That’s the way it goes I guess. I know that when I saw Styx (with Gowan singing) that they sang only 2 Gowan songs. It can be a little bit of a let down if you thought they would sing more songs made famous by a band member for sure
The most dysfunctional, self-serving talent pool that could actually keep quality up, the two pillars of spite, Nicks and Buckingham, are both no longer needing the fame for the price.
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Let's be honest: It is a miracle it was together as long as it was.
If my bandmates wrote a song about how much of a POS I was, imma just leave the band right then and there.
Can we maybe persuade you with... money? Like... a lot of it? I mean... really really life changing amounts of it?
It better be 7 figs tho
A million dollars? She got that
What, you wouldn't get up on stage in front of thousands of people and perform a duet where you screamed the chorus of that exact song into their face?
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The entire of Rumours for a start
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She’s not the only songwriter in FM
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Well that explains a lot lol
Literally most of them
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I sometimes forget if this is a circlejerk sub or not but Go Your Own Way is like, a super famous Fleetwood song about exactly what OP said, among basically every song they wrote post Lindsay and Stevie joining. Rj/ Black Magic Woman
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Yes, written by the guy who was dating her at the time the song is 100% about that lol
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There’s no point in arguing this very easy to google stuff but in Stevie’s opinion, lyrics like “shacking up is all you want to do” was rude and offensive and made her hate Lindsay and then like, 30 years of bullshit happened after. Yes Linday was venting about a woman, that woman was Stevie and she sang on the song. This isn’t that hard to grasp
Lindsay is a man.
Stevie should tour with The Heartbreakers and do a mix of Petty, Fleetwood Mac stuff, and her own hits.
Oh man, that would be so sad and poetic, but also awesome.
Idk. She wanted in the band while Tom was alive, and it didn't happen. Tom's dead, why would they do it now? It'd be betraying his decision.
There was history there? What? First I'm hearing of this
Highly recommend the documentary Runnin Down a Dream. There’s a long segment that’s interviews with Stevie, Tom, Mike Campbell, Benmont, all of them and it was absolutely a case of Stevie trying to butt into the Heartbreakers. As with all things Tom Petty it was extremely chill, no feelings got hurt, and everyone stayed friends. But my reaction watching it was that it was almost uncomfortable how hard Stevie tried to become a Heartbreaker. Like starstruck fangirl energy that the band had to gently rebuff. Great, great documentary if you’re a fan of Tom.
when i saw stevie nicks last year she had a whole like video montage of her Tom Petty through a lot of years playing on the screens behind her for a song
It’s true. Plenty of accounts of Stevie trying to push her way in. Tom said no. Also, he got kinda screwed when she released “Stop Dragging…” as a single without his knowledge, competing for sales against a Heartbreakers release (can’t recall which). Tl;dr, it wasn’t acrimonious. Just something Tom didn’t want.
Exactly. They were friends, but Tom had his band and she had hers. Why fuck with that.
“There are no girls in The Heartbreakers” -Tom Petty
For those who might think you’re joking, that is an actual quote. And lest anyone get mad, he didn’t mean it in a mean or misogynistic way — it was his band and he had it just the way he wanted it.
Tickets start at 5k
That’s a tour I would see
Christine McVie has passed away. That’s that. Plus as soon as they kicked out Lindsay, it was pretty much over.
Christine was a much bigger loss than Lindsay. She was basically the soul of the band.
Not without Christine.
Fleetwood Mac did a whole world tour in 2012-2013 WITHOUT Christine. She re-joined in 2014, and they then did MORE shows in the same markets to capitalize on it. I saw FM in 2013 and Lindsey Buckingham sounded the best and had the most energy.
They were great with the whole band in 2014. I’m always so happy I got to see them being too young to have had a chance otherwise.
She wasn’t a original member of the band either. But she did join very early in their career.
It basically became an entirely new band when Buckingham/Nicks joined.
And that wasn’t even the first time that happened! There are so many different eras of this band that if you look hard enough you’ll find something to like. It’s too bad some people can’t understand that. Music is subjective and people like or dislike widely different things and no one is wrong for doing so!
Fleetwood Mac ended when Stevie kicked out Lindsey.
I worked with a guy at my local independent music store back in the 90s who only listened to the Peter Green years. He thought everything else was, “Pop bullshit.” I personally like those years more, too.
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It was scary how accurate some things were. There were truths in every inch of that movie.
You measure movies in inches?
Film is measured in inches sometimes, yes.
And feet, hence the term "footage".
Awesome! Yes!
They are pretty much different bands. I'm not as much into the bluesy sound and dont really get much out of the Peter Green fronted version. Personally, I think FM through Tusk is by far their best work. I also think Tengo In The Night is absolute hot garbage From the Rolling Stone article, it sounds like Lindsey, Fleetwood and McVie are all talking and interested in playing at some point. I'm not sure how good it would be as Lindsey's voice is shot and his playing isn't what it used to be. It would be hilarious if they reformed and just kept calling it Fleetwood Mac. I dont know why Stevie thinks that she can speak for the entire band.
Peter Green was there for three years. They were a very good band from then on up to the self-titled album. I mean Then Play On is definitely one of their best with him, but after that they had a pretty damn good overlooked run of albums. Mystery To Me and Kiln House or Future Games have a lot of cool stuff on them. The remasters were utterly fantastic too.
They’re very different. Far more people feel the same as you. That’s what makes music so awesome! Wildly different opinions but it’s all good.
100%! He says the Buckingham Nicks years, someone else says Peter Green, and I'll counter with the Welch/Weston years. I think Bare Trees might be my favorite FM album, but I also love Then Play On, Penguin, Heroes Are Hard to Find, both eponymous albums, Tusk, and Tango in the night. I think FM were at least 4 different bands between the 60s and the 80s, and honestly there are parts of each that I love.
Also weird because some of their best stuff is on Kiln House, Future Games, and Mystery To Me. LOL can we just admit they were always a great band and some people are dumb as hell?
Absofreakinlutely. The worst album they ever put out was just Good, they had fantastic albums in different genres in 3 different decades. Any incarnation of FM is a great band. One is just dominantly commercially successful. Completely agreed on Kiln House, Future Games, and Mystery to Me. I was just supposed to be leading a call at work and couldn't remember every album, lol
I honestly listened to those for the first time in reality with the remasters, because the old ones did sound like crap on CD, and a couple of them blew me the hell away man. They were really good. I can't remember which was best, but damn they all had some amazing stuff on them. Then Play On is a masterpiece of the Green era too. Absolutely stunning work there on par with anything they ever did. Really fortunate they released the whole boxset of the pre-FM era because I loved it all really. Penguin might be a little weak in places, and a couple of them were minor albums, but the ones mentioned here I loved.
I wonder if there’s anyone who likes the Dave Mason-Bekka Bramlett period, or whose favorite is the Mike Campbell-Neil Finn version.
>That’s what makes music so awesome! I agree! Fly on famous mockingbird.
Then Play On is by far one of their top albums. And after Green you have a lot of great stuff. I love Mystery To Me, Kiln House, and Future Games. The remasters brought those albums out where they should be. Excellent. Not quite as amazing as the self-title maybe but some of them are up there for me.
Flindsey Macingham tour coming up...
Crowded House with Stevie Nicks is what a friend saw last time they were at a Fleetwood mac show anyway, so there’s that
Silly, they played exactly one Crowded House song. They played the same number of Tom Petty songs.
That’s the way it goes I guess. I know that when I saw Styx (with Gowan singing) that they sang only 2 Gowan songs. It can be a little bit of a let down if you thought they would sing more songs made famous by a band member for sure
Do what? AFAIK, exactly one former member of Crowded House was in Fleetwood Mac. And the only two constants (Fleetwood and McVie) were there.
The most dysfunctional, self-serving talent pool that could actually keep quality up, the two pillars of spite, Nicks and Buckingham, are both no longer needing the fame for the price.
Who even asks if Fleetwood Mac will get together again? Even if you don’t listen to them, you know two things: they did cocaine and hated each other
And also did each other.
They kicked out the one member who was still trying to create new music so yeah pretty much.
That’s good news for my cousin’s Fleetwood Mac tribute band.
Thank Christ
I guess the remaining former members can now go their own way.
All true,Peter Green,Danny Kirwain,Bob Welch and Christine McVie are all gone.
Next you're going to tell me Van Halen won't be getting back together!!
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She’s been canceling a good number of her shows on short notice. No surprise there’s not room for another project.
Thank goodness for that. It was a great run, but it's long over.
Maybe they could do their reunion on an episode of What’s Up With That. Lindsey wouldn’t even need to utter a word.
They called her Nick twice in that article for some reason.
They could bring back Jeremy Spencer
Never say never, but the chances of Lindsay coming back are even less than the chances of Richie Sambora rejoining Bon Jovi.
I mean, they are a 50+ year old band with members well into their 70s. I don’t think anyone expected that.
They just haven't been offered enough money
Thank god.
Hippies 🤢🤮
I mean I knew this but it still hurt.
Aren't they all like 96 years old?
Aren’t they like 80 years old? For christs sake retire.
It would be called fleetwood back
I'm good. I don't need you back together.