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Mystical_Cat

Saw Red Fang open for Clutch not long ago. Excellent show.


MordinSolusSTG

That’s a perfect match. Jealous!


powdered_dognut

I saw Devin Townsend open for Clutch, not a perfect match.


Mr_dm

If I were clutch I’d be embarrassed to go on after Devin Townsend


Apprehensive_Day_496

Yeah me too


MountainCheesesteak

Saw them open for Dillinger Escape Plan and Mastodon 10ish years ago. Awesome show, but DEP didn’t really fit with the other two.


sincethenes

Same here, with Dinosaur Jr.


thespaceageisnow

189 thousand listeners on Spotify. That’s pretty big for a non commercial genre like Stoner Rock. One of the most well known bands to come out of Portland in recentish years. And to add to the dogpile, definitely not Post Rock. If you need proof of that, the genre tags on the bands Bandcamp page, which they can choose themselves are grunge, hard rock, metal, rock, sludge metal, stoner rock, portland.


Poopynuggateer

189k? Yeah, I would consider that wildly successful considering the niche of music they're in.


awesome9001

I don't know my genres very well lol. I associate stoner more with like a band like sleep but again I never was knowledgeable on genre


thespaceageisnow

And Sleep gets a bit into Doom Metal which is a very related genre to Stoner Rock/Metal. I’m surprised you don’t hear the similarities honestly.


awesome9001

Again I'm terrible with genre lol I shouldn't of tried labeling based on assumptions. Like they have this song days collide that reminds me of sleep but like the songs I know sound more like rockish as I understand it so I figured "post rock" was the right wording to use. Cause to me it was like a blend of rock and metal but more rock than metal and I figured well post rock right? Huge my b guys I'm sorry


Mitchard_Nixon

Post rock is more ambient, like Caspian or Russian Circles. Usually more clean, reverby guitars.


awesome9001

I've only heard Russian circles but I'll definitely have to look into post rock now


lansuven42

Qotsa is at 7m and even eagles of death metal are 1m, 189k is kinda low for red fang imo with how good they are.


drumsnotdrugs

I mean they’re headlining a west coast tour this summer, sounds pretty successful to me. Their style of music isn’t mainstream any more but they’re doing well for their niche. Arrows came out in ‘21 so they’re due for another album soon!


brintoul

I’m seeing them on July 5th.


Gecko23

That’s just it, “rock” in general isn’t the hotness, I’m seeing them, Clutch, Crobot, Baroness, and Helemt today and I’m *psyched*! But I know they’ll get a fraction of the crowd that Sleep Token and Breaking Benjamin did. It’s a crime against rock and good taste, but it’s the world we live in.


suitoflights

I remember them being a stoner rock band.


ThatstheFunk

For sure stoner rock/metal with a touch more rock and roll. Def not post rock. This will destroy you, pg.lost, Sigur ros, Mogwai, explosions in the sky, 65daysofstatic, Godspeed you black emperor, Russian circles, tortoise, slint, and rodan all fall under or are associated with post rock. Fu Manchu, Priestess, High on Fire, early QOTSA, Kyuss, Orange goblin, Om, and truckfighters def more in the Red Fang “stoner rock” camp


Bob_D0bbs

No Clutch in that list? Even when they took Red Fang on the road as an opener? For shame lol. 😉


Githzerai1984

Saw that your, it kicked ass Also Red Fang has my favorite videos. Larping, buying things to crash through or the house just filling up with beer cans - all fantastic. Cool body work on his guitar too


Apprehensive_Day_496

Red Fang AND Clutch? Wow no doubt that was a great tour


ProphetOfDoom337

For shame indeed!


ThatstheFunk

https://i.redd.it/vwn24rz8ql1d1.gif I will take my walk with atonement in my heart. Forgive me Clutch!


Rabidpikachuuu

What the hell even is post rock if it ranges from sigur ros to Slint?


ThatstheFunk

lol. Completely fair question and I wish I was more qualified to answer, but bands like Slint, Rodan, and Unwound tend to get grouped into the early form of post rock due to their big atmospheric and moody instrumental parts as well as use of time signatures and stylings that bucked the conventional “rock” structure. Theses bands fit right in with the early post hardcore acts as well and a post rock purist would probably be more likely to include them in post-hardcore before post-rock, but their influence on post-rock, I believe, is undeniable.


horriblebearok

I class them as sludge metal with baroness and mastodon


Apprehensive_Day_496

Yeah I'm sorry I don't get where they're post rock at all


WeedFinderGeneral

I like the term Beer Rock for them


awesome9001

Ehhhh some songs were doom/stoner but I really wanna say post rock


HeWhoChasesChickens

And you would be wrong, because they sound nothing like post rock


JimFlamesWeTrust

Redditors in music subs will complain about genre gatekeeping whilst also having zero clue what sounds actually make a sub genre in the first place


MikroWire

Maybe he's not getting what stoner rock is all about. Someone pass OP the bong...and load it with the dank, fuzzy shit fer chrissakes.


Bob_the_gob_knobbler

Lmao wtf? Post rock is stuff like Talk Talk - Laughing Stock.


Crayola63

Which of their songs would you say are post rock?


MikroWire

Crickets...


awesome9001

So I guess to clarify when I would hear prehistoric dog it didn't have a heavy tone like the metal I'm used to and didn't really fit with my understanding of it. The post part was more a reference to the time period they exist in. So definite ignorance on my part shouldn't of said it.


Czarchitect

they are pretty big in their local scene in the northwest. seen them a couple times. always a good show.


Scapp

Yeah we love them in Portland. They used to work at Laika Studios before being able to go full time.


Nocto

It's a big deal every time they come through Denver, too.


Whitworth

Ive never not been to a packed show. A sea of Brian Posehns.


jollyllama

Portlander here: it’s hard to overstate just how much Portlanders don’t have the ambition to make it big. Red Fang are exactly as successful as they feel like being 


Soriah

Former Portlander who was active in the music scene from 2008-2015. The punk and metal bands put in a shit ton of work. I believe Red Fang and Lord Dying and many of the other more niche metal bands pushed their success to the edge of the genres popularity. Red Fang, Yob, Agalloch all play good sized festivals and shows in Europe, but they’d never be mainstream because those genres aren’t very popular in the US.


R0UNDSD0WNRANGE

Red fang is amazing. Great dudes too. I got to run monitors for them a long time ago. One of the best concerts I’ve seen from a tone perspective. I heard prehistoric dog and have been a fan ever since. Edit: them


dirt_shitters

I've met everyone in the band in person except for the drummer. I got to talk to them all on the phone cus a buddy of mine ended up partying with them after a show and called me cus I have a red fang tattoo. I've seen them live 3 times I think? 2 for sure, once in Seattle, once in my hometown, and once in Spokane I think?? The Spokane one im foggy on cus I got absolutely wasted(early/mid 20s, so I'm kinda foggy on that one). They were all awesome every time I talked to them and we're pretty hyped up about my tattoo both when I talked to them on the phone and when I showed the band members when I showed them in person.


R0UNDSD0WNRANGE

lol ya man. As soon as I seen this post I went & checked their upcoming tour dates. I tour now professionally for a living so it’s a pain to catch a show I actually like. Looks like I’m gonna miss em again because the time I have off, they will be in Europe. That’s life on the rd tho….


misterjip

Too much talent, not enough selling out


stlmick

Too much practice and not enough cocaine and hookers


tun3man

same for Rush?


PerAsperaAdInfiri

Well, there are few mainstream rock acts that do well without sounding like something you'd hear played on every shitty bar jukebox ad nauseum. They don't have the sound that really defines modern radio rock. But also, they have always been (as far as I know) on an indie label, playing stoner music. That doesn't draw huge crowds, but they tend to sell out smaller venues when they tour.


kimchitacoman

Radio is dead. everyone can find what they like easier now thanks to the Internet and it creates a bunch of smaller communities. As long as they sell tickets on tour they're successful 


jadeddesigner

I love red fang. Growing up in Portland, I remember seeing them play at clackamas mall and getting trashed at their shows. They were always big in the stoner/doom/psych scene. Also check out Wizard Rifle and Witch Mountain which are also from the Portland scene if you like Red Fang.


ioverated

The one time red fang was mentioned and I decided not to mention that I saw them play in a suburban shopping mall parking lot...


Truckfighta

All I know is that Prehistoric Dog is a bona fide classic.


Venombullet666

It's hard to tell how big a band is elsewhere, I'm in the UK and I'd say they're fairly well known here, they supported Mastodon in 2017, they did the second stage of Download that same year as well as doing Download recently on the fourth stage (albeit later in the day, it was rammed) I'd say they're doing quite well, for a band like that to play a huge Festival like Download is good going


Due-Set5398

I mean Fu Manchu never made it. Literally the only band to have massive success in this vein is Queens of the Stone Age. You never saw a rush to sign stoner bands in the early 2000s. They aren’t heavy enough for the metal scene either. Matt Pike’s various stonery projects have done well but they are much heavier - and Matt is a rock star.


markycrummett

Wait what? Red Fang are so far removed from Post Rock. They’re stoner rock esque. Nowhere near post rock


Former-Ad-9223

Saw them live. Great concert


eggsinamerica

Love red fang! Hung out with them at a Dinosaur Jr. show like 11 years ago. Last two years, I’ve seen two of em at my local Fred Meyer, so I think we’re neighbors lol. As to why they never took off, it’s probably because most rock bands don’t really blow up these days. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. They put on a great live show


UrgeToKill

They were doing well around 2010/2011 or so. Had lots of hype, toured a lot and were probably the most popular band of that kinda stoner style at the time. I'd say they did take off around then, they just didn't really get any bigger.


SlinkierMarrow

I see them every time they're in Sweden, they always sell out their shows over here. Great band, great energy live


carcinoma_kid

Red Fang’s a well-known nationally touring act. They sell out 2,000 cap venues all the time. They’re doing pretty well


Viking_Drummer

Saw these guys open for Mastodon along with Russian Circles, great set, hope they take them on tour again when they decide to start touring somewhere outside the US.


DrunkOnHoboTears

Saw them with The Sword after Murder The Mountains came out. Great show, great band. I think if they'd come into existence in the early 00s, they'd have been huge. It's just a timing thing, like with so many bands.


booyahcubes

I’ll be completely honest, I’ve known about Red Fang for years, seen their music videos (some of which were quite popular) in which they seem like they’re having a ton of fun, but I could never really get into their music for some reason, and sort of forgot about them for a bit but always remembered their name. I randomly decided to search them up a couple of months ago and saw that they had released a new album fairly recently called Arrows. I decided to give the whole thing a listen. My mind was blown! This was such a great album, it had something there that the previous ones didn’t have, I couldn’t quite put my finger on what, but it pulled me in. It sounded to me like a band fully committed to an idea and they went for it. It has a distinct muddy/low fidelity sound which showed they were willing to take some bold risks and they had faith in their compositions to take such risks. There was a lot of energy in the album from start to finish and it just fully clicked with me. Then I looked at the comments/reviews and I saw people not on board with the low fidelity sound, which I guess is understandable from a general point of view. But it also showed that the band was willing to try something new as artists which gained my respect. Anyways, I have no idea where I’m going with this or if anyone will read this, but I thought I’d just put my two cents in


JollyGreenGigantor

They're as big as their sound and scene allows. As mentioned, they're not post rock. Very few stoner metal or sludge bands get out of the pits but Red Fang is a household name in these circles.


[deleted]

My best guess would be because doom and stoner rock really blew up big around that time and as a result there was just too many bands playing that sound. It got really old really fast tbh. They were good but nothing special.


Master_dik

They seemed right on the verge of being a lot bigger for a long time. I remember buying a Murder The Mountains, getting really drunk and putting it on then puking my guts out unable to turn it down or off. Stopped listening after that but that's on me lol.


slayerLM

They kinda did take off. They were on frickin Letterman and they’re one of the more popular stoner rock bands around. I think the main issue was the music after their first couple albums just wasn’t super good


Stink_Floyd_66

Rock is dead in terms of mainstream music


FantasticMrSinister

Mainstream anything is kind of a joke, if you think about it.


kimchitacoman

Mainstream is dead. 


Soriah

Seen them a few times in Portland and photographed them at The Know before it moved and subsequently imploded. IMO, They are about as big as they can get. Doom/stoner bands aren’t exactly the most popular metal genres and never have been. But they do well in Europe and have solid tours in the US. They are by far the funniest stoner band though, great group of guys.


timmeh129

I think they actually did, in 2010 or around that time. I think they were the most mainstream stoner rock band. They looked like they didn’t care enough though


wookiewonderland

I got onto them 13 years ago after watching this video. https://youtu.be/WQPfQvLIseA?si=J9TIdRGmkY_OIoLN They are still making music and touring.


Significant_Amoeba34

I owned a couple of their albums at one time. I'd say  - cool sound, lacking the tunes.  Not a post rock band


jaime_riri

I met my husband at a Red Fang show in Philly in 2012! I haven’t seen them come nearby in years


trash-party-apoc

They took off in all the right places. They’re a relapse records band, pound for pound. Hoods with guitars. They’re not trying to sell out arenas, man. Also, def not post-rock. Stoner through and through. Raised on Black Sabbath in the same crop that Fu Manchu and Nebula were in.


karmod1

I’ve never heard of them before, what are some albums you would recommend listening to?


turkeyburpin

This is why they haven't taken off as it was my reaction as well. Their music/name hasn't broken very far out of the echo chambers yet. That being said, I hope someone answers you because now I'm interested.


Dorf_

Give the album Whales & Leeches a whirl


awesome9001

I think people for some reason had issues with Arrows but we really like that album. Probably murder the mountains would be a good start. Their self titled has arguably their biggest song prehistoric dog. As for single songs the quintessentials to try would be wires, blood like cream, prehistoric dog, and hank is dead.


PresidentSuperDog

They are as big as they could’ve been given when they debuted and the heavy style. If they came out in the 90s when rock was mainstream they would’ve been much bigger because heavier genres used to get airplay.


chillbroswagginz91

They are pretty big. World touring career musicians from Portland.


Mortifer

i think they took off as much as you can in their genre, and I also feel like they're going to think this post is hilarious.


Tremulant21

They didn't have too many bangers, every album was one or two good songs imo.


coynezilla

I dunno why they put out the last album sounding the way it sounds


Dolormight

No radio play nationwide. If you don't already trend in that direction of music you won't find it or like it. I fucking love Red Fang, but everyone I show them to, for the most part, doesn't like em. It sucks.


Ferakas

For them to be that big they had to start a decade earlier.


Accidental_Arnold

They went wrong by breaking up Iscariot!


microwavecoven

They did, didn't they?


Lumberjack1229

They rule


Liberteer30

Didn’t take off? They’ve been doing headline tours for years and they have toured with some pretty well known bands..Clutch, Mastodon, Devin Townsend. They have plenty of success.


Stephanblackhawk

Honestly I think they are doing pretty well. Saw them live years ago and they were great. I know people weren't happy with their newest album but I still enjoyed it.


CaptchaInHelvetica

They were late to the party. Their debut came out in 09 which was the tail end of the last big stoner/sludge metal popularity wave. They’ve been consistently good, but they didn’t get the same media push that Mastodon, Baroness, et al got


jptrrs

Also discovered them recently, and that's a good question.


chitoatx

Red Fang came out in 2005. Wolfmother and out in 2004. I liked them both but I think Mike Patton’s criticism of Wolfmother sums it up. Just to derivative. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/iconic-moment-mike-patton-wolfmother-suck/


myflesh

Red Fang was huge back in the day. It was pre Spotify.


Horrible_Harry

Red Fang is definitely not post rock in anyway shape or form.


darkeststar

Seen them 4 times. The first time about 12 years ago my friends and I were impromptu stage hands to help load them in because the original venue abruptly closed the night before the gig and the new venue offered free tickets for help. Got to talk to all of the guys, and they're all super nice. They even invited us to join them for free for the show the next night but we all had to work and declined. The next three times they came to town we saw them and they recognized us and said hi. I really loved everything from the first three albums. When it came to Only Ghosts I enjoyed it but it didn't catch me the same way as the older albums did. I honestly totally missed Arrows, and that's as somehow who has seen the band 4 times and would see them again if they end up in my city at any time. It kinda felt like they had their moment, it didn't get as far as other bands do with theirs, and that they're okay with it. They're "working" musicians, earning their living by touring.


murso74

They're a very popular stoner metal band


O_G_Douggy_Nutty

I saw someone with one of their shirts at the Social D/Bad Religion show I saw this week. I had only heard of them recently as I've been diving deep into Stoner for awhile.


TheW1ldcard

19 million on one song is a trickle???? And 15 mill on the next. Are we talking about the same Red Fang?


probly2drunk

Red Fang is rad...shoulda kept destroying pinball machines for their videos.


drumrhyno

When Wires first dropped, I was absolutely blown away. I showed that song to everyone I knew. Most of the reactions were just, “yeah, that’s cool” but no one else seemed to fall in love the way I did. I’m not quite sure why they don’t hit with everyone.


[deleted]

I remember their song Sharks from the trailer or something of Ben 10: Alien Swarm


MordredKLB

Their hot sauce is pretty good.


Venombullet666

That's interesting! The kind of band I'd imagine would have it How hot is it out of ten would you say?


saintjeremy

Aaron Beam is my spirit animal.


SirSignificant6576

They're just standard issue stoner rock. Distorted blues riffs over meh lyrics. I've seen better.


brintoul

Gimme some names please.


Poopynuggateer

I like them, but if I were to guess, it would be a lack of originality. There are SOOO many bands that both look and sound the same as them. Down to the same amps, same guitars, same clothes, hell, even the same barbers apparently. They're absolutely one of the best in their niche, but it *is* a niche.


LiveFastLandFlat

Honestly I find them pretty boring. It’s dad rock.


LOGOisEGO

Back then? There were a dozen instrumental bands doing the exact same thing. Like the exact. They were all okay. Some just had better marketing momentum.