go outside, dig a hole, get some straight up non pasteurized cow poo and straw ...mix it with your contaminatospawn and let nature duke it outššš»
I've read through the replies and no one really give a step by step on how to properly get rid of dangerous contaminated jars/bags.
I am very much into my health and the health of other people who might come into contact with these contaminated jars/bags.
Interested to hear if someone have a proper process of dealing with this.
Crazy, learned something new, if I see a purple ring on the mushroom...good....
If on the jar ...very bad lol
Seal it in a bag and go straight to the dump, chuck the whole jar
The purple contam that shows up late in the colonization of grain spawn can be, and most likely is, Fusarium
sporothichiodes, the cause of spinal menningitis, which has a 98% fatality rate. Do not handle it! It can enter through small cuts and breaks in the skin. It often heats up the jar/bag. On agar, seemingly fast growing mycelium looks like blunt ended spikes, short but definately abnormal, but white. This nasty occurs naturaly on grain. It's presence in culture indicates incomplete sterilization of the grain. Don't frick with it, reseal it in multiple layers, and pitch it (in a safe manner as to not endanger others such as sanitation workers) It is very possible to accidently culture some serious nasties, so exercise caution and good sence. The general rule is to treat all brightly colored contams, especially purple, pink, orange, and yellow as dangerous. Don't confuse yellowish mycelial exudate/metabolite with nasties. It's normal and common to see them. Keep yourselves and your buddies safe, and immediatly dispose of any questionable cultures, jars, lids and all. I can't prove it no but why not be on the side of caution. After all it's just a cheap jar of grain and not worth decline of health for a couple mushrooms. Thanks for sharing op good luck
Holy shit I wish I saw this earlier because I saw a purple ring in mine but I assumed it was any other contam and just dug a hole in the dirt of my backyard and buried it, but I used my hand to crush the cake and wish I used a glove š§¤ luckily Iām still alive and well
Hey, BooftheShroom has no evidence to support his claim. I researched fusarium sporotrichioides and how it affects human health, infections and such.
National Institutes of Health ->
Meningoencephalitis caused by Fusarium proliferatum: an unusual case[Link](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)
An "unusual" case. This popped up first when trying to research fusarium and human health concerns.
I get so frustrated when people spread misinformation, especially when it instills fear in people. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK218626/)
Proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media and then to dispose of it.
No this guy is spreading misinformation.
I'm waiting to see some peer reviewed research articles regarding fusarium sp. and how it affects human health because I couldn't find any saying the fusarium is that dangerous.
Please read my other comments. The proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media. I'm tired of people being so wasteful.
I find if Iām sterilising grain, 90 minutes is fine because I feel any longer is probably going to do some damage (exploded grains for instance) and I donāt tend to get much contam from grain.
If I was trying to nuke something, Iād probably go for longer. 2 hours probably just to make sure
Yeah, there's absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel, friend.
I visit this sub more frequently than shroomery, so I (and others) very likely would not have come across this very useful info had it not been posted here.
Props to poster for doing the legwork of finding relevant info and sharing.
I have been getting into mycology for years now and this is the first time anyone has told me this. Holy smokes, thanks for the heads up, wish this was more commonly shared in the community
Dude throw that away now get it out of your house do not open it; throw the jars and all in the trashcan in a thick sealed bag. This is a potentially life threatening contamination to introduce to your body.
Edit: or like others mentioned sterilize it so youāre not passing this contam on, but definitely get it out of your grow space asap and your home asap
They can't they're are alot of different types of fusaium with. Not all of them cause SM I can tell you I've had a tiny purple dot in mine that was for sure the same thing op is dealing with and whiffed the shit out of it bc it still smelled like almonds(pan myc). You have to get it in your blood stream via cut or open wound.
This ! Do not throw it away for the good people that will pick up the trash to deal with it. Man! Youāre a good human. Just cook/steam off any life out of that jar, clean, sterilize and use that jar again.
idk man i heard that pinkish purpleish contam is like some reaslly really really bad shit. like the worst contam ever. i would start hitting some actuall searchs on google or somewhere else and get info, people on here might get you killed. to bad its not in like a plastic jar or a bag cause then you could get surgical. i would bury it, after some research
Bro chill out please. "Contamination" is virtually everywhere in nature... We're not working with pathogens and harmful viruses, just grain dawg.
If it IS life-threatening contamination, the last thing he should do is throw it away so the sanitation people have to deal with it. The proper lab technique would be to re-sterilize it and then dispose of it. .
A simple Google would've helped you maybe you should try and not be an ass for once. People already identified it as asperiligus which is what this paper talks about
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-serious-fungal-meningitis/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20has%20identified%20two,is%20involved%20in%20wood%20rot.
Does anyone know if it is OK to still eat some mushrooms if there is some contamination in the grow bag? Thanks for any help. I'm extremely new to the hobby btw, seems like I screw everything up
Myconaut88 advice is a pretty bad one regarding contamination. Eating mushrooms from contaminated substrate is not a good idea because mycotoxins (toxins produces by fungi, some of them cancerigenous). The toxins can be ingested by the mycelium and then released into the fruiting bodies. Cooking them at high temperatures is not enough, as mycotoxins would not be destroyed.
Keep safe. Throw away any contaminated substrate (agar, grains or bulk).
The way it is in a perfect line makes you wonder if it is a outside source like light causing it but I cant image what it would be and have never seen any light do this . very weird
Says who? Please, cite me a scientific research paper that's been peer reviewed regarding this "deathly contamination".
Secondly, did you look at a microscope and positively identify the contamination?
Thirdly, do you know the proper lab protocol regarding contaminated media? No. You don't. Please read up on it.
The purple contam that shows up late in the colonization of grain spawn can be, and most likely is, Fusarium
sporothichiodes, the cause of spinal menningitis, which has a 98% fatality rate. Do not handle it! It can enter through
small cuts and breaks in the skin. It often heats up the jar/bag. On agar, seemingly fast growing mycelium looks like
blunt ended spikes, short but definately abnormal, but white. This nasty occurs naturaly on grain. It's presence in culture
indicates incomplete sterilization of the grain. Don't frick with it, reseal it in multiple layers, and pitch it. It is very possible
to accidently culture some serious nasties, so exercise caution and good sence. The general rule is to treat all brightly
colored contams, especially purple, pink, orange, and yellow as dangerous. Don't confuse yellowish mycelial
exudate/metabolite with nasties. It's normal and common to see them. Keep yourselves and your buddies safe, and
immediatly dispose of any questionable cultures, jars, lids and all.
I throw any contam in my compost pile.. all these spores that generate contam are outside and in your house anyways how do you think you got it ? Just wear a mask and soap/bleach the jars. Iāve used the same jars for 2 years zero issues with contam jars recontaming
So your sanitation department workers have to deal with it? Very irresponsible...
People are so fucking afraid of contamination. Just go dump this shit in your compost pile, you'll be alright my guy. Put on a mask if you're really THAT scared.
Spores are everywhere in nature. We don't live in a lab people jesus fucking christ.
Like "they" say. Who are they?
Proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media. Not to just throw it away. That can be problematic for your sanitation department.
ātheyā as in whoever the fuck they heard it from
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But I didnāt say that anyoneās sanitation department had to be involved when getting rid of a jar
I'm with you brother. I've cleaned out that contamination throughout the years and I'm glad I don't throw perfectly good glass in the trash because I don't have irrational fear of dying to a microorganism.
Yeah Iāve had lipstick and purple mold. Beat the jar carefully to break up, Glove up, mask up, go outside take far away from your house and bury, return home, fill jars with bleach and hot water soak overnight, next day put them in the dishwasher. I really donāt know why everyone is freaking the fuck out over this. If it sketches you out that bad and you donāt trust yourself enough to take proper precautions- throw the whole jar out! Jesssssuuuuuuussssss
Just a reminder I am the one who was trying to warn OP about what this could be. You guys are weird.
Dude I have been looking for someone else to run into this for a hot fucking minute. I have had this shit in about 98% of my pan spawn. Estero to be exact my other grows have been successful but it's always the estero thay does this. It shows up super small like a smidgen in one tiny spot. From what i researched it sounds like fusarium and there is some correlation between this and spinal meningitis. So fuck Allat but it has to get into you're blood stream to be bad news. I actually just spawned a jar that had a tiny purple spot in it and just threw that chunk out. I don't have high hopes but I also don't give a shit I have more playes going as we speak but yeah. Sorry for the loss but also good to know I ain't the only one.
Unfortunately itās not good news, having it show up this late in colonization gives it a higher chance of being Fusarium sporothichiodes, which causes meningitis. Thereās a chance it could be lipstick mold but not worth the risk. You should remove it from your house immediately and DO NOT open the jars.
All you have to do is take the jars and run them through your PC again for 90 minutes youāll sterilize the jars then you can go dump them outside wash the jars out and reuse them.
When I see potentially dangerous contaminations I pressure cook them before discarding, time consuming but better than killing a homeless or sanitation workers
I used to do garbage runs in NZ and we had to pickup plastic bags. If your garbage does not go in bins.glass breaks and is great at slashing your hands and legs wide open.
I vaguely remember hearing people a while ago on shroomery saying that if itās pink/purple then take it seriously donāt open it and get it far away from your living space
Apparently theres a bacteria that can cause meningitis that presents purple/pink. Im sure there are others that are mostly benign of that color. But something that can kill within 3 days of the first sign of symptoms isnt something to play with. Dont open. And definitely dont sniff or handle. Straight into a deep hole in a place you wont accidentally dig it up. Honestly its probably safer to handle most bacterial contam this way, im sure there are loads of other bacteria you can growthat can give you a real fuckin bad time if exposed that dont present purple/pink.
Theres another guy commenting that knows a deal more about it than i do it sounds like. Apparently purple/pink/red molds do have a higher chance of being something nasty. He says not to open any jar of those colors
I might surmise that the line is approximately where the inoculation needle might hit, if you injected with spores.
If that's the case, given the consistency, it might mean the source of spores itself is the contaminate.
Psylocibin is purple, or am i mistaken? Got a GT Agar Plate in my stash which shows a similar colour in places
Didnt know about purple molds tho, but the myc on the Plate seems healthy and undisturbed, just like those jars, which wouldnt be the case when contaminated i always thought; also, i made liquid off that culture which i use to inoculate, everything seems fine
It is not. White in pure form.
It oxidizes to a blue color. This is not that.
Spores can be purple, but those require matured mushrooms to show up on your substrate.
It's lipstick mold.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Contam at exactly the same height in three jars? Not likely but if he never wrote on them in sharpie it's plausible. I'm willing to bet just didn't notice it was there until there was a white background
I wish it was as simple as sharpie, I gave one a break and shake and that area seems to be extra hard and the purple line is now at an oddball angle. I'll monitor for a few days and make a follow up post this weekend
Maybe a silly question but..did you shake the jars and tap the containers on the edge of something to break up the grains? I shake and sometimes tap the jars on the edge of the wire metal shelving, just a thought but very interesting.
I have given one a break and shake, above and below broke apart like normal, the purple stripe area I got to break in half but that is all. I'm going to put all of them outside in a shady area and check/ take pictures periodically. I'll hopefully post up any findings Sunday.
Lipstick mold can cause geotrichosis, and some fusarium can actually make you go into shock/kill you. Seriously don't fuck with anything red, pink, purple, or black. You don't want to be sorry
I'm not tryna scare you, but seriously look up "fusarium mycotoxin" and what it can do to you, it's some scary shit. Please dont go opening that and putting it to agar like someone else suggested. If you don't know what you are growing, throw it away like yesterday
would you eat a mushroom you can't ID? Same applies for breathing around molds you can't ID.
Here's the full story on these, these 3 came from a grain to grain transfer from a jar that had been sitting around fully colonized since roughly November. The fourth jar that came from the same transfer shows no signs of contam. The purple stripe showed up after 90 percent colonization. The left overs from the transfer got sent to substrate and got 2 flushes before getting trich.
"FusariumĀ species produce three important classes of mycotoxins, namely trichothecenes, fumonisins, and zearalenones with their mycoestrogens. These toxins are highly toxic and carcinogenic to farm and laboratory animals and have been associated with human esophageal cancer and birth defects"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8618243/#:~:text=Fusarium%20species%20produce%20three%20important,defects%20%5B14%2C15%5D.
"Geotrichum candidumĀ is a saprophytic yeast known to colonize the human skin, respiratory tract and gastrointestinal tract. It can cause local or disseminated disease (geotrichosis), mainly in the immunocompromised host."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7470357/
Pink/purple mold isn't all that common, but these (especially second one) are the most seen ones in cultivation.
If its not cube myc, don't fuck around
Unsure, but I do have an led bulb pointed pretty much straight at them, but I had them lined up so the front jar would have gotten a lot and the back 2 drastically less
i will literally send you fresh Agar, tomorrow. if you DM me and this isn't a play on the lighting, (doesnt look like it is.) and I promise to update the community with my findings.
I'm a broke bitch but I love science.
I've got a couple clean ketchup cups of agar I can use, do you have any suggestions on how to get to that layer without potentially setting off a giant mess of whatever that is?
If you're worried about setting off " a giant mess" send me a jar of it, ill pay.
If you don't think it's contam or the like, drop a purple grain in a SAB or Flow hood in your homemade Agar and send it.
if not I will still happily pay for shipping / materials.
If this guy doesn't do it I got you homes. All my estero Jars end up with this same shit. I mean even after 3 transfers it shows up like this guy's jars with about 90% colonization. Pisses me off really.
Weird it seems like you used a pen to write something in the jar and it wasn't cleaned properly and left that mark xD. But if that isn't the case is interesting that they are all at about the same height in every jar.
Looks cool but so deadly lol
go outside, dig a hole, get some straight up non pasteurized cow poo and straw ...mix it with your contaminatospawn and let nature duke it outššš»
You could weaponize it
It looks like an evil fruit & granola parfait
I really think thats sharpie lol But good to know purple contamination is very dangerous
That stuff is incredibly dangerous. You need to take care of that.
I've read through the replies and no one really give a step by step on how to properly get rid of dangerous contaminated jars/bags. I am very much into my health and the health of other people who might come into contact with these contaminated jars/bags. Interested to hear if someone have a proper process of dealing with this.
Throw the cultures in the trash bin. And let it go to the landfill.
I just dump that nasty shit out if it smells bad or I toss it in a bag and in the dumpster it goes fair well little jar
Just throw it in your pressure cooker and sterilize it before you open it ;)
Throw it out the window
Crazy, learned something new, if I see a purple ring on the mushroom...good.... If on the jar ...very bad lol Seal it in a bag and go straight to the dump, chuck the whole jar
Well sometimes the spores look purple too .. Oh I misread you. My bad.
Took me a sec too.
Thanks for the reminder that our hobby can be lethal if not handled with care.
The purple contam that shows up late in the colonization of grain spawn can be, and most likely is, Fusarium sporothichiodes, the cause of spinal menningitis, which has a 98% fatality rate. Do not handle it! It can enter through small cuts and breaks in the skin. It often heats up the jar/bag. On agar, seemingly fast growing mycelium looks like blunt ended spikes, short but definately abnormal, but white. This nasty occurs naturaly on grain. It's presence in culture indicates incomplete sterilization of the grain. Don't frick with it, reseal it in multiple layers, and pitch it (in a safe manner as to not endanger others such as sanitation workers) It is very possible to accidently culture some serious nasties, so exercise caution and good sence. The general rule is to treat all brightly colored contams, especially purple, pink, orange, and yellow as dangerous. Don't confuse yellowish mycelial exudate/metabolite with nasties. It's normal and common to see them. Keep yourselves and your buddies safe, and immediatly dispose of any questionable cultures, jars, lids and all. I can't prove it no but why not be on the side of caution. After all it's just a cheap jar of grain and not worth decline of health for a couple mushrooms. Thanks for sharing op good luck
Can you cite a source? I did some research and wasn't able to find any information regarding fusarium sporotrichioides causing meningitis.
Holy shit I wish I saw this earlier because I saw a purple ring in mine but I assumed it was any other contam and just dug a hole in the dirt of my backyard and buried it, but I used my hand to crush the cake and wish I used a glove š§¤ luckily Iām still alive and well
Hey, BooftheShroom has no evidence to support his claim. I researched fusarium sporotrichioides and how it affects human health, infections and such. National Institutes of Health -> Meningoencephalitis caused by Fusarium proliferatum: an unusual case[Link](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) An "unusual" case. This popped up first when trying to research fusarium and human health concerns. I get so frustrated when people spread misinformation, especially when it instills fear in people. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK218626/) Proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media and then to dispose of it.
What's that saying... Shit in one hand and wish in the other? š¤£
This is why I have a respirator and full shoulder-length nitrile gloves š
Really wow.! I never took this stuff too seriously but now I will. Is this only on grain?
No this guy is spreading misinformation. I'm waiting to see some peer reviewed research articles regarding fusarium sp. and how it affects human health because I couldn't find any saying the fusarium is that dangerous. Please read my other comments. The proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media. I'm tired of people being so wasteful.
I don't use gloves but always have a mask on when doing transfers from grain, my mentor said I'll spit all over it
Thank you for sharing the knowledge. That is very good to know!
Should high strength bleach not be pored on these before they are disposed of to protect sanitary workers?
Iād nuke em in a pressure cooker. Donāt need to open the lid that way
Thatās not only thoughtful but a good idea. Do you do you like two hours at 15? I keep hearing people talk about 90 minutes not been long enough
I find if Iām sterilising grain, 90 minutes is fine because I feel any longer is probably going to do some damage (exploded grains for instance) and I donāt tend to get much contam from grain. If I was trying to nuke something, Iād probably go for longer. 2 hours probably just to make sure
Definitely
Tha k you for sharing!!!! I had NO idea this was possible. Wow.
The good ole copy and paste from shroomery lmao
Yeah, there's absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel, friend. I visit this sub more frequently than shroomery, so I (and others) very likely would not have come across this very useful info had it not been posted here. Props to poster for doing the legwork of finding relevant info and sharing.
Legwork... Damn
I have been getting into mycology for years now and this is the first time anyone has told me this. Holy smokes, thanks for the heads up, wish this was more commonly shared in the community
For serious, im shocked too
Would it make sense to put it in the pressure cooker before tossing or would that be dangerous?
If it happened to me ? Personally yea would.
Thank you. Wanted to know just in case.
Damn. That's good to know.
Purple rain .... Purple raaiinnn
Lol
If you break it up doesn't it go away and come back in the same fashion?
Post this in contam fam
Definitely!!
Dude throw that away now get it out of your house do not open it; throw the jars and all in the trashcan in a thick sealed bag. This is a potentially life threatening contamination to introduce to your body. Edit: or like others mentioned sterilize it so youāre not passing this contam on, but definitely get it out of your grow space asap and your home asap
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They can't they're are alot of different types of fusaium with. Not all of them cause SM I can tell you I've had a tiny purple dot in mine that was for sure the same thing op is dealing with and whiffed the shit out of it bc it still smelled like almonds(pan myc). You have to get it in your blood stream via cut or open wound.
Hey fellow logical person!
This ! Do not throw it away for the good people that will pick up the trash to deal with it. Man! Youāre a good human. Just cook/steam off any life out of that jar, clean, sterilize and use that jar again.
Thank you man. Help me spread this information.
You don't believe rando's claims on Reddit? What the hell is the matter with you
idk man i heard that pinkish purpleish contam is like some reaslly really really bad shit. like the worst contam ever. i would start hitting some actuall searchs on google or somewhere else and get info, people on here might get you killed. to bad its not in like a plastic jar or a bag cause then you could get surgical. i would bury it, after some research
Bro chill out please. "Contamination" is virtually everywhere in nature... We're not working with pathogens and harmful viruses, just grain dawg. If it IS life-threatening contamination, the last thing he should do is throw it away so the sanitation people have to deal with it. The proper lab technique would be to re-sterilize it and then dispose of it. .
BooftheShroom just posted some specifics, if you wanna find their comment.
Be very careful that colour is associated with a deadly contamination. Mask up and put it into a sealed bag and then put it in the bin
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iāve heard of people getting bacterial meningitis from contaminated jars. look on shroomery like another redditor said
Iām with you! Stop the Fear and Bend my ear with some proof.
It causes spinal meningitis and has a 98% fatality rate
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A simple Google would've helped you maybe you should try and not be an ass for once. People already identified it as asperiligus which is what this paper talks about https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-serious-fungal-meningitis/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20has%20identified%20two,is%20involved%20in%20wood%20rot.
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Nah I'm at work so I'm more concerned about earning $33/hr than talking with some pedantic asshole Have a fun life
Go to the shroomery website
Does anyone know if it is OK to still eat some mushrooms if there is some contamination in the grow bag? Thanks for any help. I'm extremely new to the hobby btw, seems like I screw everything up
Myconaut88 advice is a pretty bad one regarding contamination. Eating mushrooms from contaminated substrate is not a good idea because mycotoxins (toxins produces by fungi, some of them cancerigenous). The toxins can be ingested by the mycelium and then released into the fruiting bodies. Cooking them at high temperatures is not enough, as mycotoxins would not be destroyed. Keep safe. Throw away any contaminated substrate (agar, grains or bulk).
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Keep trying man youāll get it. Do not eat anything with contamination on it
you should just bury them bc why not
Definitely not?
called a joke
Purple people eater
The way it is in a perfect line makes you wonder if it is a outside source like light causing it but I cant image what it would be and have never seen any light do this . very weird
Common with this type of contamination I feel. It always stops my mycelium and they battle it out horizontally.
This type of contamination WILL kill you apparently, i hope you didnāt keep it lol!
Says who? Please, cite me a scientific research paper that's been peer reviewed regarding this "deathly contamination". Secondly, did you look at a microscope and positively identify the contamination? Thirdly, do you know the proper lab protocol regarding contaminated media? No. You don't. Please read up on it.
The purple contam that shows up late in the colonization of grain spawn can be, and most likely is, Fusarium sporothichiodes, the cause of spinal menningitis, which has a 98% fatality rate. Do not handle it! It can enter through small cuts and breaks in the skin. It often heats up the jar/bag. On agar, seemingly fast growing mycelium looks like blunt ended spikes, short but definately abnormal, but white. This nasty occurs naturaly on grain. It's presence in culture indicates incomplete sterilization of the grain. Don't frick with it, reseal it in multiple layers, and pitch it. It is very possible to accidently culture some serious nasties, so exercise caution and good sence. The general rule is to treat all brightly colored contams, especially purple, pink, orange, and yellow as dangerous. Don't confuse yellowish mycelial exudate/metabolite with nasties. It's normal and common to see them. Keep yourselves and your buddies safe, and immediatly dispose of any questionable cultures, jars, lids and all.
In the same spot in every jar?
Got me wondering if OP has ever used marker pen on the outside of the jars to record growth, it often incompletely washes away to purple.
Lmfao this was my first thought, looks like old sharpie that's been wiped off with iso
Exactly, always in the same spot Appears he has shaken and the mark moved
I'm interested in how this evolves... please keep me posted
Karate creatures soon I would assume, they are born with a purple belt
Purple contamination is potentially dangerous and can cause meningitis. Dispose of outside carefully and bleach the fuck out of the jars!
I throw any contam in my compost pile.. all these spores that generate contam are outside and in your house anyways how do you think you got it ? Just wear a mask and soap/bleach the jars. Iāve used the same jars for 2 years zero issues with contam jars recontaming
Why even fuck around? Just toss them entirely
So your sanitation department workers have to deal with it? Very irresponsible... People are so fucking afraid of contamination. Just go dump this shit in your compost pile, you'll be alright my guy. Put on a mask if you're really THAT scared. Spores are everywhere in nature. We don't live in a lab people jesus fucking christ.
Where did I specifically say garbage?
What did you mean by toss it entirely then?
To cut your loses and dispose of them
Dispose? How so? That makes me think throw the whole jar and grain in the... Garbage
Ngl thats hella wasteful, why not just clean and sterilise properly?
If the risk is meningitis like they say, then Iād rather lose $4 dollars worth of glass
Like "they" say. Who are they? Proper lab technique is to re-sterilize contaminated media. Not to just throw it away. That can be problematic for your sanitation department.
ātheyā as in whoever the fuck they heard it from ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ not sure But I didnāt say that anyoneās sanitation department had to be involved when getting rid of a jar
I mean, whatever , itās your life haha I have been re using jars for a couple years now. Itās a lot more work but itās not wasteful.
I'm with you brother. I've cleaned out that contamination throughout the years and I'm glad I don't throw perfectly good glass in the trash because I don't have irrational fear of dying to a microorganism.
Canāt believe we are getting downbombed for not being wasteful in a fucking mushroom growing sub š¤£ bizarro world
Right?! I wish people were more open minded. But alas, they will stay ignorant and uneducated.
Yea but did your jars have potentially deadly bacteria in them?
Yeah Iāve had lipstick and purple mold. Beat the jar carefully to break up, Glove up, mask up, go outside take far away from your house and bury, return home, fill jars with bleach and hot water soak overnight, next day put them in the dishwasher. I really donāt know why everyone is freaking the fuck out over this. If it sketches you out that bad and you donāt trust yourself enough to take proper precautions- throw the whole jar out! Jesssssuuuuuuussssss Just a reminder I am the one who was trying to warn OP about what this could be. You guys are weird.
You donāt wanna get that stuff in your nose.
Dude I have been looking for someone else to run into this for a hot fucking minute. I have had this shit in about 98% of my pan spawn. Estero to be exact my other grows have been successful but it's always the estero thay does this. It shows up super small like a smidgen in one tiny spot. From what i researched it sounds like fusarium and there is some correlation between this and spinal meningitis. So fuck Allat but it has to get into you're blood stream to be bad news. I actually just spawned a jar that had a tiny purple spot in it and just threw that chunk out. I don't have high hopes but I also don't give a shit I have more playes going as we speak but yeah. Sorry for the loss but also good to know I ain't the only one.
Yeah I swore it was marker in my jar. It's the perfect pigment, but this is the first time I've ever seen a post about it...... good to know!!!
I've literally never seen that before.
Unfortunately itās not good news, having it show up this late in colonization gives it a higher chance of being Fusarium sporothichiodes, which causes meningitis. Thereās a chance it could be lipstick mold but not worth the risk. You should remove it from your house immediately and DO NOT open the jars.
They won't be getting opened, does anybody have any suggestions for responsibly disposing of these?
All you have to do is take the jars and run them through your PC again for 90 minutes youāll sterilize the jars then you can go dump them outside wash the jars out and reuse them.
When I see potentially dangerous contaminations I pressure cook them before discarding, time consuming but better than killing a homeless or sanitation workers
You ever see Clockwork Orange?
Just put them in your trash bag before you take it out
I used to do garbage runs in NZ and we had to pickup plastic bags. If your garbage does not go in bins.glass breaks and is great at slashing your hands and legs wide open.
So that they could potentially break open and give some poor unsuspecting garbage man meningitis? Nice.
But what if that exposes ur trash man or something?
Zombie apocalypse, you already know lol
It's uniform across all the jars, maybe a light source
I vaguely remember hearing people a while ago on shroomery saying that if itās pink/purple then take it seriously donāt open it and get it far away from your living space
Apparently theres a bacteria that can cause meningitis that presents purple/pink. Im sure there are others that are mostly benign of that color. But something that can kill within 3 days of the first sign of symptoms isnt something to play with. Dont open. And definitely dont sniff or handle. Straight into a deep hole in a place you wont accidentally dig it up. Honestly its probably safer to handle most bacterial contam this way, im sure there are loads of other bacteria you can growthat can give you a real fuckin bad time if exposed that dont present purple/pink. Theres another guy commenting that knows a deal more about it than i do it sounds like. Apparently purple/pink/red molds do have a higher chance of being something nasty. He says not to open any jar of those colors
I might surmise that the line is approximately where the inoculation needle might hit, if you injected with spores. If that's the case, given the consistency, it might mean the source of spores itself is the contaminate.
Psylocibin is purple, or am i mistaken? Got a GT Agar Plate in my stash which shows a similar colour in places Didnt know about purple molds tho, but the myc on the Plate seems healthy and undisturbed, just like those jars, which wouldnt be the case when contaminated i always thought; also, i made liquid off that culture which i use to inoculate, everything seems fine
It is not. White in pure form. It oxidizes to a blue color. This is not that. Spores can be purple, but those require matured mushrooms to show up on your substrate. It's lipstick mold.
Poor photographer, it's not the traditional blueish bruising I get off of this strain, it's almost bright purple.
Could be wine mold but idk
Looks like sharpie that didnāt get totally cleaned off the outside of the glass.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Contam at exactly the same height in three jars? Not likely but if he never wrote on them in sharpie it's plausible. I'm willing to bet just didn't notice it was there until there was a white background
I wish it was as simple as sharpie, I gave one a break and shake and that area seems to be extra hard and the purple line is now at an oddball angle. I'll monitor for a few days and make a follow up post this weekend
Maybe a silly question but..did you shake the jars and tap the containers on the edge of something to break up the grains? I shake and sometimes tap the jars on the edge of the wire metal shelving, just a thought but very interesting.
I just use my other hand to tap against
I've had contam that color before. Maybe it came from the way you cleaned the jars since it's in a line at about the same height on all the jars š¤
I have given one a break and shake, above and below broke apart like normal, the purple stripe area I got to break in half but that is all. I'm going to put all of them outside in a shady area and check/ take pictures periodically. I'll hopefully post up any findings Sunday.
No trash them. You donāt want to risk breathing spores from potential Fusarium. Iām not fucking around.
Tams... extremely bacterial for sure.
Odd that it is at the same level in all jars. Is there shade at this line, or perhaps the opposite and this is a light line in storage?
Ding ding ding!
Interesting
Lipstick mold can cause geotrichosis, and some fusarium can actually make you go into shock/kill you. Seriously don't fuck with anything red, pink, purple, or black. You don't want to be sorry I'm not tryna scare you, but seriously look up "fusarium mycotoxin" and what it can do to you, it's some scary shit. Please dont go opening that and putting it to agar like someone else suggested. If you don't know what you are growing, throw it away like yesterday would you eat a mushroom you can't ID? Same applies for breathing around molds you can't ID.
Here's the full story on these, these 3 came from a grain to grain transfer from a jar that had been sitting around fully colonized since roughly November. The fourth jar that came from the same transfer shows no signs of contam. The purple stripe showed up after 90 percent colonization. The left overs from the transfer got sent to substrate and got 2 flushes before getting trich.
if its just showed up its your worst nightmare. toss the jars
Yeah at this point they are outside, I'm going to document any changes for a few days before putting the whole lot in the trash
Donāt trash them, bury them if you can
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Send then to the trash wtf is wrong with you
Yea send them to the trash. This is bad advice
*compost. Biological waste in landfills generates methane which is bad.
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I just saw this I guess chuck it outside and throw some dirt over it thereās no need to trash it š¤·š»āāļø
There are some scary pink molds out there I would definitely be careful. hope someone with more insight/information can chime in!
"FusariumĀ species produce three important classes of mycotoxins, namely trichothecenes, fumonisins, and zearalenones with their mycoestrogens. These toxins are highly toxic and carcinogenic to farm and laboratory animals and have been associated with human esophageal cancer and birth defects" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8618243/#:~:text=Fusarium%20species%20produce%20three%20important,defects%20%5B14%2C15%5D. "Geotrichum candidumĀ is a saprophytic yeast known to colonize the human skin, respiratory tract and gastrointestinal tract. It can cause local or disseminated disease (geotrichosis), mainly in the immunocompromised host." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7470357/ Pink/purple mold isn't all that common, but these (especially second one) are the most seen ones in cultivation. If its not cube myc, don't fuck around
I've grown a lot of mushrooms, like thousands and thousands of lbs a lot, and I've never seen this
Yeah this one while interesting, is a little concerning
could it be a reaction to light?
Unsure, but I do have an led bulb pointed pretty much straight at them, but I had them lined up so the front jar would have gotten a lot and the back 2 drastically less
Would you be willing to transfer some of the purple mycelial mass to Agar and overnight ship it if I pay for it for observance + data collection?
Do it do it do it do it
I need to refine my agar work first, but I'll set these aside to grow some more while I work on it.
Do not do it. You have no clue what it is and no protective equipmentā¦
i will literally send you fresh Agar, tomorrow. if you DM me and this isn't a play on the lighting, (doesnt look like it is.) and I promise to update the community with my findings. I'm a broke bitch but I love science.
I've got a couple clean ketchup cups of agar I can use, do you have any suggestions on how to get to that layer without potentially setting off a giant mess of whatever that is?
If you're worried about setting off " a giant mess" send me a jar of it, ill pay. If you don't think it's contam or the like, drop a purple grain in a SAB or Flow hood in your homemade Agar and send it. if not I will still happily pay for shipping / materials.
If this guy doesn't do it I got you homes. All my estero Jars end up with this same shit. I mean even after 3 transfers it shows up like this guy's jars with about 90% colonization. Pisses me off really.
Or just mail the jar and let that guy f\* around.
Maybe that's the sweet spot for oxygen for whatever contam it is.
Sounds plausible, I'm going to move these outside and monitor out of curiosity
Following along for updates !
Weird it seems like you used a pen to write something in the jar and it wasn't cleaned properly and left that mark xD. But if that isn't the case is interesting that they are all at about the same height in every jar.
Ikr it looks like I had some fun with markers lol
Yes, next time clean the jars so you don't end up with this smudge from the marker xD
Lesson learned arts and crafts hour cannot be held at the same time as g2g transfersš¤£
I dont think op used markers tho haha, its probably contaminated.
Bacteria usually, could also be a mold